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IDW Releases 5-page Preview of ‘Countdown’ Star Trek Movie Prequel Comic January 10, 2009

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IDW has just released a five-page preview of the first issue of "Star Trek Countdown." the official comic prequel for the new Star Trek movie, which is coming out this month week. Check it out below 
 

 

COUNTDOWN PREVIEW

The four issue ‘Star Trek Countdown’ comics series will show the progression from the Next Generation era to the new Star Trek movie. The series is ‘presented’ by Star Trek director JJ Abrams with a story by Star Trek co-writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. The series will primarily deal with (elder) Spock and the film’s villain Nero, including interactions with other characters from the TNG era. The series is written by Tim Jones and Mike Johnson with art by David Messina.

Cover and 5 page preview (click to enlarge)
As reported, the comic series starts off after the events of Star Trek Nemesis. The Stardate given is 64333.4, around eight years after Nemesis (Stardate 56893.5). Issue one starts off with Nero and his crew, including his second Ayel, on a mining operation (looking for something called ‘decalithium’) when something seems to go wrong. Also of note is that Nero and his crew have hair and no tattoos (as seen in pre-release images), and although the drilling platform appears the same, Nero’s ship looks different than seen in the Star Trek trailer and press previews.


 

UPDATE: Countdown coming THIS week
Although the comic is listed at some online retailers as coming out on January 28th, IDW tells TrekMovie that Countdown #1 will be released on Wednesday the 14th.

Pre-order Star Trek Countdown now
Issues 1-3 are available now for pre-order at tfaw.com and the Trade Paperback is available at Amazon.

Countdown #1

Countdown #2

Countdown #3

$3.19
(Jan. 14)

$3.19
(February)

$3.19
(March)

Star Trek Countdown
(Trade Paperback – compiling all 4 issues)

$12.23
(Pre-order – April. 29)

 

You can also order a subscription to all four issues at IDW.com ($15.96 or $3.99/issue).

 

Comments

1. FULLL - January 10, 2009

sweet…first?

2. Val Jean - January 10, 2009

wow so here we have it…
nero’s romulans seem so polite…and his ears are intact!

3. jamesmctrek - January 10, 2009

rhat was a little disapointing the style of it reminds me of the game dead space

4. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

I’ve never actually read a comic book before.

This will be my first.

5. Brett Campbell - January 10, 2009

#2 – “[N]ero’s romulans seem so polite.”

If you can read any of the words in these comics’ dialogue bubbles, even after clicking to enlarge, then your eyeballs are definitely a couple of decades younger than mine! :-)

6. Brett Campbell - January 10, 2009

4 – Please be gentle with it. ;-)

7. Devon - January 10, 2009

Nero seems human with that dialog to that guy in the spacesuit.

8. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Get your ass up here?

Color me worried.

9. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#5— Once you enlarge, move your cursor to the bottom right corner of the enlarged picture and ‘click’ on the icon that comes up. It becomes as clear as anything on the site.

10. Devon - January 10, 2009

Not sure it is too big of a deal in hindsight if you think about it. Major Kira from DS9 was no stranger to human slang.

11. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Another odd thing is that the drill is there, bridge looks like the one in the film, but the ship doesn’t resemble the Vorlon/Shadow planetkiller with chains seen in the trailer.

12. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Erm, I didn’t really read your aticle first, Anthony. Sorry.

13. Ruthless Nate - January 10, 2009

That stardate puts it a whole 14 years after Nemesis. Nemesis was 2379, so this would be 2393. I’m intrigued to see what they do with this.

14. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#7—I’d say no more so that the Romulans in “Balance Of Terror”. The dialogue in that episode could have just as easily been on the bridge of a Federation ship between any two human veteran officers.

15. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re: Devon.

Tomalok would never threaten to kick Picard’s ass all the way back to Sector 001.

16. AJ - January 10, 2009

I like it!

Nice artwork, with creative use of “lighting,” if you can say that about a comic. I’m in.

17. I'm dead Jim - January 10, 2009

Consider this a translation from Romulan into English. So see, it’s not that they’re using human slang. Jeez!

18. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Closettrekker

I disagree. The Romulan dialogue in “Balance of Terror” was very formal.

“I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend.” (which is the classic WWII movie line)

- Romulan Commander to Kirk

“Take care, Commander; he has friends. And friends of his kind mean power . . . and power is danger.”
“Danger and I are old companions.”
“We have seen a hundred campaigns together, and still I do not understand you.”
“I think you do. No need to tell you what will happen when we return home with proof of the Earthmen’s weakness – and we will have proof. The Earth commander will follow; he must. And when he attacks, we will destroy him. Our gift to the homeland – another war.”
“If we are the stronger, is this not the signal for war?”
“Must it always be so? How many comrades have we lost in this way?”
“Our portion, Commander . . . is obedience.”
“Bah– obedience, duty, death and more death; soon, even enough for the Praetor’s tastes. Centurion, I find myself wishing for destruction before we can return. (chuckle) Worry not; like you, I am too well-trained in my duty to permit it.”

- Romulan Commander and Centurion

“I will tend to the centurion!”
“No need; the centurion is dead.”
“Why don’t we fire, Commander?”
“No. . . . He is shrewd, this starship commander; he tries to make us waste energy. It is estimated we have only enough. . . . It is time – all debris into disposal tubes! (to Decius) The body of the centurion, as well. (aside) Forgive me, my old friend. But I must use all my experience now to get home.”

- Decius and the Romulan Commander

“How, commander? How?”
“He’s a sorcerer, that one – he reads the thoughts in my brain.(explosion) … Our fuel supply all but gone and he stays out of reach!”
“Then we are beaten! Can it be true? The Praetor’s finest and proudest flagship – beaten!”
“Perhaps . . . we can yet save your Praetor’s pride for him. (to crew) More debris into the tubes! Decius — do we have any of the old-style nuclear warheads aboard?”
“Yes, Commander, but only for self-destruction.”
“Place one in with the debris — proximity fuse!”
- Decius and Romulan Commander

Nowhere is anyone called “big boy”

19. Lord Garth, Formerly Of Izar - January 10, 2009

Do romulans really say “Big Boy” and get your ass up here??? Well Next Genie fans there’s your big gift of a little slice of inclusion in the rebirth of the TOS Trek franchise, a comic written by a ridlin addled mtv emo 14 year old. Enjoy!!!

20. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#15—-If it helps you, just consider the dialogue a rough translation from the Romulan language. Perhaps the Romulans have a similar slang term for that part of their anatomy, and use it in much the same way as humans use the word “ass”.

:)

21. Captain Jack Bauer - January 10, 2009

#13. Nemesis took place on/around stardate 56844.9 (2379), so this stardate is only 8 years after Nemesis, making it 2387.

22. Vincent Gregg - January 10, 2009

SPOILER…. known for months but still giving a warning.

The “drilling” technique described here is used by Nero in the new movie.

This is a very interesting tie in.

23. Brett Campbell - January 10, 2009

#9 – Thank you! That’s MUCH better!

I was getting ready to save up for bifocals, but now I can spend my money on other essentials such as food, gasoline and “Star Trek” movie tickets.

Have a good one, now!

24. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

I wll also conced that it looks like Nero and his crew are civilian contractors, and that their time spent away from the machinations and paranoia of Romulus would probably allow for interactions and a sense of familiarity that would be completely unacceptable in the Romulan military.

Still, whether a loose translation or not, I think they could have gone with a little more creative dialogue.

25. Vorus - January 10, 2009

The dialog does seem a bit strange for a Romulan, but it’s only three pages of it, so it would be illogical to judge it so early. However, what I noticed is that the stardate places it well after Nemesis, which again raises the question of whether it really is B4 instead of Data in the Starfleet uniform on the other issue’s cover.

26. richpit - January 10, 2009

Is there really a calculation to figure “real time” from stardates?? I didn’t think there was. I believe you all, though. There’s certainly stuff I don’t know!

27. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

As it was clearly shown at the end of Nemesis, Data’s transplant to B4 was effective, as evidenced by B4′s singing (why must Old Yellow Eyes always f***ing sing?) “Blue Skies” It’s a rehash of “Search for Spock” where we have a near lobotomized Spock saying “Your name is… JIM!”
By the next movie he was almost 100%. Similarly speaking, if Paramount had ponied up a big paycheck, plus producer and story credit for Spiner, Data would have been back with his positronic Katra residing in his simple-minded plot device brother.

28. CarlG - January 10, 2009

Interesting. I like Nero’s ship — it looks distinctly Romulan, but definately unique.

