ST09 Tidbits for: Trek Minus 11 weeks February 16, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
We here at TrekMovie bring you all the big news on the upcoming Star Trek movie, but sometimes stories fall through the cracks. So every week we bring you all the little Star Trek tidbits. This week we have another cadet intro, Frakes longing over Abrams cash, Trek in fashion, and Viacom biz news. Plus a ST09 book update and the first look at a couple of upcoming posters you can actually buy.
Another space cadet
The new Star Trek movie may not have a ‘cast of thousands’, but dozens at least. New ones pop up all the time. In an interview with IGN Tania Gunadi, who stars in the Disney XD series Aaron Stone, talked about her role as a Starfleet Cadet. Gunadi wouldn’t give any spoilers except to say that she plays an alien (and it took four hours to get her makeup on and off), and that everyone, including director JJ Abrams was ‘nice’ and ‘cool’…she also noted that it was nice that they "make sure you can breathe" under the makeup." Which makes one wonder if there was some other production out there purposefully suffocating its actors. .
Gunadi – breathing easy as an alien cadet in "Star Trek"
Frakes: envying the green
In our recent interview, Jonathan Frakes, director of two previous Trek films, talked positively about Star Trek’s new director JJ Abrams, although he admitted he did have some ‘budget envy’ when he visited the set. In a new interview at uninterview the bearded repeated that his is "very pro-J.J. Abrams" and went on to say nice things, but noted regarding the movie "they gave him a fortune [laughs]–not that I’m bitter!"…sure Jonathan.
Frakes’ "no, I am not envious" smile
Trek to the rescue
We interrupt this otherwise entertaining article for some boring business news. Last week Paramount’s parent company Viacom reported a fourth quarter 69% drop in profits…ouch. Well the economy does suck right now and actually the theatrical side of Viacom is doing pretty well, at least in theaters (home sales are down). But all hope is not lost. Viacom chairman Phillipe Dauman told investors that 2009 is going to be rosy, including noting:
Looking ahead, we have a great slate for 2009. Next month we’ll distribute DreamWorks Animations Monsters vs. Aliens in 3-D. In the second and third quarters will be dominated by three widely anticipated tent poles. JJ Abram’s Star Trek, Michael Bay’s, Transformers 2, Revenge of the Fallen, and GI Joe.
So tell a friend about Trek, to keep Viacom and Paramount in the black!
Viacom needs the ‘Star Trek bump’…Tranformers can’t do it all!
Buzzwatch – Trek in fashion?
We at TrekMovie keep an eye out on the mainstream media to see what they are saying about the new movie, so you don’t have to. The latest bit comes from UK’s Independent on Sunday, which, in honor of London Fashion Week, issued their new ‘Hot List‘ and look what showed up somewhere between ‘dial-up tanning’ and ‘hangboarding’:
Star Trek
If you’ve ever wondered how James T Kirk came to captain the SS ‘Enterprise’, you’re in luck (if a bit sad): the 11th ‘Star Trek’ promises to fill in the gaps. And thanks to its director, J J ‘Lost’ Abrams, it may be the first ‘Star Trek’ film for non-Trekkies.
And if there is a fashion event, you know that Star Trek’s new Uhura, Zoe Saldana is there…here she is earlier Sunday, nestled between a couple of super models (Molly Sims & Heidi Klum).
Um, witty caption…I’ll be in my bunk
ST09 stuff update: Posters + book date & price + Foster speaks
The avalanche of Star Trek merchandise continues to grow. The latest addition are the first officially licensed posters to buy, from Trends International. So far they are showing of two designs for the new Star Trek movie, but more are sure to come. These aren’t yet available (and we will update you when they are), but here is a first look at the first two.
Trends USS Enterprise poster (34" x 22")
Trends Crew poster (22" x 34")
After it was first announced at TrekMovie.com, Simon & Shuster added the movie tie-in edition novel of Star Trek to their site. It notes a retail price of $15.00 for the trade paperback and a release date of May 12th. However, TrekMovie is told that S&S dates are always Tuesdays and it is expected for books to be available on Friday the 8th, the day of the film’s release. One other book nugget, the author, Alan Dean Foster, dropped by the TrekMovie.com article about the book to make a couple of comments. On the new book he stated:
I will, as always, put my best into the book version of the film. A novelization is not an adaptation…it is a collaboration between the screenwriters and another writer, and I’ve always viewed it as such.
One thing about adapting a Robert Orci script: it’s not about two uninteresting people sitting on a train smoking cigarettes and talking about how bored they are (that would be a French SF film). There is always a lot going on, which means I have plenty of good stuff to work with.
