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ST09 Costume Designer Talks Star Trek – Then And Now February 26, 2009

by Edward Gross , Filed under: ST09 Creative,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

For costume designer on the new Star Trek movie, JJ Abrams went to someone he hadn’t worked with before, Michael Kaplan. In a new interview in SciFi Now the veteran designer talks about what it was like in that first meeting with Abrams, how he put together the film’s costumes, and more. Excerpts below.

 

Kaplan: new eyes – but did his Trek homework
Michael Kaplan is an award winning costume designer who has worked in Hollywood for three decades, starting off with the landmark sci-fi film Blade Runner in 1982. Yet when he went in to his first meeting with JJ Abrams, he wasn’t sure how it was going to work out. In my interview for SciFiNow, Kaplan said:

I went into that meeting thinking I had a huge problem and disclosed to him that I hadn’t seen any of the Star Trek movies and knew the TV series, but just because I was growing up during that time, not because I was an avid fan. He felt that was a plus, because he wanted something really fresh. He wanted new eyes.

In their early discussions, the costume designer expressed his feelings regarding many “futuristic movies,” and the fact that he simply didn’t buy it when a new colony of people would be dressed in Biblical, Greek, Roman or Egyptian costumes. Kaplan noted:

I told him it would be really fun to create a whole new world, yet do an homage to the TV show, because that’s where our world in Star Trek would end. There were certain things we wanted to be recognizable. Updated, but not done away with, like the Enterprise costumes. There’s a ‘60s sensibility I thought was important to keep intact. It was really about finding a balance. I would do some sketching and say, ‘I love this costume idea, but it doesn’t feel like Star Trek,’ and we would abandon it. A design could have been more Star Wars, for example. There’s a vocabulary that was needed, and, of course, I studied the Star Trek Encyclopedia.


Kaplan wanted to keep that ’60s sensibility’ with the crew uniforms

Star Trek’s new costume designer also went into detail on creating the new version of the classic TOS uniform:

I wanted to do something more sophisticated than they had done on the TV series, so I created a new fabric where a pattern of the boomerang logo was utilized. You’ll also see that there is now a black shirt that’s a part of the uniform. Back on the TV show, it was all one piece. This is like the undershirt and uniform is on top of that. It made sense to me that the uniform would have an undershirt, and that it would still be consistent. The shirt is a dark charcoal gray, as are the pants, and the color of the jumpers describe what that person’s job is.

For more of my interview with Kaplan, pick up a copy of SciFi Now #24 (available for to purchase online).

 

 

Edward Gross is a sci-fi journalist and contributor to multiple magazines, including Geek Monthly, SciFi Now and SFX.

Visit Ed’s new website VisitorsAmongUs.com, with all the latest news on “V,” both then and now. The 1980s’ science fiction phenomenon “V” is returning on two fronts, first as a pilot for a proposed ABC series produced by The 4400’s Scott Peters, and then as a feature film in development by concept originator Kenneth Johnson.

Comments

1. thorsten - February 26, 2009

SciFi Now?
Looks almost real!

2. Antni - February 26, 2009

i love the new uniforms :)

3. issjim - February 26, 2009

away team jackets like in the Cage?

4. Closettrekker - February 26, 2009

“Edward Gross is a sci-fi journalist and contributor to multiple magazines, including Geek Monthly, SciFi Now and SFX. ”

If he hasn’t contributed to “Nacelles Monthly”—-he’s a hack! Anybody who’s anybody gets at least one article there.

:)

5. Spockalicious - February 26, 2009

the new uni’s kinda look like Nike Dri-Fit workout shirts…

6. Anthony Pascale - February 26, 2009

be nice, this is Ed’s first article at TM….and Ed was interviewing ST folks before some readers here were born, so he is certainly qualified to write for Nacelles Monthly

7. thorsten - February 26, 2009

boomerang logo…
fascinating.

8. CS.Blewis - February 26, 2009

Oooh the cannonista’s aren’t gonna like that now, 2 shirts instead of ONE? BLASPHEMY!!!!

9. cpelc - February 26, 2009

Cool. Is this a different guy than the article you were working on from the source I sent you Anthony?

10. Chroma - February 26, 2009

@3: I hope so. I love that idea.

11. buddykarl - February 26, 2009

I’ve started to see a running trend with UK mags that come from the same publishing group(Imagine Publishing)…all of the mastheads have the same or similiar sans font used for the title of it. I started noticing this when I was buying from their stable of mags, but it works because I automatically know who publishes it….maybe that was the point all along…

12. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

#6 – Man, that just makes me sound SO old. Anyway, Nacelles Monthly won’t return my calls. What’s up with that?

13. Closettrekker - February 26, 2009

Welcome Ed!

First of many… I hope.

14. buddykarl - February 26, 2009

#8 they shouldn’t get too ballistic over it because in some of the early TOS episodes, they showed them wearing a dark charcoal undershirt as well.

15. Toothless Grishnar Cat - February 26, 2009

I wonder how much an influence Bill Theiss’ style was? Classic designs.

16. Will - February 26, 2009

The new uniform is about the only thing I’m totally on-board with, though, honestly, the screened on “boomerang” as he called it is a bit too predominant for my tastes(from what I’ve seen). It just reeks of the brick pattern on Spiderman’s jumpsuit or the over-use of the Superman S symbol on the chest S in Superman Returns(where it was an embedded texture).

Oh well, at least this guy gets when something doesn’t look or feel Star Trek. It’s too bad that sensibility couldn’t have been brought to the new phaser.

17. weerd1 - February 26, 2009

Let me geek for a while and say that TOS actually, if you watch the episode “The Naked TIme” demonstrated the black collars on the old uniforms were in fact a black undershirt. So, intentionally or no, he is conforming with the original.

They continually refer to the outfit as the “Enterprise Uniform.” I wonder if they stuck with the idea of individual emblems. Maybe other fleet uniforms have their specific emblems worked into the fabric as well, and not everyone has delta shields…

18. Holger - February 26, 2009

Michael Kaplan seems to care a lot about respecting TOS style. I appreciate that!

One comment: There was a black t-shirt under the TOS uniforms, as seen in The Naked Time. It seems it was only a personal habit of Kirk to wear nothing under.

19. The TOS Purist aka The Purolator - February 26, 2009

Well, he’s right that the boomerang logo was the Starfleet logo of the TOS era, but that’s not what’s in the uniforms. The uniforms have the Enterprise “arrowhead” badge woven into them (which looks really, REALLY stupid, by the way), added to the fact that this movie uses the Enterprise arrowhead as the TOS Starfleet logo (when it was the boomerang!).

I don’t mind the black-shirt-under-the-tunic thing, because that’s how I always interpreted the TOS uniforms anyway. I just don’t like that cheesy logo-weave.

20. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

Wonderful article Ed. Was a great read.

21. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

#20 – Thanks! I appreciate the compliment.

22. thorsten - February 26, 2009

@12…
Next time call my cell, Ed!

23. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

Its too bad the prop guys aren;t as skilled. Has anyone seen THIS on the bridge..its a BAR CODE scanner..they didn’t even try to dress it up/down:-S
Im APPALLED at how lazy they got here..I wonder what else we’d see..totally ruins it for me…

http://blockheadpictures.com/images/misc/trek001.jpg

24. Jefferies Tuber - February 26, 2009

I always thought the key to the TOS uniforms was the calf-high pants and high zippered boots.

The high tech fabric with the boomerang logo looks like it’s descended from ENT MACO uniforms.

It also seems like they’ve reverse-engineered the TWOK military-style uniforms by making ‘Rust Red’ the color of a Starfleet Academy.

25. Star Trackie - February 26, 2009

Yeah, black undershirts are nothing new and I love it that they are incorporated into the new design, intentional or not. Don’t care for the mini “boomerangs” but it’s a minor quibble.

And as far as Edward Gross goes, his Captain’s Log was one of the best, most informative and unbiased books on the Trek series that I’ve ever read. Welcome aboard Ed, here’s to many more contributions to this site!

26. Spockalicious - February 26, 2009

#23 –

maybe they need the bar code scanners for ‘quick check out’ when somebody buys an iPod…??

27. Holger - February 26, 2009

17: The black collars were actually sewn on the uniform tunic, the t-shirt collar was invisible under the tunic.
Just google some pics of the original props, there you can see it. You can also see in the actual TV footage that the shoulder zipper goes through the collar.

28. starbase63 - February 26, 2009

Actually, the two shirt style isn’t unheard of…McCoy wore one in TOS.

They got the straight-edged rank braid right for the time period…the cut of the tunic…the departmental colors and insignia inside the delta…just don’t know why they couldn’t go with gold instead of silver. One small thing…

My only real peeve is the delta logo all over the shirt…smacks of Brandon Routh’s costume in “Superman Returns” with all the little “S” emblems all over it.

29. Star Trackie - February 26, 2009

#23 “Im APPALLED at how lazy they got here..I wonder what else we’d see..totally ruins it for me…”

Too bad, for millions more, like myself, who don’t know a barcode scanner from a protomatter disconbobulator, they won’t think twice about it.

The practice is really nothing new. One of the props from Ghostbusters was a shoe polisher. The silverware on TOS was nothing but airline flatware and we all know about the salt shakers. No big deal really.