Just had a thought – since there’s time travel involved, and the bridge looks the same, maybe the ship in the movie is this one, with years and years of modifications added onto it?

@24: That’s just what I was going to say.

29. dalek - January 10, 2009

The dialogue seemed very comic book to me. Not surprising its a comic. You have to adapt to the format you are using.

If Nero and crew are calling each other “big boy” in the movie, then that’s a different issue.

However, where I’m from “big boy” is quite a gratuitous term to describe ones reproductive organs and not there bodybuild!

30. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#18—”Nowhere is anyone called ‘big boy’. ”

Nor did I suggest that. My response was meant to point out that BOT’s dialogue portrays the Romulans, on a personal level, as being not dissimilar to our own kind. In fact, I think we are meant to appreciate that those Romulans are not faceless villains, and even to empathize with their feelings of friendship, loyalty, duty, and patriotism.

I wasn’t addressing (in that post, anyway) the formality or lack thereof in the dialogue.

The post to which I was responding said, “Nero seems human with that dialog to that guy in the spacesuit.”

Humans are also quite capable of formality in speech, just as they are capable of informality and the use of slang terms or metaphors.

Take this portion of the dialogue in BOT:

Decius: “Take care, Commander; he has friends. And friends of his kind mean power . . . and power is danger.”

Romulan Commander: “Danger and I are old companions.”

This is a ‘very’ human use of language.

Power is not actually danger, nor can danger actually be a companion. Call it metaphor, or call it personification, but clearly, Romulans are prone to very human habits in the use of language.

I do not see why the use of “slang” terms by people of the same species over a century later would be any less believable.

31. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re 28

So Nero’s ship got V’Ger’d? Maybe.

But it also looks like they just lost their drill.

32. dalek - January 10, 2009

#27 I think “The Offspring” firmly established you can download an Android’s memories, but not their “soul” or a better word maybe “essence” in Data’s case.

Data, even absorbing Lal’s experience of emotions, was still emotionless and no closer to understanding what it is that seperates him from humans as evidenced by subsequent episodes.

Data’s memory transfer to B4 is no different. The memories there, but the soul aint. If that happens, then Star Trek would be saying that Data is nothing but a collection of files. Whereas TNG always professed that Data was much more than the sum of his parts.

B4 could never be Data; just as Data could never be Lal.

33. Chris Auckland - January 10, 2009

I like it, good style, has the technobable..lots of -ilium resources, seems like trek to me! And seeing Nero’s regard for the life of his crew, it’ll be interesting to see what turns him into the evil, “wait is over,” Nero we know from the trailer!

I fear that actually regularly getting this comic, as I probably will, is going to nerdify me further…1602 and Watchmen are the only other comics/graphic novels (don’t judge me for including Watchmen in that) I have read cover to cover!

I am an excited Spuddy!

34. AJ - January 10, 2009

Pay less attention to the language used, and more attention to the fact that these guys are not soldiers. I think it’s a deliberate attempt to show that these were ‘normal guys’ and not soldiers or politicians.

35. dalek - January 10, 2009

Speculation: The drills proximity to the exploding moon creates some sort of ability for his ship to time travel, harnacing the power of the collapsing planet? Oh god, I’ve been watching FAR too much Star Trek……. I didn’t even use the word quantum, or singularity tho, so have mercy on me…..

36. Jefferies Tuber - January 10, 2009

Walk it off, guys. What civilization does not have slang? Name one that doesn’t make fun of people for size or their ‘backside?’

Besides, we’re not talking about RSA officers, these are the Romulan equivalent of longshoremen.

37. Rat Boy - January 10, 2009

The bridge of the mining ship and the drilling rig look identical to what we’ve seen before in the film. It’s possible that these vessels are in the movie, though I wonder how the “space octopus” plays into it.

38. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re 30

Also, see my proposed justification for the dialogue. That doesn’t mean I think it’s any good. I understand that the Romulans are humanoid and we’re reading their dialogue in English. My comment was specifically with the quality of the dialogue and I posted that same BOT quote above to illustrate what good weighty metaphorical dialogue looks like.

As for lowering vocabulary standards for comic books: The only comic books I’ve read were read two of the JMS Spiderman comics online (the 9-11 special issue and his first installment) and in neither did he alter his rather theatrical dialogue to please the kiddies (who are probably all over 40 anyway).

I believe the original writers of Trek wrote formally in order to create a somewhat timeless depiction of the future. By keeping the language clean, the dialogue suffers less from being dated (the skirts, however).

39. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#24—”I wll also conced that it looks like Nero and his crew are civilian contractors, and that their time spent away from the machinations and paranoia of Romulus would probably allow for interactions and a sense of familiarity that would be completely unacceptable in the Romulan military.”

Excellent point. They do seem to be performing a very “civilian-like” task.

Put simply, we do not yet know who these Romulans are, or what function in which they serve in Romulan society. I still do not know that it makes much difference. Romulans are generally well-disciplined, but they are not Vulcans. I find it perfectly believable that they would, at times, make use of less formal speech.

One Romulan shouldn’t be expected to behave precisely like another, any more than humans can be defined, as a race, by uniform behavior. I think that includes their respective manners of speech and use of language.

40. Jefferies Tuber - January 10, 2009

I have a feeling Ayel is going to be a very memorable character, because Clifton Collins, Jr. has the potential to be a truly great character actor.

41. Elise - January 10, 2009

35 That could work, which might be why Spock Classic and Picard would be interested in a private mining operation. How the Kirks get dragged into it is anybody’s guess.

It’s going to be fun trying to put these clues together!

42. Quatlo - January 10, 2009

Really bad timing and lack of basic survival skills by the Rommies in not checking that star for current stability status.

43. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re: 32

Data is nothing more than a collection of files. He doesn’t have a soul.
He is a great approximation of humanity, but not nearly as accurate as his brother, who acts on real human emotions and motivations (albeit evil).

TNG demonstrated this in the episode where he pursues a relationship with a female crewmember. At the end of the episode, the relationship ends because for all his mimicry of human emotions, Data was not a suitable romantic choice and could never give his partner what she needed, aside from companionship and his “fully functional” hardware.

44. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#38–”That doesn’t mean I think it’s any good. I understand that the Romulans are humanoid and we’re reading their dialogue in English. My comment was specifically with the quality of the dialogue and I posted that same BOT quote above to illustrate what good weighty metaphorical dialogue looks like.”

I would definitely agree that the dialogue is not as good in this comic book preview as in “Balance Of Terror” (Bob Orci’s favorite episode of Star Trek). I am certainly no expert on comic books (I’ve never read one), but I would never have expected it to be. Call it a preconceived notion of comic books on my part.

:)

45. Rat Boy - January 10, 2009

Re: #39

It could be that the Romulan crew’s mood is meant to contrast with their more villainous behavior in the film. Something over the course of the comic series will happen to them to them from happy-go-lucky miners into time-traveling fanatics bent on killing Kirk and destroying Vulcan.

46. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

42: Yeah, talk about 500 billion to one bad odds.

47. Devon - January 10, 2009

#15 – Tomalok was never cool enough to threaten to kick someone’s ass.

48. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

45: Clearly that is their intent. What makes a villain?

However, it’ll probably be some lame Anorax inspired imitation. Anything would be better than Shinzon’s hatred of humanity – a race of which he was a member and which never harmed him in any way. It would’ve seemed more logical that he would have taken out his aggressions on his Romulan captors by making them work for the new Reman leadersghip.

49. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

47: He threatened to destroy the Enterprise and display its broken hull in the public square of Romulus as a symbol of glory, but he didn’t get all up in Picard’s grill, dawg.

50. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#45—”It could be that the Romulan crew’s mood is meant to contrast with their more villainous behavior in the film. Something over the course of the comic series will happen to them to them from happy-go-lucky miners into time-traveling fanatics bent on killing Kirk and destroying Vulcan.”

That would seem to be the intent. The writers described the comic prequel as as story which depicts the transformation of Nero from a Romulan patriot to an evil villain (paraphrasing, of course). Obviously, something drives Nero to descend into villainy.

What I am most looking forward to is Orci’s promise that the comic series will make Nero’s connection to Spock (Nimoy) clear before the film.

51. Christopher L. Bennett - January 10, 2009

Why should all Romulans talk in the same way? Do all humans speak alike or act alike? Why are people always so quick to treat SF aliens as monolithic stereotypes?

52. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

A reminder to people that if you want this series you should reserve it at your local comic shop or pre-order at TFAW (see links above), or order subscription at IDW. This thing may sell out fast, I know TFAW actually had ‘sold out’ of pre-orders briefly.

53. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#48—”What makes a villain?”

The best villains, IMO, do not view themselves as such.

54. Mirror Jordan - January 10, 2009

I look forward to seeing the reasoning for Nero wanting to kill Kirk. Or will that be what this is all about?

55. Jorg Sacul - January 10, 2009

I’m just plain boggled. How can a 21st century person in western, particularly American, society NEVER have read a comic book in their life?

Not an insult or insinuation of anything, it just blows my mind.

Now is the time to correct that if you care to know the full story of this new Star Trek movie, me thinks. :-)

56. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

RE: 48 – Very rarely do they twirl their moustaches.

RE: 50 The writers described the comic prequel as as story which depicts the transformation of Nero from a Romulan patriot to an evil villain.

On the same note. It is quite common to be a patriot and a villain at the same time.

57. OneBuckFilms - January 10, 2009

Note about the dialogue:

Most of the Romulans we’ve seen are City Romulans, or Romulan higher ups.

These guys look more like Miners, workers, and may have a more “crass” or “common” way of speaking.

A bit like the stereotypical workers on a construction site whistling at the Blonde walking past.

58. dalek - January 10, 2009

# 43 If you believe Data was nothing more than a collection of files, then the magic of the character is lost. Data definitely proved he had his own individuality and aspired to grow beyond his programming.

Are our emotions nothing more than a set of repetitive response patterns of behaviour? Do we not always act in the same way to the same stimulous, unless choosing consciously not to do that, by breaking the pattern (which takes some people all their lives, and some never achieve).

Data was always greater than his programming. If I didn’t believe that, I would never have cared for the character. He would have been nothing more than the ships computer, which clearly he wasn’t.

The fact that he even cared to experience romance, shows he is much more than a simple collection of files. Do you know of many computers that “Roleplay” or have hobbies like painting and acting?

59. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#55—”I’m just plain boggled. How can a 21st century person in western, particularly American, society NEVER have read a comic book in their life?

Not an insult or insinuation of anything, it just blows my mind.”

No offense taken. I have just never done it. I have always read quite a bit, just not comics. The prospect never did anything for me.

60. Devon - January 10, 2009

This isn’t a “complaint,” and the few pages we’ve been shown seem reasonable.. but why do the Romulan spacesuits look like Transformers?

61. thorsten - January 10, 2009

Same drill, and the same bridge… fascinating.
So the core of the Narada stays the same, she just gets some add-ons ;))
And nice folks btw…

62. MattTheTrekkie - January 10, 2009

Last I checked, bad guys (usually) don’t risk their ships, or the lives of their crew (or their own lives) to try and save a couple of their peons. Nero really doesn’t seem too bad in these comics.

I wonder what happens to turn him so sour? ;-)

63. DavidJ - January 10, 2009

Well that was… underwhelming. The art is beautiful of course, but the quality of dialogue leaves a lot to be desired.

Sounds like the kind of one-dimensional writing I remember from my Superman comics in the 70s. Hopefully the writing in the actual movie is a lot more sophisticated than THAT! lol

64. Shatner_Fan_Prime - January 10, 2009

As a lifelong comic-book geek, let me just say you’re in for a treat, Closet. :-)

65. Harry - January 10, 2009

Big explosion + tethered to a planetary mining shaft thing = very literal sling-shot effect?

66. Paul B. - January 10, 2009

I wonder if this movie might be like “Devil in the Dark” in that Kirk and crew learn that the villain isn’t really a villain at all. Maybe that’s the Star Trek hopefulness that they’ve talked about as a thread in the movie: redemption instead of punishment/destruction.

67. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re: 62 Hitler was a devout Christian vegetarian who loved dogs. Villains aren’t always evil to everybody.

68. thorsten - January 10, 2009

@66…
looks like the Vulcans are the bad guys, at least from Neros perspective ;))

69. Kaiser The Great - January 10, 2009

I dig the miners suits, pretty sweet. Inside of the ship looks great too. No idea about the story, as it’s only five pages, but the art is nicer than I expected it to be.

70. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

“# 43 If you believe Data was nothing more than a collection of files, then the magic of the character is lost. Data definitely proved he had his own individuality and aspired to grow beyond his programming. ”

I’m saying this is what the writers themselves put on the page. Did you notice that episodes in the later season seemed preoccupied with knocking Data, who was so likeable, innocent, and human-like, down a few notches? That romance episode showed that no matter how much his programmed inquisitiveness tried to imitate love, it was not possible. Not only could he not feel or understand the emotion, but he could not comprehend the pain he had caused by engaging in the ralationship. In the end, she realizes in total futility that she is trying to love a machine and it ain’t gonna happen.

“Do you know of many computers that “Roleplay” or have hobbies like painting and acting?”

No, but a few years ago, I’d never seen an iPhone either.

71. Odradek - January 10, 2009

@ 67

och nö:(
who told you that ?
devout Christian ? nonsense

72. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Okay, I may have gotten the Chritian part wrong. I know he wasn’t Jewish.

73. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#71—-I think the confusion is in the use of the word “devout”. That term is about as relative as it gets. At the very least, he certainly acknowledged his faith as Christian. He may have even considered himself devout.

In any case, he did not consider himself a villain, nor were ‘all’ of his actions villainous. I think that was the point of the analogy.

74. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Although he was raised Roman Catholic, Hitler lapsed after leaving home. Later, he was influenced by Pan-Germanism. In his many comments on religion, his contradictory statements, which sometimes invoked Christianity, and other times did not, made it difficult to assess his actual beliefs.

75. The Orignal Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - January 10, 2009

If it’s out by the 14th, I’m screwed since I’m overdrawn until Friday :-0

76. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#75—Lol!

77. Unbel1ever - January 10, 2009

The dialogue lacks a bit cold arrogance the Romulans are so famous for. Also the ship has the wrong colour. Without the ears, those characters could easily be humans. I thought Nero looked this strange because of the whole prisoner vibe he got going on, but the others look just the same. Still it’s only a comic and IDW has produced scenes that were ‘off’ in the past. No worries.

78. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

The term villain is often subjective. It is almost impossible to be totally evil. A totally evil person would kill his friends, run over cats, rape his children, cheat on his taxes, copy answers on his final exam, etc.

It would be chaos. Utter chaos.

Come to think of it, that describes Heath Ledger’s Joker, doesn’t it?

79. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#64—”As a lifelong comic-book geek, let me just say you’re in for a treat, Closet.”

Did you order yours yet? What store should I go to? Is there one in The Heights?

80. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re: 75. A comic book ain’t worth a $39 overdraft fee.

81. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#77—”The dialogue lacks a bit cold arrogance the Romulans are so famous for.”

But again, we’ve only been subjected to the habits of the military/political class of Romulan society. And who is to say that Romulans will behave so arrogantly to each other as well as to other races?

The Romulan Commander and Decius were not so cold to each other in BOT. There seemed to be a genuinely affectionate friendship between them.

And the Romulan Commander in TEI definitely showed herself capable of warmth!
:)

82. New Horizon - January 10, 2009

Artwork is nice, but they don’t seem like Romulans. I’m not offended by profanity, but it’s lazy writing.

83. The Orignal Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - January 10, 2009

Oh, and Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian for moral reasons…he had to be for medical reasons. BOOYAKA! :P

84. usskelvin - January 10, 2009

Interesting that the none of the Romulans on the inside pages have the TNG ridges but Nero on the cover of the comic seems to have some sort of his bump on his forehead (well at least some lines drawn on his head)? wonder what’s going on there?

85. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#82—”…but they don’t seem like Romulans.”

And perhaps that is the point. Why would all Romulans behave in a uniform manner?

The civilian Romulans introduced to us in TNG’s “Unification” were not at all the same stereotype military class characters we had been restricted to seeing before. Indeed, they seemed like regular people who happened to live under the umbrella of a militarist and somewhat oppressive regime.

I would expect that the Romulan people are just as diverse as any other.

86. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

I have confirmed with IDW that the COUNTDOWN comic comes out on the 14th. Comics come out on Wednesdays and the online retailers seem to be listing all IDW books on the last wed. of each month, just to be safe.

87. Odradek - January 10, 2009

@ 73 & 74

although it’s very interesting, I don’t think here is the place to discuss Hitler’s
faith
my only plea is: if you need a villian as an example, why have you always to use Hitler ?

Why not use Nixon, for a change? he had a nice dog, too
or Manson, or Joan Rivers ?

88. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#87—-Agreed, although he is the single most recognizable and significant real world villain in modern times. It’s kind of a foregone conclusion that someone would make mention of him at some point. That would be like a discussion of any Star Trek movie without a comparison to TWOK coming up at some point.

89. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

they say once you ‘go nazi’ threads die, so lets all agree he was a bad man and move on.

speaking of nixon, he actually appeared in a recent star trek comic.

90. Corinthian7 - January 10, 2009

# 32 ” I think “The Offspring” firmly established you can download an Android’s memories, but not their “soul” or a better word maybe “essence” in Data’s case.

Data, even absorbing Lal’s experience of emotions, was still emotionless and no closer to understanding what it is that seperates him from humans as evidenced by subsequent episodes.”

My memory is a little fuzzy as its a while since I watched The Offspring but I don’t think this episode does rule out the possibility of Data being ressurrected through B4. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that Data was attempting to recreate Dr Soongs work by creating another artificial lifeform. However the positronic brain that Data created was different than his own in that it allowed Lal to have emotions. As his creation always had emotions and Data at that time did not then transferring her memories into him would essentially loose that unique personality that she had developed.

This is a completely different scenario to what we saw in Nemesis. I’m fairly sure that the movie established that B4 is identical to Data in every way only for lack of a better word… simple! Presumably B4 was meant to indicate what Data was like when he was first activated prior to having all those colonists memories downloaded into him. I’ve always felt that the writers never really liked having Data with the emotion chip and that if there had been another TNG era movie then they would have used his death to essentially reset his character back to what he was in the TV series.

91. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

also regarding Nero,

I suggest you read the TrekMOvie analysis:
10 Things Mission: Impossible III Can Teach Us About JJ Abrams Star Trek
…note number 4 specifically

92. GilmourD - January 10, 2009

Ordered. :)

93. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

I might grow a moustache, just so I can twirl it….

94. Unbel1ever - January 10, 2009

#85

They still should have something about them to identify them as Romulans. They seem more like the Sybok type of Vulcan – and we know how the movie that featured HIM turned out :)

95. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#95—”They still should have something about them to identify them as Romulans. They seem more like the Sybok type of Vulcan – and we know how the movie that featured HIM turned out :)”

If Nero “releases anyone’s pain” in this movie, I will walk right out of the theater in disgust.

Likewise, if at any point, Pine, Quinto, and Urban sit around a campfire and sing—-I will be so distraught that I might become a villain.

96. Captain Otter - January 10, 2009

Re: language

Just because the Romulan military has been depicted as so formal, should we assume that the whole society talks that way?

And does a disciplined society remain disciplined after a set of serious defeats?

This assumption that Romulan linguistic patterns should be static and homogeneous is highly unrealistic. Grammar and usage in any language varies depending on time, place, and social setting. But one thing is for sure- language is a living, breathing, changing thing.

Even in Balance of Terror, I can easily imagine that while the officers spoke so formally on the bridge and in private quarters, the engineers and janitors might have been below decks cursing up a storm- something akin to the British Navy in the Imperial period.

97. Odradek - January 10, 2009

@ 89. Anthony

speaking of nixon, he actually appeared in a recent star trek comic.

May I add that Byrne’s new comic Star Trek : Crew #1 is out to order for May.
It features Majel Barrett’s “Number One” and the Enterprise under Robert April.

98. Unbel1ever - January 10, 2009

#91

I rewatched M:I 3 last night. While it’s a fun movie, the plot is far from the quality I would expect from a Star Trek movie. What really bothered me was Hunt’s wife in the end. She is supposed to be a unknowing doctor, yet she is completely fine with the situation, not screaming like a maniac, not frightened and killing the bad guys with a gun, just like that. How’s that credible ? I usually tolerate a fair amount of cliche and stupidity for entertainment’s sake, but that continues to ruin it for me. Also small things that feel off…. Hunt loses his cell signal… on a main road…. in Shanghai. Or the rabbit’s foot is stored near the top of a skyscraper… yeah that’s a convenient and top secret location for a lab.
In both instances credibility was sacrificed for the “Wow”-effect. The signal loss gives Hunt time to shoot up the bad guys and the Shanghai skyline is just a nice scenery. Generally I switch my brain off, when I watch action movies, but that was never the case with Trek. So I REALLY hope this movie is NO indication how Star Trek is turning out to be.

99. Kruge - January 10, 2009

This comic is set 120 after Balance of Terror and on a civilian ship of miners

Having the dialog match Balance of Terror makes as much sense as expecting modern West Virginia coal miners to sound like officers in the Royal Navy from the 19th century.

I always find it so sad to see how strict and narrow some Trekkies see the Star Trek universe. All alien x must be the same because episode y established it and they are ALL the same for ALL time and forever

100. sebimeyer - January 10, 2009

#26 Is there really a calculation to figure “real time” from stardates?? I didn’t think there was. I believe you all, though. There’s certainly stuff I don’t know!

There is and there isn’t. If you are talking down the lines of converting a year.day.month-date (eg May 1st, 2534) into stardate, there is no official way of doing that.

The series, however, did have a way of making stardates more sensical starting with TNG’s pilot, which was officially at 41153.7. After this each season of TNG added one after the four, making season 2 take place in 42XXX and season 7 in 47XXX. After that Voyager continued it, bringing season 7 (14 seasons after season 1 of TNG) to 54XXX.

The TNG movies did fit into this, as they “happened” while Voy was still on the air. DS9, running concurrently with TNG and VOY, also fits into this.

Everything else is just averaging it out to make it “fit.”

101. Vorus - January 10, 2009

@51 Christopher L. Bennett

Excellent point. I’ve read your novel “The Buried Age”, and you got Picard’s personality and dialog just right, I think. (As well as most of the other characters.) So, that would seem to make you more of an expert on speech patterns than most of the rest of us.

Therefore, I have to agree. These are future, apparently non-military Romulans. Possibly of a caste or clan or whatever, that we’ve never seen before. I don’t see any canonical problem with their dialog. Yes, it might seem a little strange, but there isn’t anything really wrong with it, from a canon or continuity point of view.

102. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#98—”I rewatched M:I 3 last night. While it’s a fun movie, the plot is far from the quality I would expect from a Star Trek movie… So I REALLY hope this movie is NO indication how Star Trek is turning out to be.”

I would expect the two to be just as dissimilar as the respective television series. I was no particular MI fan, but I did find the 3rd installment to be the best of a weak series of films. That kind of movie was, to me, precisely what it was supposed to be.

I like Abrams. LOST really made me a fan. My wife and I are rewatching the previous seasons now on dvd before the season premiere on the 21st of this month.

I also love original Star Trek. I look forward to seeing my favorite characters in a story told in JJ’s modern style. The prospect even has me buying my first ever comic book just to stay “in the know”!

103. Jovan - January 10, 2009

56: “It is quite common to be a patriot and a villain at the same time.”

Quite true. Joseph Stalin comes to mind.

66: “I wonder if this movie might be like “Devil in the Dark” in that Kirk and crew learn that the villain isn’t really a villain at all. Maybe that’s the Star Trek hopefulness that they’ve talked about as a thread in the movie: redemption instead of punishment/destruction.”

I really like that idea — if they ended up working together towards a bigger, more sinister threat instead of broadsiding each other with phaser arrays like we’ve seen so many times already. For all we know, all we’ve put together so far about the plot could be a red herring to the real plot. J.J. Abrams threw us quite a MacGuffin in Mission: Impossible III after all. I wouldn’t put it beyond him to completely take us by surprise and indeed give us the Star Trek “like you’ve never seen before.” I can’t wait.

84: “Interesting that the none of the Romulans on the inside pages have the TNG ridges but Nero on the cover of the comic seems to have some sort of his bump on his forehead (well at least some lines drawn on his head)? wonder what’s going on there?”

Me and another fan have theorised it’s merely aesthetic. They may be blending the two styles of Romulan makeup together for a more unified look of TOS and the spinoff series. I actually really like it. If you look at the pictures of Nero, you’ll notice he has the heavier, lower brow of the TNG Romulans, yet the human-like forehead of Vulcans/early Romulans. Genius approach.

104. The Wild Man of Borneo - January 10, 2009

#10 and #14

I find it funny that fans read something totally out of character and they try to rationalize it. The dialogue in this comic with the Romulans sucks and is totally uncharacteristic to them, as #18 pointed out very well.

Once again as with this movie, it sucks. I hope the movie dialogue isn’t like this, but I would not be surprised if it is.

105. Shatner_Fan_Prime - January 10, 2009

#79 “Did you order yours yet? What store should I go to? Is there one in The Heights?”