To paraphrase a comedy team of another era, we’re all fans on this bus.
And to settle any debate, Foster also commented "I had nothing whatsoever to do with the TMP novelization." Nice of Alan to drop by and he has agreed to do a TrekMovie.com interview closer to release, so keep your eye out for that.
Foster has made first contact
Pausch’s Trek lesson
Finally we conclude with some deep thinking. In an article about how Baby boomers have a whole new take on death, Vanity Fair culture critic James Wolcott used the late Randy Pausch’s cameo in the new Star Trek movie as a life (and death) lesson in a new blog post.
A fitting posthumous hurrah awaits Pausch, who died in July of 2008. J. J. Abrams, the director of this spring’s Star Trek prequel (featuring Kirk and Spock at the Starfleet Academy), cast Pausch in a cameo role which has him crossing the bridge of the Enterprise to deliver the clarion line “Captain, we have visual!” For an American nerd born in the second half of the 20th century, suiting up in a Starfleet uniform and serving with Kirk—truly, there can be no higher civilian honor. Since heaven is a hypothetical destination spot, the imaginary airport hangar of the Hereafter, being an even infinitesimal spark in the Star Trek cosmology is the closest any of us can come to immortality.
Deep James, but so true.
JJ made Pausch a ‘Trek immortal’
…one more thing
OK that wasn’t the last thing…sue me. With all the hubbub about the new corridors, our friend (and photojournalist) Thorsten Wulf, came up with this, to maybe satisfy some of those longing for the old days.
Naked Time – reimagined
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Poor old Frakes.
They’re releasing that awful angle as a poster?
I love the Naked Time reimagined pic!!
jesus, we know its the enterprise. taking up half the poster with the word pains me.
Also i will be very much looking for pausch during the movie. Great guy. His TED speech was amazing.
I won’t buy that poster. I will buy one of the hundreds that have better angles that don’t have shuttles in front of them after the movie comes out!
Can’t wait for the movie, even with the “Starship Heart Of Gold” corridors!
Man, Zoe’s a HOTTIE!!!
I’d toss her like a salad (over those supermodels) any day!!
I like the poster of Pine, Quinto and Saldana, but shouldn’t it be Urban instead of her?
“I’ll be in my bunk” – lol. Good stuff.
I dig the re-imagined pic, too.
“I’d toss her like a salad (over those supermodels) any day!!”
You keep l@@king at that picture and you’ll be tossing your own salad!!
Darth “my dressing on YOUR salad” Ballz
That was decent of JJ to have Randy Pausch in on a cameo.
At the risk of repeating myself, I am VERY happy that Alan Dean Foster has been tapped to do this novel. He has forgotten more about Star Trek than most writers will ever learn, and writes along the lines of the unequaled Star Trek insider who drafted more parts of Spock’s character than everyone else combined – including Roddenberry, D.C. Fontana.
Much of this movie, I should add, is the twisted timeline version of the old novel by Fontana called “Vulcan’s Glory.” I actually think Dorothy Fontana would appreciate the nod. If anyone out there knows where D.C. Fontana is or how she’s doing, tell her hi and we’re thinking of her.
I just ordered the Art of The Watchmen book and in the recent past made it a once-every-three years rite buying the beautiful Star Wars prequel Art books. It disappoints me greatly that there’s no such tome on the horizon for the new TREK. Perhaps if it’s a hit we’ll see one next Christmas — with the amount of design work involved, there’s got to be a good collection there (along with script notes, that’d be aces).
@ Anthony
You are a brave man.I would not dare to use a picture of Heidi at
the moment.
I hope you have good connections to Denny Crane or Sam Cogley :)
7— yeah I agree with you. Uhura is great and all, but TOS was all about the Big Three of Kirk, Spock and Bones… “Damnit Jim I’m a Doctor, not a______!” and all that.
As for that Enterprise poster, I believe the only people who will buy that will be those who wish to use it as a dartboard.
Zoe with Heidi…
fascinating.
Heidi just started the new season of her “Germanys Next Topmodel” show on german TV…
And really nice that ADF showed by and made an insightful comment about the quality of Bob Orcis work.
xD–that Naked Time ripoff with Quinto in the pic…wow bad photoshopping on the quinto part…also: it kinda gave a sylaresque vibe there (not the message on the wall but the way it was written…rewatch early heroes episodes for why…)
also…anthony (pascale)…about James Cawley’s quote about Randy Pausch…your little addon below it…”Deep James, but so true.”…is EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE to those among us who are not atheists and DO believe in Heaven…it actually borders on hate speech against ALL religions in that your statement is “Deep James, but so true.”, rather than “Deep James, but IN MY OPINION, so true.”
