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ST09 Tidbits (T-70 days): New Nero Image + Premiere Tickets Contest + Bad Robot Sighting + more February 26, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

The tidbits are coming fast right now. Our Trek minus 70 day edition starts off with a brand new image from the Star Trek movie. Also this afternoon, Lenovo announced a new contest that could send you and your friends to the Star Trek premiere. Check all that out below.

 

Say hello to Mr. Nero
The April issue of Total Film Magazine (on Sale March 5th) features a big Star Trek cover story that will have ‘expansive looks at Trek past and present.’ And just this afternoon they are showing off an exclusive new image from the new Star Trek movie of Eric Bana as Nero having a chat with Kirk and Spock.


Eric Bana’s Nero gets in the face of Kirk and Spock

Bana is also quoted at Total film, saying of Nero

He’s intent on mass destruction… sometimes brooding, sometimes lacking self-control. I knew he was someone I could have a bit of fun with.

The Star Trek issue of Total Film, comes with four collectible covers as well. More info, higher res images and quotes from Zachary Quinto (Spock), Zoe Saldana (Uhura), and Chris Pine (Kirk) at TotalFilm.com.


Total Film goes Total Trek for their April Issue

New Contest: Win Tickets To Star Trek Red Carpet Premiere
Paramount’s promotional partner Lenovo (the ones that gave away the Kelvin laptop) has another Star Trek sweepstakes, and this time it is even better. They are giving away two prize packages:

  1. A trip for four to the red-carpet Hollywood premiere of Star Trek
  2. A trip for four for a Zero G flight

The ‘New Frontier Sweepstakes‘ is open now through May 8th, however the drawing for the Star Trek movie premiere trip will take place on April 3 (entries received after this date will only be eligible for the Zero Gravity Flight prize). There is also a way to increase the odds of winning by inviting friends to enter the contest as well. For more details and to enter go to boldlygo.intel.com/newfrontiers.


Lenovo could send you to the Star Trek red carpet!

Bad Robot sighting
In our review Countdown #2, the second issue of the Star Trek prequel comic which came out yesterday, we neglected to mention that artist David Messina dropped another one of his Easter Eggs into on of the shots (on page 22). Many friends and readers emailed us to point out our omission. So, if you look closely at a meeting between Spock and Picard on Vulcan, you can see a robot off to the right, notably a Bad Robot (the mascot of JJ Abrams production company, also named ‘Bad Robot’).


The Bad Robot has to sit in the corner!

Thorsten’s Art Gallery – Uhura (via Warhol)
Resident artist Thorsten Wulff has his second entry in the ‘Star Trek cast as pop art’ series (see previous Tidbits for Spock via Shepard Fairey). Today it is Uhura’s turn…reimagined through the eyes of Andy Warhol. 


Uhura…famous for far more than 15 minutes
(click to enlarge)

Thanks to everyone who send in links (there are too many to name, but we love you all)

Comments

1. Joel - February 26, 2009

Nice image! Looking forward to the update in an hr!

2. wicketsc - February 26, 2009

Cool.

3. Rob - February 26, 2009

Nice – but the man in the view screen looks a bit too human to be a cold Romulan

4. Decker Unit - February 26, 2009

It looks like you can see through Nero’s face.

5. Cobalt 1365 - February 26, 2009

Cool picture. But Nero looks like the Magrathea representative from Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. “Good Morning, Captain Kirk, we appreciate the interest you have in the Romulan Star Empire, we hope you appreciate the two thermonuclear warheads we have sent to greet you. Have a nice day!”

6. tony - February 26, 2009

first? sweet, i like the distortion of the view screen.

7. Can't Wait for May 2008 - February 26, 2009

Im hoping in next weeks new trailer, they put in alittle more of Nero. Im a Eric Bana fan and im really curious on how his performance is going to be. Looking at the pic, I can not tell if the new view screen is suppose to be 3-D? It has the look that it could but im not sure.

8. Ian - February 26, 2009

Looks good, the view screen looks pretty nifty also!

9. keith - February 26, 2009

Yeah!!

10. Anthony Pascale - February 26, 2009

first update…new CONTEST….win tickets to the premiere

11. Lousy_Canadian - February 26, 2009

YAY!!! At least Spock doesn’t look waxy/plastic for this cover. lol

12. Cobalt 1365 - February 26, 2009

Thanks, Anthony! Contest entered

13. Anthony Pascale - February 26, 2009

added Bad Robot sighting

14. Odkin - February 26, 2009

Shouldn’t Spock would have the technical expertise to set the correct aspect ratio on that viewscreen?

It’s like being at Grandma’s house with her 4:3 ratio TV picture stretched to fill her new 16:9 screen.

