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Whoopi Goldberg Wants In To Abrams Trek + New Sci-Fi Web Series Online January 20, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Sci-Fi, Star Trek (2009 film), TNG , trackback

In the last week Whoopi Goldberg (Star Trek The Next Generation’s Guinan) premiered Stream, a new sci-fi web series on FEARnet. Goldberg has been doing press for the new show and our friends and fellow Trek geeks at UGO got Goldberg talking about JJ Abrams new take on Trek, and she is all for it…so much so she wants in.

Goldberg: put me in JJ
Excerpt from UGO’s interview with Goldberg:

UGO: We’re all really big Trek nerds here, and we wanted to here your thoughts on the new movie.

Whoopi: I can’t wait. I’m like, “Let’s Go!” I’m ready to see it. It’s JJ. Anything JJ Abrams does, I’m ready to watch.

UGO: You’re ready to watch, but we don’t know how old the El-Aurian race is. Do you think there could be a Guinan sighting in any new movies?

Whoopi: If I could convince him…And we know that she’s if not older than Q, she’s as old as Q. So we do know that she’s quite old. And she’s been traveling around. She’s been around. And because I believe in my heart that Picard is one of her great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren. So, you know, I know we’re not starting with Picard, but maybe she’ll show up with Spock.
more at UGO

We do know that Guinan is very very old. Before her time aboard the USS Enterprise D in the 24th century, Guinan was on Earth in the late nineteenth century (TNG "Time’s Arrow") and was seen on the Enterprise B in the 23rd century as a refugee escaping the Borg ("Star Trek Generations"). Like Spock, Guinan could possibly appear in the post Nemesis era, or the pre-TOS era. As the film is in the can, it is far too late to work her in to JJ Abrams 2009 Star Trek movie, but there are always possible sequels.


Goldberg as Guinan in "Times Arrow, Part 2"

Goldberg’s Stream Online now
Stream, the new six-part web series on FEARnet, chronicles the struggles of a woman who spends her lifetime wrestling with her personal demons and trying to gather the strength to face her first fears. Whoopi Goldberg, who is also the producer for the show, stars Jodi Quinn. Thanks to a drug she took when she was seventeen, moments from various points in Jodi’s life become intertwined, effectively letting her experience two moments at once.


Goldberg in ‘Stream’ on FEARnet

Stream snaps back and forth through three phases of Jodi’s life: her past as an intelligent but headstrong teen; her present in a psychiatric facility, and her future as an adult clinging to a normal life after years of tribulation. The story unfolds in and around New York City, as viewers travel with Jodi from the wealthy suburban home of her youth to the nebulous world of an institution, and the unforgiving streets of the South Bronx as she confronts the traumatic, fearful images and demons that have tortured her throughout her life. More info on the show and cast can be found at the official site.

The first five minute webisode of Stream is available online now at FEARnet.com (USA Only) and also available On Demand with most cable networks. New installments will be made available over the next five Thursdays.

Here is a trailer for Stream.

 

Comments»

1. mikey_pikey (Ireland) - January 20, 2009

we want whoopi!! well i do anyway! star trek XII :)

2. That One Guy - January 20, 2009

1,
Agreed! I love Whoopi. Having her back in Trek would be great. And even better, no one can argue canon! It also wouldn’t have to involve time travel since she’s….. very very old.

3. Capt. of the USS Anduril - January 20, 2009

Well, she was around in Sam Clemens time, so she could concievably show up.

4. SPB - January 20, 2009

GAH!!! I’m sorry, but Guinan drove me up the proverbial wall. The sanctimonius, mysterious, wise, old sage bit grew increasingly tiresome with each appearance. I know she’s likable and all, and Guinan has her fans, but I found her even more grating than Wesley Crusher.

5. JWM - January 20, 2009

I wouldn’t begrudge her appearance, and think that she’s a good actress, but I was never big on the Guinan character. Of course, she’s so recognizable, it would be insane to cast her as anything but Guinan.

So I guess I fall into the “if so, great, if not, no big deal for me” category. Like I said, she’s a good actress, so if it worked out either way, cool.

6. mikey_pikey (Ireland) - January 20, 2009

MORE grating than wesley crusher, lol wow u must really dislike Guinan, coz i know how i felt about wesley crusher, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :P

7. That One Guy - January 20, 2009

Ah, Wesley is one character I can live without.

