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By: ponnfarr9696

ponnfarr9696 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:46:19 +0000

I stand corrected……..YOU ARE POSITRONIC!………..(posted before any response) also betazoid…lol….The new movie sure has a lot of trekkies working on it……But are they purist trekkies?( if not … they are all drunk on romulan ale)……I think there is a good balance here……My favorite of all the movies has to be WOK+SFS….mostly because it is one movie(aside from recasting Saavik)….Dealing with many elements in all of the Characters ….(Kirk/David, Spock/McCoy, Kirk/Klingon hatred,Old vs new,……and a little bit of the sexy side of uhura…..It had deep philosophical meaning (spock)…Lots of action and Idealism….I hope the new films represent some of this.

By: ponnfarr9696

ponnfarr9696 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:33:09 +0000

I think the new film will most definetely be a good enough film to see,…Not all of us have the same resources available to us ,not everyone that enjoys Trek eats it for breakfast,lunch and dinner,I guess I am just too down to earth ,I have enjoyed everything trek I have ever seen….Although some episodes/species /storylines/series/ships/captains/times/dimensions/officers/actors/stations/authors/relationships/characters/Producers/spinoffs /opinions/Klingons/romulans/vulcans/ferenghi/cardassian/changeling/veridian/gemhaddar/positronic androids have different opinions…..It makes no sense that people should pick anyones (especially Gene Roddenberrys)…visions apart……I mean who really cares If episode 14
season 6 storyline is not represented properly in 2008 because the bathrooms on the lower deck of the Enterprise are reversed from east to west?….Some people actually live in rural areas where there has never been a star trek convention……..That does not make us underlings……That is why I have always been reluctant to call myself a “trekkie”…….Because of this very thing….I have a deep love for Star Trek and its characters but dont hold a doctorate in starfleet history……..the movie hopefully will appeal to others like me…..and take some of the smarmy intellectualism out the the fandom…or at least level the playing field.

By: Yspano

Yspano — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:30:24 +0000

@ 347
He’s ill?? Oh no! I know he underwent surgery for throat cancer, but I was under the impression he’s fine now.

But I agree though. Ebert’s scathing reviews are a pleasure to read. (His review of “Nemesis” left me laughing, simply because his observations were so true!)

By: Falvoant

Falvoant — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:20:08 +0000

343 maybe he will sell the pricing guns and get rid of the cosmetics counters

By: Lore

Lore — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:31:37 +0000

#343 With Kirk’s reputation I’m sure he’ll be “Diming The Lights” every chance he gets.

By: Closettrekker

Closettrekker — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:25:51 +0000

#337—-”Ah yes, the old Trek timetravel debate! When the past is changed, does the present immediately alter, or is there just an alternate universe a la Schroedinger’s Cat… I am willing to buy the Prime timeline still exists…”

Here’s the problem with the theory that an alternate timeline can exist parallel to the old one…

When McCoy disrupts the timeline by preventing the death of Edith Keeler (”City On The Edge Of Forever”), the landing party cannot contact the Enterprise because it is no longer there. The Federation no longer exists. If McCoy’s actions simply result in a new timeline that does not interupt the existing one, why the change? Shouldn’t the timeline in which the Nazis did not win the Second World War continue parallel to the new one?

Why is it even necessary for Captain Christopher to be returned to a point in time prior to his encounter with the Enterprise and her crew (”Tommorow Is Yesterday”)? Shouldn’t his absence from the timeline simply create a spinoff timeline which does not interfere with the progression of the other?

Likewise, why should the absence of Selek (Spock) from the younger Spock’s experience with the Kas-Wan ritual (”Yesteryear”)result in a change in their own timeline, rather than a spinoff timeline that has nothing to do with theirs?

That theory, despite its possible merits, is contrary to long established canon. It therefore cannot be accurate, at least within the Star Trek Universe.

If Nero’s interference results in a permanently altered timeline (meaning Spock is unable to restore it completely), the other timeline must cease to progress. If not, there is no real need for Spock to bother following Nero into the past at all. Nothing would really be in jeopardy, would it?

Liken Nero to McCoy in “COTEOF”, although McCoy’s disruption of the timeline is actually unintentional. He commits an act which alters the course of history.

Hypothetically, what if Kirk and Spock had been unable to prevent McCoy from interfering the next time around?

This is where Nimoy’s Spock is in STXI—a postion where he is forced to interfere with the course of history himself in order to ensure that the “bigger picture” plays out as it is supposed to in the timeline he knows.

It would be like Kirk and Spock, having failed in their attempt to stop McCoy (for the sake of discussion), taking action to ensure that the Nazis do not prevail, and that the United States’ entry into WWII is not delayed (despite Edith Keeler).

By: AJ

AJ — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:21:22 +0000

346:

Roger Ebert is apparently extremely ill.

If he’s around to catch Trek XI, I will happily seek out his review.

If it is a bomb, he will skewer it. And that’s a pleasure to read.

By: Yspano

Yspano — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:51:12 +0000

@ 345
Haha, I can already imagine Ebert, who ranted about the shields on the Enterprise continually running out of power no matter how advanced technology got, complaining about a 23rd century computer on an interplanetary spacecraft (”Interplanetary, mind you,” he would probably repeat) that only knows English! (But maybe if the rest of the movie turns out good, Ebert will be in a forgiving mood!)

By: The Quickening

The Quickening — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:16:56 +0000

240 – “The scenes with the computer not understanding Chekov’s accent, when all he has to do is speak Russian, doesn’t seem like smart writing.”

#252 – And Scotty talking into a computer mouse is?

And who said that wasn’t silly as well? It’s just not as gross an example of what Roger Ebert called the “idiot plot” as Chekov’s scenes are, nor was Scotty’s lame joke carried on in ST: 4 continuously as Chekov’s in the new film is suppose to.