15. Enc - February 26, 2009

sorry im giving it a thumbs down.

16. Rastaman - February 26, 2009

Looks kind of like a sneering bodiless head in space. Hmmm … kind of cheesy. But it’s out of context, so who knows?

17. The Gorn Identity - February 26, 2009

Wow…I just read Countdown #2 and I totally didn’t notice the bad robot in that panel. I guess I was too distracted by the Enterprise-D model on the opposite side of the frame.

18. fred - February 26, 2009

Isn’t that our ORIGINAL Enterprise in model form there? What does that portend or mean? The way it was before time was altered?

19. fred - February 26, 2009

OK, I see now it is the Ent D. My bad, couldn’t tell at first with that small image. Shucks.

20. Rick Moyer - February 26, 2009

I am going to enter now! Thanks! cool little bad robot cameo. hehehe.

21. Rusbeh - February 26, 2009

Why is Kirk (Chris Pine) taler than Spock (Zachario Quinto)????
I believe the so called supreme court hasn´t done his homework on this one since Spock (Nimoy) is considerably taler than Kirk (Shatner).
Annoys me and will influence the dynamic of the scene a bit imo.
The Pic is strange, Nero face is disproportioned, looks more like a balloon

22. Anthony Pascale - February 26, 2009

OK article finished with four ‘tidbits’ today…enjoy

23. Steve-O - February 26, 2009

# 3 — Strangely, I had the same thoughts.
#21 — I think its simple perspective, look at the trailer again when they’re side by side and the voice over says something like “just depends what choice you’ll make” (something like that) and you’ll see that Spock is a little taller than Kirk.

24. Kertrats - February 26, 2009

Cool stuff, I love the Bad Robot sighting… very cool!

Also, the Warhol Uhura is pretty sweet.

25. The Vulcanista }:- | - February 26, 2009

Nice work Thorsten!! Love the Warhol Pop style!

26. CystDrone - February 26, 2009

21: Sigh, I’ll walk you thru this ok? It seems obvious that they are getting away with the ‘perfect’ view screen image..you know how whenever they view the crew of another ship via their viewscreen, its always a ‘picture perfect’ image, camera set up in just the right place ect? Well it seems here that its more realistic in that the settings for Nero’s camera isn’t so picture perfect as a federation starship, just as if you where gonna have a web cam chat to someone their camera might not be in perfect working order?

Get me?

Also it looks like the view screen is holographic in some way.

27. The Governator - February 26, 2009

Hello? Is this thing working?

Dear Anthony, I have tried to post a comment in the section about the uniforms, but it is rejected. I am curious as to why? Have I done something wrong? It says that a duplicate post was deleted.

28. Dr. Image - February 26, 2009

So the main viewscreen is now a really bad heads-up display with lousy anti-reflection coating.
OK fine.

Love the robot, though.

29. The Governator - February 26, 2009

Anyway, this looks cool. Can’t wait for more.

30. Darkwing - February 26, 2009

it looks like there are sparks and thingsin nero’s ship, so maybe it’s the ol damaged ship scenario, and nero’s image is therefore twitching, and we just got the bad stretch twitch. anyways, i love that viewscreen, it looks so 60, yet sleek and modern, too cool!

31. Jesse - February 26, 2009

It looks like the screen has reflections on it, like a window. I don’t think I like it.

32. G - February 26, 2009

Every pic of this viewscreen loons like they forgot to coat the screen with anti-glare. LOL Doesn’t Starfleet have HD??

33. Chadwick - February 26, 2009

My god people….1+1=2? The view screen is not 3D and it is probably distorted because there is interference with the transmission…c’mon, how many times has that been on Star Trek. Go watch the trailer again to see what the view screen looks like i.e. when they drop out of warp in the debris field….no 3D, no hologram, no distortion.

@ 14 I agree, I don’t understand people who stretch 4:3 to fit a 16:9 tv and think it looks ok, I would rather watch 4:3 with the black bars.

34. AJ - February 26, 2009

Thorsten does it again!.

I think the “viewscreen” photo is begging for a caption contest.

1. Kirk: “Mirror Mirror on the Wall, Who’s the bad-assest one of all?”

2. Spock: “We;re running a special on the extended warranty for this baby…Take 2 years, and we’ll throw in a Blu-Ray player.”

3. Kirk: “He looks really fat, Spock. Why must you watch everything in widescreen?”

4. Nero: “You now have three Earth time periods, known as minutes!”

Kirk: “I saw this one last week, Spock. Let’s watch Battlestar.”

35. Swollen Ballz - February 26, 2009

Slowly my guard is dropping on the new film! I think I really have an open mind as to what JJ is going to give us! Warp Speed ahead….Come on MAY!