8. sean - January 20, 2009

I love Whoopi, so I’d be perfectly happy seeing her!

9. John from Cincinnati - January 20, 2009

Go away Whoopi.

If they couldn’t put Shatner in, you ain’t gettin’ in.

10. Alpha Male. - January 20, 2009

Yeah we need sum1 who can actually act apart from NImoy Urban and Bana in this abomination of Star Trek.

11. Third Remata'Klan - January 20, 2009

WHOOPI!!!!!

Heck with the Shat.

(Ooooh……)

12. 1701 over Gotham City - January 20, 2009

Guinana was one of the only characters that Really appealed to me each tme we saw her. I’d love to see her again.

13. Third Remata'Klan - January 20, 2009

#10

“Abomination”?!?!?!

Why do you read these articles, then, if you’re not interested?

14. jn - January 20, 2009

“she’s as old as Q”

NO

WRONG

FAIL

15. Sybok's Secret Brother - January 20, 2009

There is not too much known about El-Aurian race… A lot of mystery with them… Why not?

16. James Heaney - Wowbagger - January 20, 2009

Whoopi actually drives me nuts as a person… but I looooove Guinan, and I think Ms. Goldberg did a *fantastic* portrayal of her. It would be marvelous to see her back in Trek again.

17. Devon - January 20, 2009

#10 – That was unnecessary (and without merit.)

18. Darkthunder - January 20, 2009

#14

How is it fail? We don’t know a whole hell of a lot about the El Aurians to make one determination or another. She’s been around for atleast 400 years.

Q (John de Lancie) has been a member of the Q Continuum for quite some time as well, however we do not know when he became a member of the continuum. TNG showed that not all members of the continuum are born in the continuum, and that they join the continuum in their adolescent years. Q and Guinan have some history between them which has never been explored in any episodes, apart from Guinans obvious hatred toward him during his brief period as a flesh and blood human.

Would love to see both Ms Goldberg and Mr de Lancie to appear in a future Star Trek movie, regardless of what era its set in. As a Q, he could appear in any time period, posing as a human, albeit likely with an assumed name, such as the suicidal Q, Quinn.

19. Erehwonnz - January 20, 2009

I’d love to see her in a future film — while she is certainly significant for Trek fans, she would also work, I suspect, for new movie-goers as the Enigma, the spectator from outside of time and the human scale of universe. If used correctly, she’d lend both gravity and a sense of wilderness to Trek’s cosmos.

I doubt we’ll see her, but it would be fun. I hope Goldberg enjoys the film!

20. The Wild Man of Borneo - January 20, 2009

#2

At this point to argue about canon is a waste of time. It’s screwed and the result of it is dumb. Thanks Abrams.

21. screaming satellite - January 20, 2009

A Guinan cameo would be great in Trek 12 so long as shes in the background (like the ETs in the senate in Episode 1) …but please no hanging out with Spock.

22. Jeff - January 20, 2009

No more TNG characters- TNG is obsolete and over with. Heck, if I was Abrams I would make TNG (and ENT) nothing more than a bad dream!

23. Tony Whitehead - January 20, 2009

First of all, I love Star Trek.

However, one of the things that bothers me to no end about the universe of Star Trek as presented by the movies and books especially is how they all have to feature crossover characters from other incarnations. I realize that writers and producers love to try to squeeze in all the characters they can, and it’s gonna be absolutely GREAT to see Mr. Nimoy on the screen again, but c’mon! A cameo for cameo’s sake is not great storytelling, which is one reason most of us has come to accept William Shatner’s absence from the upcoming film.

That’s my two cents, anyhoo.

24. The Gorn Identity - January 20, 2009

Of all the characters to cameo why would it be Guinan? I’d rather see a much more substantial character like Picard or Riker.

25. Kayla Iacovino - January 20, 2009

I’d love to see Whoopie in a future prequel sequel.

26. Rhett Coates - January 20, 2009

Very interesting…. Between the 19st and 24th centuries, where was she? Back on El-Auria, or still – for the time being – on Earth during the “rebirth” after World War Three…? Did she become enthralled at our world’s population’s powerful drive to overcome their past [such as electing Barak Obama as the 44th Pres. of the USA, and other encouraging events] and begin a new life here? Did she ever meet anyone such as Z. Cochran or Lily Sloane — or, 100 years later, Jonathan Archer and the NX-01 crew? What about Shran? T’Pau of Vulcan?

