What is the point of secrecy, if not to enhance the enjoyment? A trickier question for y’alls is, what is the point of wanting to know more about the movie?

Is it so that you will know, in advance, whether or not you will go? Surely not. Surely the fact that we are here means that we are probably going to be lining up to go to the midnight screenings on Day 1.

Or is it so that we will know, in advance, whether or not we will like the film? I think this is closer to the truth but if so… why?

I have to admit that after Superman Returns it could have hardly been worse….

All that movie did was point out how great the original Chris Reeve Superman movie was..even stole some of the lines, land plot again etc…..I kept thinking no make up your own great lines….and oh no not Luthor again! Wheres Brainiac!!?
The only half interesting thing was the son with the subconscious super powers plot….but even that kinda took away from the mythos….yah it looked better…..but if you dont have the story or characters the look of the movie doesnt mean much….

Which is another reason I am not concerned about any changes in the Trek movie so far….wait and see how good the story actually is..the characters and acting…if that all works the rest will work too…

(runs and hides)

A thousand Amens!!

#113 – Mugz

Actually, I would fully expect that, should we get a sequel or two (and boy, is it WAAAAY to early to be talking about that!), we would never see any of the original actors ever again. Or would Paramount figure that this new cast just can’t handle a movie without one of the original actors holding their hands?

I have been a devoted TOS fan since the mid-late 70’s. I actually never even noticed Shatner’s eye color, despite having seen every episode at least two dozen times, and each movie (excluding STV: Shatner’s Great Trek Turd Of ‘89) many more times than that. I guess I was far too busy enjoying them…

“For example, how many “Star Trek” novels have referred to the characters’ eye colors (e.g., Ael commenting to herself on McCoy’s “strange blue eyes” in “My Enemy, My Ally’ ”

Who cares, since ‘novels’ are non-canon (recognizing of course, that Orci and Kurtzman may choose to “canonize” some elements of certain novels by incorporating those elements into the script)?

#52—”At present Memory Beta lists the characters’ eye colors in their infoboxes. When the new movie comes out next year, will Memory Beta users have to delete that information because the eye colors are now “canonically uncertain”?”

That depends upon how serious they are about making sure the information is strictly canon.

‘Memory Alpha’ also uses sources of information which are not canon. The articles are often conjectural in some areas, or drawing from non-canon reference material which is in itself speculative.

Reference sources, even one such as MA, should be treated like books such as Okuda’s Star Trek Chronology. They have always been “trumped” by live action productions of Star Trek, and may be in this case as well..

For instance, Mr. Okuda decided for himself that the 5 year mission ended in 2269, when in fact, it was later made ‘canon’ that it ended in 2270 (”Q2″). I have also noticed that MA claims that Kirk took command of the Enterprise in 2264. From what source, I wonder, does that come from? How about the birth years of Kirk and Spock?

Those type of sites and books are fun, but be careful not to make more of them than they are…

Yes. It is. But that just so happens to ‘not’ be the particular physical difference between the two actors in question.

Kirk was written to be a particular type of personality, with specific character traits. The color of Pine’s eyes will not hinder his ability to bring the character to life in his youth.

James T. Kirk is a natural leader, in great physical condition, charismatic, loyal, honest and of good character, confident (perhaps even a bit arrogant), appealing to the opposite sex, courageous, and poised–even in the most critical of situations.

I am guessing that about sums up the character Chris Pine has chosen to play. IMO, if he successfully brings those traits to the character, it will be an adequate portrayal. He will have done the character justice.

Eye color will add nothing to the quality of his performance, whatsoever.

There is a fine line between “attention to detail” and preoccupation with it. You may miss the forest for the trees…