The nearest 2 are Nan’s Comics & Games, and Third Planet, both on the Southwest Freeway near Shepherd/Greenbriar and Buffalo Speedway, respectively. Each about 15 minutes from where you work and I live.
I recommend calling ahead of time to have them hold you a copy.

Happy hunting!!

106. Unbel1ever - January 10, 2009

#102

Lost lost me after Season 1 :) I liked the “Lord of the Flies” themes the first season had. It felt somewhat dull from season 2 on. Much the same thing that happened to me with Heroes. I hope you’re right about Star Trek being as different from M:I 3 as the respective tv series were.

107. Odradek - January 10, 2009

#79 “Did you order yours yet? What store should I go to? Is there one in The Heights?”

You should also consider to just buy the trade.
I think in your case that would be the best deal.

108. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

I’m no anthropologist, but it seems to me that the ridges on the foreheads of TNG-era Romulans never really made sense.

For that to be a natural evolution following their “exodus” from Vulcan to the system where the planets Romulus and Remus exist, my inclination is to conclude that such an “exodus” would have had to occur many thousands of years before. Just how long have Vulcans had space-faring capabilities?

The other theory I have is that perhaps only a relatively small number of ancient Vulcans left the planet (perhaps defeated in Vulcan’s last terrible war), and that the ridges are a result of inter-breeding with a conquered species somewhere down the line. This would seem necessary to me if the Romulan population were to develop sufficient numbers to establish and maintain an empire.

I doubt that much thought was given to this at all, but the appearance of ridges in TNG was always a minor irritant to me.

109. Jovan - January 10, 2009

104: Not as bad as people judging a movie they haven’t yet seen.

110. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#106—”Lost lost me after Season 1 :) I liked the “Lord of the Flies” themes the first season had. It felt somewhat dull from season 2 on. ”

Season two was a bit of a letdown, but I think it regained some momentum in season 3. I love the changeup (where the flashes move forward in time instead of backward) in season 4.

111. Jovan - January 10, 2009

108: I’ve always thought that, but then again the “Proto-Vulcan” Mintakans looked like this. It was an ill-planned aesthetic change to differentiate Vulcans from Romulans. I really do like the new Romulan makeup on Nero, though.

112. Uhura (Mirror) - January 10, 2009

I don’t see what everyone is talking about in the dialog. It is a exciting scene and makes me want to read more. The only kind of different thing is a single ‘bubble’ from the woman talking to the guy in the platform, calling him ‘big boy’…but I read that as he is her boy friend or husband. Nero and the rest of the crew still seem pretty disciplinned. I have ordered the comic, and I haven’t read a comic book for a long time.

113. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#104—” find it funny that fans read something totally out of character and they try to rationalize it. The dialogue in this comic with the Romulans sucks and is totally uncharacteristic to them, as #18 pointed out very well.”

I’d say that you seem to have a very narrow perspective of what might be in or out of character. The truth is, you’ve seen very little of Romulan society to begin with. There is absolutely no reason to conclude that Romulans are monolithic creatures who all march to a specific stereotypical drum.

This would be no more “out of character” than the Romulan civilians depicted in TNG’s “Unification”. If Romulans are not all arrogant militarists, why would they all speak in the same style, not to mention 120 years or so after the events depicted in “Balance Of Terror”?

Romulans would likely be just as culturally diverse as any other species.

114. Odradek - January 10, 2009

113.

Romulans would likely be just as culturally diverse as any other species.

But that opens the door for randomness.
In sci-fi aliens have to represent certain things.
What is the point in using Romulans at all, if they are just like humans.
If they are unrecognizable it’s just bad writting.

115. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#105—Thanks, my friend.

#107—”You should also consider to just buy the trade.
I think in your case that would be the best deal.”

Thanks, but from what I understand, the “Trade” is not available (even for pre-order) until April 29th. The anticipation I feel for this movie is akin to the way I felt standing in line for TWOK in 1982. I think that knowing there is someone else out there reading background stories already would be too much for me.

I…must….have…the Countdown series…on time (throws hands out, palms up, and chews the scenery a bit)!

116. OneBuckFilms - January 10, 2009

Issues 2 and 4 seem to be sold out !!!

I could only add issues 1 and 3.

117. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#114—”What is the point in using Romulans at all, if they are just like humans” ?

They shouldn’t be just like humans. What I suggested is that they would likely be as culturally diverse as not only humans, but any other sentient species.

“If they are unrecognizable it’s just bad (writing).”

You certainly cannot judge them to be “unrecognizable” from a few lines of dialogue in a comic book.

I don’t think that BOT depicts their language as specific to a culture either. Judged solely by the dialogue in that episode, the Romulan Commander and Decius could easily have been educated at Oxford.

I think it would be “lazy writing” to have all Romulans talk and behave in the same manner.

118. Enterprise - January 10, 2009

Good lord people, It’s a comic book. Fans these days love to complain.

119. Odradek - January 10, 2009

@116

Issue 4 is not out to preorder yet , as far as I know
at least not by previews

120. MazzNX01 - January 10, 2009

Ugh.

121. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#118—”Fans these days love to complain.”

Fans have always loved to complain. “These days”, there is an outlet for those complaints that wasn’t around 30 years ago.

122. Enterprise - January 10, 2009

Yeah there were. There was Starlog Magazine, and other sci fi magazines. Remember Sci Fi Universe? Half that magazine was complaints.

123. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#122—Of course, but there is no comparision, IMO, to the outlet we know as “the internet”, which is specifically what I was referring to. I can only imagine the volume and types of complaints we would have seen in 1979 or 1982, for example, if such an outlet had been available.

124. Newman - January 10, 2009

so he basically worked on an outer space mining rig? Kind of like Bruce Willis’ character in Armageddon?

125. Closettrekker - January 10, 2009

#124—-Mining with some sort of drilling apparatus seems to be what they are being depicted as doing in the preview.

126. Kirk's Girdle - January 10, 2009

Re: 122 Yeah, but the cost of a stamp limited the amount of complaints.

127. Devon - January 10, 2009

# 114 – Are you implying all humans act the same as well? Don’t think so. Romulans can be just as diverse as Humans. Nothing wrong if they say a couple of curse words. As I say, Major Kira cursed herself.

128. AJ - January 10, 2009

When Nero says “The wait is over,” he seems to have adopted the formal tone of speech some here think the comic lacks.

The informality of the language in this comic means nothing. In Russian, informal language often refers to body parts, though you’ll never hear it on the Bridge of a military ship. But below decks, watch out.

I am willing to bet that this is meant to show just how radical Nero’s transition is from captain of a civilian mining ship to the guy in the film.

129. Odradek - January 10, 2009

#114- “I don’t think that BOT depicts their language as specific to a culture either. Judged solely by the dialogue in that episode, the Romulan Commander and Decius could easily have been educated at Oxford.”

That’s what I meant. For me the Romulans always represented a certain class . A class of officers.
The educated, civilized, aristocratic adversary.
So frivolous talk doesn’t fit well with them, for my taste.

130. steve623 - January 10, 2009

“Why are people always so quick to treat SF aliens as monolithic stereotypes?”

Because that’s the way they’ve generally been written in mainstream sci-fi, thus that’s what audiences have come to accept and expect.

131. sean - January 10, 2009

I would hardly expect the extremely formal dialog from BOT to be representative of the speech patterns of the entire Romulan Empire. I’d also be surprised if the film makers employed it in the new movie, as it would sound stiff, formal and anachronistic to most audiences. I would expect military officers to sound a bit more formal than the typical citizen, but this comic makes it appear as though Nero starts out as some kind of contractor or engineer. So that they sound a little looser isn’t that big of an issue.

That being said, the ‘big boy’ line does sound really goofy. Hopefully that kind of stuff is inherent to the comic and not the film.

132. 1 - January 10, 2009

#125

You weenie, go find a girl (or boy, if that’s your thing) to play with. Replying to everyone’s post makes you appear sad and pathetic. Also, your quick response to anyone who shows the slightest dissatisfaction with anything relating to Abrams or this film makes me think you are somehow related to the prodution.

We’ve all heard from you. Now please, In short, shut up and let others say their peace.

Also, why the name closettrekker? Are you afraid to express your interests to friends and family?

133. Dr. Image - January 10, 2009

Yes. The informality bugs me.
It will be interesting to see how this post-Nemesis era appears.
You know… once you hit bottom…

134. Gabriel Bell - January 10, 2009

#132 … Definitely not cool. That kind of attack is not what this site is about. Don’t be a Herbert.

