Chris Pine ‘Feels The Heat’ Behind Star Trek October 27, 2008
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Chris Pine attended the Hollywood Awards tonight and the fine folks at Collider got a red carpet interview with Star Trek’s new Kirk and he talked about fan feedback, thoughts on the production design and what he is up to these days, details below.
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Pine on fan reactions:
I am not sure if they are going to embrace it or not. The heat behind it I feel. I’ve seen posts about it going both ways. People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already. It’ll be what it’ll be and people will like it or they wont. I’m really proud of it from what I’ve seen I think we did a great job.
Pine on what he thought of the design of the Enterprise sets
I think when you get the opportunity to work on something with that much money is extraordinary because you get the best of the best of the best. You have the best production designers, you have the best actors working along beside you, you have one of the best directors in Hollywood today, you have a costume team that is out of control. So it is like being a kid and being given everything at your fingertips. When you first saw the bridge — and I wasn’t a fan when I was growing up so it wasn’t as sacrosanct as it was to many others — but you kind of have an out of body experience. It is pretty awesome to get to do what you get to do.
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am I first?
seems like humble comments. I really hope to like this film.
At least he can feel the ‘heat’
I mean understand
I hope to embrace it, I am sure they have done good work.
he has some big boots to fill but I think he’s going to pull it off. he’s even starting to look like Shatner now at least to me. I am getting a good feeling about this movie and can’t wait to see him and the rest of the crew in trailer next month!
At least he’s honest and keeping up! Hi Chris if you’re reading ;)
Does he wear a green shirt in the movie?
“When you first saw the bridge — and I wasn’t a fan when I was growing up so it wasn’t as sacrosanct as it was to many others — but you kind of have an out of body experience.”
Well, I WAS a fan growing up, and the bridge IS sacrosanct to me… I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it won’t look like an iPod store.
Hopefully, it will maintain SOME military / utilitarian look / function…
Cool ships / bridges is a ST must!
LL&P
They Shouldn’t Focus On the Negative So Much. I’m sure More People will like It than Not. It’s all fun and everything but it’s not life and Death if they don’t
Nail everything 100% like the Original. I wanted to see a Newer spin on the Old anyway as much as I love TOS. This Should Be good.
He wants to visit Europe he said…..well :-) If you come to germany, come visit me and we’ll have a beer together .
Well, seriously, from that Interview, I really think he has the absolute potential to be a perfect Kirk. Look at his face, his kirkish smartass look.
And..he this guy has got humor….I am confident that this movie will be great Star Trek, better than everything after the TOS era……Good luck to the whole cast and Crew. See you in the trailer…..
It’s just a movie.
If you like it, then fine.
If you don’t like it, that’s fine too.
It’s not all that important considering what is going on in the world today.
Yes, the REAL WORLD.
Remember that place?
It is sweet how Frosty describes the scene at the carpet, where Chris still has a quantum of leisure time…
Seems they got the best money can buy. :D
The more that is said about the new movie, the more apparent it becomes that it is going to be quite different to TOS. And I’m glad about that.
To do a purist remake of TOS now wouldn’t work – I struggle to watch TOS now, because it looks so dated. I want to get the remastered sets, but I’m waiting for the blu-rays. The last thing this movie needs is to look like it was made in the 60s.
People have criticised the shots we’ve seen of the so-called iBridge – but we’ve seen stuff like it before. The ENT bridge looked far more advanced the the TOS bridge, yet it was set 100 years earlier. OK, ENT isn’t exactly everyone’s favourite series, but you see my point.
Everything I’ve seen about the new movie so far makes me excited, not because it’s exactly like TOS, because it isn’t, but because it evokes my childhood memories of TOS.
I think all the individual actors will do their parts well. For me, the crux of it will be the interaction between Kirk, Spock and McCoy. One line from ST:III sums up their relationship:
Kirk: You’re suffering from a Vulcan mind meld, Doctor.
McCoy: That green-blooded son of b***h. It’s his revenge for all those arguments he lost!
Roll on May!
He does look an awful lot like a 20-something Bill Shatner. It’s pretty eery.
Sweet!
Everything I have seen of Chris Pine and his thoughts simply works. He doesn’t have to love it as aggressively as we all do… or even some of his cast mates –so long as there is a flying leg kick, I’m good.