Guinan DID eventually (IN THE NOVELIZATION, at least) meet Scotty [in "Relics"], after the ENT-D crew rescued him from the crashed Janolan’s jury-rigged transporter loop – which, evidently, he thought of after remembering that ADMIRAL Archer’s dog was caught in a transporter loop not long before (according to what we’ve heard will be in ST-XI) he first met James T. Kirk on that ice planet….

So, where was Guinan during all those hundreds of years? Not just tending bar, that’s for sure. ‘Too boring in such a tremendously transitional time for Earth. Perhaps she had far more extensive admiration for Mankind than we have heard so far. And besides that, she obviously wanted to stick around to, eventually as she knew would occur centuries later, meet Picard.

A [potential] canon reference on the Memory Alpha website, within Star Trek: Enterprise’s “The Would-Be Season Five” text, is a back-story reference about her time on Earth in Archer’s time – even though that hasn’t yet been filmed. But it’s right there on what is considered, by many, to be canon. (Or is it? Bob and Alex apparently have thought so, if any of what they have been saying about their referencing that website during the writing of ST-XI was taking place is true. I choose to trust their judgement on that topic.)

Did Guinan ever meet everyone’s favorite Andorian, Shran? Or Spock’s grandfather, Skon? Did she introduce Amanda Greyson to Sarek? (Doubtful, but an interesting notion.) Or George Kirk to Winona? (Again, doubtful.) What about Robert April? Christopher Pike? ‘Lots of possibilities there for Guinan’s inclusion in Star Trek-XII and ST-XIII, aren’t there? All it takes is imagination, and cross-referencing back-story for ideas that lend to the stories that will be crafted for the next two films.

Character crossover appearances from show to show, as well as across multiple eras, have occured in Star Trek’s multi-century eras: McCoy, Spock, and Scotty on TNG – and Kirk at the end of the 7th movie …. and other characters appearing on multiple episodes of TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY – each, with a nod to viewer-continuity, portrayed by the same actors! (And then there’s that potential [Season Five] ENT 2-parter with Guinan.)

To quote Spock, “THERE ARE ALWAYS POSSIBILITIES.” I tend to believe that writers Bob and Alex would agree, and so I must say that I HOPE we will see Guinan in either or both sequels to ST-XI.

27. JeFF - January 20, 2009

I love Whoopie! She could totally pull off a cameo in the new movies…

28. Odkin - January 20, 2009

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Please… flames on the Enterprise… a K/S subtext….Gary Coleman as Spock… a Barry Manilow theme song…. I would put up with anything in the new movie…ANYTHING… ANYTHING but WHOOPI GOLDBERG!!!!

Guinan was the most contrived obnoxious deus ex machina ever foisted on Trek! No more metaphysical spiritual crap in Trek!!!

29. tom - January 20, 2009

dare we mention the nexus in this thread

30. MORN SPEAKS - January 20, 2009

I think it’s really awesome whenever they can tie the old with the new! Why not? I think it would be very cool!

31. Just another German trekker - January 20, 2009

#29

Noooo, we won’t – arrrgh – big, ugly CGI-thingamabob having “plot device” written all over it… words can’t tell how much I despise “GENERATIONS” …

32. enterprise1965 - January 20, 2009

#28

I would even put up with a souped up dance version of “Faith of the Heart” (Enterprise Theme)

33. Mike Spacely - January 20, 2009

Whoopi was one of the truly great characters in Next Gen, I would welcome her in any Star Trek.

34. screaming satellite - January 20, 2009

29/31 – i kinda liked Generations….ok its not the best Trek film by any means and something like Yesterdays Enterprise wouldve made a much better cross over movie but its certainly not the worst film of the 10..MacDowell is always good and this was no exception – all the Picard/Soran scenes were great, The Ent B opening while abit silly with the inept captain was good fun as was the destruction of the Ent D…and who can forget the big screen debut of Spot acting his little pads off (even if people in the audience i saw it kept wondering why Datas cat was called Spock)

I also particulaly liked the concept of the nexus and the FX…i just didnt like the end…pretty much from when echo Guinan shows up in the Picards Xmas bit…everything from then on including the anticipated Picard Kirk meeting and the 3 way fight wasnt too good…and it seems no one likes Kirks death

35. Bryan - January 20, 2009

Guinan and Star Trek go way beyond anyone’s understanding. Beyond friendship, beyond family. I would Love to see Guinan make an appearance. Great Job in TNG, and subsequently in Generations in ‘94. I was glad she made an appearance in Nemesis, and besides she’s got 23 marriages under her belt at that time, so there’s gotta be more to tell about her. – besides there are secrets about Data and Picard she’s got from the 19th century too.