I’m not attacking you…I’m merely saying in case you didnt realuze this its extemely offensive since in saying Jame’s quote referencing Randy’s quote WAS TRUE, you’re basically saying all religions are fantasy, just like Star Trek itself…
please amend your comment appropriately; thank you.
ON A SIDE NOTE: in case no one was aware, remember The 5th Dimension’s ‘The Age of Aquarius’ song, which was releasedaround the time TOS was on? THE ASTROLOGICAL ALIGNMENT THE SONG SPEAKS OF OCCURRED ON THIS PAST VALENTINES DAY… WE –ARE IN– THE AGE OF AQUARIUS!!!
@ 17 – What the hell?! Speaking also as a “non-athiest” I can say that what you just said was utter bollocks, and everything that Anthony said was totally fine! Noting you suggest is implied by Anthony, and in no way what so ever is it extremely offensive…get some perspective mate!
Anywho, all good news here! Good to see the cast is being fleshed out as well! I like the Cawley quote, I can imagine how much of an honour it must be to be a Trek extra/cameo! The posters are extremely disappointing though, looks like a quick photoshop job!!
#7: Absolutely!
#15
— yeah I agree with you. Uhura is great and all, but TOS was all about the Big Three of Kirk, Spock and Bones… “Damnit Jim I’m a Doctor, not a______!” and all that.
If they make Saldana the new “McCoy”, her best line will probably be “Damnit guys, I’m a communications officer, not a wonderbra model.”
I Am so excited.
The new look of the corridors are fine. This movie is not for purists, whom not to be too offensive must learn to relax. Emulating a Vulcan has its advantages, but though in a little Klingon from time to time and have a laugh.
I am very pleased with the uniforms, that was great. The actors are wonderful. The Ship is true to form, the bridge is true. I cannot understand the negative comments. This is a wonderful event and I cannot wait for this movie. Already saving up for the merchandise. Go JJ.
I also agree with no. 7, all the characters should get their fair level of attention, but I would love to see the triangle of Kirk, Spock and McCoy be at the heart of the show.
@21…
Don’t worry, South African Dude. That poster proves nothing.
Nero may have changed Kirks childhood and youth, but not his friendship with McCoy. They meet right when Kirk enters the shuttle to Academy, and stay friends. When Kirk is in trouble three years later for faking his way through the Maru scenario, its Bones who smuggles him aboard the Enterprise. There they meet Uhura, but she is never as close as Bones with Jim. With Spock added to the trio later.
The posters are horrible. Use the worst angle of the E and those badly composed and lit crew shots and expect to cash in? Not with my money.
It’s amazing how much Quinto looks like Nimoy in that “Love Man Kind” pic.
Can’t wait for those posters!
#17: bad photoshop?
Get over yourself. The poster is supposed to be fun. Must we over-analyze every single image and word??? Just have some fun and relax…
(on my way home now… first leg [of four] is complete)
Wow, stop the Comm traffic, Nr. 22
How come you know so much? Did you see the movie, do you know people. Do you like Gold pressed Latinum???
I’m quite envious.
Thanks for the re assurance
@26…
Hey, Doug, have a safe flight home!
@27…
You’re welcome, SAD…
your answer is here:
http://tinyurl.com/c848co
thorsten- Hehe… like the corridor pic.
29, thorsten
Yeah okay, I did read that article.
What surpised me is your knowledge of the Kobiyashi Maru and the passage of three years. Did not pick up on that.
But again thanks.
@17 – you might re-read the article.
“Vanity Fair culture critic James Wolcott …”
The quote had nothing to do with Cawley.
Well, there actually _are_ some reports of people fainting under make-up because they could not breathe properly (remember, it’s _really_ hot on set… i think i even read about some coustume/mask redesigns on TNG cause of that on Memory Alpha) or actors almost dying of anaphylactic shock caused by allergies to make-up (they had to re-cast the Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz cause of that..), so Tania has every reason to be grateful ^^
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Nice firefly reference / lesbian innuendo in-joke ^^
#5
When Trekmovie first posted the horrible angle but nicely detailed image of the new Enterprise, I decided to have a go at taking the shuttle out.
If you are interested, the result of my tinkering you may find at http://tinyurl.com/de5ne7 (be careful the file size is quite large)
For a comparison, here is the image I worked from http://tinyurl.com/an2oxh (again, be careful, the file size is quite large)
Enjoy!
It really should have been “Deep, James, but I believe it to be true.”
Then you place yourself on the same ground as those that do believe. taking something by faith. It takes as much faith to believe in nothing as it does in something.
