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A Holiday Update From JJ Abrams December 22, 2008

by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: Abrams,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

The new Star Trek movie is 136 days away, but the original plan was for it to be here in just three days, on Christmas. Back in February Paramount moved the film to the bigger summer season, but director JJ Abrams has pretty much stuck with his original schedule. Today Abrams posted a comment for fans at the official Star Trek Facebook page about the status of the movie. Read it below.

 

Abrams Comment (posted at Facebook)

We’re just making final tweaks to the movie — we should be totally locked next week. Then we’re going to flash-freeze it so it’s totally fresh for you in May. I can’t wait for you to see the movie. The cast is awesome. The action and effects pushed the stunt team and ILM beyond their limits. I’m so grateful to this cast and crew — and to all of you for your interest and patience. We’ll continue to update this page with new info and exclusives, so check back when you think of it. In the meantime, have a happy, healthy, fun holiday!

From the last days of the sound mix,

JJ

 

While you wait, you can watch the (quadruple Spockified) Star Trek trailer.

 

Comments

1. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

Something to look forward to in ’09.

2. S. John Ross - December 22, 2008

Happy Holidays, JJ. Here’s hoping the movie satisfies me, you, your intended audience, a few unintended audiences, and the guy scooping the popcorn. Or, barring that, that it makes a pile of cash and pressures someone into making a new TV series, regardless :)

3. That One Guy - December 22, 2008

And to all a good night!

4. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

JJ looks a smidgen like “Computer Wore Tennis Shoes” era Kurt Russell.

5. Harry Ballz - December 22, 2008

Waiting for the movie like this reminds me what it felt like on Christmas Eve as a child!

6. LordCheeseCakeBreath - December 22, 2008

I’m addicted to this site.

7. captain_neill - December 22, 2008

He better make this a good movie. He has changed so much, it better pay off for Star Trek fans. he has insulted the fans with his comments so this better be a great reward.

I want to love this film and hope to be proven wrong.

8. Orb of the Emissary - December 22, 2008

Oh! How exciting! Why can’t it be May yet??

9. Katarian Eggs - December 22, 2008

That gives you plenty of time to fix the Enterprise & make it look like it used to & re-edit the plot so it doesn’t totally trash canon, as it currently does!
Good news, JJ! You can still save this from being as bad as the Star Wars prequels!!
Don’t forget to edit out Jar-Jar & the crystal skull!!

10. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

8 – So that Paramount will have time to push its release date back to Christmas ’09?

11. MORN SPEAKS - December 22, 2008

It blows my mind that we were supposed to see this movie this week!

12. MORN SPEAKS - December 22, 2008

BTW, it’s disgusting how many times I’ve seen this trailer!

13. krikzil - December 22, 2008

I want to use some of Orci’s QM and make the movie premiere as previously scheduled! ;)

14. SPB - December 22, 2008

Is it me, or does Nimoy/Spock look like a vampire in that shot? His eyes strike me as VERY creepy. They look all black with no whites.

15. Katarian Eggs - December 22, 2008

Here here, Captain Neill.( #7)
Unfortunately, Abrams comments & lack of respect for long term Trekkies like myself, already has me thinking I won’t even see this or acknowledge it as Trek.
Sad, huh?

16. Steven - December 22, 2008

I finally saw the trailer on the big screen (with “Quantum of Solace”), and it looks even more awesome on the BS! God, I can’t wait for this movie!

17. Doug in Kabul, Afghanistan - December 22, 2008

Oh, stop. I sure don’t feel JJ has insulted us fans.

I, for one, am counting the days till the release (and my return home — less than 50 now) of the movie.

Happy Holidays, everyone.

18. cellojammer - December 22, 2008

I’m a long term Trek fan, but have never felt insulted by anything said by anybody associated with this production.

Thick hide people, thick hide…

19. James Heaney - Wowbagger - December 22, 2008

I’ve been a Trekkie for as long as anyone of my generation, and I feel like you’d have to already be a bit combative about this movie to be offended by anything anyone has said.

20. Enterprise - December 22, 2008

Okay, who put the tree in the Transporter?

21. McCoy's Gall Bladder - December 22, 2008

I’m so old I expect to be dust by May…

(le sigh, le sigh)

With the passing of Majel, along with Doohan, Kelly, Mark Lenard, et al., I’m ready for Trek to move onto a new generation.

Most of the people I admired as a kid are dead now… time for me to move on, too.

22. NCC-73515 - December 22, 2008

Why don’t you give us something like the first minutes or at least one scene of the movie? That would be a cool christmas present in honor of the original release date ;)
Please!

23. Enterprise - December 22, 2008

I’m sure starting in Jan, we’ll get a ton of new scenes. We’ll get one more trailer, and maybe some cool scenes on the websties.

24. cugel the clever - December 22, 2008

7. captain_neill – December 22, 2008

” He better make this a good movie. He has changed so much, it better pay off for Star Trek fans. he has insulted the fans with his comments so this better be a great reward.”

You are pathetic.

25. Enterprise - December 22, 2008

Lol, at people still harping on JJ. There’s been so many different interpretations of Trek over the years. Give ti a rest people.

26. cugel the clever - December 22, 2008

15. Katarian Eggs – December 22, 2008

” Here here, Captain Neill.( #7)
Unfortunately, Abrams comments & lack of respect for long term Trekkies like myself, already has me thinking I won’t even see this or acknowledge it as Trek.
Sad, huh?”

You are the sad one (and pathetic too).

27. Kayla Iacovino - December 22, 2008

133 extra days of waiting! ahhh!

28. cugel the clever - December 22, 2008

9. Katarian Eggs – December 22, 2008

“That gives you plenty of time to fix the Enterprise & make it look like it used to & re-edit the plot so it doesn’t totally trash canon, as it currently does!
Good news, JJ! You can still save this from being as bad as the Star Wars prequels!!
Don’t forget to edit out Jar-Jar & the crystal skull!!”

Good news, JJ! After your brilliant re-imagining of ST is a huge critical and financial success, we won’t hear again from a$$holes like this.

29. rm10019 - December 22, 2008

26 – That is sad. Let it go and hopefully you will enjoy a good movie in May

30. Sean - December 22, 2008

I still think it’s a big mistake to open this movie in May. It’s competing against so many other widely anticipated, sure-thing movies that I doubt Trek will make as much money as if it had opened on Christmas. Paramount, you should know better.

