Not sure why I typed that, ignore it.

Not even that. (I had posted this one but it didn’t go through.)

TNG – Had higher ratings in “Unification,” of “The Best of Both Worlds.” Relics was it’s season’s highest.. by A TENTH OF A POINT.

DS9’s “Tribble” episode, according to this, had a 7.7, which still wasn’t the highest rated for the series, when it was averaging anywhere from 7 to a 9.0+ rating the seasons before!

Enterprise’s “In A Mirror Darkly” was among the lowest rated of Season 4 with an average for both episodes at 2.7 Million.

Heard the same baloney when Routh became Superman…:”how much he looked like Christopher Reeve”….Routh looked nothing like Christopher Reeve……I think people get so wrapped up they start to see things that aren’t really there.

JJ did a fine job of casting…and Pine…well He’ll do fine as Kirk I’m sure…I don’t expect exact duplicates of the previous actors…although I am impressed with the look of Spock……

But Pine looks like Shatner as much as Routh looks like Reeves. nuff said.

Yup…for me it always comes down to Kirk and Spock. I just don’t want my vision of their characters and relationship to be wrecked. You know, I never really cared about an “origin” story to be honest. For me, it was self-evident that their friendship began when Kirk took over the Enterprise. (I did always want the 5 year voyage to be filled in!) I’ve mentioned in other threads that I find them perhaps meeting up beforehand…at the Academy…to be fanboyish in a bad way. But of couse, who really knows as we are all speculating in a vacuum about the storyline.

“… I would argue that, since the possibility of alternate timelines in the ST Universe is in itself ‘canon’, the STXI (or Zero)story would become every bit as legitimately canon as “Court-Martial” or “Obsession” was for 40 years before it.”

Sure, whatever airs — be it tv or movie — becomes canon. But I don’t necessarily have to agree with or like it. ;) There’s stuff in a lot of the movies or TV shows that I didn’t agree with which we discussed in other threads — the portrayal of Vulcans on ENT for example.

“Now that’s the real key, isn’t it? It is also the one thing ‘completely’ immeasurable at this point. ”

Yes indeed. This alone probably would be the only thing that could totally ruin the movie for me. If there is no chemistry or it’s not as vibrant as that of Nimoy and Shatner.

“I have to add, though, that Urban is also equally important to that equation, IMO. To me, Star Trek was always at its best when all three of them (K/S/M) were intregal to the story, or at least, given a chance to exhibit that since unequalled interaction dynamic in at least one scene relevant to the resolution of the conflict.”

I loved Bones/De and totally agree that Urban and his chemistry with Pine and Quinto is very important. God, I just can’t stand the wait!!!!! Thank goodness we have the trailer coming out soon.

Art receives criticism. This happens at all levels. One can face this fact or one can hide by trying to diminish his or her critics.

“The Peanut Gallery”

This doesn’t just refer to those who disapprove of what they’re seeing. It implies that everyone who’s expressed dissatisfaction or concern is, in fact, crass. Unsophisticated. I’ll grant that some people’s reactions have been less tactful than others, but I don’t think it’s fair to suggest that everyone who opines critically to what we’ve seen is an ignorant, peanut-chucking boor.

“Star Twars”

Your “Star Twars” portmanteau is very interesting. Start wars? Star Trek is about avoiding wars and being as ethical as possible. This is in contrast to Star Wars, in which even the good guys have a monarchy, use self-aware robots as slaves and rely upon mysticism for salvation.

A major source of trepidation about this project goes far deeper than set design. I’m glad you’re stumping for Obama. You may or may not be aware that Star Trek has a long history of sneakily championing progressive politics. After two pilot episodes with women in long pants, it’s said that the mini-skirts were a concession made to the network in order to keep the “unsensibly-cast” non-white actors and the “Satanic” Spock.

They were (aside from the pilots, finales, and maybe “Yesterday’s Enterprise”), according to the Neilsen ratings system. Ha! :)

Those are the only episodes of TNG, DS9, and VOY episodes I went out of my way to see during the first runs of those series.

They may not be your favorite episodes, but they ‘were’ the most watched, therefore most “highly rated”.

“You think those are the highest rated episodes of those series? HA!”

Along with premieres and finales, yeah, the TOS related episodes were the highest rated, certainly of their respective seasons.

Of particular note should be the Enterprise episodes, where they actually went and rebuilt the sets, as opposed to the TNG and DS9 episodes, where the rebuilt some, but mostly digitally inserted the current actors into TOS footage.

Someone make a note of this post, as this is one of the few times you’ll see my praise an Enterprise episode.

Nor is that the goal.

TOS is a 1960’s interpretation of Star Trek’s vision. It is now 2008. By the time of the film’s release, it will be 2009. The audience will not only be made up of a bunch of 40-60 year old long established fans. That audience couldn’t carry even a medicore budgeted Star Trek film today, which is what a nostalgia movie would have to be in order for there to be ‘any chance’ of financial justification.

For Star Trek to get the treatment it deserves, the look has to evolve.

Understanding that the success of this film is dependant upon (among other things) asthetic change is the opposite of “clueless”…

Come to think of it, i liked the idea of Kirk wearing the green ; )

You think those are the highest rated episodes of those series? HA!