I’m not offended, just reminded that those who reject notions of an afterlife often try to take the high ground and the assumption of being right, when in fact, none will know but those who experience it.
#17
Who says Anthony is referring to the latter half of the quote? What if he’s agreeing with “For an American nerd born in the second half of the 20th century, suiting up in a Starfleet uniform and serving with Kirk—truly, there can be no higher civilian honor…”?
I can’t believe that no one here has yet complained that the British newspaper called the ship the “SS” Enterprise.
All the nitpicking and no one caught that?
Y’all are slipping.
And just to clarify, those who do believe just as often take the high ground and the assumption is it true. Both can only say “I believe” this or that, and hope they are right.
@ 26 – I wasn’t over analysing anything…and I know its just a bit of fun, but for a comercial release poster that could of been made by any tom, dick or harry! I mean its the official release image of the Enterprise with the word ‘USS Enterprise’ out underneath! I am not over analysing, just saying its not very adventurous…geesh, so much for freedom of speech!
Safe journey anyways!
Why would they release a poster where the Enterprise doesn’t even fit inside the border? They should’ve waited for a better promo shot to use, one that doesn’t chop the tips off, at least. That just looks silly.
I was hoping you meant they’d be selling the blue and gold teaser posters, anyway. Those were nice; I’d love if they started putting those out into stores.
17. kirk09
Who cares if it was “extremely offensive” to you? Not me. This is not PC Central!
The “other” Anthony
See I bet nemesis would have been a great movie with a $150 million for a budget, but we would have also needed new producers and writers.
Why should we care at all whether or not Paramount’s in the black? They’re still gonna make another Trek if the droves come out to see it.
Maybe if they lower the average ticket price then I’ll start to care a little more.
#42
“See I bet nemesis would have been a great movie with a $150 million for a budget, but we would have also needed new producers and writers.”
Oh is that all. Why didn’t someone think of that before? ;)
11 weeks, can’t wait! :)
PS. I find ANYONE harping on about faith highly offensive, yet in day to day living it is constantly in my face, I constantly hear how I, who “do not believe”, will face all manner of pain and suffering for eternity, it offends me greatly to be subjected to this, maybe, out of respect, those fearful idiots should keep their personal terror to themselves. I would like to remain level headed and rational.
I have stared down my own death a few times now, needless to say, death blinked first and I am still here, I intend to remain as long as my body holds out. I have no fear of “afterlife” because none exists.
However, that FACT is not frightening, it will not cajole me into fearful worship of some invisible non-existent “all powerful” deity, born from the mind of men to ease their own fears, and control the fears of others.
or to quote a sage scholar
“Get a Life!”
20. Iowagirl – February 16, 2009:
‘15
— yeah I agree with you. Uhura is great and all, but TOS was all about the Big Three of Kirk, Spock and Bones… “Damnit Jim I’m a Doctor, not a______!” and all that.’
My thoughts exactly! Why is Uhura featured so prominently, on all the advertising? Is this what the new film is like; i.e., the triumvirate of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, which was the backbone of the original series, the very essence of that show, is to be recast: Kirk, Spock, and Uhura! Changing the aesthetics of the ship is one thing; changing the show’s dynamic, its essential nature, is quite another.
Uhura is a communications officer; she doesn’t have a very important position on the ship. To keep her as a communications officer and yet give her a prominent role in the film (larger than that befitting a communications officer), then, is at best odd and out of place. At worst, it’s racist and or sexist: to treat her differently for no other reason that because of her sex or skin colour. By this reasoning, Sulu, for example, should have third billing: I know he’s just a lieutenant (and played a small role in TOS) but, since he’s Asian, let’s give him third billing behind Kirk and Spock.
The people of “Trends International” used the images available. There are no other shots of the ship or the crew out yet. So they stitched the portraits of Kirk, Spock and Uhura together, because they were available as single images. I am quite sure that pictures with the “real” triumvirat will be available soon. As I said in 22, Uhura is not replacing Bones in this movie.
“So tell a friend about Trek, to keep Viacom and Paramount in the black!”
Must run and out and tell a friend to go see Star Trek so Viacom doesn’t loose anymore profits!
Hmmm gonna be hard jumping over all those homeless and unemployed people along the way tho….
Really guys that was obscene, there are alot more harder hit folks who really need help in this economic crisis than a multi-billion dollar company that is still profitable none the less. Disgusting.
It’s good to see that we have the obligatory killjoys who are trying to ruin a perfectly good article.