36. Gary - January 20, 2009

In Yesterdays Enterprise Guinan was the only one who could sense a change in the time stream. Wouldn’t it be cool if she showed up in Trek XI and sensed the change here as well.

37. Brett Campbell - January 20, 2009

28 – I find that I must side with you.

While Ms. Goldberg is a talented actress and comedienne, she, like many other celebrities, reached a media saturation point — at least in my book. I can’t say as I need to see her again in Trek, but it certainly appears that there are a number of posts in this thread that point to the contrary. To each their own, but to me Guinan was never a very appealing character.

38. MattTheTrekkie - January 20, 2009

I would love to see her in a sequel! Please at least think about it :D I would love to see Guinan again in Star Trek :)

39. Driver - January 20, 2009

Putting Ms. Goldberg in another Star Trek film would not be wise. She’s not mainstream enough now, nor is she likely to be in the future. Putting her in would cause unnecessary confusion in the young movie goer. Let the new crew stretch in the next.

40. Robert H. - January 20, 2009

Would not be surprised if an alternate timeline can explain why Guinan was on 19th century Earth and yet on an El Aurian ship in the late 23rd century. And Star Trek 12 might explain that inconsistency.

41. Fleet Captain Kor'Tar - January 20, 2009

With how many times we have seen the characters enjoying an adult drink over the past 40 + years of Star Trek to date , I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if NCC-1701 we’re to stop at starbase or space station between missions and they head to the staion/base’s bar and find Guinan serving up Chatuea (sp?) Picard and a bit of wisdom here and there . Even if she didn’t have a major part in the film . Just pours a drink says something that may sound a little vauge to the TOS crewmembers but we the audiance know exactly what she’s talking about .

It would be IMHO an awesome nod to continuity .

42. Daoud - January 20, 2009

#40 If we can figure out why Guinan was on Earth in the lat 20th and early 21st century masquerading as Caryn Johnson, that would be good to know, too. ;)

Guinan was the better addition to the TNG season 2. Lest we forget the other addition, Dr. Pulaski. If anything, Guinan’s presence was validated by her importance in Yesterday’s Enterprise. Canonically, there are many possibilities. She might have a daughter named Nyota, for example.

Another thought: Guinan’s function in YE could be used again in Star Trek XII. Guinan (to Kirk and Spock): “Something’s not quite right about you two, but I think it will still turn out okay.” Kirk: “What.do.you.mean?” Spock: “I assure you, madam, that nothing has ever been quite right about the two of us.” Or something like that. It would be the perfect cameo.

43. CMX54 - January 20, 2009

Whoopi ROCKS! :)

44. Lord Garth, Formerly Of Izar - January 20, 2009

Oh for the love of God no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45. MrAtoz - January 20, 2009

I love Whoopi but…………….NO.

46. Will H. - January 20, 2009

Wow, never realized there was such a big divide between Guinan fans and haters. Seems just a vicious as the TOS/TNG rivalry. Id love to see her have a spot in the movie, but yeah, didnt happen, but I think it could have without damaging the story unlike having the Shatner in there. Maybe she’ll be in the next one, though Im still against another prequel and wish they’d move forward already with Star Trek.

47. Nemesis was a great movie - January 20, 2009

Bring Guinan in, that would be awesome, and make sure she has a new hat every few minutes.

I think she was one of the best characters on TNG, I know how grating Wesley was and Guinan was one of the best, not worse than Wesley, infact the only person I couldnt stand more than Wesley was Troi.

48. Stan Wingson - January 20, 2009

Not interested- she had her time at bat already… bring on the new faces please.

49. Dennis Bailey - January 20, 2009

#9: “Go away Whoopi.

If they couldn’t put Shatner in, you ain’t gettin’ in.”

Fortunately, you don’t get the deciding vote.

And Goldberg is probably more reasonable to negotiate and work with than Shatner, which gives her an advantage.

Sure, put Guinan in the next one. No problem. And let Shatner focus on his talk show.