31. Lil' black dog - December 22, 2008

Heartfelt thanks JJ, for keeping this franchise, and especially TOS, alive for those of us who love it. I can’t remember when I’ve been anticipating the release of a movie so much. Wish it were in three days, but it’s not so I’ll just have to get over it ;-). Here’s hoping this movie lives up to its expectations, and more, and leads to a renewed interest in TOS, its beloved characters, and Mr. Roddenberry’s vision of the future.

Happy Holidays!

One very grateful Trekkie

32. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

31 – Great sentiments of gratitude for us all to keep in mind this holiday season. Thanks.

Plus, we should all remember that we have so many things to be grateful for in addition to and besides “Star Trek.”

33. Lil' black dog - December 22, 2008

# 17 Doug in Kabul

Thank you for your service, Doug. Wishing you a safe return in 50 days, and as happy a holiday as can be expected far from your family.

34. NCC-73515 - December 22, 2008

Why don’t they use the time to make it 3D?

35. Ergo Proxy - December 22, 2008

You can bet that a movie being finished THIS early will also take advantage of the Blu-Ray / DVD release production. Meaning that they’ll start working on the Discs release so they’re ready to be pressed by the time it hits the theaters.

It’s nothing new, but it does provide the company for a quite and painless transition to the home video market.

Having said that, you can also expect that this movie, once it hits the theaters will also hit the net in a very good quality cause there’s ALWAYS some moron who steals a copy and uploads it. Nothing new, but, then for those who steal it from the net, should be ashamed of them selves for not giving the Movie it’s GRAND experience in having it experienced on the silver screen.

This film will be best either way, in the perfect environment. :)

So, this is the road map for having to push it so far into 09.

Also, May, is going to be an insane month!

I’ve counted 3 major movies coming out in May! I don’t get it why some people want to compete for that slot! It’s horrible time to go up against such giants!

36. ster julie - December 22, 2008

17. –Doug, I echo #33. Lil’ black dog in wishing you godspeed in your last 50 days in Iraq. Come home safe and sound, and may this madness cease.

37. Dom - December 22, 2008

cugel the clever

You’re rude, but you’re right! ;)

The stupidity of people who don’t understand marketing is shocking. We’ve got a great-looking new film on its way offering Trek a fresh start and some people can only whinge.

I hope they boycott the film, because the thought of having sad little whingers sat next to me or behind me muttering through the film.

I swear, these sort of people make me embarrassed to be a Trek fan!

38. Mark - December 22, 2008

This movie better to live up to the hype..Cause that T4 movie a week later looks rad

39. fred - December 22, 2008

I’m just jazzed that we’re getting new adventueres of Kirk and Spock. We could be seeing a new crew and ship and who would care about that?

40. Driver - December 22, 2008

If the film were released next week as planned, they would have had to rush it to make the deadline and that would have irked more than a few of us hardcore trekkies.

41. Odkin - December 22, 2008

As much as we all want to see this movie, it pains me to read people’s comments wishing away months of their lives. Don’t be in such a rush to wish 6 months away. Have fun every day until May anticipating the new movie. It will get here. But you’ll never get those days back.

42. ZtoA - December 22, 2008

I saw the IMAX trailer before “Day The Earth Stood Still”. Trek in IMAX is going to be off the chain! “Day” IMAX however was poo-poo, Kah-kah.

43. Kirk, James T. - December 22, 2008

I have to hand it to JJ Abrams – this new movie looks awesome and lets face it, it’ll clean more than just the Trek slate – it’ll get rid of some of the most ridiculous of fans wining over the tiniest details. i agree with 28 and 37!

seriously, i can’t wait for the revolution to begin. May 8th 2009!!!!

44. Enterprise - December 22, 2008

I don’t want it in 3D. 3D is terrible. The only really decent 3D I ever saw for a movie was with Superman Returns.

45. Harley3k - December 22, 2008

re: canon winers.
Just stop watching all of the movies and stick to DVDs (originals, not HD) of TOS.

By your standards, ST I violated canon because the Klingons had bumpy foreheads. You should’ve opted out of all movies after that.

46. Enterprise - December 22, 2008

And Season 2 violated canon, cause they never said Spock’s mom was a teacher.

47. Jordan - December 22, 2008

Always nice to hear another update. May is too far away!

48. 750 Mang - December 22, 2008

“All my hopes…”

49. James Tiberius "my cabin in the Nexus hasn't depreciated" Kirk - December 22, 2008

15. Katarian Eggs – December 22, 2008
Here here, Captain Neill.( #7)
Unfortunately, Abrams comments & lack of respect for long term Trekkies like myself, already has me thinking I won’t even see this or acknowledge it as Trek.
Sad, huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not sad at all; the rest of us won’t have to share the theater you. Please stay home and watch your TOS dvds over and over again and let the world change around you. That’ll teach those kids and their newfangled horseless carriages who come around and bring a great show into the 21st century!

50. Xai - December 22, 2008

Tired of the “JJ insulted the fans and me” lines. Those spouting the complaints seem to have very selective hearing and memory. Don’t you tire of your own negativity?

51. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

50 – “Don’t you tire of your own negativity?”

Boy, I have a friend, more of an associate, who never seems to tire of it — he’s negative and gloomy about everything! You almost dread asking him “how’s it going?” because the answer is never a happy one.

Of course, when people get locked into a depression cycle, it can be one hell of an endless loop to try to break out of.

I think when a lot of people post negative comments about the new movie (and I say this from the standpoint of being a TOS purist who is becoming increasingly curious about this film), there’s usually other things going on in their lives that has them in a funk about the new film, and, no doubt, about many other things in their lives as well.

We should probably just try to wish them well. Maybe even pray for them, if you are so inclined. I’ll give it a shot for this gloomy guy I know. The holidays are a tough time of year for many people …

52. dyaleleon - December 22, 2008

Looking forward to this !!! The trailer looks great, and the score is fantastic …

53. Deebo Shanks - December 22, 2008

JJ Abrams is okay and all, I just wish Joss Whedon was doing Star Trek instead. In fact, I would trade this new Star Trek movie right now or a Serenity sequel. Firefly is what Star Trek: Enterprise should have been!

54. Xai - December 22, 2008

#51 Brett

A refreshing post… I’ll consider that.
God bless and Merry Christmas

55. Radioactive Spock - December 22, 2008

Anybody else notice how in some pictures JJ looks a bit like a Vorta? No offense JJ. I mean it in a good way.

56. Brett Campbell - December 22, 2008

54 – Xai — Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. God does bless. I hope you have a terrific new year.

It will be something, won’t it? Having TOS characters back on screen for the first time in so many years.

57. Chris M - December 23, 2008

Can’t wait until May! Was good of JJ to post that message!