#39: no problems, nor worries… however, you mention that anyone could have photoshopped in USS Enterprise (this is true), but in your original post you didn’t refer to that poster but the one with Quinto in it.
didn’t mean to be hyper-critical, maybe just a bit of sleep depravation here…
Why does the novel need to be a trade paperback?
Is there supllemental material?
#17: not to beat you up or anything, but where did James Cawley come from in this subject?
The only James mentioned in the article is film critic James Wolcott.
seriously though, everyone have a nice day…
Ok. The UKs Hotlist called it the S.S Enterprise. Hmm looks like someone needs to do more reserch into Trek. will buy the new Posters. Zoe looks hot and i love her company. kool we will all have a chance to chat with Mr Foster. Can’t wait. Anthony. You guys are simply outdoing your selves. Thank you for anohter top notch article.
I also want to say how excited it made me to see there are only 11 weeks left. Not much longer now! :)
For my athiestic friends, don’t get all hot under the collar.
It’s simple:
If you’re right, you’ll never know it. If you’re wrong… aaaiiieee!!
If I’m wrong, I’ll never know it. If I’m right…yahoooooo!
Not equal there at all.
Just a little humor there for ya.
@ 50 – Aaaaaah yes I see your point, no I was impressed with the Quinto job, was a good juxtaposition between TOS episode and now, I was referring to the Enterprise poster, I do apologise for the confusion!
As for the Cawley thing, I was meerly referencing #17 original post to where he refers to Crawley, so I fear I have perpetuated a mistake, to clarify further, I was disagreeing with #17’s (kirk09) religiously misplaced rambling and his completely unfounded attack on Anthony!
I’m still disappointed that Gabrielle Union didn’t get to be Uhura. I think she would have fit the role much better.., and the uniform!
17. kirk09 –
“also…anthony (pascale)…about James Cawley’s quote about Randy Pausch…your little addon below it…”Deep James, but so true.”…is EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE to those among us who are not atheists and DO believe in Heaven…it actually borders on hate speech against ALL religions in that your statement is “Deep James, but so true.”, rather than “Deep James, but IN MY OPINION, so true.” ”
“ON A SIDE NOTE: in case no one was aware, remember The 5th Dimension’s ‘The Age of Aquarius’ song, which was releasedaround the time TOS was on? THE ASTROLOGICAL ALIGNMENT THE SONG SPEAKS OF OCCURRED ON THIS PAST VALENTINES DAY… WE –ARE IN– THE AGE OF AQUARIUS!!!”
Okay so you’re an (easily-offended) non-athiest who believes in heaven *and* astrology?? “EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE”? More like extremely confusing.
12-
As far as novel analogies to the movie, has anyone read Della Van Hise’s “Killing Time”?
I know it was subsequently revised to remove alleged “K/S” undertones, but the plot: A Romulan scheme to create “Second History”, or an alternate universe. In Second History, the Federation and Starfleet are different, and Kirk is a despondent confused and lowly ensign on Spock’s ship!
Romulans? Second History? Pretty close, eh?
kirk09 – #17….you’re a tool.
17. kirk09 … I initially set out to say the same thing as 60 danpaine above. But the thing is, Frederick’s comments are even more ignorant and offensive.
The two of you kirk09 and Frederick, and your kind, do more to alienate rational people from Abrahamic faiths than any other single factor. Nobody wants your sanctimonious comments and they endear your faith to no one. Censorship is extremely offensive to me as an American and as a Trekkie.
Funny, because Star Trek and nearly all of science fiction negate Abrahamic faiths. But someone’s casual turn of phrase is more offensive to you than the notion of life proliferating throughout the galaxy without being mentioned in the Hebrew bible… and the depiction of the principle races [Vulcans, Klingons etc.] as being totally without faith or an analog to Abrahamic faith. Moreover, Star Trek consistently debunks religion, depicts religion as ignorant and divisive, and even introduces the idea that a Human could be accepted as the Prophet on an alien world… or that powerful aliens could have visited Earth and inspired the Greek pantheon, and that the so-called god who was the half-human son of the father of the gods [Apollo aka Jesus] was in fact a horny, petulant alien with a fondness for toga miniskirts.
Seriously, if you love your G-d and your religion, set a better example… then stop watching blasphemous Science Fiction and save the Fantasy talk for another blog.
…
And Frederick, Gabrielle Union is hot, but she’s both too smiley and too bitchy to be Uhura, who is more pensive, mysterious and confident.