30. thorsten - February 26, 2009

The Playmates toys copy the Uniform Delta pattern on the boxes, btw…

31. thorsten - February 26, 2009

And about those barcode scanners,
the most famous german SciFi series,
“Raumpatrouille, 1966″, featured Electric Irons
on the bridge!

32. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#29. Yes I know ILM has kitbashed for years starting on Star wars, but at least they should add a few thingymabobs onto it to disguise it, this is literally right off the shelf!!! I mean at least add a Star Fleet logo to it or something for goodness sake. They’re paying this prop guys a lot of money, so they take the $1000, keep $980 for themselves and spend $20 on a bar code scanner..for a MULTI MILLION $$ MOVIE…c’mon

33. Cobalt 1365 - February 26, 2009

#24 It’s too bad the prop guys on TOS weren’t more creative, either. McCoy’s salt shakers TOTALLY ruined it for me.

Seriously, dude. Most movies with very few exceptions sample real world items for props. It’s called budgeting… besides, without staring at them for a long time is a screen cap, who would have noticed?

34. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

#25 – In all honesty, I had a GREAT time co-writing Captains’ Logs with Mark Altman, and I’m glad my love for the subject came through.

35. T.U.M. - February 26, 2009

Love, love, love the look of the costumes. I hope somebody puts out a sewing pattern so I can have one for next Halloween.

The pitnicker in me hopes there’ll be an explanation of why the ladies have short sleeves and the men long (won;t one of them be either too hot or too cold all the time?), but the rest of me can live without it if it doesn’t happen!

36. T.U.M. - February 26, 2009

#12 – They’re probably going by the Romulan calendar or something.

37. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#31. Thats nice, but this is 2008, you’d think they would METICULOUSLY design something as iconic as the BRIDGE of the USS Enterprise with custom detailing..not off the shelf products. Now I wonder too that this is ‘out’ if the company that produces the bar code scanner would be happy about their copyrighted product just being stuffed onto the bridge ‘as is’?

Every single detail on this bridge which will have considerable screen time now and in the future should be CUSTOM designed, I dont care so much about the romulan dudes stuff or misc background junk..but this is the BRIDGE..this is the CON..come guys whats up with that? No one could be bothered to think out a cool prop that has some function instead of an off the shelf bar code scanner????

38. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#33. isn’t this a $135 MILLION budget..

$20 Bar code scanner..

priceless…

39. Will_H - February 26, 2009

Boomerang logo?!? As much as I think the new uniforms look better than the old ones (though they still should miniskirts, even though they look hot) you FAIL for calling the Starfleet delta a boomerang. Actually the symbol from the TOS Defiant was closer to that than the Delta.

40. I am Kurok! - February 26, 2009

Does anyone recall that TOS crew DID wear black undershirts? (except for Kirk, of course, particularly when he got in fights) they showed up in a few episodes.

Holger, you are right about the zippers, in the 60’s, velour was the “futuristic fabric of choice” for sci-fi, Lost in Space costumes used it too. Velour fabric does not stretch, hence the zippers.

As for the ‘boomerangs’ it’s not that off-base: modern-day Marine-Corps utility uniforms actually have the signature ‘eagle-globe-and-anchor’ insignia randomly embedded in the camoflage pattern.

41. thorsten - February 26, 2009

@35…

The Bridge of the 1701 features Personal Habitat Fields that create the persons favored environment. In cases of emergency the temperature will be lowered to counteract perspiration or raised bloop pressure levels.

42. Mark from Germany - February 26, 2009

thorsten….here they are… :-)

http://www.tv-nostalgie.de/Sound/Raumpatrouille.htm

43. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#42. yea thats great, so your happy a 135 mil movie cant compete with a crappy obscure german film? congrats..

44. thorsten - February 26, 2009

@42…

Time that we start that reboot, Mark…
Maybe we should use Philips this time!

45. Drapera - February 26, 2009

This brings up something I have been looking at when it comes to the new bridge design. The bridge overall looks way to fragile These bar-code things, the L-shaped lamps, the tall glass panels, etc. A couple of good hits from a Romulan phaser, and the crew flies around the bridge…knocking this stuff all off and flying every wear.

TOS had the long “intercom” lamps, and after the pilot, removed them.

Also, many of you have commented that the uniforms are fairly well done (I am not crazy about the delta shield pattern myself), But do they look like they belong on this ship, with all the white and lights?

TOS had almost no white in the color scheme…even the walls were gray. Granted this was the age of the color TV, but that is also why the uniforms worked as well as they did. Color on Color…

just MHO

46. Cobalt 1365 - February 26, 2009

#38 138 Million isn’t exactly a sky’s-the-limit budget. Yes, that’s a heck of a lot of money, but when you consider how many different things they had to spend that on, from SFX to sets to location shoots to salaries to scoring to etc etc, you can imagine the amount of money saved by picking up a few of these for $20 a pop instead of paying a propmaster for hours of designs, multiple prototypes and manufacturing. Hundreds of dollars if not more, plus I would rather have the propmasters spending their time and energy into developing more iconic things like communicators, phasers and tricorders.

47. danno - February 26, 2009

those barcodes shatter the illusion.but not as much as the ashtray in the middle of them!

48. Daoud - February 26, 2009

Great article, thanks Ed. Good to see an interview with costume design, since we have so many questions. Any chance you could draw some followup questions from here at trekmovie.com and get a few questions more to him?

I’d like to know if the use of silver striping and boomerang is a subtle indication of difference from the gold striping and boomerang of the original series. Sort of a ’66 Trek is “golden era” and ’09 iTrek is “silver era”.

#23 Indeed. Perhaps they can CGI them OUT and de-clutter the iBridge.
#26 iPods, iCorders and iCommunicators, oh my! I was thinking more that they could quickly scan any bumpy-headed aliens and they’d ring up on that fancy viewscreen what their price is. I’m sure the Binars would love it! I just want to know why there isn’t a red LED digital clock above the viewscreen. That was Nick Meyer’s best idea in TWOK!

If we have to retcon those scanners, perhaps we can say they’re only there for this “test mission” and they’re doing an inventory count?? I mean, call in RGIS, and let’s scan the bridge tonight, and then move on to Deck 2 tomorrow.

49. thorsten - February 26, 2009

@46…
Its $150 million. So they had to fly coach to Seoul…

50. danno - February 26, 2009

barcode readers

51. Jeff - February 26, 2009

I like where he says, “I told him it would be really fun to create a whole new world, yet do an homage to the TV show, because that’s where our world in Star Trek would end.”

I think that’s a very telling quote about the story and where they’re going with things. Not that most people don’t have an idea already, but seeing as the filmmakers have been so secretive about the plot, I think he may have let on a little bit more than they would want.

52. ShawnP - February 26, 2009

38. CystDrone

Actually, a quick Google search shows that they’re $400 barcode scanners.

53. thorsten - February 26, 2009

They are no Barcode Scanners.
They are emitters for Pikes cone of silence!

54. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#46. Ordinarily I would agree with you..but the bridge of the main ship of the film should have been where a bit more money went. Enough that they dont need to buy off the shelf products in fact. I bet there woulda been hundreds of great props workers not on the film who coulda banged out a better more appropriate prop for FREE if they had been a call for it, if they were that strapped for cash for something so important its a pity. Look I understand its par for the course but if someone needs to cut budget on the main films BRIDGE which is Im assuming where a lot of the action happens then its a shame really.

55. Bob, The Evil Klingon Frontline Leader - February 26, 2009

45 – A couple of good hits from a Romulan phaser, and the crew flies around the bridge…knocking this stuff all off and flying every wear.

One word: seatbelts.

56. Drapera - February 26, 2009

# 51

I “read” into that as well…I wonder if we will see something like the ol’ TOS bridge before the credits roll?

57. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#52 oh my thats even WORSE..what a waste, I’d rather have $400 spent on building a custom prop than this pos.
Dont get me wrong Im a big fan of this film, just when I saw that I was kinda..well..disappointed. No disrespect meant to the team.

58. DavidJ - February 26, 2009

I don’t really mind the shirt patterns. Just like Spidey and Supes’s new costumes, they had to put SOME kind of extra detail on the shirts. Otherwise they would look way too flat and plain on the big screen– like the crew of the Starship Enterprise was just walking around in long sleeve T-shirts. LOL

59. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#45. To my eye it doesn’t match and your right, the bridge looks a bit too fragile for active duty

60. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

#48 – I’ll check into it and if there is a possibility, I’ll let Anthony know.

61. SerenityActual - February 26, 2009

Love the new uniforms, just want to know where to get ahold of that fabric, or something close :)

62. Drapera - February 26, 2009

55.

I saw belts in the shuttle scenes, but not on the bridge…yet.

And it’s not gonna help that BIG security guard pushing buttons in the corner. He would end up in Kirk’s lap…and they even took the hand rails away!

63. DavidJ - February 26, 2009

54.

Cheap barcode scanners or no, the new bridge still looks PLENTY expensive and sophisticated to me.

Besides, the scanners do kinda look kinda futuristic. And it’s not hard to imagine something being made in the future that just happens to share the same design.

64. madtrekfan - February 26, 2009

Hmmmm, well still looking forward to the new movie and seeing the new uniforms, but personally for me the best uniform is from the moive era, that is the fantastic deep red tunic style – thanks go to Robert Fletcher for them and of course Nick Meyer who wanted a more militrasitic style to them…..

