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	<title>Comments on: ST09 Trailer Countdown: Taking A Look At The Voyage Home&#8217;s Trailer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, what&#039;s Sisko&#039;s dad doing there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, what&#8217;s Sisko&#8217;s dad doing there?</p>
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		<title>By: ML31</title>
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		<dc:creator>ML31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>158. New Horizon

I disagree.  We&#039;ve seen it before.  When the comedy actually DID flow freely.  &quot;The Trouble With Tribbles&quot; is a perfect example.  In TVH, it just felt forced.  Like they were TRYING too hard to be light.  It didn&#039;t help that the story was the worst of all the movies. (I mean good lord... Time travel has been done to death on ST)  I kind of thought it would be more fun if they had to go back in time on Vulcan.  Make the humans blend in.  They could have made up some Vulcan animal for the probe to look for.  Same lame message. But not quite as much as an in-your-face approach.  OF course, such a story would not appeal to as wide an audience that TVH did.  As I said, I am in the minority here.  
TFF was not too good, but it is still more watchable than TVH.

On another matter, I will say that I never liked adding letters to the Starship names either.  The comment of going to NCC-1702 I like better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>158. New Horizon</p>
<p>I disagree.  We&#8217;ve seen it before.  When the comedy actually DID flow freely.  &#8220;The Trouble With Tribbles&#8221; is a perfect example.  In TVH, it just felt forced.  Like they were TRYING too hard to be light.  It didn&#8217;t help that the story was the worst of all the movies. (I mean good lord&#8230; Time travel has been done to death on ST)  I kind of thought it would be more fun if they had to go back in time on Vulcan.  Make the humans blend in.  They could have made up some Vulcan animal for the probe to look for.  Same lame message. But not quite as much as an in-your-face approach.  OF course, such a story would not appeal to as wide an audience that TVH did.  As I said, I am in the minority here.<br />
TFF was not too good, but it is still more watchable than TVH.</p>
<p>On another matter, I will say that I never liked adding letters to the Starship names either.  The comment of going to NCC-1702 I like better.</p>
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		<title>By: LETHLSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LETHLSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can remember when Voyage Home came out on Laser Disc (which i still have btw, all of em actually) , and Home Theaters were just getting going.. and all the AV stores in the malls in Dallas, TX were using the Voyage LD as a Surround System Demo. sounded pretty good at the time too. most stores were looping the Time Travel scene over n over, where they sling shot around the sun, and so on. 

anyway, it&#039;s one of my favorite ST films. i love time travel, can&#039;t get enough of it. that&#039;s probably why i have the whole Quantum Leap series, and all the Terminator movies, T-TSCC S1 as well. 

so many gr8 scenes in Voyage. i think it&#039;s about time to give it another watch, along with the 1st three, then prolly skip 5, and watch Undiscovered =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can remember when Voyage Home came out on Laser Disc (which i still have btw, all of em actually) , and Home Theaters were just getting going.. and all the AV stores in the malls in Dallas, TX were using the Voyage LD as a Surround System Demo. sounded pretty good at the time too. most stores were looping the Time Travel scene over n over, where they sling shot around the sun, and so on. </p>
<p>anyway, it&#8217;s one of my favorite ST films. i love time travel, can&#8217;t get enough of it. that&#8217;s probably why i have the whole Quantum Leap series, and all the Terminator movies, T-TSCC S1 as well. </p>
<p>so many gr8 scenes in Voyage. i think it&#8217;s about time to give it another watch, along with the 1st three, then prolly skip 5, and watch Undiscovered =P</p>
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		<title>By: Gavilán</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavilán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always enjoy watching ST2 and ST3. But I&#039;ve never liked this one. For me both ST4 and 5 are the worst trek movies. And I think what bothers me more are those silly humor touches. They turns the characters and the whole thing ridiculous.
Several TOS TV episodes are far more interesting and clever, having fine humour (there are exceptions of course).
By fortune ST6 is a great movie, well balanced, a good farewell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always enjoy watching ST2 and ST3. But I&#8217;ve never liked this one. For me both ST4 and 5 are the worst trek movies. And I think what bothers me more are those silly humor touches. They turns the characters and the whole thing ridiculous.<br />
Several TOS TV episodes are far more interesting and clever, having fine humour (there are exceptions of course).<br />
By fortune ST6 is a great movie, well balanced, a good farewell.</p>
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		<title>By: liquidgeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>liquidgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one of the reasons i think these films might have worked was because in a way wok tsfs and tvh were like a story arc in a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of the reasons i think these films might have worked was because in a way wok tsfs and tvh were like a story arc in a way.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@153:

There are actually two separate classes of Klingon Birds-of-Prey - B&#039;Rel class, which was the12-man scout vessel seen in ST:III &amp; ST:IV, and a larger K&#039;Vort class, which was a lot bigger - carrying a crew of about 200.

