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	<title>Comments on: Pine and Quinto Talk About Their New Kirk and Spock</title>
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		<title>By: The Angry Klingon</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Angry Klingon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I went and saw Watchmen last night at the Arclight here in LA and took a lot of shots of the new Enterprise model built by Steve Dymzo (founder of Master Replicas and now QMX) AND got to see the trailer on the BIG screen.
I HATE to say it but the new Enterprise seems to have grown on me. I HATED it when I fist saw it and was very vocal, in part due to the bad promo pic. I shot pics from different angles and found myself admiring the design from MOST angles. 
I will ALWAYS love the original more and certainly would have upgraded her differently but it has its own charm.
The trailer: Now here is the part that worried me. Im sitting in the theater with my buddy Max who was one of the principle prop makers on TREK for many many years. We&#039;re both huge Trek fans (obviously) and looking forward to seeing the trailer. We are also in a theater full of folks, who by their movie choice, would seem inclined to being excited about this movie.
 The Terminator Salvation trailer received applause and a few &#039;Hell Yeahs&quot;. 
The only sound after the Trek trailer was the sound of a few girls scattered throughout the audience guffawing or giggling. No one clapped. No one said &#039;cool&#039;. Nothing.
I PERSONALLY thought the trailer looked spectacular on the big screen and for the first time Im really starting to be hopeful about this movie (bought my tickets for the premiere). What concerns me is that JJ has aimed this at the non fans and even the response from a crowd that you would THINK would be inclined toward this film the response the trailer garnered was crickets and giggling. Im curious to hear from others here about what responses the trailer garnered when they saw it in theaters,
Ironically, from the trailer response, I feel it will STILL be up to the established fan base to make or break this movie as it didnt seem to garner any interest in those not already interested.
Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I went and saw Watchmen last night at the Arclight here in LA and took a lot of shots of the new Enterprise model built by Steve Dymzo (founder of Master Replicas and now QMX) AND got to see the trailer on the BIG screen.<br />
I HATE to say it but the new Enterprise seems to have grown on me. I HATED it when I fist saw it and was very vocal, in part due to the bad promo pic. I shot pics from different angles and found myself admiring the design from MOST angles.<br />
I will ALWAYS love the original more and certainly would have upgraded her differently but it has its own charm.<br />
The trailer: Now here is the part that worried me. Im sitting in the theater with my buddy Max who was one of the principle prop makers on TREK for many many years. We&#8217;re both huge Trek fans (obviously) and looking forward to seeing the trailer. We are also in a theater full of folks, who by their movie choice, would seem inclined to being excited about this movie.<br />
 The Terminator Salvation trailer received applause and a few &#8216;Hell Yeahs&#8221;.<br />
The only sound after the Trek trailer was the sound of a few girls scattered throughout the audience guffawing or giggling. No one clapped. No one said &#8216;cool&#8217;. Nothing.<br />
I PERSONALLY thought the trailer looked spectacular on the big screen and for the first time Im really starting to be hopeful about this movie (bought my tickets for the premiere). What concerns me is that JJ has aimed this at the non fans and even the response from a crowd that you would THINK would be inclined toward this film the response the trailer garnered was crickets and giggling. Im curious to hear from others here about what responses the trailer garnered when they saw it in theaters,<br />
Ironically, from the trailer response, I feel it will STILL be up to the established fan base to make or break this movie as it didnt seem to garner any interest in those not already interested.<br />
Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Hertel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Hertel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply put...

Quinto is too good for this movie.

With how rabidly obsessive Trek fans are, this is going to type-cast him for the rest of his life (esp. if he agrees to sequels which I pray to the heavens he won&#039;t) and effectively prematurely end a very promising career.

Damn you, Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply put&#8230;</p>
<p>Quinto is too good for this movie.</p>
<p>With how rabidly obsessive Trek fans are, this is going to type-cast him for the rest of his life (esp. if he agrees to sequels which I pray to the heavens he won&#8217;t) and effectively prematurely end a very promising career.</p>
<p>Damn you, Star Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: McCoy's Gall Bladder</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCoy's Gall Bladder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still looking forward to Shatner&#039;s Shakespeare musicals.

&quot;No tears for Ceasar!&quot;

Hail Shat!

Brett, you made me laugh. 

hopefully, I make others laugh or at the very least, THINK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still looking forward to Shatner&#8217;s Shakespeare musicals.</p>
<p>&#8220;No tears for Ceasar!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hail Shat!</p>
<p>Brett, you made me laugh. </p>
<p>hopefully, I make others laugh or at the very least, THINK</p>
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		<title>By: Canon Schmanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canon Schmanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shatner WAS Kirk. Now Chris Pine is Kirk. He has every right to play it his way. He&#039;s dead-on when he says you don&#039;t want to go into impersonation. That would be ludicrous.