50. Chris Basken - January 20, 2009

Guinan was more of a Mary Sue than Wesley.

51. Stan Wingson - January 20, 2009

“Guinan (to Kirk and Spock): “Something’s not quite right about you two, but I think it will still turn out okay.” Kirk: “What.do.you.mean?” Spock: “I assure you, madam, that nothing has ever been quite right about the two of us.” Or something like that. It would be the perfect cameo.”

Um yeah that would be the slash fiction script. Don’t quit your day job #42.

52. SPOCKBOY - January 20, 2009

Whoopi is done.
I loved her in the Color Purple and some of her earlier films back when she was an actor, but after years of Hollywood Squares and The View I’m pretty sick of looking at her. Not to mention Guinan was a pretty lame character. For me the only actors who can really pull of the “wise adviser role” with any semblance of believability are Sean Connery, Morgan Freeman, Alec Guiness, and Lawrence Fishburne.

I agree, bring on the NEW faces.

: )

53. Schultz - January 20, 2009

LOL. I see Guinan in a “Star Trek” sequel, in that alternate Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci timeline, whispering to Kirk & Spock: “Something’s not wrong…”.

But seriously, I’d love to see her again, although I strongly connect her to the TNG world. (Which is wrong, I know, but still that’s how it is.)

But isn’t she a bit old to play Guinan in (you know) the past? Do El-Aurians grow younger when they grow old? Maybe some CGI work?

54. Schultz - January 20, 2009

#52 (SPOCKBOY): If you think Guinan was a lame character, take another close look at Deanna Troi, please.

Then again, why not someone else… maybe some high class actress like Vanessa Redgrave?

55. CMX54 - January 20, 2009

Take XI back to the cutting room and put Whoopi in it! If Guinan can’t save this film, nobody can! :)

56. SPOCKBOY - January 20, 2009

#54,
Yes I agree about Troi,
and Venessa Redgrave IS a great actor as well.
: )

57. SPB - January 20, 2009

I’ve just NEVER seen her as this deep, mysterious, alien character with oddly mystical powers.

I’ve always seen her as… Whoopi Goldberg. Guinan was never as profound as Goldberg or the producers/writers thought she was. Stick her in STAR TREK 12 and all she’ll do is speak in heavy-handed riddles.

PASS!!!

58. EFFeX - January 20, 2009

LET THIS HAPPEN!

59. James Heaney - Wowbagger - January 20, 2009

#26: You, sir, are shameless. ;) Good to see you though, Rhett.

I still have my notes on “The Treatment,” incidentally, even though now I can’t find my copy of the script. They’re fairly harsh, but if you want ‘em, they’re yours.

60. Illogical - January 20, 2009

More Whoopi!

61. Bill Peters - January 20, 2009

Makes Sence Gunnin is that old at lest….and it is a way to learn more about her!

62. Bill Peters - January 20, 2009

Plus we do get the Felling in TNG that she is as powerful as Q and probably as old if she is Younger her Species is not…..

63. Andy Patterson - January 20, 2009

My vote in the poll was going to say it all for me but number 9 (number 9, number 9, number 9…..) says it for me too.

“Go away Whoopi.

If they couldn’t put Shatner in, you ain’t gettin’ in.”

64. Darth Ballz - January 20, 2009

Except for Nimoy and a very few refrences you won’t see much of anything els from the original and TNG. This is a reboot and it starts all over again. If the new movie does make some kind of impact they won’t have to address a reboot again for some time. It would be much harder to recast the TNG actors than TOS and you’ll never see DS9, Voyager or Enterprise again…. Sorry folkes but holding on to a what if is not very foreward thinking, like Trek…..

Darth ” Who will I piss off today?” BAllz

65. Rastaman - January 20, 2009

While I understand where #19 (Erehwonnz) is coming from concerning Guinan potentially serving as “the spectator”, I still would rather not see her in a TOS era movie. These little crossovers are little more than fan fetishes which often are lost on the main stream audiences and detract precious time from the plot.

Having Nimoy in a movie is one thing because his character is known to the world at large. But including obscure TNG characters like Guinan in a TOS-era film is foolish. I would much rather they introduced new complex secondary characters into the Trek mythos then borrow characters from the other series.