Even if Pine doesn’t quite get why it was so important.
Of course, if after leg-kicking, Pine watched Shatner decades ago, that would be cool… but he doesn’t have to be Shatner.
Shatner. Leg kick. Kirk. All VERY SEPARATE THINGS!
Food for thought – it may be best to approach this movie as a new project in the Star Trek universe. New players are involved in front of and behind the camera. Their take on things will definitely different than any body else’s.
Instead of looking at the history of the franchise and trying to map it into the movie the reverse should be done. Take the details of the movie and map them back to the original material. That way the hits will be positive instead of negative.
The details are window dressing. The play is the thing!
Star Trek is in a ‘do or die’ situation. It has bigger issues than whether Kirk is wearing a black shirt, or Chekov has curly hair, or the bridge does not look the same. None of those details will affect the story.
If the story is not powerful to break out of the current Trek fanbase and entice mainstream audiences to see it, the franchise is dead. There is no way it will recoup its costs.
So instead of looking at branches, step back, back from those branches, step back from the trees for those branches, and step back and look at the forest.
If Trek fans are not able to do that, then how are they going to even have the slightest chance to enjoy the movie?
….and the adventure continues….
“People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already.”
I think it’s a shame that there is a segment of the fanbase that is already making itself to be known as virulent naysayers. I even feel embarrassed that the professionals who are working hard to bring us this new movie already feel hounded by this element.
Shame on fans acting like spoiled brats!
That heat Pine is feeling comes from the feminine contingent of the fanbase. May I get an OH YEAH, my sisters… and TOG, of course…
Loved the interview and loved Pine in BottleShock. Enjoy your leisure time now Chris because I don’t think you’ll have much once this movie comes out. In fact i do wonder if Star Trek will be able to hold this guy for long. I think Chris has mega star written all over him.
And a big Oh Yeah to you Denise
Do the characters transcend the actors? And are the characters — sans the original actors — iconic enough to endure beyond the time that they were born?
If yes, then Kirk & Co. join the ranks Dracula and Batman, Hamlet and MacBeth.
If no, then they go into the same pile that contains Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, the Lone Ranger and Singing Cowboys.
Hopefully, Chris Pine and friends will help with the transcendence…
”Hamlet” has been envisioned and re-envisioned and adapted on the screen probably more than any other literary work (I believe over 30-times at last count). Certainly I do not put Star Trek in the same lofty category, but it is very similar considering it is much more enlightened science fiction when it is at its best.
I just plain don’t understand the negative reactions of ”first generation” fans (among whom I include myself) of the franchise to this new movie who prejudge this upcoming film based on a few sparse photos of hardware and wardrobe. It’s just so silly on so many levels, not to mention closed-minded.
Star Trek belongs to the ages now. It will always come down to character and storytelling first and hardware second. ”Fresh minds and new ideas” (we talked) will bring new timely and contemporary interpretations of these beloved characters and their voyages.
I know I for one never did and will continue not to draw conclusions based on ‘’shadows.”
”Hamlet” survives. Star Trek will too.
This is perhaps the most unique situation ever as far as recasting all the roles. Hamlet, Superman, Batman, et al.. None of these films or shows have had a situation where the same actors played or were associated with a particular role for 40 years. These actors took Star Trek from a tv series to a motion picture series. They even had a send off film. George Takei played Sulu in Voyager in 1996. Because of this, I see this as one of the most ambitious projects in film. So far, I like what I have seen as far as the casting but as it has been or will be said, they have some big shoes to fill. Here’s hoping that they can do that!!!
This movie’s going to be sooooo good!
This wait is going to to drive me soooooooooooooo crazy.
Well, so much more crazy!!!!! :-)
re: 22. crazydaystrom – October 28, 2008
“This movie’s going to be sooooo good!”
But what if it ISN’T?
What then?
I’ve had a chance to sample some of Chris’s work by way of “Blind Dating.” Gotta say, the guy can act!
Sort of makes me mad when I see rather pointless comments about him just being hired because he’s “pretty.” Look, he’s got the same features William Shatner does, so I guess William would be a “pretty boy” too. But the whole thing is, that’s just gravy on top of his acting. I enjoyed his work! I think he’s got a certain Kirk-ness to him.