Quinto has the toughest role here. Because he&#039;s playing alongside the original Spock, he HAS to develop the same mannerisms, the same physical bearing. Nimoy had true presence as Spock, much of which was supplied by that awesome voice. That&#039;s the one thing Quinto will lack, and I&#039;ll miss that, though I won&#039;t let it spoil his performance for me.

I&#039;m really looking forward to this movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner WAS Kirk. Now Chris Pine is Kirk. He has every right to play it his way. He&#8217;s dead-on when he says you don&#8217;t want to go into impersonation. That would be ludicrous.</p>
<p>Quinto has the toughest role here. Because he&#8217;s playing alongside the original Spock, he HAS to develop the same mannerisms, the same physical bearing. Nimoy had true presence as Spock, much of which was supplied by that awesome voice. That&#8217;s the one thing Quinto will lack, and I&#8217;ll miss that, though I won&#8217;t let it spoil his performance for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really looking forward to this movie.</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me Pine is not playingthe Kirk we all grew up with, simply because this film is set in an alternate timeline.

From the episodes in Kirk&#039;s younger day I never pictured him a drunk who gropes women. He was a serious student. But since he is not playing our Kirk I can accept it for the film. Enterprise being built in Iowa irritates as it has been confirmed it was San Francisco yards but suince this is an alternate timeline it can be accepted.

Since it is an alternate timeline I have chosen not to accept this movie as canon but this does not mean I will hate the film. I have decided to treat it a a separate entity from the rest, Like how we treat Batman Begins and The Dark Knight separately from the previous four bat films. I still love Tim Burton&#039;s two but Nolan&#039;s take is great in a different way. Perhaps this is how to view this new Trek movie.

Its a given that JJ Abrams has changed things that the hard core fans will hate. I still hate the new bridge and the redesigned Enterprise is not looking right for me. I will be seeing the movie.

I am excited for the new movie. All I am saying is there are going to be some changes that will take longer to get use to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me Pine is not playingthe Kirk we all grew up with, simply because this film is set in an alternate timeline.</p>
<p>From the episodes in Kirk&#8217;s younger day I never pictured him a drunk who gropes women. He was a serious student. But since he is not playing our Kirk I can accept it for the film. Enterprise being built in Iowa irritates as it has been confirmed it was San Francisco yards but suince this is an alternate timeline it can be accepted.</p>
<p>Since it is an alternate timeline I have chosen not to accept this movie as canon but this does not mean I will hate the film. I have decided to treat it a a separate entity from the rest, Like how we treat Batman Begins and The Dark Knight separately from the previous four bat films. I still love Tim Burton&#8217;s two but Nolan&#8217;s take is great in a different way. Perhaps this is how to view this new Trek movie.</p>
<p>Its a given that JJ Abrams has changed things that the hard core fans will hate. I still hate the new bridge and the redesigned Enterprise is not looking right for me. I will be seeing the movie.</p>
<p>I am excited for the new movie. All I am saying is there are going to be some changes that will take longer to get use to.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>139 - Congratulations!  That is both the biggest misinterpretation and oversimplification of Kirk&#039;s character that I have ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>139 &#8211; Congratulations!  That is both the biggest misinterpretation and oversimplification of Kirk&#8217;s character that I have ever read.</p>
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		<title>By: McCoy's Gall Bladder</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCoy's Gall Bladder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait just a Vulcan second

Cary grant did not &quot;grow&quot; in NxNW

Movie characters &quot;had&quot; to get married in the pre-Star Wars days. 

Cary Grant was still the same self centered, over privileged, &quot;i&#039;m always right&quot; muthatrucker he was when he started. He abused his mother, he abused his secretary, and he abused the blonde up to the end. The fact that he rescues her doesn&#039;t mean that he&#039;s had any kind of change of heart. He rescues her so he can boff her at the end of the movie. If the blonde had been  a man, he would have just stolen the microfilm back and let the poor feller fall off the cliff. 

The only time I can remember Cary Grant &quot;growing&quot; as a character was in Father Goose when he quits being an alcoholic and marries the teacher and becomes foster father to the gaggle of girls. 

Cary Grant is the same character from Arsenic and Old Lace to Charade to To Catch A Thief to Walk, Don&#039;t Run. (his last movie). He always plays himself, self important, know it all, better than you. And you know what? We liked it!