There was also a D12 class, but that appears to be very similar to the B&#039;Rel class.

So the &#039;sliding scale&#039; of Klingon Birds-of-Prey does have an explanation. However, you are right about it&#039;s scaling problems within ST:IV - it looks massive compared to the whaling ship, whereas it appears relatively small when it&#039;s landed on Vulcan. Did anyone else notice that the bridge has changed since ST:III as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@153:</p>
<p>There are actually two separate classes of Klingon Birds-of-Prey &#8211; B&#8217;Rel class, which was the12-man scout vessel seen in ST:III &amp; ST:IV, and a larger K&#8217;Vort class, which was a lot bigger &#8211; carrying a crew of about 200.</p>
<p>There was also a D12 class, but that appears to be very similar to the B&#8217;Rel class.</p>
<p>So the &#8217;sliding scale&#8217; of Klingon Birds-of-Prey does have an explanation. However, you are right about it&#8217;s scaling problems within ST:IV &#8211; it looks massive compared to the whaling ship, whereas it appears relatively small when it&#8217;s landed on Vulcan. Did anyone else notice that the bridge has changed since ST:III as well?</p>
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		<title>By: jon1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#81

Thats what i&#039;m talking about.

I got the title card slightly wrong on the UK version - just what is the O in the word voyage supposed to be.

Is it the probe?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYCDsS3UjE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#81</p>
<p>Thats what i&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>I got the title card slightly wrong on the UK version &#8211; just what is the O in the word voyage supposed to be.</p>
<p>Is it the probe?</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYCDsS3UjE" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYCDsS3UjE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Enterprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enterprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>160 - Scotty specifically says that the Dilithium Crystals would burn out in 24 hours, and the ship would decloak in the park and be stranded. They had to re energize the crystals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>160 &#8211; Scotty specifically says that the Dilithium Crystals would burn out in 24 hours, and the ship would decloak in the park and be stranded. They had to re energize the crystals.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TVH was a wonderful, fun film.

It was a great idea, and a great end to the 2/3/4 trilogy. It&#039;s success was the reason TNG and all its pals were released, and why we have a new film coming in six months.

It was great for fans (Jane Wyatt! Slingshot effect!) and regular punters alike.  A perfect story.

It&#039;s amazing that it led to the dross that was TFF, and not to another Nimoy-helmed film.  It&#039;s all history, I guess, and we owe Mr. Nimoy a debt of gratitude that he could put Trek solidly into the mainstream in 1986.

Hopefully JJ will do the same next May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TVH was a wonderful, fun film.</p>
<p>It was a great idea, and a great end to the 2/3/4 trilogy. It&#8217;s success was the reason TNG and all its pals were released, and why we have a new film coming in six months.</p>
<p>It was great for fans (Jane Wyatt! Slingshot effect!) and regular punters alike.  A perfect story.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing that it led to the dross that was TFF, and not to another Nimoy-helmed film.  It&#8217;s all history, I guess, and we owe Mr. Nimoy a debt of gratitude that he could put Trek solidly into the mainstream in 1986.</p>
<p>Hopefully JJ will do the same next May.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I actually didn&#039;t finish my point in 159 - the 24 hours in the trailer was bogus, as stated in #66. They don&#039;t have &quot;24 hours to complete their mission.&quot; They had all the time they needed. The mission was to get the whales. The 24 hour thing was an obstacle during the mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I actually didn&#8217;t finish my point in 159 &#8211; the 24 hours in the trailer was bogus, as stated in #66. They don&#8217;t have &#8220;24 hours to complete their mission.&#8221; They had all the time they needed. The mission was to get the whales. The 24 hour thing was an obstacle during the mission.</p>
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