I think he’ll do fine
These people who are giving this the middle finger already, well, these folks are welcome to hold on to Trek’s past, but there’s a problem. The franchise has been dying in spite of past projects and so a new road is needed. The people who can’t see that and are holding onto cannon so much that they’d rather see something they love perish than to try and appreciate a new vision. These folks need to find something else that they love in their lives. Nothing lasts forever, and I fear that if this movie doesn’t make it and if Star Trek does ride off into the sunset, that these people will find themselves in a state of loss that will bring the realization that they’d given up their whole lives for a fantasy.
Personally, I believe this movie will be great and will be very successful–if people will go see it, and I hope that movie viewers–most especially Trek fans–will approach this with an open mind selflessly based on giving Star Trek the shot in the arm it needs to carry onward (as it should).
#23- Mr. Stankford T. McF., may I call you Stanky? :-)
If its not good I’ll wait for the Watchmen dvd, anticipate Cameron’s ‘Avatar’, watch old Trek dvds and oh yeah, I’ve a girlfriend, family and work, you know, the stuff of real life (it would appear I do have one).
It the next May’s Trek is not a good movie or even worse not good Trek, it’ll be a dissappointment for sure but my life and my Trekking both will go on as it has for the past fifty-one and forty-two years.
BUT, its going to be soooooooooo good!
Call me crazy.
re#26-
I meant ‘IF next May’s Trek is not good…
He looks more like Kirk in this particular clip than i’ve ever seen him look.
I kinda like that he’s so cautious about it. I appreciate the candid nature he has when expressing his thoughts/feelings about the film and fans.
It’s like that he’s not in full spin mode…. not part of the spin machine! He’s giving it to us straight…as best he can…from his own point of view. I like it.
“People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already. It’ll be what it’ll be and people will like it or they wont. I’m really proud of it (from) what I’ve seen”
It’s good that he seems to have a thick skin. Star Trek fans, while forward-thinking and usually peace-loving, can sometimes be caustic when things don’t go the way we want.
I’m not a huge lover of the new bridge (from what I can see of it) but I’m not going to let it keep me from enjoying the movie. Trailer will be coming soon, so that’s exciting.
In other news….James Cawley, when the heckies is BaF going to be released?
is Pine still sporting the pointed sideburns???
#6. Me, I’m just pumped that he used the word “sacrosanct” in a red-carpet interview. Nice brain on the guy.
I find it kind of refreshing that he basically feels like, “well, we did what we did the best that we could- hope you like it but I’m well aware that some of you are gonna freak out.”
The thing is that it’s not like Abrams and Co. have gone into the archives and deleted the past 40 years of Trek. If I end up liking this movie, I’ll embrace it; if it blows, I’ll ignore it.
I DO think that it looks like an iBridge Genius Bar, but I guess the argument can be made that the Excelsior and the first iteration of the 1701-A bridge looked exactly like that as well ( and decades before The Steve launched his, at that!)
” am not sure if they are going to embrace it or not. The heat behind it I feel. I’ve seen posts about it going both ways. People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already.”
Or some like me….firmly in the middle. Worried and excited at the same time. Glad to see though that he seems able to handle it all. It’s certainly tough stepping into those shoes. Trek fans are a vociferous lot but anytime anyone redos something so close to people’s hearts, you will have a reaction The Internet in general is a harsh place and it’s not confined to Trek fans. The reactions to Star Wars, Xman, Superman, Hulk and others have been incredibly heated; and let’s not forget TV — anyone read TWOP? Sheesh!
I’ve actually never heard him talk before, but now I think even more that he’ll be doing great as Kirk. I already had a good feeling about him just judging from the pictures. And if he does a good job, I can even cope with a blue-eyed Kirk ;) (hmm, really wonder, why they didn’t fix that little thingy – maybe Pine’s uncomfortable with contacts…) hey, why don’t we try to give it a canon explanation (: – Kirk’s eyes turned hazle in his thirties due to an allergic reaction to “Retinax 5″ (remember that line from STII?) – so, because of his vanity he continued to command the Big E until he was blind as a bat and Bones finally got him those bloody glasses…
i want to see Pine in the thick WOK black ‘fro in the sequel..i dont care if its canon or not!
I wonder if he’s read those posts here, which wouldn’t surprise me. At least those involved in the new movie know that not all the fans have gone off the deep end and passed final judgment on the film based on what relatively little we know about it so far. I for one am always optimistic about future Trek and I’ll be there for the first showing of this film in May.