Kirk had his doubts in TOS but it was always during the &quot;moral of the story&quot; part at the end of the episode. Was it really so bad to kill Apollo? Was it really so bad to destroy Baal? Was it really so bad to kill so and so. But during the episode, he has no doubts. The ship is in danger, the crew is in danger, my secret gay lover Spock left his katra in Dr McCoy and I have to steal my ship to go save him.


Kirk doesnt bullshat around. He knows what he has to do and he does it. Later, when the drama is over, he sits back and thinks it over. 

Kirk shoots FIRST and asks questions later. (if at all) Kirk was Gene&#039;s alter ego after all.

Kirk for Emperor! Hail Kirk! Hail Shat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait just a Vulcan second</p>
<p>Cary grant did not &#8220;grow&#8221; in NxNW</p>
<p>Movie characters &#8220;had&#8221; to get married in the pre-Star Wars days. </p>
<p>Cary Grant was still the same self centered, over privileged, &#8220;i&#8217;m always right&#8221; muthatrucker he was when he started. He abused his mother, he abused his secretary, and he abused the blonde up to the end. The fact that he rescues her doesn&#8217;t mean that he&#8217;s had any kind of change of heart. He rescues her so he can boff her at the end of the movie. If the blonde had been  a man, he would have just stolen the microfilm back and let the poor feller fall off the cliff. </p>
<p>The only time I can remember Cary Grant &#8220;growing&#8221; as a character was in Father Goose when he quits being an alcoholic and marries the teacher and becomes foster father to the gaggle of girls. </p>
<p>Cary Grant is the same character from Arsenic and Old Lace to Charade to To Catch A Thief to Walk, Don&#8217;t Run. (his last movie). He always plays himself, self important, know it all, better than you. And you know what? We liked it!</p>
<p>Kirk had his doubts in TOS but it was always during the &#8220;moral of the story&#8221; part at the end of the episode. Was it really so bad to kill Apollo? Was it really so bad to destroy Baal? Was it really so bad to kill so and so. But during the episode, he has no doubts. The ship is in danger, the crew is in danger, my secret gay lover Spock left his katra in Dr McCoy and I have to steal my ship to go save him.</p>
<p>Kirk doesnt bullshat around. He knows what he has to do and he does it. Later, when the drama is over, he sits back and thinks it over. </p>
<p>Kirk shoots FIRST and asks questions later. (if at all) Kirk was Gene&#8217;s alter ego after all.</p>
<p>Kirk for Emperor! Hail Kirk! Hail Shat!</p>
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		<title>By: Deebo Shanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deebo Shanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a canon freak.
I can accept this alternate reality movie.
I am excited, though not as excited as I could be.
I will see the new movie.
I will miss the original 1701 even if I love this film.
Thank you.


Love,
Deebo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a canon freak.<br />
I can accept this alternate reality movie.<br />
I am excited, though not as excited as I could be.<br />
I will see the new movie.<br />
I will miss the original 1701 even if I love this film.<br />
Thank you.</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Deebo</p>
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		<title>By: Xai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>136 Antarian

You&#039;ve not read up on the movie much I assume? Or the actors.
Many of those that have seen Pine&#039;s Kirk in the sneek peeks JJ had nothing but praise for his portrayal. And the black uniform has an explaination...did you miss that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>136 Antarian</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve not read up on the movie much I assume? Or the actors.<br />
Many of those that have seen Pine&#8217;s Kirk in the sneek peeks JJ had nothing but praise for his portrayal. And the black uniform has an explaination&#8230;did you miss that?</p>
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		<title>By: Antarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like from the actor&#039;s descriptions that Chris is an arrogant pr*ck who doesn&#039;t give a rats about ST-TOS and has barely studied the character, and Zach is a huge fan who has thrown his all into the role.  Sounds like I&#039;ll love Spock and hate Kirk.

And what&#039;s with Kirk lounging around in his black sweats?  If the girls have to throw on go-go boots and short skirts, he should have to stay in his uncomfortable boots, gold shirt and stretch-o pants.  Something tells me this movie will NOT be popular with the women-folk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like from the actor&#8217;s descriptions that Chris is an arrogant pr*ck who doesn&#8217;t give a rats about ST-TOS and has barely studied the character, and Zach is a huge fan who has thrown his all into the role.  Sounds like I&#8217;ll love Spock and hate Kirk.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with Kirk lounging around in his black sweats?  If the girls have to throw on go-go boots and short skirts, he should have to stay in his uncomfortable boots, gold shirt and stretch-o pants.  Something tells me this movie will NOT be popular with the women-folk.</p>
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