65. Stan Winstone - February 26, 2009

Suggestion- include this image in the article, makes a great comparison.

http://jstueart.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/star_trek_csg_014.jpg

66. THX-1138-The Horn Xpressionist - February 26, 2009

Yeah, I have to admit that the bar code dealios are kind of lame. Salt shakers on a 1960’s TV show are one thing. This is supposed to be the big budget Trek event of our lifetime. On the bridge of the Enterprise. Mounted on the foremost position of the helm. Maybe someone who has no contact with the retail environment wouldn’t recognize it, but other millions of potential moviegoers will.

No of course this doesn’t ruin the story. But it does take someone out of the story. Kind of a fumble-rooskie. You wonder what else might have been dropped. And I am still looking forward to the movie, just in case someone wants to label me a hater.

67. McCoy - February 26, 2009

His philosophy sounds great. The results are in fact a nice balance of freshness and continuity. Great job Michael! You are a highlight of the production design.

I only wish….the ship (interior and exterior) had the same balance.

68. Rastaman - February 26, 2009

I was shocked when I saw how faithful the costumes were to the Original Series. Those were exactly what I had hoped to see. I also liked what I have seen of the get-up for “Spock-Prime” from the brief glimpse of Nimoy in the Alternate Trailer.

I am not worried about costuming in the least! I love the Balde Runner connection. One of the few movies better than the book … (which is not a slight against PKD, he himself said something of the sort).

69. Spock's Brain - February 26, 2009

I think someone stole my copy of Nacelles Monthly out of my mailbox…

70. Chris Pike - February 26, 2009

40. I am Kurok! – February 26, 2009

Me too, I thought the costume design had taken a cue from TOS black t-under-shirt. This aspect of the film’s art design is just bang on – they look like the original uniforms from a distance with a more detailed high tech look close up. Ingenious. I just wish that mentality had been taken on for the E external/internal designs. The original looking uniforms seem to clash really with the alien ibridge and corridoors….

Well done Ed!

71. Ryan - February 26, 2009

Anthony:

Unrelated to the article, but we’ve heard interviews from ALMOST everyone from the ST cast, except the villain.

Any idea why Eric Bana is being so quiet?

Cheers

72. Chris Doohan - February 26, 2009

Great job on the costumes, Michael. I absolutely love mine.

Nice article, Ed

Chris

73. Jeffery Wright - February 26, 2009

“so I created a new fabric where a pattern of the boomerang logo was utilized.”

and they stuck it everywhere they could in this production, even on the toy ray-guns, er, i mean… phasers.

they must think that will make the movie more ‘trekkier’…. as if thats all it took.

could the female duty uniforms look goofier?

what happened to good ol’ starfleet cleavage?

why not put them in a burka?

did he also design the hotel bellhop uniforms the cadets wear?

enquiring mind want to know.

74. T.U.M. - February 26, 2009

#41 – THANK YOU! ;-)

75. Anthony Pascale - February 26, 2009

RE: more

this is just a taste, TrekMovie will be doing a followup interview and profile for Kaplan

76. screaming satellite - February 26, 2009

Ed Gross – i have been a fan of yours for years!! The Making of The Trek Films is my fave Trek book ever (I-VI edition by Image Publishing)…i spent YEARS trying to track it down – was nigh impossible to get in the UK pre eBay/amazon (i remember sending a letter to Image publishing in the states asking how i could get a copy – no response LOL..today it wouldnt be a problem at all) finally got a copy around the time of Trek VI when there was in influx of US books in the UK thanks to the new film and 25th anniversary…got it along with ‘Charting The Undiscovered Country: The Making of Trek VI’ (remember that one?) which was a superb book too – i still have them in prestine condition…also all the stuff in Cinefantastique..like the Trek VI issue with the movie reviews (where you gave VI a higher rating than WOK!!)…it was all essential reading for a growing Trekkie

77. Unbel1ever - February 26, 2009

If everything in this movie looked as good as the uniforms, I would really like it.

78. MattTheTrekkie - February 26, 2009

I think the new Uniforms are brilliant, they look like the uniforms from the original Star Trek. And that was all that I really cared about :) oh, and good job Ed, thanks for the awesome article.

79. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - February 26, 2009

28. starbase63

Indeed, it’s not like it wasn’t done before. I always liked McCoy’s surgeon tunic. And I was watching Miri last night and there is an extended scene where McCoy’s tunic is unzipped and the shadows and all give the illusion that it’s exactly like the new uniforms with no collar but the black shirt underneath.

As for the silver, as much as I love the gold it is actually an improvement really. The gold braid could get lost in the gold tunics that Kirk and Sulu wore. The silver stands out more. I’m just glad the stripes are back baby!

80. DJT - February 26, 2009

“yet do an homage to the TV show, because that’s where our world in Star Trek would end”

Gee, I wonder what that means.

81. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

76 -I’m really glad you enjoyed the books. They were a lot of fun to do. One thing I have to add, though, is that I don’t think Mark or I rated Undiscovered Country better than WOK. That would be morally wrong, wouldn’t it?

82. weerd1 - February 26, 2009

Since we’re talking about comparing old to new, and little bridge details, I have a slightly off-topic question. Since the proportions of the external bridge dome to the saucer seems about the same between original 1701 and new extra-crispy 1701, but the interior bridge itself is much larger on the new ship. Can we then assume the new 1701 is proportionately larger than the old?

83. Olley Olley Olley - February 26, 2009

They look good and a nice twist on the original design.
Mr Gross has done a great job on the uniforms

84. Lore - February 26, 2009

#54 The props and everything else ( down to the people who clean up after the days shooting ends) are Union controlled. They HAVE to purchase items from Union approved venders. Someone giving something for FREE isn’t in the movie business vocabulary.

85. Closettrekker - February 26, 2009

#80—It sounds to me as if he means that the story being told would lead into the 5 year mission.

This would seem to fit with what Orci has told us in the comments section of a past thread—that nothing which is seemingly preclusive to events suggested by the original series will actually be so.

It could be that there are enough “time gaps” within the film’s story that, left open to interpretation, much of the backstory we already know can still fit within the altered timeline.

Bob is always understandably but deliberately vague, so this is just speculation of course.

86. tribble farmer - February 26, 2009

The uniforms are one of the things I like most so far. The undershirt/overshirt thing is pretty neat. And not entirely new, either- McCoy’s shiny blue medical tunic had a black undershirt that made up the black at the collar, after all.

87. screaming satellite - February 26, 2009

81 – thanks for the response Ed…my apologies, it clearly states it was Mark Altman who did the trek film reviews in the April 92 Cinefantastique

but yes TUC did indeed get a higher rating – ***3/4 (out of **** i assume) over TWOK ***1/2 and it stated on the Khan review – ‘Until VI this was considered the best of the movie lot’…and on the VI review ‘This impressive capper on a memorable 25 year cruise is the best of the film series…’ (for the rest in this mag – TMP got **1/2, TSFS – **1/2, TVH – ***, TFF – **1/2)

i have to say i agreed with Mark at the time as i too was blown away by VI and thought it was the best one (esp coming after V)…but after the intial thrill of it died down after a couple of years it was clear that, while a great film, it was no Khan

Id put it 5th best – II (****classic), III, VIII, IV, VI (all great ***), I, VII (ok **) , V, X ,IX (meh *1/2)

88. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

See, this is the same problem I had with the 3 prequel star wars movies.
We KNOW nothing will happen to the main stars..they all survive into the next series of movies? So there’s never any sense of danger for the characters
and as a result the movie is useless.
So for in order to have those characters in serious danger for their lives and that of the Earth the story MUST go into another time line, otherwise its completely useless, whats the point???

89. Denise de Arman - February 26, 2009

Great article – love getting the inside scoop and looking forward to more costuming info.

90. Jefferies Tuber - February 26, 2009

Little known fact: the new uniforms are made of ShamWow!

No more sweaty pits in front of the Klingons.

91. SirBroiler - February 26, 2009

I’m one of those trek fans who isn’t so impressed with the costume design. I just cannot be convinced that space explorers would wear something that essentially looks like primary colored pajamas.

I know there are those that are pleased the uniform look ties so closely with the original – so congrats to you all. But I just think they missed the mark.

92. Stanky McFibberich - February 26, 2009

I like the uniforms. They look good.

93. Jotin - February 26, 2009

I like the uniforms. I think the pattern woven in makes them look more interesting rather than solid colors. They could have gone with maybe a diomand pattern maybe but either way i like it.

94. BK613 - February 26, 2009

23
“totally ruins it for me…”

LOL then you probably don’t want to know that they did it twice:

http://www.styleteks.net/rmsfusion/ProductDetail.cfm?ItemID=536

95. JiffyMo - February 26, 2009

I may be wron, but I thought the TOS undershirts were black? I remember a black undershirts that used to be tucked into the pants. How would this be unique if it was already in use?

96. mumbles3k - February 26, 2009

Ed, I know this is kind of a weird question, but did the topic of shoes come up? The reason I ask is because little kid Kirk wears some sort of custom-made Air Jordan XX3’s in the trailer. A lot of people in the sneakerhead community are wondering what the story behind that is. Thanks.

97. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

96 – Actually, that subject did not come up, though I suppose it should have given the point you’re making.

98. Itch - February 26, 2009

#95,

yes, you’re right, they did wear black undershirts in TOS, which the people doing the new movie seem to forget…

99. BK613 - February 26, 2009

98
They worn undershirts but they were not visible (except for McCoy’s surgical tunic)

100. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

98. Itch

I do remember a discussion on this when we first saw the uniforms. Lots of different opinions on this.

But I do believe that that is how they were originally.. the black undershirt under the tunic. But I think in season two they were one piece because they didn’t like they way they fell and bunched up underneath. McCoy’s surgical tunic always included the black undershirt in all seasons though.

101. troubled tribble - February 26, 2009

Why does everyone get so bunched about the new Big E?!?!? I agree that the first promo pic was a bad angle and gave us some concern but now….. I mean if you can’t get with the new design after seeing Tobias’s renderings you are just being silly. That shot from above over the desert terrain is just awesome, and so clearly captures the spirit of the original design! I am willing to bet that those that hate the new design the most will be loving it after a few years… when they can claim it is no longer new.

102. The Governator - February 26, 2009

“Its too bad the prop guys aren;t as skilled. Has anyone seen THIS on the bridge..its a BAR CODE scanner..they didn’t even try to dress it up/down:-S
Im APPALLED at how lazy they got here..I wonder what else we’d see..totally ruins it for me…”

Yeah? Well the original sets were made out of cardboard, so its an apple for an apple I suppose. Besides, who would ever notice this when watching the movie? It fits so well into the design that I honestly don’t care.

103. Dr. Image - February 26, 2009

As a runner, I too thought they would be using some high-tech material like Dupont Cool-Max, since they shoot under all those hot lights, that would make sense.
But no- James Cawley reported that the material used is SPANDEX, just like first and second season TNG!
I also think the delta pattern is overkill and unnessesary.

#37 Barcode scanners. One of my pet peeves.
The bridge looks like it was designed by people who had no experience with ergonomics or familiarity with Trek history. In other words, like a bunch of amatuers did it.
A lot of guys in the prop biz are just laughing.
Given the amount of $$ spent, it’s shocking.

Yeah, I know, the movie might be great, so, whatever.

104. captain_neill - February 26, 2009

The uniforms are one thing I have no probs with.

105. Nathan - February 26, 2009

The uniforms are great…they use the same design as the original, but with added details (like the pattern, undershirt, etc), and a little bit of “modernization”. I like ‘em.

Now if only the bridge and/or New Enterprise had taken the same approach…

106. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#102: Yea but it didn’t LOOK like it was made of cardboard, which in fact it wasn’t. But the point is they didn’t throw off the shelf products into the bridge and call it good. At least they put some thought into the buttons, controls and what not with a purpose in mind. Seriously these bar code scanners are for what purpose on the bridge? Handles? Lights? Ornaments even? They are completely superfluous and are just “there” to add some kind visual noise, unfortunately that ‘noise’ is completely recognizable.
Obviously your a less discerning fellow when it comes to good design, more power to ya and ignorance is bliss I guess but for me its something thats disturbing considering the budget involved. It wont spoil the movie for me but now knowing this it just feels a bit sloppy. I hope it doesn’t carry into other areas of the production is all..

107. Smitty™ - February 26, 2009

Looking at the uniforms, which I love, make high quality shirts based on those I’ll buy 7 of each choice of the 3 for each day of the week!

I have a Faded Glory long sleeve shirt sleeves 100% cotton the rest 90/10 cotton poly blend. Sleeves stitched at the shoulders just like the unis!

One of my favorite shirts, wish I knew where to find more.

Yes I wear every chance I can since the new uniforms were unveiled!

-cs™

108. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#103. Wow thats interesting so other guys in the ‘bizz’ are seeing this and laughing?!
I hate to agree but the bridge sucks, I KNOW its Sci-Fi and Im coming at this not from a ‘trekkie’ point of view but from a design point of view..all the things protruding up off the desks like the lamps which are completely useless as the whole bridge is dayglow WHITE any way. I The offensive barcode scanners having no apparent purpose and those huge framed glass panels?!? They have incredibly strong materials and yet place these massive brackets to hold some presumably glass(?) display screens which you know someone is gonna fall thru right off the bat..ugh. Did Ryan Church mess that up to? Who’s to blame there..

109. Rastaman - February 26, 2009

“#95, Yes, you’re right, they did wear black undershirts in TOS, which the people doing the new movie seem to forget…”

Easy to forget considering all the times we saw Kirk’s torn shirt without an undershirt! Just a few examples to jog the memory:

“Where No Man Has Gone Before”

“Shore Leave”

“Amok Time”
http://www.homevideos.com/freezes-tv/Trek-AmokTime20.jpeg

110. McCoy - February 26, 2009

103…

OMG…I would really love to hear more about what other, more experienced set designers think about the Trek solutions. Very refreshing….

111. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

that shot makes it look like he has breasts..

112. Christine - February 26, 2009

#5 “..the new uni’s kinda look like Nike Dri-Fit workout shirts…”

That made me laugh. xD Well, they’re bound to be sweatin’ a lot this mission, between Spock brawling with Kirk, people being face-to-face with some crazy-lookin’ monster, skydiving, and of course whatever women Kirk–

Okay, I’ll stop. x3

I like the uniforms. They look cool. -thumbsup-

113. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

106. CystDrone
“At least they put some thought into the buttons, controls and what not with a purpose in mind.”

Actually.. they used anything they could get their hands on.. plastic toy parts, candies, jelly beans… anything really. You do know they used salt shakers too? So not much thought WAS put into it back then. And had you ever noticed how the set would wobble back and forth when the doors opened and closed? And I loved those fake rocks LoL. Very campy!

And as far as the barcode scanners in this movie goes.. I bet you won’t even see it in terms off whats going on.. they only way you saw it was due to a screen cap.

What’s wrong wit th enew E? Looks GREAT! I love teh look and design. But then again.. when I was 12.. I remember this same discussion going on in fan mags and conventions about the TMP Enterprise. And don’t get me started with what people said about the Enterprise D!

114. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

103. Dr. Image

How long have you been in “the biz”? I ask because I have worked in TV & Film since 86.. and when the dress the set with thing sin the movies i’ve worked on.. and some were sci-fi including that horrible Battlefield Earth.. you would be amazed ay how many “laughable” household things are actually used. The used a toilet plunger for some prop.. the “insiders” laugh becuase we know about this stuff but mostly goes unrecognized by the average viewer.

115. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

Show me something on the original bridge that looked out of place? There is nothing that does. Regardless of the materials used to build the walls your not really making a good comparison, the budget for the sets on the old show would cover JJ’s lunch expense today!
Theres no excuse for just slapping a piece of hardware onto the bridge like this and calling it good, with seemingly little thought into what it does (fictionally) so in the 23rd century, they have a warp bubble initiator that just happens to look like a 20th century bar code scanner?? WOW…
In fact its kinda an insult to people who labor long and hard to make this movie unique & interesting to just do that IMHO.

116. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

#114: Are you serious..comparing Battlefield Earth to Star Trek..OMG…

117. McCoy - February 26, 2009

102…

You don’t care? Wow.

I don’t get you, MP. You seem to go way out of your way to put down classic TOS and try to uplift the new film. Even when confronted with the bar-code scanners.

The classic bridge design, not the construction, is looking better every day.
http://www.webolutionary.com/3d/images/bridge_tos2-9.jpg

118. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

116. CystDrone

did you even READ my post? I said I worked on the movie.. I said we used house hold items in that movie. Good Lord Man.. read first!!

And to add.. who the hell cares what they use in the movie?? Is some nitpicker didn’t go on a 3 hour internet serach months ago.. you woul dhav never known they were barcode readers, would you? because the barcode readers I have seen don’t look like that. So get off your high horse.. if you think this movie is going to be that horrible and laughable.. DON’T see it! When I first saw the trailer.. there was no way you could see that they were barcode scanners. Good Lord. Chill man.

119. THX-1138-The Horn Xpressionist - February 26, 2009

TOS didn’t have a $150 million budget. That would be the difference.

120. AJ - February 26, 2009

Seriously, those barcode scanners do not bother me in the slightest.

I’d love to hear that the Kelvin’s hull is built around a Wham-O Frisbee connected to two toilet paper rolls. It’s a great story if the FX guys are able to suspend our disbelief with quality work.

121. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

118: no I read it but (sorry to say) Battlefield Earth wasn’t highly noted for its production design or much else in fact it goes down in history as one of the worst movies ever made. BUT I get and know what your saying in a lot of sci fi movies one would never know (or care) about that minutia! I totally agree..but when it comes to TREK and its noted for well designed props, form that follows function and aesthetics.
Im sure people did argue about the TMP refit design and the D..but at the end of the day those designs STILL stand up as classics too. I really really cant see anyone saying that about this new ship 5 years or more from now. Again the function of the design has taken a back seat over just makin it look ‘kool’ for kids, which is fine again but unfortunately its spilled onto the bridge and we get crap like that sticking up all over the place, wouldn’t matter if it wasn’t so noticeable!
Oh man..thru out the movies and TV series how many reverse shots do we get of the bridge crew from that exact angle of the con? LOTS..we’re gonna be seeing those barcode scanners for YEARS to come.

122. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

120: Thats great, do you still SEE the wham-o-frisbee?? NO..

123. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

119: yea exactly..this is the Bridge..THE BRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

124. McCoy - February 26, 2009

118…

Me thinks you need to get off your low-horse. Battlefield Earth’s set designs will not make it to the film hall of fame and if you were one of the people that brought it to that glory, you need to start taking more care in dressing sets. Clearly, you don’t really care how they look.

The bar code scanners we spotted. End of story. It’s a good-size mistake and supports the issues some have with this bridge design.

That ash-tray thing actually looks like silver masking tape.

125. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

120 AJ…

wanna see something funny.. my daughter did that exact thing for school.

http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd24/pmw67/?action=view&current=n533930202_5502311_7209.jpg

126. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

124:
Right, its fine if they stick a potato into the asteroid field on Empire Strikes back, or the millennium falcon onto the side of a building in Blade Runner ect
but ‘IN YO FACE’ sloppiness like this is a bit sad imho. They shoulda got the pro’s to design the big E & the bridge.

127. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

124. McCoy

Okay.. obviously you weren’t reading anything I wrote. I was just using Battlefield Earth as an example of a film with a huge budget I worked on.. I was not comparing the two films. I was saying that EVERY sci fi movie will use household objects or other things found as props. So clearly not a “good sized mistake” You don’t even know what they are being used for. Me thinks you need to just go watch the movie and stop critisizing everything before you know the context.

128. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

126. CystDrone
Everything is “in your face” when it is a screen cap.

129. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

127:
No WE GET IT. But at least they go to the trouble of disguising what the prop was built on..LOOK AT THE PICTURE..they practically stuck it on the console with some tape, BAM. DONE. Paycheque please..!

Its not gonna spoil the movie like I said and Im 100% behind this reboot of the series, but to some of us who care about such things its a bit of a shame or wasted opportunity.

Get rid of the concierge table, the ikea lamps and bar code scanners and we’re half way there towards a decent bridge design..

130. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

It’ll be in your face when your watching on a big ass Imax screen too..

131. steve623 - February 26, 2009

Huzzah and kudos to Ed Gross, whose fine articles, books, and various contributions have been informing and enteraining me for at least 20 years. There’s a lot of your ink on my bookshelves, Ed.
¡Viva Cinefantastique!

132. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

Reminder:
http://blockheadpictures.com/images/misc/trek001.jpg

133. Trekkiefan16 - February 26, 2009

I like the look of the new uniforms and look forward to seeing all the new uniforms and costumes. You will start seeing people at San Diego Comic Con wearing the uniforms from the new movie and folks dressed up like Nero.

Anthony…..I think when you do the science updates, there should be a heading called “Nacelles News” where you update on engineering breakthroughs. Just a thought. :-)

134. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

130. CystDrone
sure.. if you know what you are looking for. The average viewer or fan that hasn’t seen the screen cap will never see what it is.

135. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

130. CystDrone
Okay, here’s a question for you. Without seeing that picture of the barcode scanners.. and just seeing the bridge.. would you have been able to tell what they are?? Not me. I thought they looked pretty damn cool. After seeing the “barcoder scanner” pic.. then realized what they were. Know what? They still look cool!

136. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

Honestly nope. But Im sure the people who use them or make them will. Aside from that it goes a long way into the thinking (or lack thereof) of whoever was designing the set. Instead of actually thinking about WHY there should be anything there at all, and if there has to be something..whats its purpose? Its seemingly just placed there to add some visual noise to the console. Could they not have come up with a better solution than lazily just sticking a purchased product onto the desk?

Its like someone asks you to create a masterpiece painting, so you go off and download some clipart and paste it into the canvas. It looks cool!
You show it to your boss he doesn’t know where it came from and thinks you made it. He’s happy, your happy and maybe most of the viewers are happy at least the ones who haven’t recognized it yet..but ARTISTICALLY & ethically don’t you feel like your cheating??!?!

Thats just a hypothetical but its like they used CLIP ART for the bridge..when it should have been totally designed from the ground up!

137. AJ - February 26, 2009

125:

Montreal Paul:

That’s great! I’m going to start saving my delivery tins. What material did she use for the nacelle caps?

138. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

131 — Thanks, Steve. Genuinely appreciated.

139. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

136. CystDrone – February 26, 2009
Honestly nope. But Im sure the people who use them or make them will. Aside from that it goes a long way into the thinking (or lack thereof) of whoever was designing the set. Instead of actually thinking about WHY there should be anything there at all, and if there has to be something..whats its purpose? Its seemingly just placed there to add some visual noise to the console. Could they not have come up with a better solution than lazily just sticking a purchased product onto the desk?

<< How do you know it’s for visual noise? Have you seen the movie? Do you know what it’s used for? NO, you don’t.

Its like someone asks you to create a masterpiece painting, so you go off and download some clipart and paste it into the canvas. It looks cool!
You show it to your boss he doesn’t know where it came from and thinks you made it. He’s happy, your happy and maybe most of the viewers are happy at least the ones who haven’t recognized it yet..but ARTISTICALLY & ethically don’t you feel like your cheating??!?!

<<< you mean like Andy Warhols pop art? With Marlyn Monroe or the Campbells soup? Hmmm.

Thats just a hypothetical but its like they used CLIP ART for the bridge..when it should have been totally designed from the ground up!

<<< Until we know the purpose, why critisize? Perhaps the ARE barcode scanners used to scan barcodes on the Bridge. Geez.

140. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

Anyway thats my opinion of it, like I said I support this movie, its gonna kick ass hopefully and there will be more to come. Hopefully next round details like this will be taken care of making it truly a masterpiece! Go JJ!

141. steve623 - February 26, 2009

“TOS didn’t have a $150 million budget. That would be the difference.”

Just out of curiosity, I ran some numbers.

If we assume, based on reference books and interviews, that an episode of the original Star Trek cost $178,000.00 in 1968, and we multiply that by an average of 24 episodes in a season, we get a season’s budget of $ 4, 272,000.00 in 1968 dollars.So with our handy inflation calculator, we discover that $4,272,000.00 in 1968 had about the same buying power as $26,443,805.28 in 2008. So in real dollars, the assumed production budget of this movie would pay for about 5½ seasons of the original Star Trek.

142. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

137. AJ

LoL… that’s great! And she used styrofoam balls bought at the dollar store for the nacelle caps. They fit the rolls quite good.

143. NaradaAlpha - February 26, 2009

THE DEPARTMENT COLOR OVERSHIRTS SHOULDVE BEEN LEATHER JACKETS

144. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

140. CystDrone

Listen.. it will kick ass. A friend of mine working at the distribution company saw the whole thing.. not just sections. He says it kicks ass and is going to be huge. His words.. “Trek is back baby!” All the people he was with were not Trek fans… he was.. he said they all loved it. Said that they didn’t know Trek could be that cool. They only thing he said he didn’t like.. was Quinto because all he thought of was Sylar.

145. Alex Rosenzweig - February 26, 2009

I think the costuming is one of the better parts of the film that we know about so far.

146. Alex Rosenzweig - February 26, 2009

Responding to a couple of random comments:

#45 – “The bridge overall looks way to fragile These bar-code things, the L-shaped lamps, the tall glass panels, etc.”

Maybe, if things get smashed up enough during the events of the film, that’ll lead into a refit between now and the next film, moving toward something more TOS-like. ;)

#80 – ” “yet do an homage to the TV show, because that’s where our world in Star Trek would end”

Gee, I wonder what that means.”

and

#85- “#80—It sounds to me as if he means that the story being told would lead into the 5 year mission.”

That was how I read it, too. The events of this film are still intended to set up TOS, or so various folks connected with the production have said.

“This would seem to fit with what Orci has told us in the comments section of a past thread—that nothing which is seemingly preclusive to events suggested by the original series will actually be so.

It could be that there are enough “time gaps” within the film’s story that, left open to interpretation, much of the backstory we already know can still fit within the altered timeline.

Bob is always understandably but deliberately vague, so this is just speculation of course.”

I had similar thoughts, myself. Add to that an interview with Abrams a couple of months back where he pretty much said that although some elements of the character backstories had been changed, the world at the end of the film was still supposed to be the world of TOS. that was the same interview where he said that the intent was not to do a complete “reimagining” of Star Trek.

Allowing for some of Bob’s vague hints, it may be that the as-yet-unrevealed final resolution is that Spock Prime is able to orchestrate enough of a fix so that, backstories notwithstanding, the universe is more-or-less “fixed” by the end, even if maybe with a few seams and patches.

I guess we’ll see!

147. Lebbeus - February 26, 2009

Edward the Outstanding. Please continue to enhance this site. :D

148. Colonel West - February 26, 2009

Ed:

captains logs was the first behind the scenes/ review review book i bought when i was younger, reading the article and the comments has given me the urge to go route it out and have another read for the 6 billionth time, good times and thanks for the memories as they say… :)

speaking of Imagine’s stable of magazines, this months SFX has a great piece in their rewind section on TNG by Jayne Nelson, well worth a read.