I swear that the bridge did not look the same more than 2 movies in a row in 10 ‘Trek’ films, so why all the fuss about the white lights on this new bridge set? I’m confused – did the same fans complain when they showed the new bridge sets in ST I, II, and VI?
If the film respects and follows what StarTrek is, then I will embrace it with open arms and call it a great film and I will continue loving new and further Star Trek adventures
If JJ Abrams completely changes the Roddenberry philosophy and retcons teverything to fit Abrams desire then I will be pissed off and boycott every future JJ Abrams project.
Either way no matter the outcome at least I have my DVDs of the episodes and past movies.
I really want to love this film as it is new Trek. I hope JJ has got it right. I hate how the bridge is looking as it is not faithful to TOS.
Wow, I am really seeing Kirk in this pic of Pine. I’m sort of ambivalent about the bridge, but, heck, we only gotta’ glimpse.
I’d like to see some sort of reference to The Menagerie (Cage)/Where No Man Has Gone Before style uniforms. May be too much to ask, but I guess I want some sort of continuity in my head that makes a little sense. I grew up with Trek, so it is hard to gear for a BSG-style reboot (besides I think the original BSG was complete schlock, so it doesn’t hold the same place as TOS to me).
Denise,
Oh hell yeah! TOG is pleased with Pine. In many ways.
13/28 yes i imagine thats why he was chosen!
2 exclusive new Star Trek pictures are up on empireonline.com who are running a Trek exclusive in this month’s addition with a specially shot Kirk/Spock front cover. The viewscreen looks amazing!
http://www.empireonline.com
See anything familiar?
http://www.empireonline.com/images/news/temp/empire234.jpg
“People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already.”
Isn’t that the truth?
Count me among those who are excited…By the time of the film’s release, I will have waited about 18 years for Star Trek’s return to the 23rd Century and the iconic Original Series characters.
“When you first saw the bridge — and I wasn’t a fan when I was growing up so it wasn’t as sacrosanct as it was to many others — but you kind of have an out of body experience.”
I think this is important because much of the target audience is not so heavily invested in the franchise that they actually consider the 1960’s window dressing for the series as part of its ‘canon’.
It’s not about whether it will look like the set design in TOS. The important thing is whether it looks believable as the bridge of a starship in the 23rd Century.
“I think when you get the opportunity to work on something with that much money is extraordinary because you get the best of the best of the best. ”
I love TOS, and always have since the first rerun I laid eyes on in the 1970’s—-but with a budget in excess of $150 million and the ability to make 40 year-old Star Trek Tech appear functional to a 21st Century audience—-they had better ‘not’ go too nostalgic.
Retro-looks at the TOS-era bridge like the one in ENT, “In A Mirror, Darkly” are fine for a UPN television series directed at Trek fans. That ‘was’ fun. However, such nostalgia would certainly be lost among teenage viewers, many of whom were not even alive the last time we saw Jim Kirk in a Starfleet uniform on the big screen.
Star Trek is summed up best to me as this:
The vision of a possible future for us in which mankind does not destroy itself, but instead, unites to conquer the social ills which plague us (as a species) today and eventually commits itself to exploration of the final frontier…
If a ‘new look’ helps to convince another generation of fans to embrace that vision…then all of this is justified, IMO. How could it not be?
For those of you who have already displayed your middle fingers, you can see the front of mine in my rearview mirror as I move forward with Star Trek.
I can promise you this. No matter what Bad Robot does with Star Trek, it won’t wreck your dvd shelf…the past will still be there to hold on to.
If this, to any of you, is “the death of a franchise”, just remember that— “this death takes place in the shadow of a new life.”
:)
here da stories
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23522
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23519
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did you notice that you can see the registry numbers on the front of the saucer through the viewscreen…guess it’s more of a window with an electronic overlay.
I wonder if people from other ships will just pop up in the corner of the viewscreen semi-transparent like a webchat type element.
I definitely like empire’s attempt to recreate the old photo for the cover….def. a win over the EW cover
Wow, it’s like looking out over the hood of your car…..what a great concept…it gives a feeling that you are actually on a ship, not in some room that could be anywhere…I love it….and as far as Chris is concerned, I am a believer at this point….Of course, I think the movie will still have to prove itself but I have confidence from the things we have seen so far.