135. Xai - January 10, 2009

#132 1.

Seems he didn’t keep you from commenting.

136. Odradek - January 10, 2009

# 127. – Are you implying all humans act the same as well? Don’t think so. Romulans can be just as diverse as Humans. Nothing wrong if they say a couple of curse words. As I say, Major Kira cursed herself.

Like steve623 just said, I want my Star Trek aliens stereotyped to a specific degree. At least those in the background. It’s fine to have multilayered characters like Worf or Quark, but they work better if the other Klingons are
clear defined and one-dimensional.

I’ m a big fan of the Indiana Jones movies. And those movies can only work with Comic Book Nazis.
As soon as you try to portray them like in “Schindler’s List” you are in serious trouble.
Star Trek is like “Indiana Jones” not “Schindler’s List”

137. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

123 / 1
Warning for flaming (not a good sign for your first ever post)

Plus, It is not yours (or anyone else’s) place to say who and who should not have a right to post on this site.

138. Anthony Pascale - January 10, 2009

RE: sold out pre-orders
I do note that tfaw.com has sold out of pre-orders for number two, however they will likely re-up their order and should have more pre-orders available soon, this also happened for number one previously but that is again available for preorder. You can also click the link to subscribe at IDW above, that should get you all issues, but will not be discounted like TFAW. Also try and reserve them at your local comic shop.

Or you can wait for the Trade to come out in April and avoid the whole comics thing.

139. AJ - January 10, 2009

132: 1:

Take that comment and shove it.

140. Capt Mike Of The Terran Empire - January 10, 2009

ClosetTrekker. You keep right on posting. I always enjoy reading your post weather i agree or not. Well I think the Comics are great and im looking forward to reading them and getting ready for the New Movie. This will be so kool.#132 be kool ok. If Spock would have heard you what do you think he would say to you.

141. Unbel1ever - January 10, 2009

Well, I’ve preordered the paperback from amazon. I can wait ’til April. The contents will get leaked anyways.

142. OneBuckFilms - January 10, 2009

I went directly to IDW Publishing and pre-ordered from there.

143. 1 - January 10, 2009

#139

wow. A comeback master if I’ve ever seen one. Snif, snif, why you got to go there bro!? A friend or family member of the closeted one perhaps? If so, tell him/her it’s okay. He/she is posting on a Star Trek site, we all know and share his/her interests. Come out of the closet oh lover of trek!

#137

Pain, we exist in pain. Then, we emerge victorious and smelling fresh!

144. Capt Mike Of The Terran Empire - January 10, 2009

I did the Same. Can’t wait to read the Comics and be ready for the Movie. Ill Give J.J this. Smart Strategy in doing these comics. Nice way to make some Extra Money and that will of corse help with more Trek in the Future.

145. 1 - January 10, 2009

#140

If Spock had heard me? Well, that depends on if you mean the original elequent, non violent Spock or the new iSpok.

Original Spock to 1: Your attack on Closttrekker was most illogical. It reminds me of an exchange I had with Doctor McCoy where, for no apparent reason, he derided my ancestry and devotion to logic.

New iSpok to 1: Right on dawg! You tell ‘im yo!

146. Weerd1 - January 10, 2009

They feel like Diane Duane’s Romulans to me. Ael’s crew often interacted with an informal air. Hmmm, Ayel Vs. Ael? Additionally, this doesn’t look like a military mission. I will be interested to see how a group of miners get a hold of a time ship- I hope I buy the explanation far more than the idea the Remans built the Scimitar.

147. Dialogue Doctor - January 10, 2009

Hmm! The dialogue in the comic really was rather poor. I don’t mean to be overly critical, but it just didn’t sit right with the Romulans of yore. Oh, I hope that the standard and delivery is higher for the movie.

148. Enterprise - January 10, 2009

Why do people harp on the Romulan dialog? This takes place after Nemesis. The Romulans aren’t going to talk like the ones in the TOS.

149. BrF - January 10, 2009

About that first panel — are we deep in Romulan territory, or right above Earth’s moon? Looks like good old crater 308 to me.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_25_prt.htm

150. Dennis Bailey - January 10, 2009

Interesting – in the middle image, the artwork incorporates a graphic display created by Rick Sternbach for “Solaris” – it’s the complex circular diagram just to the right of the viewer which is showing the disintegrating planet or star:

http://www.spacemedia.com/ap_sternbach_gallery_16.gif

151. Will H. - January 10, 2009

Im looking forward to it. Not a big comic fan, but I did lose my self in Watchmen so if this is any good it’ll probably be the same. Most of all, I think it’ll let us know if this movie, at least story wise, will be any good or not.

152. BrF - January 10, 2009

Dennis,

Funny that our posts came one right after the other. At least NASA’s photos are public domain. (Those were your moon missions, taxpayer.) I hope Rick Sternbach’s rep is on to this.

And these are are just the first five pages. I wonder what other, ah, homages are to come.

153. sean - January 10, 2009

#148

Because a Romulan saying ‘Big Boy’ just sounds…stupid. But it’s one line in what I’m sure is a lengthy comic, so nothing to get bent out of shape about just yet.

154. fred - January 10, 2009

Everyone keep their skants on and remember that the comic is translating from the Romulan language, and the idiom is probably changed to match our own analog.

155. Enterprise - January 10, 2009

Wow, who saw Solaris?

156. Izbot - January 10, 2009

First! Oh, I mean 156nd or so. Yeah, i saw Solaris — both versions! Loved ol’ whtshisname in the American version — dude who plays the physicist on Lost and was the journalist or something in Saving Private Ryan.

157. Izbot - January 10, 2009

Daniel! On Lost!

158. Dennis Bailey - January 10, 2009

#155: “Wow, who saw Solaris?”

Why does that matter?

Rick’s design work for the film is on display at his web site.

I saw “Solaris” a couple of months ago on DVD, by the way. Very interesting science fiction movie.

159. Dennis Bailey - January 10, 2009

BTW – John Cho is in “Solaris,” too. LOL

160. Izbot - January 10, 2009

158. Dennis Bailey –
I loved Soderburgh’s version of Solaris. loved the production design, loved the movie, period. My wife hated it, though. But whatever. Yeah, it wasn’t 2001 part 2 or 3 but who cares? It impressed me. I regularly watch the Science Channel and Discovery. I got it, I enjoyed it.

161. Izbot - January 10, 2009

79. Closettrekker –
“#64—”As a lifelong comic-book geek, let me just say you’re in for a treat, Closet.”
Did you order yours yet? What store should I go to? Is there one in The Heights?”

Hey Closet, can’t say for certain since I haven’t been around Houston fot a couple years but I’m pretty sure there are a couple comic stores in the area that’ll cover your needs. There’s one, in fact, not a few blocks from that megachurch the pastor’s wife assaulted that stewardess from. The church, that is, not the stewardess.

162. cellojammer - January 10, 2009

Hey ClosetTrekker

I always find your posts to this site to be reasonable, fair and well-considered. And I’m not the only one. You’ve contributed far more with your level-headed analyses than many of the, shall we say, “less thoughtful” around here. Most of the times when I see your screen name I know it’s going to be worth reading.

Just my 2 cents. I was a naval officer, but Semper Fi, my Marine brother!

163. Excited about Trek XI, but concerned about comic - January 10, 2009

Hmmm. I’m looking forward to the movie, and plan to see it. Still the same, I’m a little concerned. Romulans by Trek cannon have (as especially seen in the TNG series) a very distinctly self-drected and stolid character. Expressions such as “Get your ass up here” do not correctly represent a “Romulan” personality. I hope the movie gets it right. .

Yes, bringing in new fans is a good thing and I realize that in order to revitalize the franchise, some things about Trek may need to change. Still the same however, I don’t see any value or benefit in changing a character’s make-up as it seems these Romulans behave far to humanly.

164. Izbot - January 10, 2009

162. cellojammer –
“Hey ClosetTrekker
I always find your posts to this site to be reasonable, fair and well-considered.”

Yes, Closet, you are pragmatic and level-headed. Don’t let it go to your head! ;)

165. Izbot - January 10, 2009

163. Excited about Trek XI, but concerned about comic –
“Hmmm. I’m looking forward to the movie, and plan to see it. Still the same, I’m a little concerned. Romulans by Trek cannon have (as especially seen in the TNG series) a very distinctly self-drected and stolid character. Expressions such as “Get your ass up here” do not correctly represent a “Romulan” personality. I hope the movie gets it right. .
Yes, bringing in new fans is a good thing and I realize that in order to revitalize the franchise, some things about Trek may need to change. Still the same however, I don’t see any value or benefit in changing a character’s make-up as it seems these Romulans behave far to humanly.”

