Look up Star Trek Online. The new Star Trek MMO explores the old universe after the events of this movie- Destruction of Romulus, Spock disappearing, etc etc.

Before I watched this film my main complaint was that the writer was too lazy to make an effort to introduce the characters in some kind of logical order… Nero coming back in time really wouldn’t change when people are born after all… therefore it seemed wrong to have Kirk in the academy with Uhura. This turned out to be handled adequately, however, as Kirk enters the academy late (even I don’t care if it was late enough).

After watching the thing I have to admit that it was fun and that none of this will matter if there are any future movies… This first one will just be glossed over in an effort to get on with our beloved franchise. BUT, can someone please explain to me how Nero killing Kirk’s father allows Kirk to go from 3rd year cadet (let’s say he is as good as he thinks and call him a senior–maybe even ready to graduate) to captain in what? a week?

Some advice to the writer–a parallel to this happened in STNG. Riker’s double from when he was a lieutenant didn’t get promoted just because Riker did… and neither would Kirk. You should have wasted 10 minutes showing him graduating and being assigned to the Farragut or whatever… Then said “8 years later.” It still would have been too fast, but at least it wouldn’t have been stupid… Normally I would say the quickest way to make Captain is to be reduced in rank via courts martial… in fact Kirk did that in the old movies… but not anymore… just be a hero and skip the 5 ranks between… PRESTO – Congratulations “Captain Kirk.”

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“Thank you Tony. I argued with someone for about an hour that insisted that you can time travel using a blackhole. He even argued that it was possible if the blackhole was a Kerr hole, which has yet to be proven and even if it did exist the laws of physics still apply.”

Theroetically, a “Kerr” black hole is the only type of black hole which would be able to allow timetravel.
As a matter a fact, the most common types of black holes are “Kerr” black holes.

The common known description of a black hole which states that nothing can escape it’s pull, and that the object would be crushed once it reached it’s singularity only applies to the most extreme type of black hole…A Schwarzchild Black Hole.

A Kerr black hole has a rotating axis, which means the object caught in it’s event horizon orbits the black hole as it is being pulled in. THis orbiting motion reduces the strain on the pull on the object and would allow the object to journey through the event horizon without being ripped apart.
THis also allows the object to eecape it’s pull under the right circumstances.
Along with the rotating axis, the kerr black hole does not have a pinpoint singularity at it’s center. Instead it has a ring schaped collection of rotating neutrons. THis would allow the object to pass through the center without being crushed.
THis type of black hole is also theorized as a method of time travel.

A Schwrazchild black hole, does not rotate…Which means the objects being pulled towrads it would enter in a direct line rather than an orbit. As a result of a direct entry, the object would be torn to shred during it’s journey.
The center of this black hole does not have a ring shape, but rather a pin point singularity which would crush the object passing through the center.
THis type of black hole would not be effective for time travel.

And yes, as you stated, the Kerr black hole has not been proven as a method of timetravel….But then again, NO method of time travel has been proven…..But that hasn’t prevented previous Trek shows/films from employing unproven theories as timetravel methods in the past.

“Past Tense” is especially damaging as the Defiant protected by some particles remains in the present and can actually SEE the changes in the present due to Sisko’s actions.

“Year of Hell” involves a ship able to change the present by changing the past and protected by a new shield configuration Voyager sees the present changed.

PD: excuse my english, i usually speaks spanish (trekker 100% Argento ;)

Orci is explaining the alternate timeline WITHIN this story.

To think that he would dismiss the problem as easily is kinda enraging.

Besides, ok, in some episodes of canon there is many-world interpretation, BUT they always single out THE timeline they want to restore, and try and fix it.

Also, this idea that in the different timeline the old crew would somehow find itself together once again, through different routes, is ludicrous. Just as much at the same people being in the mirror universe of DS9.

Too easy, man. Too convenient. Great movie, but these aspects suck.