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	<title>Comments on: STO Update: Cryptic Q&amp;A + New Screenshots</title>
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		<title>By: bright one</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/11/sto-update-cryptic-qa-more-ship-images/comment-page-1/#comment-1442856</link>
		<dc:creator>bright one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish they make another turn base strategy game based on star trek with a map maker in it. All the starships ever created. 

it can be based on star wars empire at war. But more diplomacy and aliens like in birth of the federation but taken from civilization series design.

What do u guys think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they make another turn base strategy game based on star trek with a map maker in it. All the starships ever created. </p>
<p>it can be based on star wars empire at war. But more diplomacy and aliens like in birth of the federation but taken from civilization series design.</p>
<p>What do u guys think?</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alrighty, I guess I&#039;m not explaining the feeling I have about it properly.  Or at least, it all makes sense to me and maybe I&#039;m the only one, but I&#039;ll give it one last go to see if I can make my feelings a bit more clear.

Example:  STO set in post Nemesis world, Nero is in post Nemesis world as well.  That&#039;s all well and good.  

Why does Nero&#039;s existence, or the events of the new movie, need to be stated anywhere in the game?

Also, I just feel that it would turn into something along the lines of characters essentially going(NPC&#039;s that you happened to walk past in the world):

&quot;Hey, you remember when Nero traveled through time?&quot;
&quot;Yeah.&quot;
&quot;Wasn&#039;t that something?&quot;
&quot;Sure was.&quot;

or

&quot;Boy, those Nacelles on the constitution class sure were sleek and shiny and smooth.  They don&#039;t make them like that anymore.  No, sir.  The hood on the front of it, the slope towards the back... wonderful.  It just flows so well.&quot;

Basically, what I&#039;m saying is, fine, Nero is in the timeline post Nemesis, that&#039;s all well and good, but he&#039;s just a Romulan dude wanting to change *something* in the past and, I assume, failing to fully change things(we&#039;ll see in the comics/movie what his motives are).  More over, how would anyone even know that the events of the movie had happened given the ripple effect which generally takes place in Trek timeline shifts(which is why I find the above example dialogue to be something to be worried about in the event of sticking the new Trek movie into the game in any major capacity).

Also, and this is a big &quot;what if&quot;, but what if the movie bombs somehow or is deemed not an official part of the Trek universe at some point by some group with the power to claim such things(a la the Dune Encyclopedia which was first approved and accepted as official canon by Frank Herbert but which was later made non-canon)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alrighty, I guess I&#8217;m not explaining the feeling I have about it properly.  Or at least, it all makes sense to me and maybe I&#8217;m the only one, but I&#8217;ll give it one last go to see if I can make my feelings a bit more clear.</p>
<p>Example:  STO set in post Nemesis world, Nero is in post Nemesis world as well.  That&#8217;s all well and good.  </p>
<p>Why does Nero&#8217;s existence, or the events of the new movie, need to be stated anywhere in the game?</p>
<p>Also, I just feel that it would turn into something along the lines of characters essentially going(NPC&#8217;s that you happened to walk past in the world):</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, you remember when Nero traveled through time?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yeah.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Wasn&#8217;t that something?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Sure was.&#8221;</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>&#8220;Boy, those Nacelles on the constitution class sure were sleek and shiny and smooth.  They don&#8217;t make them like that anymore.  No, sir.  The hood on the front of it, the slope towards the back&#8230; wonderful.  It just flows so well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically, what I&#8217;m saying is, fine, Nero is in the timeline post Nemesis, that&#8217;s all well and good, but he&#8217;s just a Romulan dude wanting to change *something* in the past and, I assume, failing to fully change things(we&#8217;ll see in the comics/movie what his motives are).  More over, how would anyone even know that the events of the movie had happened given the ripple effect which generally takes place in Trek timeline shifts(which is why I find the above example dialogue to be something to be worried about in the event of sticking the new Trek movie into the game in any major capacity).</p>
<p>Also, and this is a big &#8220;what if&#8221;, but what if the movie bombs somehow or is deemed not an official part of the Trek universe at some point by some group with the power to claim such things(a la the Dune Encyclopedia which was first approved and accepted as official canon by Frank Herbert but which was later made non-canon)?</p>
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		<title>By: richpit</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/11/sto-update-cryptic-qa-more-ship-images/comment-page-1/#comment-1425230</link>
		<dc:creator>richpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30 - LOL at your mock dialog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 &#8211; LOL at your mock dialog!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive said it before and I&#039;ll say it again- Cryptic is making a big mistake by making this a TNG game- they should talk to Abrams and Orci to make this game in line with the new movie- it will sell like hotcakes instead of just becoming another Trek game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again- Cryptic is making a big mistake by making this a TNG game- they should talk to Abrams and Orci to make this game in line with the new movie- it will sell like hotcakes instead of just becoming another Trek game.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The product is called &quot;Star Trek,&quot; encompassing 5 live action series, 1 animated series and 11 feature films, plus numerous books, games and comics.

Within that portfolio, the different iterations of Trek are all part of the same product, or portfolio of products in the &quot;Trek&quot; line.