Perhaps it’s unfair to lump all Romulans in with the few we’ve ‘met’ over the years. Any more than it’s fair to assume five to ten, say, Thailanders you’ve bumped into while getting lunch could represent their entire culture. I’d also wager not every Klingon is a warrior and some are farmers and some janitors and some are scholars. We’ve become far too dependant (in the Trek universe) in expecting members of certain races to behave certain ways. To be truthful, many people act contrary to their stereotype.

166. Ampris - January 10, 2009

So is it coming out on the fourteenth, or the twenty-eighth? I called my local comic book shop and they said that the only Star Trek comic coming in that day was “Last Generation #3.” I don’t want to wait two more weeks and find out that they’re all sold out.

(Granted, I could always go there twice… or three times. lol. Just to check. :) But I’d like to know for sure…)

167. jc - January 10, 2009

Forehead ridges and shoulder pads were the two worst things to ever happen to the Romulans.

168. OneBuckFilms - January 10, 2009

Anthony, are we likely to see coverage of the score?

169. Dennis Bailey - January 10, 2009

167:”Forehead ridges and shoulder pads were the two worst things to ever happen to the Romulans.”

Heh. What about Sela? LOL

170. Adam Cohen - January 10, 2009

There’s always some interference with the transporter lock! Geez, to invent a transporter without that problem… that would be a lot of latinum indeed.

171. Rick - January 10, 2009

Not sure if this will be a great comic book from just these few pages. But hey there are many decent comic books being produced presently and they are not all just about superheroes. They are just like films, TV shows, music CDs, etc. There are great ones and ones of not such good quality. That also fits nicely the history of STAR TREK comics with the various levels of quality they have had.;) One more thing I have met many a cool person who reads comic books and a few that also produce them.

172. Enterprise - January 11, 2009

Maybe the accident destroys Romulus, and Nero decides to go back into time to try and change his mistake?

173. CarlG - January 11, 2009

@136: “I want my Star Trek aliens stereotyped to a specific degree. At least those in the background. It’s fine to have multilayered characters like Worf or Quark, but they work better if the other Klingons are
clear defined and one-dimensional.

“I’ m a big fan of the Indiana Jones movies. And those movies can only work with Comic Book Nazis.
As soon as you try to portray them like in “Schindler’s List” you are in serious trouble.
Star Trek is like “Indiana Jones” not “Schindler’s List”

One the one hand, you have a point. Indiana Jones vs. a morally complex, ethically ambiguous Nazi wouldn’t really work. On the other, I’ve always thought that the point of Trek (ideally, anyway) is that it only looks like a over the top Indy-style adventure on the surface, but there’s a lot more going on underneath.

And any stereotyped characters are bad. Period. You said, “I want my Star Trek aliens stereotyped to a specific degree. At least those in the background.” Can you imagine the reaction if you had said “Asians” or “Jews” instead of “Star Trek aliens”? Just beacuse the character is alien doesn’t mean you can get away with not fleshing the character out. Stereotypes = lazy writing.

174. cagmar - January 11, 2009

#169 – Sela was a spectacularly creative idea. Tasha Yar goes back with the stray Enterprise in “Yesterday’s Enterprise” because she realizes she is meant to die in the corrected timeline. Instead of erasing herself, Yar gets a second chance at life, in the past. But when she goes back, Yar is captured by the Romulans and turned into a slave. The offspring of that Romulan/Slave coupling ultimately leads to a Yar-child in the TNG present.

I’d be happy if the new ST movie had a single idea as cleverly constructed as that one!

175. S. John Ross - January 11, 2009

#8: “Get your ass up here?”

I winced a lot more at “gravimetric readings are off the scale” :)

Seems a pleasant enough slice of cheese.

176. AJ - January 11, 2009

173/CarlG

There is nothing wrong with “stereotyping” Jews or Asians, or any ethnic group, for that matter, as long as the film/show is comedy or satire, or if the fact of the ethnicity drives the plot.

Woody Allen’s earlier films did, and they were hugely funny, and unoffensive. He also had a go at WASPS, Hispanic revolutionaries, Californians,19th century Russian aristocracy, etc.

I would go as far as to say that the Godfather created a stereotype of the Italian American (I am one), which was perpetuated by Goodfellas, Casino and the Sopranos. I don’t walk around saying “How ya doin’ Tone! Gimme some ‘o’ dat gaba-goo!” even though some in my family have that accent. The depth of the characters in good stories gives the stereotype its place in storytelling.

Frankly, we’ve seen so little of the Romulans, I don’t think it’s possible to stereotype them.

177. Forehead King - January 11, 2009

Forehead ridges were EXCELLENT!

At least they made the Romulans look alien.

I guess you like aliens that just have weird face paint and wear togas…

Get a clue — with a BUDGET you aren’t restricted to just putting pointy ears and strange clothes on a person and calling them an “alien”.

I loved the forehead ridges…they were PERFECT! Anyone who keeps bashing the forehead ridges needs some forehead ridges bashed onto THEM!

Yeah.

178. Jeyl - January 11, 2009

#177

You may like Forehead Ridges, but I like the Gorns and Tholians a LOT better.

179. 1701 over Gotham City - January 11, 2009

Ahem… no forehead ridges!!!

The Romulans are essentially Vulcans, physically… they NEVER should have had ridges, as it’s really not evolutionarily purposeful or logical.

I like the art, although it gets a little “talking head” static. Hard thing to get away from with this kind of a scene. The dialogue does bite… “Big boy”? “Get your ass up here”? Romulan dialogue has always been passionate, but formal.
Yow.

However, I am looking forward to it! IDW puts out a good product! I certainly would not mind working for them… Maybe I could get my Trek work published :)
http://comicartfans.com/sketchbookPiece.asp?Piece=240903

180. fred - January 11, 2009

We’d better get used to the efforts of the writers and JJ to “make it real,” as they have stated. This fits in with that stated intention.

181. Kirk's Girdle - January 11, 2009

“There is nothing wrong with “stereotyping” Jews or Asians, or any ethnic group, for that matter, as long as the film/show is comedy or satire, or if the fact of the ethnicity drives the plot. Woody Allen’s earlier films did, and they were hugely funny, and unoffensive. ”

Unoffensive THEN. You can’t get away with half the crap now that you could in the 70′s.

182. Kirk's Girdle - January 11, 2009

Incredible artwork, 1701. What’s MCoy doing with the face-hugger?

183. Will - January 11, 2009

I know this is supposed to be a cold open a-la an episode, but am I the only one that feels this has a slight bit of a… cliche dialogue here and a failed attempt at building suspense? Even from a general comic book stance, I’m just not getting any urgency in these opening pages and, based on that, it’s kick started an inkling of doubt about this comic book series being as good as I once hoped it would be.

Art looks super nice, though…

184. 1701 over Gotham City - January 11, 2009

182, if you follow the link, you can see there are 3 other pages as well on the site, for a Trek v. Aliens crossover

185. Mr. Bob Dobalina - January 11, 2009

Man, the dialogue really is bad isn’t it? Who the hell over at paramount approved this crap? What’s the point of having certain standards that have to be met, if the standards are so low?

186. Doug in Kabul, Afghanistan - January 11, 2009

#59: I’ve never seen “The Simpsons,” so I guess it’s not so big a stretch to say someone has never read a comic.

One of the petty officers under my charge has never (gasp) seen a single episode of “Star Trek.” I don’t know how that could be possible either!

187. RTC - January 11, 2009

I was disappointed in the dialogue as well. I can accept slang or vulgarities so long as they’re natural, not distracting. (It’s my big beef about thick cursing in most movies, where foul language is included not because it’s natural but because they can get away with it.) The dialogue in this sample is stilted and distracting.

188. Paulaner - January 11, 2009

#146 “I will be interested to see how a group of miners get a hold of a time ship”

In First Contact the Enterprise, with an ordinary warp drive engine, is able to travel in time, back home. It’s lame, I know, but we have to assume that every modern ship with a powerful enough warp drive is able to do it.

189. Lord Garth, Formerly Of Izar - January 11, 2009

Er uhhhh ,…..dude,…. fire distrupters,….. damn dog!!!!! it’s that dude Picard!! Warp us outa here G!!! Damn Bro that was close yo!!! True dat !!! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*t dont be a punk, let’s tear ass back ta Romulus!!!
I hear ya man.

(dialog from the comic series finale)

190. Olley Olley Olley - January 11, 2009

looks good,
will certainly rip sry BUY this when it comes out.