Oh and this quote from Chris Pine hidden in the corner of the view screen news bits, probably been heard before, it’s along the lines of JJ’s “This isn’t your fathers Trek…” but here you go:

“I’m not well-versed in the Trek canon but we’re venturing into territory that’s only been covered in paperback novels. It’s definitely not going to please everyone.”

Personally, I like my canon a) spelt “canon” so kudos (not Kodos) and b) generally making sense but I’m not going to argue over the minutae of what anyone had for breakfast 34 minutes into The Cage being ignored to the benefit of the story.

I hasten to add that I know that didn’t happen 34 minutes into The Cage but if you pull me on that you don’t get the point or more frankly are pretty much a lost cause and I’m sure you’ll ignore my point completely anyway… go back to happily arguing over a screenshot of a barcode scanner that doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference and probably won’t look out of place seen briefly in a panning shot as opposed to a screenshot getting done to death ;) ;P

Basically, chill out people, new Trek with respect and knowledge of whats gone before is a whole lot better than either a complete 180 that destroys the franchise (yes, i said franchise, its a collection of t.v. shows and films made to make money remember) or Trek being buried six feet under, who thought we’d be here now after the burnout a few year ago. Heck, my handle is a guy from a deleted scene!

Anyway after that slight tangent, great article Ed and I hope your the man to do something on the making of… if it goes ahead and if your interested.

peace and long life (even to the uber canonistas!) ;)

149. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

148 – Hey, Colonel. Nice to know that all of that work meant something to people. It’s a good feeling. Obviously my love for Trek and covering it continues to this day (tomorrow, too, with a little luck).

150. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

144: I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every time I hear stuff like this Im like..it cant be true..BUT I keep hoping it will be. Thanks for the discussion and update!

151. Ian B - February 26, 2009

In the original series, they wore black undershirts for the practical reason that the shirts would ride up, revealing unseemiy stomach. But the black undershirt- probably a vest as we british use the word, meaning no sleeves and no collar, a “wifebeater shirt” in black- would always magically disappear if a uniform shirt was torn or one was taken off on camera, which suggests that the black vest wasn’t “really there”. It wasn’t an official part of the uniform, it was just to avoid rolls of stomach being seen as a practical production matter.

And I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again- I’m disappointed with the womens’ uniforms. The original one piece mini “skort” is a design classic and hard to improve on. Replacing it with a separates skirt and top doesn’t work for me, especially the short sleeves. It results in something that looks less like a uniform than the original did. Kind of summer office wear.

IMV, they should have either got rid of the minis altogether as unmilitary and silly, or embraced the original and run with it, which is what I would have done. Theiss’s original is a striking and very flattering garment for a gal with the right figure. A skirt and sleeveless top just don’t have the same impact. Without the classic lines of that original womens’ uniform, they’d have been better off putting the gals in trousers like the boys.

152. Colonel West - February 26, 2009

149: something your not telling us….??? (joke!)

I freelance myself over here in Ireland but seeming as we’ve got a distinct lack of any kind of genre writing let alone content, there’s absolutely no market to break into, leaving us with the bane of my life, soap operas and reality tv!

Anyway, great to hear from you, hopefully you’ll get your wish and also contribute to the site even after the films out.

153. sean - February 26, 2009

#23

I guess you just can’t stomach any TOS episodes, then. Half of McCoy’s scanners were barely altered salt shakers. And definitely don’t watch Court Martial – he uses a microphone as a ‘heartbeat reader’! ;)

154. Daoud - February 26, 2009

Re: salt shakers in TOS.

The point was that even though they were salt shakers, they didn’t LOOK like salt shakers. They looked like laser scalpels, diagnostic scanning probes, and hypoinjectors. That was why they worked.

Barcode scanners, look like barcode scanners to anyone who has ever worked in retail. It’s unavoidable, and it detracts.

Not until I read The Making Of Star Trek did I know that McCoy’s instruments were bizarro salt shakers.

The uniform design is absotrekkinlutely fabulous.

The sets, the ship design, leave much to be desired.

But uniforms… a great extrapolation of styles seen throughout the various incarnations of Trek. Don’t forget, TMP had short-sleeve optional uniforms too. Why not. We can certainly agree we didn’t see *everything* on TOS. But I guess this will be the one episode where the overnight inventory company is scanning the Enterprise for something or another.

Maybe we can have newly-appointed chief engineer Scott decide to throw out the late Olson’s barcode scanners early in the sequel…

155. Ed Gross - February 26, 2009

149 – Nah, I’m fine. The coverage shall continue!

156. The Governator - February 26, 2009

106. CystDrone

“Obviously your a less discerning fellow when it comes to good design, more power to ya and ignorance is bliss I guess but for me its something thats disturbing considering the budget involved. It wont spoil the movie for me but now knowing this it just feels a bit sloppy. I hope it doesn’t carry into other areas of the production is all.”

Actually I am a design specialist (as well as a musician). I understand why you would have a problem with them having used a barcode scanner, but all I am saying is that, to me, it looks ok. I admit being somewhat surprised that it was used, but I just think it looks adequate and is not distracting. I am not trying to intentionally disagree with you, I am just stating my own opinion.
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117. McCoy

“You don’t care? Wow.

I don’t get you, MP. You seem to go way out of your way to put down classic TOS and try to uplift the new film. Even when confronted with the bar-code scanners.”

Firstly let me say that I respect your point of view towards this movie. I understand what you talk about in your posts and to a certain degree can relate. Oh what the world would be like if we all thought in the same way, right? Perhaps I should make myself a little more clear. I DO CARE. If I didn’t care about Star Trek, the designs, the actors, the creative decisions, etc., I wouldn’t be on this site to begin with. But within the context of what I was trying to say, I don’t care that they used a barcode scanner because I think it looks fine. If it didn’t look fine, I would definitely care.

Also, my objective here is not to put down classic TOS, but to put things in perspective. I LOVE TOS in every way, shape, and form. The problem is that many people do not, and I think before us Trekkies take offense to that, we must ask ourselves why. No one can deny the silliness aspect of the original, and I think when you really like something such as TOS as much as I do, you can make fun of it without being too offensive.

The new movie is an entity that exists all by itself. It is an opportunity to re-imagine Trek as if it were a new entity. The plate covered with the residue of all things Trek that have come before has been wiped clean and a new dish has been served. They have literally gone back to the drawing board, and usually when that happens, very little of what you had before, aside from the general idea, remains. So to me, it is truly amazing at how respectful they have been. I could make a long list of things that they have done to honor the spirit of TOS and beyond. Believe me, I understand you when you say that they could have been a little more nostalgic when it came to designing the Enterprise, but I am an optimistic person and try to look at the glass half full instead of empty. If I go into the theater on May 8th as excited as humanly possible, rather than going in pissed off because some things are different, then the experience will be that much more gratifying. I admit, the first time I saw the Enterprise, the first thing that came into my mind was, huh? Then I put my fresh glasses on and thought that well its not what I was expecting but it actually looks pretty good. Same reaction came to me when I saw the bridge for the first time. The reason I uplift the film is because I like what I see. Understandably, you do not, and I respect that. My only hope is that when you go to see the movie, you will change your mind, or at least like it for what it is: Star Trek like you have never seen it before.

157. SebiMeyer - February 26, 2009

I take it Kirk only wears the undershirt because two shirts would he harder to rip? ;)

Acting captain…. I know.

158. The Governator - February 26, 2009

106. CystDrone

“Obviously your a less discerning fellow when it comes to good design, more power to ya and ignorance is bliss I guess but for me its something thats disturbing considering the budget involved. It wont spoil the movie for me but now knowing this it just feels a bit sloppy. I hope it doesn’t carry into other areas of the production is all.”

Actually I am a design specialist (as well as a musician). I understand why you would have a problem with them having used a barcode scanner, but all I am saying is that, to me, it looks ok. I admit being somewhat surprised that it was used, but I just think it looks adequate and is not distracting. I am not trying to intentionally disagree with you, I am just stating my own opinion.
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117. McCoy

“You don’t care? Wow.

I don’t get you, MP. You seem to go way out of your way to put down classic TOS and try to uplift the new film. Even when confronted with the bar-code scanners.”

Firstly let me say that I respect your point of view towards this movie. I understand what you talk about in your posts and to a certain degree can relate. Oh what the world would be like if we all thought in the same way, right? Perhaps I should make myself a little more clear. I DO CARE. If I didn’t care about Star Trek, the designs, the actors, the creative decisions, etc., I wouldn’t be on this site to begin with. But within the context of what I was trying to say, I don’t care that they used a barcode scanner because I think it looks fine. If it didn’t look fine, I would definitely care.

Also, my objective here is not to put down classic TOS, but to put things in perspective. I LOVE TOS in every way, shape, and form. The problem is that many people do not, and I think before us Trekkies take offense to that, we must ask ourselves why. No one can deny the silliness aspect of the original, and I think when you really like something such as TOS as much as I do, you can make fun of it without being too offensive.