Merry Christmas and Happy and safe New Year to JJ and all involved with Star Trek, everyone at trekmovie.com and all of my fellow Trekkies!!

58. McCoy - December 23, 2008

Ugghh.

So tired of cugel the clever and Xai trying to rein in and demonize anyone who does not fall in line with their way of thinking. I’m thinking they only cruise the threads to find people who disagree with them so they have something to say.

59. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

Can I ask why anyone posts a concern about what Abrams is changing you are automaticaly penalized. God it ses to be a crime to voice concerns of a movie these days, a little to fascist. Is it a crime to be concerned because a guy is making changes to a show you have loved since you were a kid. I have enjoyed Star Trek since I was 7.

Did you read that I want to like this movie and I hope to be enjoying this movie when it hits.

To me its niave to think this will be good just because Rick Berman is not involved and JJ Abrams is. I know what JJ is trying to do, and I dont think he has to show disrespect for the fans to get that hard core base there.

Just expect a few people to be annoyed at changes like this, I feel penalized everytime I voice a concern. Remember I do want to love this film but I feel the alternate timeline is a cop outto get round canon inconsistencies. Nimoy’s involvement is getting me hope.

I have concerns the Enterprise is being altered too much yet I get penalized for that and I hate the new bridge and I get penalized for this. I just feel annoyed that people here insult you if you a few concerns.

I mean I want some changes but not this much.

I hope to be proven wrong in May but I have all the rest on DVD. Also I want the kids to like our Star Trek, not this new version. This X Factor generation is too dumbed down for my liking and I will scream if Star Trek is dumbed down with this movie. I love Star Trek so much and I don’t want it to be trashed when coming back to the mainstream.

60. Enc - December 23, 2008

JJ Abrams has pretty much stuck with his original schedule.

Im sorry
‘pretty much’?
NO
hes actualy a few weeks at least. behind schedule.
sad
kinda reminds me of the shuttle bay scene in TFF

61. Devon - December 23, 2008

#59 – “I know what JJ is trying to do, and I dont think he has to show disrespect for the fans to get that hard core base there.”

And that is something he isn’t doing either.

62. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

Remember I do want to love this film but I have a lot of changes to get use to here.

I find that Kirk going straight from Cadet to Captain really silly, that would never happen and is very unrealistic to me, there is a little thing called the chain of command. I understand the alternate timeline will change the Farragut tour of duty but a cadet to captain is silly. You have to go from ensign to commander before that.

Anyway I am sure the film will be great when it hits. All I am saying is this film will not be our Star Trek. Doesn’t mean I won’t like it.

63. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

61 – I feel he has lost a few of us by saying this movie is not for them.

I hope to be proven wrong. I was voicing my anger that any concerns I put up make me the bad guy. I am not a JJ Abrams, and I guess his attitude is very scary. I have been a Trek fan for nearly 20 years and to hear JJ saying the new movie is not for fans makes me feel left out of a party.

I hope to be proven wrong.

64. Rick Moyer - December 23, 2008

I can’t wait for this movie! It’s going to rock.

65. Randal Flagg - December 23, 2008

Anyone else think Shatner will be back in it (If they are messing with the timeline….)

66. Green-Blooded-Bastard - December 23, 2008

I wonder if they fixed the “top is up-top is down” convertible scene.

67. Remington Steele - December 23, 2008

Meow!

oh wait, wrong message board.

68. cellojammer - December 23, 2008

I’ve been a fan for about 35 years and I’m taking a wait and see attitude about this movie. But instead of nitpicking my way through every little tidbit and quote to confirm a preconception that “this is gonna suck”, I’m approaching it with an open mind and a healthy dose of optimism.

As much as I like Star Trek, my ego or my well-being aren’t dependent upon it matching my expectations. I don’t even WANT them to tailor it to my needs. They are absolutely on the right track when they follow their own creative instincts. I am heartened by this fact.

Some people should step back and get some perspective. Maybe they’ll lighten up.

69. Redshirt - December 23, 2008

I’m not a trekkie, I don’t think, but I’ve watched a decent portion of the different Star Trek series. And to me it seems like the original Star Trek was alot like a mythology with all the strange encounters and situations the crew found themselves in. Granted, they de-mythologized themselves at some point, but the original Star Trek is still very mythological. Now, with this new movie it looks like they’ll be de-mythologizing Star Trek even more. I like it! :D

70. Anthony Pascale - December 23, 2008

captain neill and “insulted fans”…Abrams has done no such thing, do not apply your interpretation to all of fandom and just make stuff up.

71. Redshirt - December 23, 2008

Oh and Sylar as Spock! Awesome!

72. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

70

ok I guess I must be reading between the lines when he says he is not making this for non fans. I hope to be proven wrong and hope to really love this movie.

Anthony- Despite the changes can you assure me that depite the changes this will still be the Star Trek we know and love. Iknow it will be updated but from the clips you saw does it still feel like Trek. If it feels like Trek I will be happy.

73. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I meant not making it for fans

74. Trekee (insulted not) - December 23, 2008

Hmm, Christmas message = flame war?

JJ: “We’re putting in huge special effects and great stunts”.

Trolls: “Gaghagghhh, how DARE you!!!!!”

It’s a long time ’til May, so just keep drip feeding us news please.

75. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I guess this is the right direction to go. Its scary all these changes

76. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I will end up loving the movie its just the changes are scarying me.

I hope you understand, I have accepted the actor changes and I prob will not get use to the new sets but if it respectsd Roddenberry I will love it.

77. Anthony Pascale - December 23, 2008

i cannot ‘assure’ how you or anyone else will feel, but I did write a very long thing on the preview

http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/20/anthonys-thoughts-on-the-la-star-trek-movie-presentation/

78. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I am not a troll, I just have some concerns which no one seems to care about. I am thinking of starting the BBRB

79. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

Anthony did it feel like Trek to you?

80. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

if it feels like Trek I will be happy, I guess I have to get use to these changes.

Guess the dedication plaque to the Enterprise will now be changed

81. Anthony Pascale - December 23, 2008

neill i am signing off, read my article. I spent a lot of time writing it so if you are that worried, read it.

and stop making so many posts in a row, that is called spamming

and regarding the whole ‘making the movie for non fans’ has been gone over ad-nasuem, including in my interview with Orci. This movie was made for fans and non-fans. Abrams has described it that way, but often when talking to the mainstream media he emphasizes that the movie is made for new fans. Why? Because that is the audience he is speaking to…potential new fans. Star Trek has been dying for over a decade and needs new fans to survive as anything more than just a niche little thing. So get used to Abrams and Paramount doing a lot of promoting of this film to a wider audience and if you are going to be insulted every time he doesnt pander to the fans, then maybe you should just stop reading and listening to things he says when talking to the mainstream press.

82. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I never meant to come across like this, I hope to love this film, Bob Orci’s comments give me hope and so does Nimoy but guess I am not an Abrams fan thats all.

I hope to be a better fan of him when May comes, I hope to call him the man who saved Trek in May, I was skeptical of heath ledger as Joker and Daniel Craig as Bond but I love them both now, this will be the same.

83. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

By the way the trailer is great on the big screen

I do love the buckle up line

84. Anthony Pascale - December 23, 2008

well you totally ignore me so warning for spamming Neill
1 out of 4 posts in this thread are from you…that is ridiculous.

85. Chris Auckland - December 23, 2008

Ha! This is like a comedy trek bitching war, and Captain_Neill is properly retreating now…this is quite funny!

To be honest if JJ wasn’t doing this for the fans then why do some of the Supreme Court talk direct to trekmovie? I mean he essentially is liasing with this site and thus the fans about developements in the film! People need to sit back and accept that

a) It’s not the 60s anymore! If TOS and of had the kind of budget that this film does…it would be like this, times change and

b) the film has to be made to appeal to a wider audience…just look at Nemisis!

All in all I am totally buzzed by this film! This is the only website I have ever bothered to check atleast twice everyday (except when i played Planetarion and Tribal Wars ha!)! I can’t wait! So from other otherside of the Atlantic I say “Bloody good show JJ you old bean”! Bring on the trek!

86. Chris Auckland - December 23, 2008

HA WOW! Sorry for “spamming” but this is the first time since I started regularly checking this website that I have actually posted and its kind of exciting….how lame is that actually!

Love it!

87. captain_neill - December 23, 2008

I am sorry for spamming, I did not mean to. If it offended anyone then I apologise.

My anger has evaporated, I know that I will be going to see this film and I know my fears will evaporate when I see this movie. It will be better than Nemesis.

To quote Kirk in Star trek Vi, I guess I am just afraid of change.

I look forward to the movie, thats bring it on and enjoy the new Trek, its not the same but that does not mean I will hate. I really do hope to love it.

88. BeyondtheTech - December 23, 2008

Wow, I can’t believe it’s almost January, I can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just hope it isn’t the Klingons arming torpedoes.

Seriously, we’re looking at just over 5 months away! Thanks JJ for the best birthday present! :)

89. Blowback - December 23, 2008

captain_neil

No need for a reply but I understand what you are saying. Overall I think those who voice their concerns in a constructive manner are not abused on this site. It’s those who come in saying “it’s not the ST I remember from the past so it sucks, I hate JJ, it was created to have mainstream appeal so I hope it goes down in flames, etc.” that get the blowback.

It’s okay to be hopeful but hesitant to embrace this movie. Anthony has done an outstanding job of keeping us informed and letting everyone have their say. So relax and enjoy the ride until May because we are not going to be able to judge for ourselves til that time…

90. Horatio - December 23, 2008

Abrams uses a term i’m not familiar with in movie-lingo. What the frack is “flash-freezing” a film? Or is he just trying to be witty like he’s puting the film into a nice tight tupperware sealed vault?

91. richpit - December 23, 2008

90:

I think he was just being witty…”flash freezing” it so it “fresh” for us in May. Like the peas in your freezer.

92. AdamTrek - December 23, 2008

#91 richpit

Star Trek is NOT made of peas!

Oh, noes!

=A=

93. Dom - December 23, 2008

91. richpit: ‘I think he was just being witty…”flash freezing” it so it “fresh” for us in May. Like the peas in your freezer.’

Let the loonies commence complaining that neo-Trek is being likened to instant coffee, rather than a rich continental roast! ;)

94. screaming satellite - December 23, 2008

i know plenty people are annoyed about the release being changed but IMO i think summer 2009 is a better time as its the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing (July 20) – and that cant be a bad thing considering this one looks to tie into the reality of space travel and whats gone before (as seen in the early construction teaser trailer)

plus its also the 40th anniversary of the final Trek (TOS) episode…the 30th anniversary of the very first trek movie…the 25th anniversary of The Search for Spock and perhaps most important of all – its the 20th anniversary of Star Trek V

I mean what is 2008 to star trek?…i don’t think theres much in the way of anniversaries etc is there?

95. Alex Rosenzweig - December 23, 2008

Here’s hoping that the cast and crew of “Star Trek” have a wonderful holiday season, and thanks go to Mr. Abrams for posting an update, Anthony for including it here, and, as always, Bob O. for being around so much this year to talk to us fans and deal with our wildly varying opinions, hopes, and fears.

Best to all of you!

96. Closettrekker - December 23, 2008

I am a fan of over 30 years and have never once felt insulted by anything Abrams has said to the potential moviegoers who might not identify themselves as established Star Trek fans. In fact, I would find his marketing strategy incompetent if he did not say precisely the kinds of things he does. Fortunately, I believe that the majority of Star Trek fans are intelligent enough to comprehend what he is doing and why.

There also seems to be this rather irrational (IMO) fear that the film is going to be “dumbed down”, simply because a trailer was put together which obviously was geared toward courting an audience that isn’t traditionally in theaters on opening weekend if the name “Star Trek” precedes the title.

Addition does not mean automatic subtraction. TOS was sexy, adventurous, somewhat action-oriented, humorous, and still quite thought-provoking at times. The return of action, sexuality, and fun to the Star Trek Universe does not mean that it must be dumbed-down. There is no reason to assume that.

Does anyone actually believe that what attracted Nimoy to the script was the dumbing-down of Star Trek? And–if not, what was it then? I, for one, believe that there is something inspiring in this story which caught Mr. Nimoy’s attention, perhaps even some message which he found worthy of his work. Let’s face it. The man doesn’t need the money. He is beyond the age in which most men retire and enjoy the fruits of their life’s work.

So, the opinion of this man who was intimately involved throughout the process is optimistic, yet somehow fans who have seen only a two-minute trailer and descriptions of 20 minutes worth of footage see fit to question the intelligence of this story.

97. Akaranger - December 23, 2008

JJ all I have to say your a True visinary when it comes to kept things to its orginal I thank you for bring it back to its orginal ruts

98. A Mad-Man In Love - December 23, 2008

It doesn’t get any hotter than this! Happy Christmas to you all, and best wishes for 2009

99. Brett Campbell - December 23, 2008

96 – Good points. I think most people have this concern over “dumbing-down” based more on what often appears to be the current climate in Hollywood than on the inherent merits and integrity of “Star Trek.”