___________

Spock:  &quot;Jim?  I&#039;m going to step out for a smoke.&quot;

Kirk:  &quot;Spock, why don&#039;t you try a Kent?  Unlike other brands, Kent&#039;s new micronite (R) filter removes the harshness when you inhale, so all you get is smooth flavor and tobacco satisfaction every time.&quot;

Spock:  &quot;Captain Kirk...I shall consider it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The product is called &#8220;Star Trek,&#8221; encompassing 5 live action series, 1 animated series and 11 feature films, plus numerous books, games and comics.</p>
<p>Within that portfolio, the different iterations of Trek are all part of the same product, or portfolio of products in the &#8220;Trek&#8221; line.</p>
<p>___________</p>
<p>Spock:  &#8220;Jim?  I&#8217;m going to step out for a smoke.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kirk:  &#8220;Spock, why don&#8217;t you try a Kent?  Unlike other brands, Kent&#8217;s new micronite (R) filter removes the harshness when you inhale, so all you get is smooth flavor and tobacco satisfaction every time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spock:  &#8220;Captain Kirk&#8230;I shall consider it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Pascale</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/11/sto-update-cryptic-qa-more-ship-images/comment-page-1/#comment-1422713</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry Will, but that still doesn&#039;t make any sense. We are talking about the backstory for a game that comes out well after the movie comes out. This kind of stuff is only of interest to hard cores who are going to go to the movie anyway. And the notion that any kind of continuity for an in universe tie-in is &#039;product placement&#039; is really absurd. Is every mention of Star Wars contiuity in Star Wars Galaxy some kind of product placement...if they added new content to SWG based on new books or the new TV show that is just tying the universe together, not some kind of product  placement. 

the bottom line is that part of this new movie takes place in the post Nemesis universe and the entire movie prequel comic takes place in the post nemesis universe and this game takes place in the post nemesis universe. Having those work together is not &#039;product placement&#039; it is just creating continuity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry Will, but that still doesn&#8217;t make any sense. We are talking about the backstory for a game that comes out well after the movie comes out. This kind of stuff is only of interest to hard cores who are going to go to the movie anyway. And the notion that any kind of continuity for an in universe tie-in is &#8216;product placement&#8217; is really absurd. Is every mention of Star Wars contiuity in Star Wars Galaxy some kind of product placement&#8230;if they added new content to SWG based on new books or the new TV show that is just tying the universe together, not some kind of product  placement. </p>
<p>the bottom line is that part of this new movie takes place in the post Nemesis universe and the entire movie prequel comic takes place in the post nemesis universe and this game takes place in the post nemesis universe. Having those work together is not &#8216;product placement&#8217; it is just creating continuity</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just saying that no one even knows what effect the new movie will/would have on the timeline in the Trek universe.  Advocate was the wrong word choice, a disjointed thought on my part, but what I meant was that it doesn&#039;t seem that the new movie would need to be a part of this game at all and, in my opinion, that means that any direct piece of the new movie in this game would inherently be product placement for JJ Abrams&#039; movie.

for example, as a gamer playing STO, you may not have seen the movie itself when you purchase the game so it stands to reason that the rights owners want to get you to go and see the new movie.  Solution?  Stick it in the game even though it doesn&#039;t have very much, if anything, to do with how things are in the present timeline(unless they rewrite the timeline to show it directly affecting major events in the future they are creating).

Again, to clarify, I have no problem linking games to the franchises that gave birth to them.  My problem ist o make it overtly blatant which is, in my opinion, the only way that they could make direct references to the new movie.

And yes, I know the game comes out after the movie does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying that no one even knows what effect the new movie will/would have on the timeline in the Trek universe.  Advocate was the wrong word choice, a disjointed thought on my part, but what I meant was that it doesn&#8217;t seem that the new movie would need to be a part of this game at all and, in my opinion, that means that any direct piece of the new movie in this game would inherently be product placement for JJ Abrams&#8217; movie.</p>
<p>for example, as a gamer playing STO, you may not have seen the movie itself when you purchase the game so it stands to reason that the rights owners want to get you to go and see the new movie.  Solution?  Stick it in the game even though it doesn&#8217;t have very much, if anything, to do with how things are in the present timeline(unless they rewrite the timeline to show it directly affecting major events in the future they are creating).</p>
<p>Again, to clarify, I have no problem linking games to the franchises that gave birth to them.  My problem ist o make it overtly blatant which is, in my opinion, the only way that they could make direct references to the new movie.</p>
<p>And yes, I know the game comes out after the movie does.</p>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;re not taking into account what happened in the Destiny series? Because that was kind of a major change to the TNG era. I loved the Destiny series, but I can see how it might throw a wrench into a MMO game that&#039;s been in development for some time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they&#8217;re not taking into account what happened in the Destiny series? Because that was kind of a major change to the TNG era. I loved the Destiny series, but I can see how it might throw a wrench into a MMO game that&#8217;s been in development for some time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Devon Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don&#039;t like that all the conflicts are relegated to warring with other species. That&#039;s more &quot;Wars&quot; than &quot;Trek&quot;.



http://geektrek.today.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t like that all the conflicts are relegated to warring with other species. That&#8217;s more &#8220;Wars&#8221; than &#8220;Trek&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://geektrek.today.com/" rel="nofollow">http://geektrek.today.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SarahJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SarahJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23

The Way to Eden Online?</description>
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<p>The Way to Eden Online?</p>
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