17. Kirk09
I’m not sure exactly where the offense is taken. I myself am a very religious person having grown up all around the church studying texts and so forth and I don’t see where the problem is. Perhaps I am reading it wrong, but huh? Anyway, I prefer to keep my faith and entertainment separate. Personally, I would rather not know who believes in what here. I come here to talk about and learn about the latest in Trek and not to discuss religion. I feel like I do that enough and think about it enough anyway! So lets just end the spirituality discussion here.
61 – I concur that #17 sounds like a tool. Mostly for the Astrology stuff.
However, expressing criticism or denouncing somthing is NOT censorship. The Right is called all kinds of names for being judgmental, but rarely are their moral denouncements acted upon. Someone being judgemental does not impede your rights.
It is almost always the LEFT and the Seculars who actually take concrete steps to actually outlaw free speech and opinions which are considered politcally incorrect.
#17 – “also…anthony (pascale)…about James Cawley’s quote about Randy Pausch…”
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Seeing as James CAWLEY had no comment on Randy in the article, this is moot.
7. Capt. Roykirk – February 16, 2009
I like the poster of Pine, Quinto and Saldana, but shouldn’t it be Urban instead of her?
My thoughts exactly… We still haven’t seen the three of them side by side! What’s up with that? >:-(
Those who, like myself, feel that this should be kept to comments about the topic, that is, no religion, that fact that it was brought up in the post itself opens it up to comments. It’s not like we derailed it with unwarrented discussion.
“I’ll be in my bunk”
Is that a Firefly reference? I hope so. I love that show.
#46. Alec
Bravo! Couldn’t have said it better… To me, this is just a pitiful attempt to attract a mass of horny teenagers by baiting them with Uhura even though her role in the series was very secondary compared to McCoy. This is soooo lame…
If you’ve ever wondered how James T Kirk came to captain the SS ‘Enterprise’, you’re in luck (if a bit sad): the 11th ‘Star Trek’ promises to fill in the gaps — YES, fill in the gaps in an alternate universe never seen before! As of this film, WE STILL DON’T KNOW HOW THE REAL JAMES T KIRK CAME TO CAPTAIN THE ENTERPRISE.
#68 – actually, I think it is wrong of you to attempt to keep Uhura in that position. That is one thing a new franchise can change, more focus on the secondary characters WITHOUT violating canon. If there is anything about TNG I liked (and there is very little) it is that over the 7 years it was on, they gave almost equal time to every character, though God knows in some cases they shouldn’t have. The net result was to make them all much more human and identifiable to their audience.
That re-imagined TOS: “Naked Time” pic was great. Ahhh… the memories. (Wait — I just saw that episode last week. Hehe.)
“Since heaven is a hypothetical destination spot, the imaginary airport hangar of the Hereafter, being an even infinitesimal spark in the Star Trek cosmology is the closest any of us can come to immortality.”
I disagree with this completely.
Uh, unless, of course, the author is a completely incorporeal being. At that point, even so, I’d be asking lots of questions.
As far as Gabrielle Union, it may be that the kind of roles she has played are what some are seeing; as an actress she may have well been able to portray the centered, cool, classy Uhura. I’m not one to sterotype an actor just because all we have see so far is a certian kind of character.
But I’m simply basing my desire to see her as Uhura on her looks and figure, it may be that Zoe pulls it off perfectly.
Is that Frakes or Rick Warren?
Love that poster! Solo Saldana plz!
-cs™
I think its funny how easily offended some people are about silly stuff. I mean the religious person gets offended at a quote seen against religion on a star trek site and decides to complain, and then the athiest who sees the complaint decides to offer a “stop watching blasphemous Science Fiction and save the Fantasy talk for another blog.” laden rebuttal…….cmon really? there are better places to talk about this stuff then Trekmovie.com. I happen to be a very religious person but there is a time and place for expression and no offense #17 but this may not be it. And #45, just because the fact that we think there is a heaven offends you doesnt mean u need to be offensive about it. Its a Star Trek site people! Talk about trek, im sure Anthony would appriciate it.
I can’t help but be bothered with Uhura getting more face time than Bones.
Dammit Jim!
Meh. If I buy any more Star Trek posters they’ll be of the TOS cast. Though you already can’t see my walls from all the posters I already have so I don’t really have room in any case.
#59 –
“Killing Time” was awesome.
I hadn’t even made the connection to ST09. Thanks.
‘JTK, luck walks with you.’
You know, I really would have liked to see the Next Gen film series with a little more support than the studio was willing to give.
“KIlling Time” was pulled from the shelves in order not to steal the thunder from the time-traveling ST 4, if I recall. It was a good book, taking it out of print seemed a bit drastic.
45
It’s completely sad how absolutely wrong you are.
immortal redshirt
Star Trek has consistently engaged religion, politics and other things that you’re not supposed to talk about at the dinner table. Why should these boards be limited to a geek’s or youngster’s read of Star Trek?