I am unable to load any of the empireonline.com links Canonfornication provided.
Is anyone else having this problem, and are there alternate sites that have these images?
#33 “Or some like me….firmly in the middle. Worried and excited at the same time.”
Right there with ya, bro. I’ll be there for the 1st showing, at midnight! Fingers crossed…
maybe this means that the trailer WILL be attached to Quantum in the UK in 3 days time!!!
*crosses fingers*
Pine seems to avoid the “!!!” hyper-positive statements of his colleagues, which is refreshing.
As for production design, there was an article here awhile back where, I believe, JJ, mentioned that 21st century tech has embraced and absorbed much of what TOS presented as “tech” in the 1960’s, i.e. communicators, Bridge design, computer disks, etc. So, JJ’s 23rd century must take it even further.
AiCN has new pix!!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38899
#49—-Which theater?
:)
Closet,
I generally hit one of the two Edwards theaters … either the Edwards 24 on 59 @ Weslayan, or the Edwards Marq*E on I-10.
But if we fail to meet up for the movie (you’re a family man after all), we still gotta do Shiners afterwards to discuss! :-)
Gene Roddenberry said in his own words regarding Star Trek that “It will go on without any of us and just keep getting better and better!”
I like most of you have a nice collection of dvd’s.
But its been a long time since there has been any new non fan made material.
I may not like the film,I may love it.But one thing I do know is that its the last big chance to bring trek back.
I also know the effects will be outstanding and realistic.
the film has got to be pitched at such a level to make maximum impact,maximum appeal and get theaters full.
Good Luck to all involved with the movie.I hope it blows us away.
Its got to beat no trek at all?
Right!
I.D.I.C.
#54—-Oh, that’s a given! Two rounds on me for sure…(pitchers, of course). What do you think of the latest pics???
#56 Sounds good, money bags! :-)
I like the fact that they look more gritty and less airbrushed than the EW ones. And the replication of the classic Shat-Nimoy shot is a nice touch.
#57—-Indeed.
Did any notice that the pic of Spock in front of the view screen shows the “NCC” on the ship?
See posts 46-47…
my bad, i dont have time to read every post :)
I have no problem embracing you, Chris Pine! ;)
“Right there with ya, bro. I’ll be there for the 1st showing, at midnight! Fingers crossed…”
Fingers crossed, liquor in flask. (kidding, sorta) I AM liking the photo of Spock in front of the viewscreen. It looks better than the awful EW cover at least.
“If the film respects and follows what StarTrek is, then I will embrace it with open arms and call it a great film and I will continue loving new and further Star Trek adventures”
Me too captain. Or at least not so unrecognizable that I can’t embrace it as something “new” but enjoyable. Probably the only deal-breaker would be a complete negation of certain aspects of canon (yeah, there’s that dreaded word again) or a lack of chemistry between Pine/Quinto as I’m primarily a Kirk/Spock fan of long standing.
in the words of the great Dirk Diggler™:
“the heat will rock you
and the heat
will roll you
baby dont ya know
the heat is in my soul
cmon cmon cmon!
love me…. today.
and love me
tomorrow…
all day, all night!
you feel
my heat!
feel, feel, feel… feel my heat…”
THE WOMEN!!
=h=
#63—”Probably the only deal-breaker would be a complete negation of certain aspects of canon…”
What if the changes in the succession of events we know as ‘canon’ are a result of a villainous timeline incursion which Spock (Nimoy) is only partially successful in correcting? By qualifying your statement with the phrase “certain aspects”, I assume that you have particular ‘aspects’ in mind…Is that right?
I don’t think that, if what would otherwise be contradictory, is the result of a villain’s attempt to change the past, ‘canon’ can actually be considered violated (although ‘negated’ is something different).
What if, for instance, Nero’s potential interference results in Kirk never being assigned to the USS Republic or to the USS Farragut?
I would argue that, since the possibility of alternate timelines in the ST Universe is in itself ‘canon’, the STXI (or Zero)story would become every bit as legitimately canon as “Court-Martial” or “Obsession” was for 40 years before it.