191. Toothless Grishnar Cat - January 11, 2009

I seem to recall it being said that these are not typical Romulans (I think it was Damon Lindelof who stated this), so that may explain their speech style and rough, mercenary attitudes.

192. Scotty - January 11, 2009

Sorry, but really, do you people seriously think all Romulans are THE SAME PERSON? Christ, of course there’ll be tons of different types of Romulan, same as there are loads of kinds of humans.

I bet you lot think the Romulans are all in the military and all wear those grey suits all the time.

Sigh.

I hate trekkies, now. I don’t want to be one anymore!

193. Pete359 - January 11, 2009

Okay, that was lame.

Sorry, I was actually looking forward to this thing. But it screams of trying to hard. “Get your ass in here” just sounds out of place… unless it’s Data saying it of course.

And Romulans have gods now?

The visual style is very nice but the dialogue is hackneyed and unreadable.

194. AJ - January 11, 2009

181/Kirk’s Girdle:

Have a look at “Family Guy” and “South Park.”

Go to YouTube and search for Don Rickles on David Letterman.

Sure. the former do it for cheap and stupid laughs, but Don Rickles takes it to new heights of quality. In 2008, no less. His status as the king of Jewish comedians gives him Carte Blanche to say whatever he wants.

It’s still out there, but as you say, it’s just not the same.

195. Justin Olson - January 11, 2009

Yeah, the writers of this comic seem to have a tin ear for dialogue — though the technobabble is recognizably “Star Trek” (almost to a fault: decalithium?)… but a better observation is, why are these Romulans dressed as if they were just transferred off of Morpheus’ Nebuchadnezzar?

196. Joel1245 - January 11, 2009

Wow, I remember when the Original series was “passing the torch” to TNG. I sort of feel like the Original series just slapped the hand of TNG and said, “Here, give me that. You messed up big time and I want it back.”

197. Brett Campbell - January 11, 2009

I remember a “Taxi”episode where Jim Ignatowski has a fare who is a network executive.

He asks the guy why the hell they canceled “Star Trek” as it was the greatest show ever — except for that one episode where they gave that Romulan commander lines that a Romulan would never say!

Talk about life imitating art! LOL

198. Admiral_BlackCat - January 11, 2009

I just had a nerdgasm after reading that.
One word: intense.

199. Admiral_BlackCat - January 11, 2009

About Nero becoming a villian. The best movie villians are noble villians that believe their cause is just. Also they are forced to become villianous, it is their last and only choice. Kind of like the reluctant hero, not every movie main character wakes up at the begining of the movie and says “Today I will become a hero.” Certain events take place that force our main character to take on the hero role, and vice versa for villians.

Unless they’re a xenomorph (Alien series) ain’t nothing noble about them. ;)

200. Star Trek owns you - January 12, 2009

All I can say after reading the elitist, smarmy, condescending comments in this thread is……no wonder Star Trek almost died and Trek “fans” have the reputation they do. I mean really.

201. Paulaner - January 12, 2009

#193 “And Romulans have gods now? ”

Why shouldn’t they? Romans were polytheistic, and we know that the Romulan civilization has been created mirroring the ancient Western Roman Empire.

202. Star Trek Daily Pic » Archive » Daily Pic # 330, Movie Prequel Comic - January 12, 2009

[...] A four issue movie prequel comic is starting this month from IDW.  This comic will set the stage for the new “Star Trek” movie due out in early May.  Learn more about it HERE. [...]

203. Unbel1ever - January 12, 2009

I’ve just read a short article about the new film on darkhorizons.
Here (you’ll have to scroll down a bit):
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news09/090109g.php

It’s spot on in my opinion.

204. Brett Campbell - January 12, 2009

203 – VERY interesting review (pre-review?) of the upcoming film with nail-on-the-head analyses of what’s at stake and what may or may not work.

Thanks for providing this link! Have a good one!

205. Rick Sternbach - January 12, 2009

150 & Others – As I mentioned over on TrekBBS, if you’re going to steal, steal from the best. :) Wow, I finally got my stuff into something from the new movie.

They don’t have to worry about me, they would have to worry about Fox.

206. Dennis Bailey - January 12, 2009

#205: “They don’t have to worry about me, they would have to worry about Fox.”

IDW can take a seat next to Warner Bros then. LOL

207. Jason P Hunt - co-creator of COMET TALES - January 12, 2009

Two things:
The dialogue in this preview reminds me of the difference between the original STAR WARS trilogy and the poor second trilogy. It seems a bit “dumed down”. We have, in fact, seen several Romulan civilians who don’t speak this way. You can attribute it to a translation or whatever. It just doesn’t feel right.

Having said that, I’m not going to dismiss it out of hand. It is, after all, only the first five pages…

The other comment I have concerns the idea of stereotypes. Even though they may be exaggerated, even though they may not be socially acceptable or politically correct, stereotypes exist because there is a certain element of truth to them. Is it wrong to apply them? Maybe. But if a writer puts in a Jew or a Nazi or a Muslim or a Klingon or a Metron, there are certain preconceived notions about how that character is going to act. It’s almost a shorthand, in some respects.

208. Jason P Hunt - co-creator of COMET TALES - January 12, 2009

Hey, look at that! I misspelled “dumbed”. How dumb was that?

I blame the Internet.

209. Admiral_Bumblebee - January 13, 2009

Hasn’t it been said somewhere that Nero and his gang maybe travelling through time by accident? Maybe we see this accident in the comic.
The destruction of the planet caused his ship to travel through time into the past. Now Nero is desperately trying to return home to his wife and children. The only way to return home is to destroy planets in order to create a black hole or something that allows him to travel through time. But his actions alter the future/timelines and the more he destroys the more he drifts away from his original timeline. He has become insane over time and is trying everything to finally return home, to finally create the timeline he originally left.

210. Closettrekker - January 13, 2009

#132—-Now that wasn’t very nice.

211. AJ - January 13, 2009

209:

That’s a VOY ep with Kurtwood Smith. Forgot the name.

212. Unbel1ever - January 13, 2009

#211

4×08 Year Of Hell, pt 1
4×09 Year Of Hell, pt 2

213. Ponfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

EVAC SHUTTLE!!!…….thats all

214. Ponfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

Maybe Data escaped the explosion…….Hence the Romulan subplot in Nemesis…..Perhaps B4 knows a little somethin,somethin,none of the rest of us knows………where did they get the viral weapon in Nemesis?………The future????….The past??????….What is its origin????Mines maybe????…..What if scanners didnt show a second craft(Neros craft ) Beaming him aboard(DATA) ???The Enterprise was pretty damaged after ramming the Scimitar.

215. Ponfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

Romulans dont seem to use this type of acronym….especially ones in command positions……But I am still excited about the movie.

216. Ponfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

Maybe shes Half Romulan……….Maybe shes part “big assed” betazoid.

217. Ponnfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

#189…..tru dat yo!

218. Ponnfarr9669 - January 13, 2009

Did Khan er……really KNOW Chekov?………….belay that order to fire TOOORRRRPPPPEEEEDDDDOOOOOSSSSSS. fire canon .

219. trekfanbutnotanerd - January 13, 2009

omg people it’s just a comic. let’s not overanalyze it or anything. blah blah informal language blah blah stardates blah blah NERD ALERT

220. Green Ink - January 14, 2009

There’s nothing wrong with giving these Romulans a less formal way of speaking, and neither is there anything wrong in trying to make them sound contemporary, but what’s on these pages is just bad.
Try actually speaking it, the dialogue is just clumsy. I hope the film will be better than this.

The conceit of the star suddenly blowing up also seems far fetched (yes, I know it’s silly science fiction, but there are limits). The new film is supposed to make Trek more real, this certainly doesn’t seem to be part of that. (if a star were to suddenly erupt, it certainly wouldn’t happen at the speed of light, so the ship would at the least have several minutes to get out of there, depending on the distance to the object)

The art is a mixed bag, excellent crosshatching and a good sense of light. The lay out is also nice, but the way the characters are drawn is sloppy.
And their colouring leaves something to be desired.
I’ve never really been a fan of most american comics, apart from the great Mike Mignola, most artists are indistinguisable.
The covers are also hideous.

221. Dom - January 14, 2009

Hi. Oh well, I’m missing all the fun while I’m on holiday!

I like what I see. Unshaven Romulans. Dialogue that doesn’t sound as if the characters have broomhandles up their bums! A utilitarian, ‘realistic’ quality to the mining ship!

Promising! :)

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