Fact is, I am a geek and I am a person who appreciates the questions raised by Star Trek–religious, political, etc. I never said I was an atheist, but I did make an excellent point about the TOS episode “Who Mourns for Adonais?”
Scan through these boards. It’s never the secularists or atheists or geeks who introduce religion and judgements… except maybe Star Trek V… it’s almost always a conservative Christian, attempting to shame Anthony or another poster for their statements.
Personally, I’d love to see a whole board dedicated to religion and Trek. The franchise’s posture toward religion is worthy of debate, and hearing different points of view would actually enrich the experience. If you’re a person of deep Abrahamic faith, you love Star Trek, and you feel it’s compatible, I’d love to know how and why.
46. Alec
“to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before” you’re going to need an incredibly competent communications officer and exolinguist.
I agree with you and I want to see Bones front and center, but to minimize the importance of Uhura’s job is a bit naive. If anything, it’s the dramatic license taken by use of the Universal Translator that’s minimized her importance.
If this new Star Trek is going to be “realistic,” then Romulan and other alien mouths should not be moving in sync with the English translations. That’s the single biggest tech in all of Star Trek, and everyone ignores it. But if were depicted properly and the Universal Translator didn’t always work perfectly, you’d have a much different assessment of Uhura.
gosh, kirk09.
although your opinion is strange and seems misguided to me, i would hardly ask you to modify your beliefs on my part. so leave that arrogant crap outside the forum, please babee jeezus.
btw, shatner is in fact the creator. ask v’ger.
# 55 So it’s all about the odds then? Interesting…
#46 I believe you’re looking for the Hannity loves Rush website.
And #63 It’s the left and seculars who threaten our speech and thoughts huh? By labeling people I suppose, based on their race, religion, politics, lifestyle, etc. That’s and interesting take on history, unless of course you consider the last 2000 years.
you know I think some people are taking these ‘tidbits’ articles a bit too seriously…and some are taking it waaay to seriously. These ‘omnibus’ articles, like ‘great links’ and ‘celeb watch’ take a lighter tone….so lighten up and relax
Well, so far, I’d say the average age of emotional maturity here is 12. It would be interesting to know the actual average age here. I’ll bet it’s much higher.
As for the triumvirate of Kirk Spock and Bones not being on the poster, I think this is a pretty obvious attempt by Paramount to appeal to the babe factor, but also to let women know that this is a different kind of Star Trek. It has always been a struggle for Trek to garner female fans, much more so than Star Wars. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve beefed up Zoe’s role for that very purpose.
It’s marketing, folks. This poster wasn’t made for old fans of Trek; it’s for the future fans. Personally, it doesn’t bother me.
Jeffries tuber
I am a lifelong, born and raised Trekkie and they are many times I disagree with the writting on trek, but in the same way that I disagree with any movie orTV show with a worlview other than mine, I am still able to find the show fascinating and entertaining. I do not look to star trek to be philisophically challenged I watch it to be uplifted and entertained. I enjoy when star trek adresses religion but I do not become offended when the comments do not line up with my views. Although I do feel like religion is sometes treated as obsolete in roddenberrys universe, I did enjoy all of DS9 which explored both side of the argument (”secular” – starfleet as opposed to the religious bajorans)
84- moauvian moaul-
I have the right to criticize, ridicule, and denounce your beliefs, as you do mine. That is called free speech. The Left does this just as much as the Right. No one’s rights are harmed by the other side exercising theirs.
But when you look at real legislative actions that actually restrict freedom, you will not find any Gun laws, Campus speech codes, or Hate Crime definitions that restrict what the Left does or thinks.
All the banning and outlawing (as opposed to denouncing and condeming) always seems to come from the Left. It stems from their inate fear that wicked greedy people will beat them up and take their lunch money unless a wise and powerful state protects every experience in their lives.
Frakes looks kinda like Orson Welles in that photo. . . between the beard & the maniacal grin.
I mean, not to change the subject or anything. Unless you all would rather argue ideology.
My only complaint about Abrams’ Enterprise is that I wish the neck of the ship was just a little bit more forward on the hull instead of appearing smack-dab in the middle. But the ship looks fantastic in the “head-on” views I’ve seen.
That’s funny, Thorsten.
#17—-Why so sensitive?
@92…
hey, thanks CT!