Although my preference is for as much of the classic (if incomplete) backstory to remain intact, I have to recognize that the alternative creates the type of “jeopardy” for the characters usually missing in a conventional prequel. And that may ultimately be the best thing for appropriate dramatic effect. Unlike in the SW prequel trilogy, the fate of the characters would no longer be set in stone, therefore leaving room for real suspense as to the outcomes of stories, rather than just the “how”.
” …or a lack of chemistry between Pine/Quinto as I’m primarily a Kirk/Spock fan of long standing.”
Now that’s the real key, isn’t it? It is also the one thing ‘completely’ immeasurable at this point.
I have to add, though, that Urban is also equally important to that equation, IMO. To me, Star Trek was always at its best when all three of them (K/S/M) were intregal to the story, or at least, given a chance to exhibit that since unequalled interaction dynamic in at least one scene relevant to the resolution of the conflict.
Two key observations I take away from this interview:
1. Chris Pine is a LOT like his father.
2. Chris *definitely* has both the natural swagger and the mischievous twinkle in his eye that is required to pull off Kirk effectively.
I think Kevin Smith was on the money. Chris will be a fine Kirk.
So….the best of the best of the best got us an iPod bridge.
Great.
#67…
My iPod looks nothing like the bridge. And vice versa.
I think that this movie will be great! I love that the franchise is being given a great big reboot in the ass. These film makers and actors are, in reality, beholden to noone. I hope that JJ did play fast and loose with canon. That can only serve to make Star Trek something really worth talking about again.
The way I see it is, that if Gene was alive today, had the budget JJ had, he would have produced something very similar.
5. Enterprise –
“Does he wear a green shirt in the movie?”
This shirt thing is getting out of control. Does he wear the gold shirt? Does he wear the green shirt? What’s with the black shirt? Geez, people! We’ve been told this film has a lot to do with Kirk taking command of Enterprise for the first time. He’ll probably put on the gold shirt at the end of the freakin’ movie.
37. thomoz –
“I swear that the bridge did not look the same more than 2 movies in a row in 10 ‘Trek’ films, so why all the fuss about the white lights on this new bridge set? I’m confused – did the same fans complain when they showed the new bridge sets in ST I, II, and VI?”
I so agree. Btw, there were completely different bridges shown in Trek V and the final scene in IV as well.
he really looks like a young shatner in that video!!
I am quite eagerly anticipating this film.
While I enjoy Star Trek, I guess I am one who didn’t take it and make it my life. It isn’t “holy” to me. I don’t feel like my childhood is somehow being robbed of me.
I think you’ll find that a lot of Trek fans are quite self-absorbed. Pine mentions how many fans are already giving it the middle finger. Well, if you read these posts, you can tell that some fans feel like they are the ones who have been given the middle finger; and that middle finger was personally directed towards them. Come on: JJ does not have some photo album of Star Trek fans that he opened up and said, “Hey, you know what would piss so-and-so off…?”
The whole point of this film is to bring Star Trek into the 21st century.* You aren’t going to do that by adhering to 60’s sets and 60’s production values. This is not going to be the Star Trek you watched when you were 10. Star Trek needs something to energize it, and from what I can tell, JJ has given it “oomph” it needs.
*Yes, I am aware that the point of the film is to make money.
too bad the timing was off for it to happen but it would’a been cool to hsve britney spears cameo in the film as carol marcus and sing her single ‘womanizer’ in the film in reference to kirk…i swear the song sounds like its a jim kirk theme song! :)
sorry…typo… *have, not hsve LOL
Chris Pine looks a lot more Kirkish in this video, especially the hair!
27. crazydaystrom – October 28, 2008
re#26-
I meant ‘IF next May’s Trek is not good
Now you’re DOOMED!
A slip like that can cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by!!
Quote:”I am not sure if they are going to embrace it or not. The heat behind it I feel. I’ve seen posts about it going both ways. People are either excited about it or giving it the middle finger already.
Allow me to extend my one finger.
Quote:”It’ll be what it’ll be and people will like it or they wont. I’m really proud of it from what I’ve seen I think we did a great job.
It will be a bomb. He even makes fun of the fact that the movie is following Star Wars. How incredibly sad! The more I learn about this movie the more I have to ask myself “What was paramount thinking?”
Another franchise bites the dust! Poor Gene must be rolling in his grave.
Sean
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All of you who don’t understand why there are MANY of us who wanted to see TOS done right are clueless.