And you’re right that Leonard Nimoy’s participation should be regarded as indication that we will receive a quality “Star Trek” film next May.

100. Admiral McCoy - December 23, 2008

#89

Bull! You know as well as I that anyone with a mindset that doesn’t stroke the proverbial shaft of the new Star Trek gets flamed on these boards by the revisionists!

I can’t believe Star Trek fans have come to calling each other pathetic (I’m talking to you, cugel the arguably clever)! And sadly, I saw no sign of Anthony going bitch-cakes on -him-!

I mean, really? Pathetic for an opinion? PATHETIC? We’re all typing messages on a goddam Star Trek message forum! Who are we to be calling each other pathetic? We should be celebrating Star Trek’s very existence instead of commencing with internal bickering!

101. William Kirk - December 23, 2008

I have the feeling, that the “fanatical” rebootists are intollerant and rude and can’t respect, that someone doesn’t like the reboot idea. Why? I respet that someone likes the idea about the new movie. But please don’t force it to me. I also don’t force someone to dislike the new movie. I haven’t seen here an offensive comment from someone who doesn’t like the new movie idea/visuals.
And, of course, Happy Christmas to you all (to rebootists, too :-) :-)), and best wishes for the year 2009.

102. Brett Campbell - December 23, 2008

100 – “I mean, really? Pathetic for an opinion? PATHETIC? We’re all typing messages on a … Star Trek message forum! Who are we to be calling each other pathetic? We should be celebrating Star Trek’s very existence instead of commencing with internal bickering!”

Good points. Civil debate is one thing, but name-calling and antagonizing and character assassination are a far cry from it. Let’s agree to disagree civilly, please, folks.

103. Closettrekker - December 23, 2008

#100—No one should be called ‘pathetic’ for having an opinion and expressing it in a forum such as this one. However, should posters be allowed to make unjustified accusatory declarations without expecting to be called on it?

I don’t think so.

There are plenty of long term fans here who do not feel that Mr. Abrams has been disrespectful to us, or that he has insulted anyone by directing the promotion of this film towards a potential audience which is generally absent from the theater when it comes to a Star Trek movie. With that said, most of us would not go so far as to resort to name-calling. It is a tiny minority which does that—-on either side of the issue.

104. Closettrekker - December 23, 2008

#101—” I haven’t seen here an offensive comment from someone who doesn’t like the new movie idea/visuals.”

Lmao!

Then you don’t spend much time here (which is okay, too).

:)

105. Brett Campbell - December 23, 2008

103 – “With that said, most of us would not go so far as to resort to name-calling. It is a tiny minority which does that—-on either side of the issue.”

That, I thankfully believe is true — that it is a minority of posters here who do such things. I think this all the more reason for the majority of us to continue to debate and even to disagree in an exemplary, respectful manner. It’s one of the cornerstones of a truly democratic society.

106. Deebo Shanks - December 23, 2008

#100–
I must agree wholeheartedly with you. I think most people would consider us all pathetic for posting on Trek boards. There’s no need to fight! Your post was a bit rude and straight forward, but nothing I wouldn’t expect from our revered “admiral mccoy” ;-) And Anthony should have totally rebuked cugel (if he didn’t–I didn’t read through every post):-D

107. Admiral Waugh - December 23, 2008

I love it. A few years from now the answer to a Trek trivia question is going to be: “There are FOUR Spocks!!!” ( in the second version of the trailer ;) )

108. De Baisch - December 23, 2008

The local news radio station (I live near Washington DC) had a piece on the film a couple of months ago. When I heard the tease before the commercial break, I was excited that the local mainstream media would be talking about it. What came after those commercials shocked the hell out of me.

The only “news” part of the piece was the announcer mentioning the film was coming next year. He essentially ranted for two minutes about why anyone would care about this film by trotting out every insult every Trek fan knows by heart from insinuating Trekkies all live in their mothers’ basements to calling it a tired concept that should have died in the 1960s.

The piece wasn’t repeated during the afternoon drive (I like to think that my angry missive to the station helped) but the damage was already done. Is this attitude indicative of the mainstream media’s opinion of Star Trek in general? I hope not, but it was indicative of the uphill climb Trek has to make in the court of public opinion. I truly hope this film does well, if only for Star Trek to shake the stigma of being the province of nerds and the socially inept.

109. Jorg Sacul - December 23, 2008

“Star Trek is NOT made of peas!”

That is true. However, the concepts of a United Earth and the 5 founding worlds of the Federation are all based on peas!

Peas-ful cooperation, peas-ful exploration, etc…

Laugh a little people, some days it’s all we’ve got. And regarding “can’t wait for May”… think about it. You could watch a different episode of some incarnation of Star Trek and STILL not see them all by the premier.

110. Woulfe - December 23, 2008

I’m still calling it….
THERE WILL BE A HUGE AD FOR THE FILM DURING THE SUPER BOWL
You want to reach Joe Six-Pack, that’s where you do it, PERIOD.

As for if Trek can undergo a huge change like this and still be Trek.
Well, I hope it can, if it can’t it means that Trek isn’t relevant anymore.
That would be sad if you ask me, it would mean that Trek was a fluke.

Conviction happened with TMP, it should happen with the new film too.

111. S. John Ross - December 23, 2008

#110: A Super-Bowl ad would definitely make sense, I agree. I disagree, though, with:

“… if it can’t it means that Trek isn’t relevant anymore.”

Because it depends too much on the efforts of the specific filmmakers to tell us anything about Trek itself. Nothing is _automatically_ relevant; the wrong people could always botch the job. Until the film is out, nobody knows.

112. Dyson Sphere - December 23, 2008

I hope tthe flash freezing does not mean the promotional machine at Paramount stops pumping out movie related info. For the new year, let’s catch the viral marketing blitz, get a red shirt with a jumbo soda at Burger King, and pick up cool replica phasers at Toys-R-Us or in Cracker Jack.

Let’s keep this buzz going.

113. Commodore Redshirt - December 23, 2008

Well I’m an old school fan. I am one of the old Trekkies who remembers the show from it’s original run.
For the record, I do not feel “insulted” by JJ or anyone involved with the current Trek project. I feel like they have been respectful to the whole Trek universe. (…And that is more than I can say for ANY post-TNG series!)

Oh, and “Redshirt”… That was MY name here for quite a while.
I added the “Commodore” to my name to avoid confusion with another long-time poster “Red Shirt” (his name two words, mine one).
Please find another name to use when posting here. I’d hate for your fine posts to be confused with my rants…
;-)

114. Peter N - December 23, 2008

I wish I were in that alternate timeline where JJ told the folks at Paramount that it’s Christmas or bust for his Star Trek. Maybe Prime Spock has one more time travel left in him?