Anthony could we have a list of who has cameos in the film? (James Cawley, Chris Doohan, etc)
88 Are you suggesting that Hate Crime Legislation is threatening your constitutional rights? Exactly what rights do you wish to exercise? I don’t recall suggesting anyone impinge on your rights and humbly suggest you conveniently hear what has not be said to bolster your unnecessary moral declaration. Your views are not oppressed. When the Founding Fathers guaranteed our rights they were not protecting us from the Communists, or the Liberals. When religious groups governed Europe for centuries they were not Liberal, nor are those who govern much of the Middle East and Central Asia today. And it is not the Liberals who wish to change the our constitution to ban citizens from living their lives as they choose. How American. I am not a Liberal but historically it is clear where the threat comes from. And I might suggest the historically subjugated and disenfranchised, which again I am neither, are not simply fearful of losing their lunch money, as you imply. There is a big history out there, you should check it out. There are more rights than the right to blow things up. Na-nu Na-nu.
oh, and then there’s Edith Keeler….
17. It’s actually a little hard for me to believe that you we’re so deeply offended by such an innocuous comment, but I’ll have to take you at your word. In any case, it’s interesting to me that you assume because Mr. Wolcott does not believe in Heaven that he does not believe in God, that he is an atheist. One does not have to believe in Heaven to believe in God. And describing Mr. Pascale’s comment as bordering on “hate speech against ALL religions” is simply beyond the pale. The mere fact that you find the comment offensive does not make it “hate speech.” Sorry to burst your shrill, self-important little bubble, but the rest of us are still allowed to express our opinions even when they conflict with yours.
Aren’t there other web sites for rabid idealogues and religious zealots? I thought this was a Star Trek site. Maybe I’m mistaken.
In that case… Star Trek rules!!! At least TOS. I hope I didn’t just start something.
99,
Well, when you bait them with news items posted containing a comment that is inflammatory to a whole section of readers, you can expect some kind of response. At least none threatened jihad or strapped a bomb to a woman and sent them among you. I think the response was measured and calm from the believers compared to the slurs and insults from the haters.
So, when the Star Trek news invokes the discussion as it did this time, be not surprised when it is commented on, either way.
The comment is not in the least inflammatory or baiting. I happen to be a believer in God and an afterlife, and anybody being insulted by this was looking for an insult. Some people just have to start a fight.
Anthony, I’ve asked before and I’ll ask again. Please permaban me. I don’t want to be tempted to come back here and argue with a bunch of twelve-year olds. I don’t know how you put up with them. I hope you’re making some good money to babysit on the internet.
I didn’t bother to read the comments in the middle, but I did read the first couple, then the last couple. I’m glad you people aren’t my navigators, or I’d be way off course.
For the record, I am a Christian man. I know what I believe and, yes, I get irritated when others ridicule that which I hold sacred. However, any response should be tempered through the prism of love, not a megaphone of hatred.
Star Trek, especially TOS, has moments both ways when it comes to the existence of a single sovreign God (don’t think so–check out “Who Mourns For Adnoais?”). ST requires no religious background to be enjoyed, nor does having one prevent a person from being a serious Trekkie.
Star Trek’s creators went out of their way not to take a specific side nor to offend its viewers by trumpeting one outlook at the expense of another. I suggest everyone on this site who truly believes in the IDIC principle would do well to be more tolerant of other views.
As to the long-known stance taken by Gene Roddenberry on Christianity, I am aware of it. I am also conviced that he now knows he was wrong. And I am sure Gene Coon is available to explain it to him should he still be confused.
Let’s let the personal attacks disappear with the election ads and get back to jouyously anticipating ST09–I know I sure am.
lol you guys are getting way too worked up
I wonder who had the bright idea of trying to make the Triad Kirk, Spock and …Uhura?
For dramtic reasons, it simply won’t work. Spock is the Logical Response,
McCoy the Emotional Response and Kirk finds the balance between the two to solve the problem.
It is the dramatic seed from which Trek grew.
I hope the poster is just meant to grab the attentions horny teens and has very little to do with actual plot structure..
106,
We saw the same thing on the poster for ST:TMP… Kirk, Spock, and… Ilia! Even further out from the triad and not even a known regular character. It’s just to raise a little more interest with an exotic female face.
61 – It is astonishing that an omnipresent omnipotent immortal superbeing would take any offence to the remarks of James Wolcott, or to Pascale’s ambiguous follow-on, but there you go. The bigger they are…
Incidentally, it is canonical that Star Trek is non-believing in the Christian Bible.
McCoy says: “According to myth, the Earth was created in 6 days. Now, watch out. Here comes Genesis. We’ll do it for you in 6 minutes.”
McCoy ought to have said, “according to the heretical doubts of secularists, at whom I take extreme and grievous offense.”