The highest rated episodes of TNG, DS-9, and Enterprise were the TOS episodes that DIDN’T redesign anything. They recreated TOS perfectly.
I don’t like being told that TOS is so crappy, we have to pretend it doesn’t exist. We have to redesign it. We have to be ashamed of it because it’s too “cheesy”.
It exists, it doesn’t need a redesign. And, it’s not cheesy.
Look at Star Trek Phase II for TOS done right. JJ should have recreated TOS perfectly. No need to waste time and money on reinventing the wheel.
What has been made isn’t TOS.
The new shot of Spock in front of the viewscreen is AWESOME!! =D
…that’s one part of the bridge I like so far…
…however, the reflections of all of the spot lights is not good, and would be unacceptable in a tactical situation…
IMHO they need to get rid of all the spot lights, lexan w/ lame PCB patterns, shiny smooth surfaces, standing duty stations,… basically make it look less like a “hi-tech” retail space (iStore?). (ouch)
It’s going to suck,
but I hope it will suck in a fun way.
What a shame that the very people who are supposedly “fans” are so obsessed with pulling everything appart, that they actualy end up hurting the franchise they “love”.
They did it with Enterprise, now they are doing it with the film… for god’s sake it’s being made TODAY, the bridge looks great, the cast looks great, either want to enjoy it and enjoy the fact Trek is still going, or leave it. What these folks are doing is like telling your wife “oh yeah I do love you… oh but well your arse as better 10 years ago, and your figure, oh and I hate the clothes you ware now… but I do love you”… and wondering why she then leaves you a dear john note~! GROW UP
To all the negative types…..
1. Go to your local movie theaters next May
2. As soon as the film starts, CLOSE YOUR EYES
3. Does it SOUND like Star Trek ?
- W -
* Just a thought *
he looks more like shatner here than in any pics from the movie so far…
why didnt they leave him like this, instead of loading him up with makeup and poofy hair?
To Chris Pine: Ignore the finger! You will be a great Jim Kirk. Those who are pinting the “finger” are those who never get out of their parents basements.
I am really excited about the movie. I think it will be great. The one thing folks will likely have to do is to let go of the notions that everything that happened in TOS is gospel. Heck, even TOS violated its own canon. I think this will be a great movie if we let it.
#78 – “Poor Gene must be rolling in his grave.”
He was cremated dude.
#80 – “The highest rated episodes of TNG, DS-9, and Enterprise were the TOS episodes that DIDN’T redesign anything.”
You think those are the highest rated episodes of those series? HA!
I think the shirt thing could have been taken care of by taking a promo shot of Pine wearing a green or yellow shirt. You would think they would want to quell negitive buzz.
Come to think of it, i liked the idea of Kirk wearing the green ; )
#80—-”What has been made isn’t TOS.”
Nor is that the goal.
TOS is a 1960’s interpretation of Star Trek’s vision. It is now 2008. By the time of the film’s release, it will be 2009. The audience will not only be made up of a bunch of 40-60 year old long established fans. That audience couldn’t carry even a medicore budgeted Star Trek film today, which is what a nostalgia movie would have to be in order for there to be ‘any chance’ of financial justification.
For Star Trek to get the treatment it deserves, the look has to evolve.
Understanding that the success of this film is dependant upon (among other things) asthetic change is the opposite of “clueless”…
“The highest rated episodes of TNG, DS-9, and Enterprise were the TOS episodes that DIDN’T redesign anything.”
“You think those are the highest rated episodes of those series? HA!”
Along with premieres and finales, yeah, the TOS related episodes were the highest rated, certainly of their respective seasons.
Of particular note should be the Enterprise episodes, where they actually went and rebuilt the sets, as opposed to the TNG and DS9 episodes, where the rebuilt some, but mostly digitally inserted the current actors into TOS footage.
Someone make a note of this post, as this is one of the few times you’ll see my praise an Enterprise episode.
#88—”You think those are the highest rated episodes of those series?”
They were (aside from the pilots, finales, and maybe “Yesterday’s Enterprise”), according to the Neilsen ratings system. Ha! :)
Those are the only episodes of TNG, DS9, and VOY episodes I went out of my way to see during the first runs of those series.
They may not be your favorite episodes, but they ‘were’ the most watched, therefore most “highly rated”.