The new movie is an entity that exists all by itself. It is an opportunity to re-imagine Trek as if it were a new entity. The plate covered with the residue of all things Trek that have come before has been wiped clean and a new dish has been served. They have literally gone back to the drawing board, and usually when that happens, very little of what you had before, aside from the general idea, remains. So to me, it is truly amazing at how respectful they have been. I could make a long list of things that they have done to honor the spirit of TOS and beyond. Believe me, I understand you when you say that they could have been a little more nostalgic when it came to designing the Enterprise, but I am an optimistic person and try to look at the glass half full instead of empty. If I go into the theater on May 8th as excited as humanly possible, rather than going in pissed off because some things are different, then the experience will be that much more gratifying. I admit, the first time I saw the Enterprise, the first thing that came into my mind was, huh? Then I put my fresh glasses on and thought that well its not what I was expecting but it actually looks pretty good. Same reaction came to me when I saw the bridge for the first time. The reason I uplift the film is because I like what I see. Understandably, you do not, and I respect that.

159. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 26, 2009

Get over the barcode scanners, already! It’s just one prop of many.

They probably designed the “circuit board” etched glass panels from scratch, costing perhaps thousands of dollars, and those are IMHO more embarrassing.

Congratulations to CystDrone for hijacking a perfectly good thread on COSTUMES to dwell on some trivial prop pet-peeve.

Here’s hoping that cyst turns malignant so we can be rid of you.

160. Armandeus - February 26, 2009

I can see the other black barcode scanners in the back to the left.
At least they semi-disguised, I guess, but the roll of duct tape lying on the console is very sloppy and ruins suspension of disbelief. I hope they noticed in time to remove it when shooting the movie itself.

161. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 26, 2009

Costumes look great. I like that they stuck to a “60s sensibility” — though I wonder if the costume designers for Mad Men would agree with that assessment….

But seriously, I like that the costumes are both evocative of the originals, and yet futuristic looking. They don’t look like “space pajamas”.

162. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 26, 2009

In regard to off-the-shelf stuff in TOS, I have two words for you: circuit boards.

163. OneBuckFilms - February 26, 2009

I happen to love these costumes, and so far, the Bridge is actually very interesting to my eyes.

164. OneBuckFilms - February 26, 2009

162 – I’ve got 3:

Coffee Cup Lids ;-)

And how many pipes had GNDN written on them (Goes Nowhere Does Nothing)?

165. ensignHarris - February 26, 2009

Am I wrong or was there an original episode (season 1) in which Kirk is working out and puts his yellow shirt over his black undershirt?

166. Iowagirl - February 26, 2009

- …and the color of the jumpers describe what that person’s job is. –

Now, that’s new, isn’t it? :D

167. Paulaner - February 27, 2009

#39 “Boomerang logo?!?”

Actually, it’s more like a boomerang than a delta ;)

168. ENGON - February 27, 2009

Could those all those bar code scanners be a bit of subliminal symbolism??

Horrrors! Could this be the movie in which Spock finally…CHECKS OUT!!!

169. AqAZAr - February 27, 2009

My old Star Trek: The Magazine briefing on the uniforms (from the late 90’s) said it was a black undershirt anyways, so that’s what I grew up believing.

170. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

#165 No, for Kirk’s physical in Corbomite Maneuver he had no shirt, but Spock’s exam after he was attacked by the McCoy/Salt-sucker in the Man Trap was in the black shirt only.

It’s funny, that the designer thinks he thought up the two-piece approach when it was actually the original design for the 1st season uniforms

171. Holger - February 27, 2009

44 thorsten: “Time that we start that reboot”
A buddy of mine is an amateur director who’s been dreaming about doing this for many years :-)
I’d prefer ‘Raumpatrouille – Die nächste Generation’ over a reboot, however.
But should it ever come (hasn’t Pro7 been holding the rights to the show for decades?) I’m sure they’ll go along with remake-mania.

172. Star Trackie - February 27, 2009

#113 “And had you ever noticed how the set would wobble back and forth when the doors opened and closed? ”

Actually I haven’t. Would love an example of when the sets actually wobble as the doors opened.

173. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Re: #37 I agree on the bridge props. Even in TOS, Sulu had that super cool helm scanner that would rise out and retract back into the console. I’m amazed they got that prop to work on camera.

174. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

And the story I heard on the black undershirt collars was that (1) wearing two layers under the studio lights was very hot – you can see people sweating constantly on the bridge as it is, and (2) the shirts would ride around making the collar look thin, fat, then crooked, etc. The uniforms were incorporated into a single tunic with black collar for the sake of convenience, comfort, and appearance.

175. Iowagirl - February 27, 2009

#172, 113

Me neither – but the first TV set I owned was a real pratfall, too…:D

176. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

I will not allow the scanners (as noted above, the scanners on the helm and the black ones seen behind Chekov’s head near what was traditionally the science station are both contemporary off the shelf products), but CystDrone does make an excellent point that no attempt has been made to disguise the look of these things and they are featured PROMINENTLY. Both set designers and model builders can use all the doodads and widgets they want, but the audience is not supposed to be able to pick them out (you have to look real hard to see R2-D2 on the Close Encounters mothership). Even before the exact scanner models were identified, many of us commented that they looked like barcode scanners and I think most moviegoers are somewhat savvy and some may have the same thought – before dismissing it and going on with the movie.

177. I am Kurok! - February 27, 2009

I was watching Spiderman 2 last night (I just LOVE the 5 dollar DVD bins at Wal-Mart!!) and noted that there is a striking similarity to the approach of Spiderman’s costume to ST: stays true to the original, but gives it a modern flavor and texture. . . .

As for the departure on the pants/boots thing, high-topped ‘beatle-boots’ were cool in the ’60’s, but 40 years later, you have to question their functionality (and comfort!) No, I think they did a fantastic job with the uniforms: a couple of the cast members commented that fans were going to be blown-away by the look, in my opinion, they were right.

I wonder if Pine will be wearing the Captain’s wraparound green tunic in future movies. . . . .

178. Weerd1 - February 27, 2009

I think someone mentioned it earlier, but I can’t find it now so if I am replicating posts, I apologize. Maybe the Barcode Scanners are… barcode scanners. Barcodes are a quick easy way to transfer large amounts of numeric information. Security concerns may prevent all astrometric or navigational data from simply being stored in the library computer. Aside from encryption, there may be some data protected by being physically recorded in barcode form. You can’t hack into a barcode from afar. Imagine the location of certain secret facilities or support and supply bases, rally points in case of disaster, etc- remember we seem to be dealing with a Federation which has been under a threat for the last twenty or thirty years. They are a bit more gung ho then the one we’re used to. You have to go to secret Earth Base 4077, you pull out the data stick with that location, scan it for authenticity, and then it delivers astrogation information. Since they are FUTURE barcode scanner, they might also be for retina scans, or may even possibly be set for stun in case of bridge invasion. OK, ignore that last part, but I think you get my point. As we’ve seen on previous Trek, flashlights look like 20th century flashlights- why wouldn’t they? That form serves function. 23rd Century chairs still look like 20th Century chairs. That form serves function- why wouldn’t certain scanning equipment maintain a certain form as well?

BTW- I still think the new 1701 has to be at least 600 meters long based on the proportionality of the bridge… unless the new bridge is recessed deeper into the dome, which doesn’t seem likely with the picture of Spock in front of the window with the hull visible outside. Any takers on that debate?

179. Daoud - February 27, 2009

The uniforms and the interview, again were fantastic.

So, good points on the Barcode issue. I’m laughing at the great pun #168 made on the word “symbolism”. :) Since the name of the company….

They could have been disguised by changing the red filter to a blue or violet filter. After all, why use a red scanning laser, when a violet would allow about 3X to 5X as much information to be encoded? :)

To whomever mentioned “circuit boards” as being incongruous in TOS. Well, they built the sets in the mid 1960s. It’s 40 years later, and whaddayaknow, we’re still using circuit boards. Deposition on silicon is unlikely to ever change, because it’s an efficient way to make a circuit permanent with a minimum of wires need. One of the holdups on optoelectronics is that there’s no equivalent means of creating a cheap optoelectronic circuit board.

But I agree with you #178. Let’s assume they’re holstered stun guns. That way, all those aliens that beam on the bridge that Worf never could stun in TNG… well, we won’t have that problem now! :)

180. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Re: 178 If you try to scan your retina with those things, you’re gonna get hurt.

181. Alex Rosenzweig - February 27, 2009

#180 – “BTW- I still think the new 1701 has to be at least 600 meters long based on the proportionality of the bridge… unless the new bridge is recessed deeper into the dome, which doesn’t seem likely with the picture of Spock in front of the window with the hull visible outside. Any takers on that debate?”

Sure! :)

The surface detailing of the ship clearly doesn’t suggest anything like that length. Indeed, based on things like viewport placements, docking port size, etc., I’d say it’s comparable in size to the previous incarnations of the ship.

One complexity is that we still don’t have an “official” view of the dorsal side of the primary hull, save what was in the teaser trailer from a year ago. The toy doesn’t give enough detail to be sure of the configuration of the bridge dome, and while Tobias Richter’s model work is superb, some of it is still speculative. e.g., there’s still the possibility that the main viewer isn’t a window at all, and the visible saucer is simply based on where the camera is located that’s feeding the default view to the screen.

Personally, I suspect one of two things: 1) the bridge is a bit lower in the hull than it was in the original version, or 2) it’s not actually quite as big as some of the shots are making it look. (I remember thinking at first that the Enterprise-D bridge was huge, until midway through the first season when they used an overhead shot looking down into the set, instead of the long, low angles shot across it. That overhead shot revealed that the bridge was only slightly larger than the original ship’s bridge.)