Happy Holidays!

115. Fred - December 23, 2008

Whenever I read something about movie that gets me too nervous, I remember this quote from an October WIRED interview with the writers and it reassures me.

Orci: It’s about how the original crew came together, which was never covered in its entirety by either the show or any of the movies. No one has ever told the story of how the Enterprise set sail.

Kurtzman: There are details in canon where the characters refer to their past but there are wide areas of interpretations and sort of blank spots where you go, “Wait, I understand this, but how did they get from here to there before they got to that point?” And that’s where you have some room.

Wired.com: While staying consistent…

Kurtzman: You have to remain consistent. You cannot break one rule of anything’s that’s gone before.

116. Marian Ciobanu - December 23, 2008

- HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!….

117. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

The Trekkies of old think TMP was a good movie. Ignore them.

118. T.J. Trek - December 23, 2008

i just recently watched that episode about kodos the Executionoir with all that shakespear and junk. So the question I have is… does the movie acknowledge that Kirk spent quite a bit of time off earth between age 10 and age 15? It may not matter if that portion of Kirks life is not even remotly important, but still a question none the less

and about all thie gripe about change. Can it, shut it, and shove it. I think this movie is going to be great. Fantabilously fantastic.

and thats all I got to say

119. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

I wonder if we’ll hear about Kirk’s brother on that one planet with the flying pancakes?

120. Closettrekker - December 23, 2008

#117—“The Trekkies of old think TMP was a good movie. Ignore them.”

I think TMP is a great film.

I also think that Abrams Trek is likely to be fantastic in its own right.

There are plenty of us “Trekkies of old” who are very enthusiastic about this movie, and more than willing to embrace new storytelling styles and asthetic change.

What is this need to generalize and lump people into specific groups?

121. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

TMP is all right. But it’s so bland. It made Trek boring, when it should be exciting and interesting. There are fans that like the old stuff, and fans who want to see new stuff. Why is that so hard to figure out?

122. Closettrekker - December 23, 2008

#121—-Because some of us (a significant number in fact, according to the polls) like the old stuff *and* want to see new stuff. Those feelings are not mutually exclusive.

As a child, I thought TMP was boring. As an adult, I like it alot.

123. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

Why did you basically repeat what I just said?

124. John from Cincinnati - December 23, 2008

I am a TOS purist but I am going to give this movie a chance and go see it.

125. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

I’m a pretty big fan of all Trek, and I think the movie will be great.

126. sean - December 23, 2008

#123

Because that wasn’t what you said. You said “There are fans that like the old stuff, and fans who want to see new stuff”. Closettrekker pointed out that there’s actually a group in the middle that like both. Count me among them.

127. Enterprise - December 23, 2008

Well, yeah, but the more extreme groups are the ones that like some particular kind of Trek and hate everything else.

128. sean - December 23, 2008

#126

Though vocal, I think they are in the minority.

129. commander K, - December 23, 2008

“I’m a Doctor, not an escalaltor!”

Had to say that for no reason.

130. Will H. - December 23, 2008

I still will remain skepticle of this movie till I see it, but it does seem clear to me that JJ showed as little real respect to us Trekkies as possible to still sell this movie. He talks a lot, but it all seems so fake, even the people that have reviewed it seem…idk, like they’re bs’ing us. I still think it’ll make a good modern day sifi movie, but I have my doubts more and more that it’ll be a good Star Trek movie. I pray that we get back to real star trek sometime soon, even with all of its problems. And I just noticed something about the trailer that’s probably been noticed before, but at first the car has its top up, and in the next scene down, you’d think they’d catch something that obvious.

131. Captain Hackett - December 23, 2008

Happy Holidays, JJ, Bob and the rest of crew!

132. Jeff Hamrick - December 23, 2008

Did anyone notice that when the car first pulls out, it’s white top is up; then, in the following long shot, it is down?

133. sean - December 23, 2008

#130

There’s also no hoverbike cop behind him in the first scene. It’s obviously a longer scene that’s been edited for the trailer, not a mistake.

134. cugel the clever - December 23, 2008

59. captain_neill – December 23, 2008

“This X Factor generation is too dumbed down for my liking and I will scream if Star Trek is dumbed down with this movie. I love Star Trek so much and I don’t want it to be trashed when coming back to the mainstream.”

You pathetic little man. You almost had me regretting my harsh words for you, and then you plop a disgusting turd like this statement, calling the young generation “dumbed down”.

Go back to your Mom’s basement and pop “Spock’s Brain” into your VCR.

135. cugel the clever - December 23, 2008

89. Blowback – December 23, 2008

Exactly right. It’s not the constructive criticism that’s anoying to those of us who are optimistic about the new film. It’s the repetitive, boring, ignorant whining, hatred directed to JJ et al, and total inflexibility that’s ridiculous. If they hate the new film so much, then they should shut up and tune out of ST because the new film and its successors IS the new ST, like it or not.

136. cugel the clever - December 23, 2008

100 Admiral (I mean Ensigh) McCoy
“We should be celebrating Star Trek’s very existence instead of commencing with internal bickering!”

Try taking a little of your own advice and CELEBRATE the fact that we have a capable bunch of film makers who are breathing life into an almost dead franchise.

137. Greg2600 - December 23, 2008

After the string of complete gut wrenching garbage I’ve had to endure from Hollywood remakes, I don’t think this one will be so bad, even at the worst. It’s still kind of a sequel/prequel. I’ve only seen two sequel/prequels that were so bad I was left in tears……Batman and Robin, and Highlander: The Source.

138. AMOK TIME - December 23, 2008

Where’s the holiday spirit folks…?

I say we wish the man good luc kand god speed with this film…

To boldy go where no man has gone before!!

Merry Christmas!!

Oh, and set course for second star to the right…
…and straight on till morning :-)

139. Gigastazio - December 23, 2008

Once May has come and gone, and this film is out of the theaters and making its way to Blu-Ray and On Demand, two things will be true:

– Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman will be several million dollars richer, and well into planning the next Trek film.

– The stubborn, bile-filled naysayers who fear change and contribute nothing will still be stubborn, bile-filled naysayers who fear change and contribute nothing.

140. James Tiberius "my cabin in the Nexus hasn't depreciated" Kirk - December 23, 2008

Hearing this is not shocking. Trekkies have long been the butt of jokes like this forever, and we all know it.