Mr. Pine:
Art receives criticism. This happens at all levels. One can face this fact or one can hide by trying to diminish his or her critics.
“The Peanut Gallery”
This doesn’t just refer to those who disapprove of what they’re seeing. It implies that everyone who’s expressed dissatisfaction or concern is, in fact, crass. Unsophisticated. I’ll grant that some people’s reactions have been less tactful than others, but I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that everyone who opines critically to what we’ve seen is an ignorant, peanut-chucking boor.
“Star Twars”
Your “Star Twars” portmanteau is very interesting. Start wars? Star Trek is about avoiding wars and being as ethical as possible. This is in contrast to Star Wars, in which even the good guys have a monarchy, use self-aware robots as slaves and rely upon mysticism for salvation.
A major source of trepidation about this project goes far deeper than set design. I’m glad you’re stumping for Obama. You may or may not be aware that Star Trek has a long history of sneakily championing progressive politics. After two pilot episodes with women in long pants, it’s said that the mini-skirts were a concession made to the network in order to keep the “unsensibly-cast” non-white actors and the “Satanic” Spock.
“What if the changes in the succession of events we know as ‘canon’ are a result of a villainous timeline incursion which Spock (Nimoy) is only partially successful in correcting? By qualifying your statement with the phrase “certain aspects”, I assume that you have particular ‘aspects’ in mind…Is that right?”
Yup…for me it always comes down to Kirk and Spock. I just don’t want my vision of their characters and relationship to be wrecked. You know, I never really cared about an “origin” story to be honest. For me, it was self-evident that their friendship began when Kirk took over the Enterprise. (I did always want the 5 year voyage to be filled in!) I’ve mentioned in other threads that I find them perhaps meeting up beforehand…at the Academy…to be fanboyish in a bad way. But of couse, who really knows as we are all speculating in a vacuum about the storyline.
“… I would argue that, since the possibility of alternate timelines in the ST Universe is in itself ‘canon’, the STXI (or Zero)story would become every bit as legitimately canon as “Court-Martial” or “Obsession” was for 40 years before it.”
Sure, whatever airs — be it tv or movie — becomes canon. But I don’t necessarily have to agree with or like it. ;) There’s stuff in a lot of the movies or TV shows that I didn’t agree with which we discussed in other threads — the portrayal of Vulcans on ENT for example.
“Now that’s the real key, isn’t it? It is also the one thing ‘completely’ immeasurable at this point. ”
Yes indeed. This alone probably would be the only thing that could totally ruin the movie for me. If there is no chemistry or it’s not as vibrant as that of Nimoy and Shatner.
“I have to add, though, that Urban is also equally important to that equation, IMO. To me, Star Trek was always at its best when all three of them (K/S/M) were intregal to the story, or at least, given a chance to exhibit that since unequalled interaction dynamic in at least one scene relevant to the resolution of the conflict.”
I loved Bones/De and totally agree that Urban and his chemistry with Pine and Quinto is very important. God, I just can’t stand the wait!!!!! Thank goodness we have the trailer coming out soon.
Pine doesn’t look like Shatner, he doesn’t look like Kirk….
Heard the same baloney when Routh became Superman…:”how much he looked like Christopher Reeve”….Routh looked nothing like Christopher Reeve……I think people get so wrapped up they start to see things that aren’t really there.
JJ did a fine job of casting…and Pine…well He’ll do fine as Kirk I’m sure…I don’t expect exact duplicates of the previous actors…although I am impressed with the look of Spock……
But Pine looks like Shatner as much as Routh looks like Reeves. nuff said.
92 – They were (aside from the pilots, finales, and maybe “Yesterday’s Enterprise”), according to the Neilsen ratings system. Ha! :)
Not even that. (I had posted this one but it didn’t go through.)
TNG – Had higher ratings in “Unification,” of “The Best of Both Worlds.” Relics was it’s season’s highest.. by A TENTH OF A POINT.
DS9’s “Tribble” episode, according to this, had a 7.7, which still wasn’t the highest rated for the series, when it was averaging anywhere from 7 to a 9.0+ rating the seasons before!
Enterprise’s “In A Mirror Darkly” was among the lowest rated of Season 4 with an average for both episodes at 2.7 Million.
““The Best of Both Worlds.” ”
Not sure why I typed that, ignore it.