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	<title>Comments on: Abrams, Quinto and Pine Talk Star Trek In Empire Cover Story</title>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can respect any director who hates the Star Wars prequels.

I feel that the original Star Wars trilogy united a great many people in a positive way; while the prequels united even more people in a negative way. But through it we are united. We know that this kind of tragedy must never happen again. Ever.

The things I read from JJ really put my mind at ease. Even if this movie isn’t as good as we hope, it will surely still be a great movie, and the sequel will learn from any mistakes that are made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can respect any director who hates the Star Wars prequels.</p>
<p>I feel that the original Star Wars trilogy united a great many people in a positive way; while the prequels united even more people in a negative way. But through it we are united. We know that this kind of tragedy must never happen again. Ever.</p>
<p>The things I read from JJ really put my mind at ease. Even if this movie isn’t as good as we hope, it will surely still be a great movie, and the sequel will learn from any mistakes that are made.</p>
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		<title>By: The Quickening</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Quickening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>169.
You can be a character-driven/action movie and end up an adolescent cartoon--STAR WARS, and you can be a character-driven/action movie, a cartoon and have adult sensibilities and end up with THE DARK KNIGHT.  That&#039;s my concern.  Will we get a dumb, action-pack, popcorn movie, or a smart one?

You wrote:
And yet you have no problem “consuming” the notion that bigger and better action sequences will somehow denegrate Trek or hinder the filmmakers’ ability to tell a great story about Kirk/Spock/McCoy.


I think you mean denigrate.  

No, not just accepting possible Hollywood rhetorical salesmanship is my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>169.<br />
You can be a character-driven/action movie and end up an adolescent cartoon&#8211;STAR WARS, and you can be a character-driven/action movie, a cartoon and have adult sensibilities and end up with THE DARK KNIGHT.  That&#8217;s my concern.  Will we get a dumb, action-pack, popcorn movie, or a smart one?</p>
<p>You wrote:<br />
And yet you have no problem “consuming” the notion that bigger and better action sequences will somehow denegrate Trek or hinder the filmmakers’ ability to tell a great story about Kirk/Spock/McCoy.</p>
<p>I think you mean denigrate.  </p>
<p>No, not just accepting possible Hollywood rhetorical salesmanship is my point.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t either.

BIG ACTION AND EFFECTS + GREAT STORY + SOLID ACTING AND DIRECTING

(to me)

= GREAT MOVIE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t either.</p>
<p>BIG ACTION AND EFFECTS + GREAT STORY + SOLID ACTING AND DIRECTING</p>
<p>(to me)</p>
<p>= GREAT MOVIE</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#154----&quot;It’s not just the article above I am responding too.&quot;

Then I would suggest going back and reading some of the past articles. You&#039;ll find the same equal emphasis on making clear that the story is character-driven as you will the assurance of first class action and special effects.

&quot;I just don’t accept what’s thrown out there for me to consume.&quot;

And yet you have no problem &quot;consuming&quot; the notion that bigger and better action sequences will somehow denegrate Trek or hinder the filmmakers&#039; ability to tell a great story about Kirk/Spock/McCoy.

I don&#039;t follow your reasoning....sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#154&#8212;-&#8221;It’s not just the article above I am responding too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I would suggest going back and reading some of the past articles. You&#8217;ll find the same equal emphasis on making clear that the story is character-driven as you will the assurance of first class action and special effects.</p>
<p>&#8220;I just don’t accept what’s thrown out there for me to consume.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet you have no problem &#8220;consuming&#8221; the notion that bigger and better action sequences will somehow denegrate Trek or hinder the filmmakers&#8217; ability to tell a great story about Kirk/Spock/McCoy.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow your reasoning&#8230;.sorry.</p>
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		<dc:creator>4 8 15 16 23 42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, you have good reason to be proud. Some people never learn that story takes precedence.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL, you have good reason to be proud. Some people never learn that story takes precedence&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closetrekker, my son&#039;s birthday is also Nov 10th.  He&#039;ll be 14.

He actually bags on some aspects of TOS (effects, stunt doubles, etc) but honestly, he has actually volunteered to watch certain episodes.  Most of these are also my favorites (TCOTEOF, Arena, etc).