36. Mike Ten - February 26, 2009

Not to spoil anything, but for the people who have read Countdown #2 I have to ask: After what happens to a certain planet on the last page, why doesn’t Nero use time travel to fix it instead of taking it out on Kirk and Spock in the upcoming movie?

This could be a mute question if the remaining two issues of Countdown explain why….

37. Olley Olley Olley - February 26, 2009

^^^
slowly you stalk the the forums worrying about who gives a fug
Trek gets better and better

38. Captain Roy Mustang - February 26, 2009

Face to face eye to eye this movie gonna rock

39. Olley Olley Olley - February 26, 2009

TREAK MOVIE IS NOT FOR FANS
by JJ ABRAMS

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a147927/abrams-new-star-trek-not-for-trekkies.html

mmmmmm

40. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

39. Olley Olley Olley

old news.. go check a few articles back.. you missed the discussion then.

41. Montreal Paul - February 26, 2009

Thorsten, great job on the Uhura Warhol!! I was just mentioning Warhol on the boards today with someone. How freaky is that?!? Looks great!

42. The Last Maquis - February 26, 2009

concerning the new Nero image:

…..So?

big “F’in’ deal.

43. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - February 26, 2009

ok.im in the sweepstakes. I hope i win. I like the new images of Nero. Looks to be great.

44. Harry Ballz - February 26, 2009

Just checked the official rules for the Trek tickets contest and, AS USUAL, it’s only for residents of the U.S.A.!

Funny how these companies are quite happy to take money for their products from anybody around the world, they just don’t want to extend the courtesy to entering any of their contests!

Shame!

45. Colonel West - February 26, 2009

That Nero pic reminds me of Holly from Red Dwarf, or the big giant head from Third Rock From The Sun who was played by…. ;)

and for my fellow UK & Ireland readers: Gamesmaster! All he needs is the monocle.

it looks like there’s some serious plot exposition going on in that shot too, hopefully not along the lines of last weeks BSG (which I still thought kicked ass, but then again I’m one of the few who liked “Black Market”); “show, don’t tell”, rule 101! not that i’m advocating the Michael Bay school of film making with Trek of course…

[joke] Cue Bob Orci with a wonderfully glib comment at some stage… [/joke]

46. Cap - February 26, 2009

Yay, I’m with you on this one Harry Ballz (#44). Another contest for only the United States. :P Thanks guys.

47. Carolyn - February 26, 2009

Very interesting. Bana looks great as Nero. I’ve love the Black and White shaded photos of the main cast (on Total Film) since they first came out. Especially the one of Quinto as Spock. It is interesting that Pine’s Kirk and Bana’s Nero hold the same pose in those shots.

Thanks for all the updates!

48. Harry Ballz - February 26, 2009

Regarding Nero’s floating head on the viewscreen……anybody remember the villian’s floating head in The Last Starfighter?

That effect was cheesy then and this effect is cheesy NOW!

49. Carolyn - February 26, 2009

One question for those who have read Countdown… does the Federation know that Romulans look like Vulcans before they see Nero? Is that an issue for the humans like it was in TOS’s Balance of Terror?

Thanks!

50. Fleet Captain Kor'Tar - February 26, 2009

With the distortion in the thumbnail , it almost looked like Nero was the Face of Beau from Dr.Who for a minute . LOL!

Bad Robot ! No Earl Grey for you!!! LOL!

51. OneBuckFilms - February 26, 2009

49 – Countdown takes place in the 24th Century, some 80+ years after Balance of Terror. The Federation knows a LOT more about the romulans and their appearance than they did in Balance of Terror.

52. 11 - February 26, 2009

Nero: “MCFRY!!!!”

53. Adam Cohen - February 26, 2009

The article says: “…the drawing for the Star Trek movie premiere trip will take place on April 3 (entries received after this date will only be eligible for the Zero Gravity Flight prize).”

Just a heads up to everyone– the Official Rules state that entries received after April 2, 2009 will only be eligible for the Zero Gravity Flight Prize.

54. AJ - February 26, 2009

52:

So the Pike-era Enterprise DOES have printers…

“Read my fax!”

“You’re fired!”

55. Colonel West - February 26, 2009

54: and it’s not a bar code scanner, it’s a 23rd century printer that will just spew a printout of that all over the bridge and there’s nothing they an do about it!

56. RD - February 26, 2009

That’s so much more effective way to visually communicate with people, through a glare of reflections with distracting objects and astronomical phenomenon shining and flying around behind a translucent image in space. Oh brother. Do they really need to see what’s happening in the universe at the same time they communicate with the bad guy? Aren’t there like 16 other people on the bridge who can be keeping tabs with what is going on outside the ship instead? Wouldn’t a more effective approach be to have the image be a split screen composite like the technique used on “24” or security surveillance monitors? Thank you JJ, Star Trek would be so dull without you at the helm.