66. Spock, you rascal you - January 20, 2009

Stay on that view show Goldberg, leave my Star Trek alone. The character she played on TNG was in my opinion silly and contrived. If some of you liked it, well, thats why there is chocolate and vanilla ice cream.

67. GaryS - January 20, 2009

ultimately, its up to Abrams if there is a Guinan cameo in the next film.

68. The Riddler - January 20, 2009

I’d love to have Whoopi in Star Trek again. She’s a wonderful actress and Guinan is a wonderful character that can connect all Star Treks through time.

69. Canon Schmanon - January 20, 2009

No thanks, unless you make the character interesting for the first time.

70. 05Ric - January 21, 2009

Gene Rodenberry, understood the importance of metaphysics/spirituality as an important factor to the evolution of the human race. The character of Guinan was the physical embodiment of this. Using Whoopie Goldberg was a wonderful choice as she can play the youth/wisdom paradox perfectly.

71. Star Trackie - January 21, 2009

….uhhmmm…………no.

72. AdamTrek - January 21, 2009

What the hell is wrong with you people?!/!?!?

Hatin’ on Guinan? No, no, no.

She was the most harmless character in Trek ever. More so than Riker. Some people hate him as being completely pompous. She was to Picard as Spock was to Kirk. Picard didn’t really have that in Riker or Data until Guinan came along, IMO.

And she was powerful, at least in a passive sense. She could fully protect herself againt Q’s powers and Q was afraid of her, in a way, shown in “Hide and Q”, I think.

73. Big D - January 21, 2009

#11 WHOOOP?

Oh my god, you’re not an aggie are you?

74. jw wright - January 21, 2009

i didnt dig the guinan character at first, but times arrow should have won an award, along with a few other notable tng ep’s…

75. Dom - January 21, 2009

I suspect a younger actress would need to be cast – Merrin Dungey perhaps – but the Guinan character would be fascinating in this neo-Trek timeline!

76. T.U.M. - January 21, 2009

I didn’t mind Guinan in SMALL doses. VERY small. It would be a nice nod to see her in a cameo in future movies. maybe, just have Kirk go into a bar and she happens to be there and they exchange a few witty words.

77. T.U.M. - January 21, 2009

BTW, I never gave up hoping she’d eventually carry drinks on her tray-shaped hat.

78. Chris Basken - January 21, 2009

70: “Gene Rodenberry, understood the importance of metaphysics/spirituality as an important factor to the evolution of the human race.”

Uh, no. Roddenberry was an unapologetic atheist who, on numerous occasions, denounced mysticism and spirituality as backward.

Whenever there was something “mystical” in a Roddenberry-controlled (written, edited, or otherwise approved) episode, it always turned out to be an alien or a runaway computer or something equally mundane.

Spirituality didn’t permeate Trek until after Roddenberry died.

79. neonknights - January 21, 2009

Along with Troi and Wesley Guinan was the most irritating character in TNG,.

80. Fansince9 - January 21, 2009

I’d love to see Goldberg in the sequel–in fact, I’d love to see other TNG people in the sequel. That’d be very cool. TNG masterfully carried on the Trek torch, and so I’d love to see that crew share in the next chapter of Trekdom. :)

81. YARN - January 21, 2009

No

82. Demode - January 21, 2009

If they ever make a Star Trek: Enterprise made-for-TV movie (C’mon Sci-Fi channel… you do it for Star Gate and BSG all the time), they should put Whoopi in that. That would help draw in an audience for it.

83. John from Cincinnati - January 21, 2009

The hero of Starfleet, the original James T. Kirk, couldn’t get a gig.

…but the immortal bartender yes?

That would be the exclamation point that the new gang completely doesn’t know what they’re doing. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen.

New faces. New beginning.

To quote Walt Disney “Keep moving forward”

84. Thomas Jensen - January 21, 2009

Yeah, let’s bring every next gen character we can. The original series characters need to refer back to the spin-off shows because they need them so very much.

Which is not at all. Especially Guinan.

85. Brett Campbell - January 21, 2009

I don’t expect we’ll see too many TNG characters in sequels. There is a reason why this reboot is about the original TOS characters. They have something that they have proven and the TNG characters have not: box office draw.

86. Dr. Image - January 21, 2009

If there ever was a time for the cliche, “move on,” it’s on this issue.
Keep her OUT. Please.