All you have to do is read some of the past forums on this very site, with all of the obsessive nitpicking, personal attacks on the people making the new film, the cast and the designer of the new E, rants about how JJ Abrams dropped out of a helicopter in the dark of night and crapped on the childhood of a few posters, and even posts who seem to practice a religion called Star Trek with shrines erected to pay homage to James T. Kirk. How can comments that perpetuate Trekkie stereotypes be that shocking? All one needs to do is read some of the discourse here.

We are all entitled to our opinions and more than free to post them right here. The problem is that so many of us love Trek so much that we’ll go out of our way to say and do the very things that make us the caricatures that the main stream loves to laugh at, myself included.

“The bridge is wrong!”

“I’ve seen a 2 minute trailer and boy, this movie ruined Star Trek”

“Quick edits and huge VFX budget, boy, have they dumbed-down Trek”

“I hate JJ because he didn’t mention Number One (or any other characters from the pilot)”

“The new transport effect sucks”

The list goes on…

I don’t blame morning DJs for making fun of Trekkies.

BTW – sounds like you heard a morning show bit, those really don’t make it into PM drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

108. De Baisch – December 23, 2008
The local news radio station (I live near Washington DC) had a piece on the film a couple of months ago. When I heard the tease before the commercial break, I was excited that the local mainstream media would be talking about it. What came after those commercials shocked the hell out of me.

The only “news” part of the piece was the announcer mentioning the film was coming next year. He essentially ranted for two minutes about why anyone would care about this film by trotting out every insult every Trek fan knows by heart from insinuating Trekkies all live in their mothers’ basements to calling it a tired concept that should have died in the 1960s.

The piece wasn’t repeated during the afternoon drive (I like to think that my angry missive to the station helped) but the damage was already done. Is this attitude indicative of the mainstream media’s opinion of Star Trek in general? I hope not, but it was indicative of the uphill climb Trek has to make in the court of public opinion. I truly hope this film does well, if only for Star Trek to shake the stigma of being the province of nerds and the socially inept.

141. Anthony Pascale - December 23, 2008

Hey people, lets stop with the labeling and name calling….lets shoot for a christmas miracle and get all the camps, rebootists, canonistas, moderates, etc…to all come together and give thanks that you all have something to talk about coming in 2009

142. Commodore Redshirt - December 24, 2008

Thanks, Anthony. I’m VERY thankful that the new year brings new Trek!…
and I am very thankful to you for your hard work in bringing us this site…

143. S. John Ross - December 24, 2008

I’m just baffled that people keep talking about “hate” here. I see no hate; nobody’s saying hate except to say that other people are saying hate (and the other people, unless I’m missing it, are totally not saying hate). It’s like people are determined to divide us into sides that don’t even exist. And I … I strongly dislike that :)

144. Dr. Image - December 24, 2008

I’ve been away skiing and I’m nice and relaxed.
Not much has changed around here, I see.

I always watch TMP around Christmas. It’s become a tradition for no particular reason.
Everyone should do so, then we can resume the screaming match on Fri.

145. Brett Campbell - December 24, 2008

141- Anthony and all at trekmovie.com:

Thank you for providing us with this great website with continual new information about all things connected with “Star Trek” and beyond.

We all look forward to more of your great work and efforts in the new year — the year of rebirth for “Star Trek.”

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you all and to all the folks who read the fine articles on this site!

146. sean - December 24, 2008

Oh, we disagree but ultimately I think we all have a deep and abiding nerd-love for each other! Merry Christmas my fellow obsessives! :)

147. Xai - December 24, 2008

58. McCoy – December 23, 2008
Ugghh.

“So tired of cugel the clever and Xai trying to rein in and demonize anyone who does not fall in line with their way of thinking. I’m thinking they only cruise the threads to find people who disagree with them so they have something to say.”

So you caught me in my demonic plan.

I’ve no problem with anyone… even you… speaking their mind. but show me any thread recently about a JJ interview that hasn’t had fellow fans repeat over and over how JJ “hates the fans” or “disrespects the fans” or “He will ruin it” (with no evidence)
He hasn’t and in my opinion it’s getting old. Sorry if it disagrees with your thought process. Spew away…

And yes, merry Christmas to you.

148. Gary Seven of Nine - December 24, 2008

And merry Christmas to you, Xai. Add me to your list of the tired.

‘…JJ “hates the fans” or “disrespects the fans” or “He will ruin it”…’

It seems like that mentality is so common here, and it goes further when people take it personally, and then fire back as if JJ, Orci and Co. were personally dropping styrofoam rocks on the TOS Video Collections (on Beta) of these self-anointed “purists”.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

147. Xai – December 24, 2008

58. McCoy – December 23, 2008
Ugghh.

“So tired of cugel the clever and Xai trying to rein in and demonize anyone who does not fall in line with their way of thinking. I’m thinking they only cruise the threads to find people who disagree with them so they have something to say.”

So you caught me in my demonic plan.

I’ve no problem with anyone… even you… speaking their mind. but show me any thread recently about a JJ interview that hasn’t had fellow fans repeat over and over how JJ “hates the fans” or “disrespects the fans” or “He will ruin it” (with no evidence)
He hasn’t and in my opinion it’s getting old. Sorry if it disagrees with your thought process. Spew away…

And yes, merry Christmas to you.

149. Xai - December 24, 2008

148 Gary

thanks….

I hear sleigh bells.

Merry Christmas and God bless your journeys.

150. colonyearth - December 25, 2008

Quit trashing this film before it comes out people. Bob has explained (as I thought) that this will create a new timeline..which, when u think about it, respects Trek more than a clean reboot while allowing them to give it a fresh beginning. This way, it says that all we’ve seen is real and fully in existance in another timeline which can and will continue along with the new one. A complete reboot would simply say that all that came before was gone and the new is here now. Alternate timeline says they’re both real, they both exist and are both valid..and it’s the original timeline Spock who is there at the launch of the new one giving it a legit sendoff. Now stop ur bitchin’ and look for the spirit of Trek to continue in a new and fresh way. I, for one, am very proud of Bob, Alex and JJ, et al, to their energy, passion (something Trek has been missing for over 15 years now), and vision while keeping a deep and abiding respest for Trek and it’s characters. Give them a chance, folks. They care and that’s more than Trek has had behind it in a very long time.

151. Databrain - December 26, 2008

To the site moderator, anthony.

How about a little more even handedness when it comes to doling out punishment regarding name calling? I have seen several instances of pro-abrams people calling pro-geek-trekkies all sorts of slanderous things, only to get a calm, cool ‘come on guys, let’s keep it…’ While I have seen several people with valid criticisms regarding certain prospects of the new film shot down by you almost immediately. I don’t think it is fair treatment dude. Seriously.