57. Will - February 26, 2009

I sincerely hate that the viewscreen is now apparently a HUD. I mean, how much more Knightrider 2000 could you get than that? Sure, it’s used on fighter jets, in Corvettes and various other cars, but still… it’s just… gah. Me no likey.

I hope I win that contest to go to the premiere so that I can at least be certain I get something good from this movie, even if it sucks, who can beat a free trip to a red carpet screening?

I wonder if the free movie screening “test audience” guys here in NYC will be doing a screening of this movie. It’d be nice to see it for free to know if I actually want to blow $12 on seeing it.

58. jason - February 26, 2009

makes sense to me…why would an unknown alien race have perfectly compatible video technology?

59. cpelc - February 26, 2009

52:

man that made me laugh.

Kirk must’ve made a deal with Flea.

I’ve always wanted Pizza Hut to make those expanding pizzas from B2F – 2.

60. Capt. Roykirk. - February 26, 2009

39

When I first saw that quote I thought he meant that appeasing Trekkies was not his only goal, but to get other scifi action movie fans to like it as well. I’m starting to think it’s more like “Screw what you Trekkies want, This is my movie and I’m going to do what I want. Bwa haa ha ha!!”
Seems like he only took the most basic Trek ideas, i.e. People named Kirk, Spock, McCoy etc. on a spaceship named Enterprise. But what they, the ship and everything else looks like doesn’t matter.

61. FSL - February 26, 2009

My first reaction was “Face of Boe” (the Nero pic)

62. Devon - February 26, 2009

Hello? Test Test.

63. Trekkie88 - February 27, 2009

I have a feeling that JJ has reimagined the viewscreen. I think the the viewscreen is actually a window in the new film & images are somehow projected or something onto the transparent aluminum. That’s what it looks like to me anyway.

Re: #32, StarFleet doesn’t “pony up” with HD until “The Undiscovered Country”, & its not just HD, its DirecTV HD.

64. Harry Ballz - February 27, 2009

#63

I smell a plug!

65. SChaos1701 - February 27, 2009

56

Maybe the HUD is more for the Captain. All he has is a chair with a few controls.

66. captain_neill - February 27, 2009

63

My fear is that you are probably right

it is one of many things I wish JJ left alone.

It’s a cool effect however and could be a garbled communication, but so much has been changed I am no longer concerned about changes, I have decided I will enjoy the film but I won’t be trating it as canon.

67. Paulaner - February 27, 2009

#63 “I have a feeling that JJ has reimagined the viewscreen. I think the the viewscreen is actually a window in the new film & images are somehow projected or something onto the transparent aluminum. That’s what it looks like to me anyway.”

Maybe you are right, and in my opinion that would be really cool! I am all for new takes and fresh ideas.

68. TrekMadeMeWonder - February 27, 2009

#63. So. Its OK for Scotty to mess with the timeline? ; )

How rediculos (esp. after Blade Runner) for an opposing commander to be able to view his enemy’s Bridge, and perhaps with holography, the whole thing. What a loss of security.

Hopefully, what I am seeing is a good idea, and is finally being presented onscreen. Even in ST Next Generation’s “Heart of Glory” episode, the Kingons have been shown to appear onscreen with only a limited and closley cropped image. Surely they appreciated the security of privacy. Why give up that data toan enemy? And the new Spoiler pic reminds me of Next Gen screenshot too. See here….

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/
federation_emblem/2364-klingon-heartofglory.jpg

My wish would be for Kirk and company to have their image is also displayed as cryptically. Perhaps they are standing closer to the front of the bridge so that thier image to transmitted abroad as discretely.

The effect, for me, is real nice too. The shot looks real and is impressive. My guess is that it will look look twice as nice in motion onscreen.

I look forward to it!

ps. It does say 1791 in the corner. Nero looks very smug. Looks to me like the E, Kirk and company are trapped in Neros tentacles. Sorry if that spoils. But that new image above was the instigator.

69. Check the Circuit - February 27, 2009

#36

I think you mean “moot” point. Mute/Moot is one of the most commonly misused words in the English language. (Someone pointed out my misuse a few years back. Paying it forward.)

Moot Point: A comment that is irrelevant given new information or the circumstances.

Mute Point: A comment that can’t be spoken or heard. (I made that part up.)

70. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@68…
well, we can assume that this moment is after Kirk and Sulu stopping the drill, and before Spock drops Kirk on Delta Vega. That means Pike is still guest on the Narada…

71. TrekMadeMeWonder - February 27, 2009

I thought the bridge dome was supposed to be transparent?

I guess I agree with the NO WINDOW theorists.