87. Demode - January 21, 2009

I don’t think she should appear in a Trek movie, unless its TNG. A cameo in a TOS film would feel off. I mentioed in another post that I could see her in a made for TV movie for Enterprise (or even TNG), but thats it as far as a “staring role” goes. As far as feature films go, she should only do it if its a TNG movie. Which I still like to think could happen.

88. Lord Garth, Formerly Of Izar - January 21, 2009

Once again for the love of Holy Jesus ,…NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I hated her lame ass new age hippie commune, character. And thank the Lord we are done with that type of Trek.

89. Joshua J. Slone - January 21, 2009

Really the biggest problem would be that while Guinan didn’t appear to age much from the 19th century through the 24th century… she’d appear to be 10-20 years older in the 23rd century for some reason.

90. sean - January 21, 2009

#39

Whoopi is the moderator on The View, a TV show watched by millions of women every day (a demographic Star Trek has always been in desperate need of). She’s also a multiple Oscar, BAFTA, Emmy, Grammy, Tony & Golden Globe winner. I think she’s pretty ‘mainstream’.

91. Danpaine - January 21, 2009

I suppose having Barklay in there somehow would be a good idea, too? While we’re running down a list of annoying TNG characters….

92. sean - January 21, 2009

#89

Age has been much kinder to Whoopi than it has been to Mr Shatner or Mr Nimoy. I think that’s less of an issue.

93. T'Cal - January 21, 2009

It might’ve worked in ST:XI if she was the one who convinced 24th century Spock that the timeline was contaminated. If she is to be used in a TOS era movie (ST: XII or XIII), then we need a younger actress to play the role of Guinnan.

94. sean - January 21, 2009

#93

It was established in Time’s Arrow that she looks more or less the same, and that takes place in the 19th Century.

95. Closettrekker - January 21, 2009

#93—”It might’ve worked in ST:XI if she was the one who convinced 24th century Spock that the timeline was contaminated.”

Given what we’ve learned in the last couple of days (don’t worry, no spoilers), that might not be true. That might be a different kind of story altogether. Besides, we’ve already seen her play that role in “Yesterday’s Enterprise”.

There has already been a re-telling of sorts in a Star Trek film (TMP) of another episode (”The Changeling”). I’m not sure it would have been such a great idea to tap that well again.

96. Kareem Owete - January 21, 2009

Whoopi in 12? Why not? Cameo appearances by anyone who could conceivably be there without stretching as far as Nimoy’s presence would not hurt a thing.

Give DeLancie a quick cameo scene with just a couple of funny/foreboding lines that leaves the new regular cast asking “What did he mean by that crack?”

Klingons also have longer life spans, as do the worm part of Trills. There are so many cameo possibilities that would fly over a Trek newbie’s head, yet bring a knowing smile to us old-timers.

97. Harry Ballz - January 21, 2009

Goldberg’s a talentless hack! Keep her far away from the new franchise!!

98. Lore - January 21, 2009

This is fresh Trek. We don’t need a rotten tomato in our fresh Trek.

99. sean - January 21, 2009

#97

Harry, I love you buddy, but can you really watch The Color Purple and call her a talentless hack???

100. Brett Campbell - January 21, 2009

97 and 98 — Harry, you’re missing a golden opportunity to respond:

“sean, can you really watch The Color Purple? Period.” Ba-dum-chink!

101. Harry Ballz - January 21, 2009

sean, right back atcha, pal!

I know it’s all subjective, but I can’t stand this woman!

Do you know, apparently for the last few years, some businessman detests her so much, he has offered a reward of $50K if anyone can show him 10 minutes of film where Whoopi is being funny? So far he hasn’t had to pay out!

No joke! Maybe it’s one of those urban legends….

102. Harry Ballz - January 21, 2009

#99 Good one, Brett! Wish I’d thought of it!

103. Brett Campbell - January 21, 2009

101 – Harry, we can’t have good days all the time.

Maybe we can get Whoopi to star in a movie we make and split the $50K three ways. 40% each for you and me, and 20% for her. How about we have her star in “The Oprah Winfrey Story”? My bet is we would collect. ;-)

104. Brett Campbell - January 21, 2009

92 – sean, c’mon. Whoopi turns 54 in November. Shatner and Nimoy are pushing 80.

We’ll see how she looks in 25 years.

105. T'Cal - January 23, 2009

She’s an excellent actress. I just don’t care to hear her political views or that of any celebrity.


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