I am not naming names, but I hope you come up with a better suited technique for dealing with bickering than to isolate one group and further ostracize these people because they aren’t on the JJ band wagon. I must agree with another individuals observation that, at that point, it’s becoming a little fascist. I have read comments by people here telling us to shut it, bugger off and more violently directed ones. Yet the people you seem to be warning seem no less civilized. Just be fair is all we are asking dude. Thanks.

152. Databrain - December 26, 2008

As long as I continue to use this site I plan to voice my criticisms of what is thus far known as articulately as possible. To the site moderator, if you don’t like this ban me right this second. Because not once have I personally insulted someone here without first being personally insulted myself.

I do not speak in terms of peoples personal lives, because I do not know them. I keep my conversation limited to the known facts, and I happen to use the word ‘if’ a lot in my formulations. If this is not suitable to this site for some unknown reason, let us know you intend to play fascist dictator so we can go back to the startrek.com message forums where we are treated with respect instead of dictated to by pro-jj fans who apparently HATE those who were fans of the ‘geek era trek’ shows.

Sorry, but those ‘geek era’ shows defined trek for several generations, and they continue to define it. The nucleus of it is ethical, metaphysical, human, but more evolved than todays humanity. All many of us are, in essence stating is that IF what we are intuiting comes to pass then this will not really be remembered as Star Trek, in the roddenberry visionary terms, it will be remembered, barely, as another hollywood blockbuster action film gone sci fi, quasi revisionist thing ala planet of the apes 2001.

I don’t know how big or FAT that ‘if’ is, but I do think we are entitled to voice it. I never once called someone a slanderous name. I have been called several. Not once have I seen you warn one of these people you might ban them if they did not desist. I even asked you not to, as I believe in freedom of expression in all its forms and am truly not bothered by their slander. But I am bothered by people getting ‘warnings’ who do not deserve them. I hope you become more fair in the near future. Otherwise many of us will probably just chat elsewhere.

Is that what you want? Just a pro-jj lot lighting up your board without any dissenting voices? Is this what it is coming down to? I hope not, because up till this point you’ve seemed lenient with many of us. Don’t throw that leniency out the window due to impatience. After all we’ve put up with alot of blatantly hateful slander too, whether you want to see it or not.

153. Closettrekker - December 26, 2008

sigh…

154. Xai - December 26, 2008

#151, 152 Databrain

Your message may be better served if you emailed it to Anthony rather than post it here in a thread that is dying. Look above the poll area to the right for an email link or post your comments to the feedback area.

155. Xai - December 26, 2008

Happy Holiday Closet.
Hope your business is thriving.

156. Closettrekker - December 26, 2008

#155—Hanging in there!

Happy Holidays to you too!

157. cellojammer - December 26, 2008

I enjoyed Trek during its “geek era” (is it over? I must have missed that announcement…), and I’m also well aware of the changes that are afoot with the current production.

However, I don’t feel the urge to bug out at every litle tidbit and quote, and draw conclusions as to the quality of the upcoming movie. It seems that there is a vocal contingent of alarmists who have greater deductive powers than myself. They “know” that the new film is a dumbed down action flick with no substance or connection to “their” Trek. They “know” it’s going to suck.,

Me? I don’t know these things. Call me what you will, but I’ll see the movie before making such statements with any confidence. Until then, I prefer an optimistic outlook over months of teeth-gnashing. It’s easier on the dental work.

158. Xai - December 26, 2008

and the belly

159. Xai - December 26, 2008

#156 Closet

My boss is moving back south and he will be buying a house and furniture. Although he is moving to “the west Texas town of E lPaso”. I gave him your website. He was impressed and hopefully will give you an order.

160. Closettrekker - December 26, 2008

#159—Thanks. I look forward to it. I have several clients in that area, but am always looking for more!

161. Dan - December 26, 2008

I hope this film isn’t mindless superficial fluff! The trailer gives me that impression.

162. Xai - December 26, 2008

tough call on a 2 minute trailer..

163. Sam Belil - December 27, 2008

WOW — I agree with Anthony, we’re all grown-ups here, please NO NEED for name calling, ESPECIALLY for this time of year — when there is real suffering that is going in this crazy world of ours, and everyday I pray that the suffering will go away. Having said that I believe that it is a good thing that we can “agree to disagree”, and yes be passionate about our beliefs. But lets take a few steps back.

For those of you who have seen my posts over the past year and a half, you will know that I am as “old school” as they come, if not MORE. I have stated many times before it’s not so much about canon, but so much more about a continuity that did in fact exist in the ST universe as we knew it. I have repeatedly stated multiple concerns of mine regarding this movie (new design, bridge, Pike’s original crew, Gary Mitchell, Finney, etc. etc.).

You know what I have three magic words for all us “GET, OVER and IT”!!!!!
This is JUST A MOVIE for G-d’s sake (I am very passionate about Star Trek), again JUST A MOVIE. Lets debate, lets argue — but lets not get personal with each other. Kirk and crew were one of the BIGGEST PARTS of my young life, you know what — they STILL ARE, but they are just fictional characters (yes who we do LOVE). Whatever changes are clearly coming (and I’m NOT CRAZY about them), lets not judge anything until we see the final product on May 9th. Lets root for this film to somehow be the VERY BEST ST MOVIE/EPISODE EVER!!!! Because of that happens, WE ALL WIN!!!!

Happy Holidays, Happy, Healthy and SAFE New Year to All!

164. Sadie the Elder - December 27, 2008

Goodness, such spewing is happening here. I’ve been a fan of Star Trek since the 60s–you know, the days when we were insulted because ignorant people referred to us as “Trekkies.” We were Trekkers back then, thank you very much. I must admit someone who calls his- or herself a Trekkie and a purist in the same sentence makes me suspicious; but I’m paranoid that way. And time does march on.

I have a lot of hope about this movie and much of it is based on Nimoy’s comments in various interviews. There will be changes, some of which I’ll like and some of which I won’t — but the movie isn’t being made for me. It’s being made for *US*, all of us, purist, part-timer, barely-knows-what-science-fiction-is-types, and so forth.

One thing has me really jazzed about the movie: In the latest issue of Star Trek Magazine, Nimoy says that toward the end of a screening of the movie his wife turned to him and said she wished the movie would never end. Now, THAT’s the kind of movie I’m looking forward to.

Happy [insert winter holiday of choice here] to all,

Cheers,
Sadie the Elder

PS: Someone mentioned “Spock’s Brain” in an earlier post. I think from now on whenever I feel concerned about this or that in the movie I’ll just remember it could always be a whole lot worse.

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