But, my thought was, if the power goes out it would be nice to be able to see out into space from the bridge. It’s the top of the ship! Perhaps that is what they are doing here. Remember this is NOT the real Enterprise. The ship we have seen (from the secret Federation transmissions we received in the 60s) was, (or will be?) much different.

I wonder what the closing credits will be like. I’d like to see some serious Enterprise ship montages, in all thier incarnations, displayed alongside or zooming by.

72. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@41…

Paul, in my experience, there’s no such thing as coincidence ;))

73. Commander K - February 27, 2009

Even more proof Nero is related to SHinzon! :-P

Maybe

74. Commander K - February 27, 2009

and what the hell! Again only US RESIDENTS get to enter the competition. disaapointing.

75. Jason - February 27, 2009

is Nero in 3D??

76. That Guy - February 27, 2009

That’s a very bad picture of

Nero unless it’s 3D. If not

someone really screwed

that one BIG TIME!

77. Jason - February 27, 2009

Might be cool if some aspects of the film – little touches like the screen were in 3D – something cool for the Blue-Ray?

78. Andros - February 27, 2009

@ 76

Right, because when taking a still from a film in which the scene has a moving object on another screen its always going to look crisp. My guess is that its supposed to look somewhat flawed and holographic. The first step to the holodeck on Federation ships could have started with the viewscreen.

79. Raphael Salgado - February 27, 2009

You’d think hundreds of years into the future, they would have implemented the 4:3-to-16:9 “smart stretching” feature onto their viewscreen that my high-definition LCD TV already has. Sure, it’ll make your shoulders look big, but at least the image in the center doesn’t look squashed or stretched. ;)

80. I am Kurok! - February 27, 2009

76: I think that Nero’s image on the viewscreen is something akin to the “heads-up display” on present-day military fighter aircraft: you can see the image, but you still get a view of the outside from the windshield. You can get a communications visual without losing ‘situational awareness’ of what’s going on around you. Considering that the E is essentially a 23rd Century warship, it makes perfect sense (and its something that they couldn’t do in TOS.)

Did anyone notice that the other robot in the comic frame looks dead-on like an EVA pod from ‘2001?’

81. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

It does seem to be a window that doubles as a viewer. The distorted, in-your-face Nero does harken back to the image of Balock back in the good old days. He’s not a floating head, though, he’s just wearing dark clothing in a dark room.

I think the camera angle is also used to give him the look of a home-made terrorist or radical, which modern audiences can relate to. Somwhow, he’s hobbled this massive killing ship together for some terrible purpose and his dispatches, threats, warnings, etc. have the hand held look of a bin Laden video or clip seen on Youtube.

82. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Kurok. Yeah, it looks like an EVA pod, but I wouldn’t want to have to squeeze into it. It’s a tad small.

83. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Oh, and Anthony. I don’t know if the comic was supposed to link to an enlargement, but it links to the Lenovo site instead.

84. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Regarding HUD. Practically speaking, there’d be very little you could see from a window on the bridge of the Enterprise – you wouldn’t even have the option to magnify image, which was essential. But even in TOS, the majority of information came from Sulu’s helm station, Spock’s science station, and the ship’s computer. What’s really funny, is that in TOS the shields were automatic. Sulu would sometimes comment that the shields had “snapped on” before he even knew why. That sure would have helped in Wrath of Khan, wouldn’t it?

85. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@84…

in the following example Sulu only reported about M-5s actions…

SULU: Captain, deflector shields just came on.
(scenes later)
CHEKOV: Sir, deflector shield just came on. Speed increasing to warp four.
(scenes later)
CHEKOV: Sir, deflector shields have dropped.

The Ultimate Computer

86. I am Kurok! - February 27, 2009

83: So, what you’re saying is “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that..” :-)

84: You are right from a logical standpoint, but the HUD thing would make for cool visuals-don’t forget that ST uses (or in the case of seatbelts on the bridge, omits) some things for dramatic effect. Way back when someone asked Gene Roddenberry why they used the “swoosh” sound effect when the E zips across the screen in the beginning credits of TOS, when there’s no sound in space. Of course, he replied that it gave the audience a sense of speed and power.

87. DaveM - February 27, 2009

Yeah the Bad Robot is nice, but in that same panel there is what appears to be one of the pods from 2001: a space adyssey.

88. I am Kurok! - February 27, 2009

I think Bana’s a great actor, and it sounds like he really sunk his teeth into this role, and he may stand out as an iconic ST villain right up there with Montalban as Khan. It’s great when you can hate a movie villain for what he stands for, but love him for his intensity and style (example, Heath Leadger in BTDK.)

89. Derf - February 27, 2009

‘Red’ carpet?

Nothing good could come of that :(

90. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

Re: 84.