Sometimes I&#039;ll glance over to see what his general reaction is while an episode is on, and I can tell he genuinely enjoys it.  At one point he quoted me and said &quot;Ya know, that is true what you said, dad... it&#039;s like a good book...  who cares about the bad special effects... story is number one...&quot;

Made me proud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closetrekker, my son&#8217;s birthday is also Nov 10th.  He&#8217;ll be 14.</p>
<p>He actually bags on some aspects of TOS (effects, stunt doubles, etc) but honestly, he has actually volunteered to watch certain episodes.  Most of these are also my favorites (TCOTEOF, Arena, etc).</p>
<p>Sometimes I&#8217;ll glance over to see what his general reaction is while an episode is on, and I can tell he genuinely enjoys it.  At one point he quoted me and said &#8220;Ya know, that is true what you said, dad&#8230; it&#8217;s like a good book&#8230;  who cares about the bad special effects&#8230; story is number one&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Made me proud</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope JJ has it right

I am not happy that he is changing the set design big style but hopefully he will deliver a good movie.

I will be giving him the benefit of the doubt, he would be such a hipocrite if his film turned out to be a film with the Star Trek name slapped onto it.

I want to have faith in JJ, I really do. I hope to be proved wrong but that bridge is so alien to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope JJ has it right</p>
<p>I am not happy that he is changing the set design big style but hopefully he will deliver a good movie.</p>
<p>I will be giving him the benefit of the doubt, he would be such a hipocrite if his film turned out to be a film with the Star Trek name slapped onto it.</p>
<p>I want to have faith in JJ, I really do. I hope to be proved wrong but that bridge is so alien to me</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bob Dobalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bob Dobalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#160- PLEASE tell me I’m wrong and why.&quot;

 You have to have faith in Nimoy.  The man knows Star Trek better than anyone making that film or anyone on this message board.  He lived it. He created it and then RE-created it, successfully in the movies.  He knew NOT to take a role in Generations because it was not good Star Trek.  He knew how to use TNG to cross promote HIS movie Trek 6.  The e man read the script and liked it enough to pull himself out of retirement to put on the rubber ears once more.  Nimoy has never treated the character  of Spock  or Star Trek lightly and feels a great responsibility towards it.  
Yes, we have to be cautiously optimistic, because there are some serious concerns.  But by the same token how can anyone not have faith in Leonard Nimoy? Creatively, the man understands what Star Trek was and what it should be.   If he read the script and thought it was good, that is one hell of a stamp of approval.  
So, as of now,  we know the inception and story was good because Nimoy told us so.  It&#039;s the final execution of that story that reamains the wild card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#160- PLEASE tell me I’m wrong and why.&#8221;</p>
<p> You have to have faith in Nimoy.  The man knows Star Trek better than anyone making that film or anyone on this message board.  He lived it. He created it and then RE-created it, successfully in the movies.  He knew NOT to take a role in Generations because it was not good Star Trek.  He knew how to use TNG to cross promote HIS movie Trek 6.  The e man read the script and liked it enough to pull himself out of retirement to put on the rubber ears once more.  Nimoy has never treated the character  of Spock  or Star Trek lightly and feels a great responsibility towards it.<br />
Yes, we have to be cautiously optimistic, because there are some serious concerns.  But by the same token how can anyone not have faith in Leonard Nimoy? Creatively, the man understands what Star Trek was and what it should be.   If he read the script and thought it was good, that is one hell of a stamp of approval.<br />
So, as of now,  we know the inception and story was good because Nimoy told us so.  It&#8217;s the final execution of that story that reamains the wild card.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bob Dobalina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bob Dobalina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ and I reach.  Star Trek is where it&#039;s at. It&#039;s colorful, it&#039;s fun, it&#039;s exciting, it&#039;s retro cool, it&#039;s imaginative, geeks and mainstreamers both grok it  and it&#039;s legendary.

The spin-offs are not.  

JJ is on the right path, can&#039;t wait for the trailer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ and I reach.  Star Trek is where it&#8217;s at. It&#8217;s colorful, it&#8217;s fun, it&#8217;s exciting, it&#8217;s retro cool, it&#8217;s imaginative, geeks and mainstreamers both grok it  and it&#8217;s legendary.</p>
<p>The spin-offs are not.  </p>
<p>JJ is on the right path, can&#8217;t wait for the trailer!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, we are now 13 days away from the new trailer... I don&#039;t know about you all but I can&#039;t wait to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, we are now 13 days away from the new trailer&#8230; I don&#8217;t know about you all but I can&#8217;t wait to see it.</p>
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