Now I do think that the new bridge is a good bit bigger than the original, but maybe it’s not much more than 25-30% larger, instead of, like, twice as big.

‘Course, much of this is still speculation, pending more imagery, but the other details–viewports, docking ports–are a given.

182. Alex Rosenzweig - February 27, 2009

Sheesh… the number changed again. Okay, #179, then. ;)

183. VZX - February 27, 2009

The uniforms are the only thing about the new movie that I really, really like! With one exception: I don’t get why Uhuru’s uniform is short-sleeved.

184. naHQun - February 27, 2009

You guys must have more detailed monitors, I don’t see any detailing.

185. KDoug - February 27, 2009

#16- Will

I’m with you! I understand that costume designers want to have more upscale looks for movies, but I don’t think the over-textured look is the way to go. In some cases, it doesn’t even make sense. (Wasn’t Spider-Man supposed to have made his costume by himself? How could he have made the movie costume?) Other than that, I like the new Star Trek uniforms. Overall, great job, but I’d lose the boomerang texture if it was up to me.

186. rebecca - February 27, 2009

I hadn’t realized that the pattern on the uniform fabric was actually inspired by the Starfleet “boomerang” logo. Interesting. Actually I think it makes me dislike it slightly less.

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188. weerd1 - February 27, 2009

181- It’s on! But I do concede your points. It is hard to tell just how much bigger the new bridge is. I do think when we get good shots of the ship we will be able to see exactly where the bridge is, once we see the main viewer/window and where it falls. I’d like to see some analysis but someone who knows how to measure proportions on things like the shot of the Enterprise under construction. Maybe the shots from the teaser would help too?

180- it’s cool. They’re FUTURE barcode scanners! Retina safe.

189. I am Kurok! - February 27, 2009

185: you make a good point about the Spiderman thing: Peter Parker couldn’t tie his shoes but he could make one hell of a cool outfit (spares too, at the rate he went through them.) That’s why I absolutely loved “Batman begins:” it explained the origins of the gadgets and costumes, logistical problems and all (sure Wayne is a billionaire, and it’s a given that he can afford the toys, but he still has to cover his tracks: God bless Lucius Fox and trusty old Albert….)

b/t/w, if you get SM-2 Widescreen edition, they have a 20 min featurette on the Spiderman costume that was really interesting.

They sure have those Kelvin-era costumes under tight wraps, don’t they??

And what of the mystery of Pine/Kirk’s all-black starfleet uniform? We saw him as a renegade biker in Iowa, so does he go through a “goth” phase on the Enterprise?? ;-)

190. weerd1 - February 27, 2009

189- POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!

Apparently Kirk is still technically unassigned or even still pending cadet status after the Kobayashi Maru incident, so he’s not allowed to wear the Enterprise uniform yet.

191. donwhite - February 27, 2009

This is what I would like to know, why do you give someone the job if they don’t like or know anything about the company. I am sure some people would have seen this as a dream come true.

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193. Spock - February 27, 2009

As long as Uhura is still wearing hooker boots, I don’t care.

194. ENGON - February 27, 2009

I think the TOS boots were based on 19th Century naval uniform design.

Here’s a photo of someone in a British Naval uniform circa 1812.

http://threadbarestitchery.com/images/Mens%201800/simon-1812-navy.jpg

195. CystDrone - February 27, 2009

#159 I wouldn’t consider ANYTHING on the bridge to be TRIVIAL, its one of the prime locations where important events will happen thru out the movie now and in the future, and we have to put up with $400 bar code scanners haphazardly slapped onto the console? Not only does it break suspension of disbelief it lowers the quality bar..oh the fans will just accept ANYTHING they’re too dumb to notice a bar code scanner here, a soap detergent bottle there its alright! No..its not.
And secondly if you don’t like what Im saying, switch off your computer, step away and get some fresh air. I aint goin nowhere..

196. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 28, 2009

(Okay, CystDrone, the ‘malignant’ part was supposed to be wry, but in writing it come soff heavy handed….)

I agree the bridge is important, it’s just that few viewers will notice the bar-code scanners AS bar-code scanners, even if they notice the resemblance in passing, at some sub-conscious level. It’s conceivable that some device in the future might resemble that model of bar-code scanner, in the way that, say, a future pistol might resemble one of today’s hair-dryers (I use this example because I’ve heard certain Sci-Fi guns compared to hair-dryers before). It’s not like the bar-code scanners still have a visible logo to identify them.

In fact, the way you’re disseminating that image on the web, you may very well be personally responsible for a loss of suspension of disbelief that any readers here experience!

In regard to TOS, I cite the circuit boards because even as a kid, I experienced a momentary loss of suspension of disbelief when the androids show exposed circuitry that looked like it had been purchased from the Radio Shack right down the street. At least in TNG, they make Data’s positronic parts look more futuristic (sort of – I mean, we can all tell the used a lot of fiber-optic cables and LEDs, but at least they downplay that fact, unlike in TOS where 60s circuitry is shown as perfectly plausible stand-ins for that of the 23rd century). On the other hand, TNG blew it with Geordie’s VISOR, which from day one I identified as a closed banana hair-clip.

In all cases, though, the suspension of disbelief that I myself have experienced has been momentary, and if the story is good enough, it doesn’t matter. I want to see how you might explain away those silly etched glass panels, though…..

197. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 28, 2009

194 ENGON — Well, Star Trek is supposed to be Horatio Hornblower in space, so no surprises there….

198. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - February 28, 2009

Follow-up to 196 — Come to think of it, when I worked at the library when I was going to university 15 years ago, it struck me that the bar-code scanners looked like the phasers on TNG…. It makes me wonder, could the whole gag with the bar-code scanners on the bridge be some kind of colossal in-joke, based on the fact that Star Trek has had a huge cultural influence? I mean, we’ve all noticed how modern-day flip-phones look like the communicators on TOS…..

199. I am Kurok! - February 28, 2009

On the female sleveless uniform-where’s the rank insignia????

200. CystDrone - February 28, 2009

196: No thats cool, its not gonna ruin the movie for me at all either which is probably the ONLY thing Im looking forward to this year, the light in a miserable life right now.
Yea I dunno whats going on with the etched glass either! lol

201. CryoShok - February 28, 2009

The original Theiss uniform did, indeed, have both a black undershirt and the (now iconic) velour department-colored overshirt (or tunic). Anyone who has worn velour knows that it rides like crazy—during filming, actors’ midriffs were being exposed constantly. The black undershirt was tucked into the trousers, with only the black collar showing over the top.

However, during Season 1 filming, it was found that the combination of velour tunic over a cotton/wool blend black undershirt (remember, poly-blend shirts were not yet available to the public in the early ’60’s; DuPont had invented the fabric for NASA’s Gemini and Mercury programs, but it was still “futuristic”) was very hot and uncomfortable.

For Season 2, and onward, the undershirt was done away with, and a looser, slightly longer cut of the velour tunic was subbed-in (with the black collar-loop stiched in to “simulate” the full undershirt).

Anyone who has worked under stage lighting knows how friggin’ HOT those lights are.

Now, as far as the new uniforms are concerned, I think they look good, but I do have a few caveats:

First, why short sleeves for the females, and long sleeves for the males? That doesn’t make sense. Either they all wear long sleeves, or they all wear short sleeves. I know the producers are trying to feature Saldana’s gorgeous physique, but it doesn’t make logical sense.

Second, they’re not “boomerangs,” they’re properly referred to as “deltas.” According to “Mr. Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise,” the iconic Starfleet Delta (instituted fleet-wide sometime after the original 5-year mission, if we don’t include The Animated Series’s second 5-year mission) was, in fact, the Enterprise’s blazon. Prior to that (2260’s-era Starfleet and earlier), each ship had it’s own, unique blazon. Since we don’t know if the delta blazon is restricted to just the Enterprise, or not, in the new film, I’ll hold my judgment. I’m very interested to see the (highly classified) uniforms of the Kelvin’s crew, and see if their blazon is, indeed, unique. I don’t mind the silver color of the delta and rank braiding, though. The department colors are a bit subdued, however.

Third, I like a textured weave, but am not wild about the “boomerang” (nee delta) pattern, for the same reason I stated, above. If this is a universal Starfleet uniform pattern, and the delta blazon is the Enterprise’s unique symbol, why would *all* of Starfleet incorporate a delta-weave into their general uniform? Unless there’s a *reason* for it…

Anyhow, there’s my thoughts on it.

Comments?

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203. Mallory - April 22, 2009

I must’ve missed the memo that told us to start calling the Starfleet Deltas ‘boomerangs’.

Crikey.

204. Dualla - June 17, 2009

I also have a shoe query, Uhura’s boots had a hiking shoe rugged soles and a patterned leather hem at the top, very unique. Did Michael Kaplan mention where the shoes and boots for the movie came from? I know that the Vulcan’s shoes came from Glerups:
http://www.glerups.dk
And Uhura’s lucite “Pod” earrings are by Alexis Bittar, so it’s cool that much of the costumes are stuff we can buy.

205. Josh2 - January 4, 2010

Does Anyone know who made the underwear that Capt. Kirk wears in the scene with Gaila?

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