I’m pretty sure it was more than M5. I think the shields came on in response to Nomad, among others.

Re: 86. I know about dramatic license, but I was just replying to your comment that the current configuration would allow you to see out the window and keep an eye on things while talking to Nero, but that in a 3-dimensional sphere of activity where trouble can come from any direction, the sensors have always been the primary source of data that will save their asses.

91. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

A-HA! Found it. I’m not senile yet!

SULU: Captain, shields just snapped on. Something heading in at multiwarp speeds.
KIRK: Evasive manoeuvres, Mister Sulu.
SPOCK: An extremely powerful bolt of energy, Captain.
KIRK: Full power to the shields, Mister Scott.
SCOTT: Giving them all we got.
KIRK: All hands, Red Alert. Phaser banks stand by. Photon torpedoes to Condition Red, Condition Red.
(The viewscreen fills with a ball of bright light.)
SULU: It’s going to hit.
(Everyone gets thrown around a lot, and the lights go out for a short while.)
SCOTT: Shields still holding, sir.
KIRK: Good.

92. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#3—“Nice – but the man in the view screen looks a bit too human to be a cold Romulan”

Except for the eyebrows and the ears…

93. Kirk's Girdle - February 27, 2009

From “The Immunity Syndrome”:
KYLE: Captain, deflector shields just snapped on.

94. Shatner_Fan_Prime - February 27, 2009

I miss the traveling lights at the bottom of the screen. Always loved those.

95. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@93…

you are right, in both cases!
In case of Star Trek XI there seem to be no autoshields…

96. Gary 7 - February 27, 2009

That’s not Nero… It’s BALOK!

97. cpelc - February 27, 2009

remember how close up the ferengi were in the Last Outpost?

kinda reminds me of that

98. John from Cincinnati - February 27, 2009

How can Nero, a Romulan, be talking face-to-face to Kirk and Spock if the Federation doesn’t see a Romulan until ‘Balance of Terror”?

99. John from Cincinnati - February 27, 2009

There are so many reflections on the viewscreen it makes it hard to see what they’re looking at.

100. AJ - February 27, 2009

98:

New timeline. Also, we don’t know if Nero introduces himself as a Romulan. Ears aside, he doesn’t look typical.

101. smarkey - February 27, 2009

100. AJ – February 27, 2009

“New timeline. Also, we don’t know if Nero introduces himself as a Romulan. Ears aside, he doesn’t look typical.”

But then again, they wouldn’t know what a “typical” Romulan looks like, would they? :)

102. TrekMadeMeWonder - February 27, 2009

98. John from Cincinnati

Get your quantum house in order. This is not, nor could it be, the “real” Enterprise and crew we know. It’s only a quantum variant.

I think once everyone gets that, it won’t be so bad. In fact, it may be great!

103. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@99…

There is an glare free option build to order, John…

104. John from Cincinnati - February 27, 2009

102.

A quantum variant?

So, then moving forward this new variant essentially erases TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. Any new shows made from this point forward will all be new and the shows I mentioned before are relegated to our old VHS bin?

What if we want to see what happens in the original timeline?

105. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#98—“How can Nero, a Romulan, be talking face-to-face to Kirk and Spock if the Federation doesn’t see a Romulan until ‘Balance of Terror”?”

How can you not have that figured out yet?

Starfleet was only unaware of the physical appearance of the Romulans in the undisturbed timeline (at least undisturbed by the timeline incursion of 2233–whether it was disturbed by the “Temporal Cold War” depicted in ENT is another matter). Since Nero comes from the post-Nemesis (Prime timeline) era, his appearance prior to the attack upon the “Earth Outposts” along the Neutral Zone is a new variable. Presumably, Nero’s actions (interfering with the past) are the primary catalysts in altering the timeline to begin with.

This doesn’t mean that the events depicted in “Balance Of Terror” never occurred the way we know it. They have occurred in the very timeline in which the film’s story begins. It seems unlikely, however, that they will occur again—at least in the way we know it.

It could be that the lone “Bird Of Prey” does indeed attack the Earth outposts again. The Enterprise may intercept and defeat it again under Captain Kirk’s command. However, the Romulans’ similar appearance to their Vulcan cousins would obviously no longer be such a surprise.

106. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#104—“…moving forward this new variant essentially erases TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.”

It doesn’t “erase” anything. The events depicted in all 5 tv shows still must happen exactly the way we have seen them. Otherwise, the broader story could never advance to the point where Nero and Nimoy’s Spock decide to travel back in time in the post-Nemesis era. This new altered timeline cannot exist without those events having taken place in another timeline.

Why are you pretending that you don’t already know this?

107. frederick - February 27, 2009

That screen looks like a bad 70’s projection TV picture.

108. Bart - February 27, 2009

Look at that pic of Kirk and Spock in front of the viewscreen. Look at them standing there…I mean look at THE WAY they are standing there. Seems to me that’s the Kirk and Spock we’ve ALWAYS KNOWN!!

I can’t wait for this friggin’ movie!!!

109. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#107—My projection tv didn’t look that bad. I’m sure there is a cause for the apparent interference. It is certainly more convincing than the “static” on the screen in TWOK.

110. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@109…

http://tinyurl.com/c2559r

;))

111. Charles Trotter - February 27, 2009

In Countdown #2, there is also a reference to Memory Alpha, the which Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman used when writing Trek and during the film’s production. I forget the page, but it’s when Nero is looking through the Enterprise database. There were four subjects he was denied access to — three of which were relevant to the plot (I think Red Matter, Decalithium, and the Hobus system). The other was Memory-Alpha, with a dash, a reference to the Memory Alpha website, http://www.memory-alpha.org.reference, as well as the library seen in TOS’ “The Lights of Zetar.” To whomever was responsible, thanks for that little tip-of-the-hat! :)

112. NCC-73515 - February 27, 2009

Will Paris and Torres watch this with their safety goggles?
Note that this is no longer the NCC-1701, but the NCC/1701 :(

113. Charles Trotter - February 27, 2009

Wow, allow me to correct my terrible writing above.

The site is http://www.memory-alpha.org

For those few who have never heard of it, click above. It’s a wiki, basically Wikipedia for Star Trek info. I am an admin and frequent editor there.

114. ucdom - February 27, 2009

Has it occurred to anyone that maybe the Enterprise viewscreen is just FINE, but that Nero has a really crappy webcam? ;-)

Any word yet on THE MUSIC !!!!!!!!!

115. thorsten - February 27, 2009

@113…
Hi Charles and a big Hello to Newport News!

116. Trekkie88 - February 27, 2009

The only thing that I wish JJ didn’t change was the look of the Romulans. I like the TNG era Romulans the best. Nero doesn’t even have the olive skin that the TNG Romulans had. I can deal with all the other changes, viewscreen, nacelles, ship being built in Iowa, etc. But he just doesn’t look like a Romulan! He looks like a wrestler with a tattoo on his forehead & costume store pointed ears! I don’t usually complain, but I just had to get this concern which I have had since the first image Nero came out off my chest.

117. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#116—-“The only thing that I wish JJ didn’t change was the look of the Romulans. I like the TNG era Romulans the best… But he just doesn’t look like a Romulan! ”

I think he should look like a Vulcan.

I am happy to see Romulans, once again, without those ridiculously overdone ridges. There should not, IMO, be any significant physical differences between Romulans and their Vulcan cousins. Given that both races evolved on the same planet and any Romulan exodus would have occurred after the development of space-faring capabilities on Vulcan, there doesn’t seem to be any reasonable explanation for such a radical evolutionary turn for those who left.

118. Paulaner - February 27, 2009

We will know that Star Trek is really reborn when they get a TV series out of this. Star Trek belongs to television. Another exciting TOS five year mission, please! :)

119. Frederick - February 27, 2009

The “window/viewscreen” theory is fine till you look on the outside of the ship and there’s no big window up there.

120. DGill - February 27, 2009

#114

Nero is a Skype user. Go figure!

121. ucdom - February 27, 2009

#120

I’d love to see Nero wearing a headset, and the convo held up by embarassing echoes and delays; “Hey, can I just MSN you guys?”

122. John from Cincinnati - February 27, 2009

Again, if this movie is successful then we will not be seeing any new stories in the prime timeline, essentially killing off that timeline. Anyone wanting to see new stories won’t be able to. We will only be seeing new stories in the new quantum variant timeline from this point forward. A cute little way to “reset” the universe. Which begs the question, what happens to Picard, Ryker, Sisko, Janeway? The Enterprise D, E, F, etc. The Klingon/Federation peace. So no, the old timeline isn’t relevant anymore. It is only to collect dust in some museum somewhere. What is a person to do, watch all the old episodes knowing there is a terminal end point to the series after Nemesis and that it will all get rebooted again?

What would be interesting is if they have the two timelines converge at a certain point. Of course, by following the strict rules of quantum physics that would be impossible, both universes would cease to exist the moment that happened. Hmmm…..

123. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#122—“What is a person to do, watch all the old episodes knowing there is a terminal end point to the series after Nemesis and that it will all get rebooted again?”

It isn’t a terminal end point. The story continues. It simply goes to the altered 23rd Century once the timeline incursion takes place. Why should Star Trek canon be restricted to the linear passage of time, when that very canon has–from the very first season–made clear that the potential for altered timelines is very much a part of that fictional universe?

124. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#122—“So no, the old timeline isn’t relevant anymore. It is only to collect dust in some museum somewhere.”

Of course it’s relevant. It is just as relevant to STXI as TMP is to TWOK.

It’s very simple. One has to happen in order for another to take place.

125. thorsten - February 27, 2009

CT, I really admire your Patience.
You are a Trekevangelist at heart!

126. wilj - February 27, 2009

#124—”It’s very simple. One has to happen in order for another to take place.”

So, why didn’t it in TOS? alternate timeline?

127. Closettrekker - February 27, 2009

#126—I’m not sure what you are asking. If by that you mean that somehow events depicted in TOS were not dependant upon others preceding it, then I would have to disagree.

The events depicted in “Balance Of Terror” obviously must occur before “The Enterprise Incident”.

“Errand Of Mercy” must happen prior to “The Trouble With Tribbles”, “Friday’s Child”, “A Private Little War”, or “The Day Of The Dove”.

The events depicted in all 5 television series and 10 previous films are no less essential to the story in STXI. Without all of that (which forms the timeline in which the film begins), the events depicted in this story cannot happen. The fact that the story takes place in another timeline is irrelevant. One event still leads to another. Star Trek canon is inherently free from being pinned down to one single thread that represents the passage of time.

128. James - February 27, 2009

By some people’s logic, DS9’s ‘Trials and Tribble-ations’ MUST mean that TOS’s ‘The Trouble with Tribbles’ is now totally inaccurate, because it doesn’t have Sisko, Dax, O’Brien and Bashir in the background. It’s ben TOTALLY changed, and so therefore ‘The Trouble with Tribbles’ should be consigned to the dustbin.

Um, no? ‘Cos ‘Trials and Tribble-ations’ wouldn’t have happened without ‘The Trouble with Tribbles’. Sisko & Co. would have had nothing to go back in time to!

And so ST:XI can’t happen without TOS-NEM. It doesn’t mean we’re just going to disregard everything that’s gone before. It just means that the story isn’t as linear as before.

129. wilj - February 27, 2009

#127—”The events depicted in all 5 television series and 10 previous films are no less essential to the story in STXI. Without all of that (which forms the timeline in which the film begins), the events depicted in this story cannot happen.”

Exactly, no arguments from me, fully agree.

“The fact that the story takes place in another timeline is irrelevant. One event still leads to another. ”

This is where I disagree, by using a timemachine going BACK (which is not possible in your OWN timeline as far as I know), he allready creates a different timeline, and the events leading up for his actions (TOS, movies, TNG) no longer HAPPEN THE WAY as they did in HIS timeline.

two examples:

-they beam on a warped ship, in TOS, Movies, and TNG they need to be in transporter range, in this timeline not anymore

-from now on Kirk knows that Spock will survive any accident in the future years (he has seen the old guy), so before returning to spacedock in TSFS he waits for Spock’s rebirth on the Genesis planet so he does not have to steal the Enterprise, or something similar.

Maybe not the finest examples, but that is what I came up with seeing the few fragments from the trailer.

I have no problem with an alternate timeline, but I am on the side of the ones who say “what we whitnessed the last 40 years will be different in the 40 years that follow this movie”, and I may certainly hope so, no point in using all that money to do the same all over again.

What I do not like however, is the fact that these guys did not come together as will be in this movie. Nero’s actions allready created a different timeline before Spock enters, so these guys come together when Pike is still in command , Kirk graduates, and Chekov is 9 years old.

130. wilj - February 27, 2009

#128–“Um, no? ‘Cos ‘Trials and Tribble-ations’ wouldn’t have happened without ‘The Trouble with Tribbles’. Sisko & Co. would have had nothing to go back in time to!
It just means that the story isn’t as linear as before.”

You hit the nail on the head, however I wouldn’t call it “isn”t as linear as before” but a parallel universe.

131. The Quickening - February 27, 2009

Enlarging Nero’s face sorta accentuate just how cheesy the character looks; he comes off as a bald headed human with painted face and pointed ears–straight out of a 60s Doctor Who TV episode. I guess that kinda fits in with the 60s mini-skirts and go-go boots, so at least the makers are being consistent. LOL. Actually, I like most of the design of the film, just not the three items mentioned.

132. Alex Rosenzweig - February 27, 2009

Interestingly, even if the film has set up an alternate timeline, it may wel be the case that said alternate timeline would again synch up with the original. Indeed, some of the interviews from the folks involved in the movie suggest that it would do just that.

I for one would hope that this would not be an excuse to pretend that all the rest of Trek is no longer relevant, and that future stories could still be consistent with those prior adventures, even if the character backstories are a little different as established in the new film. (After all, technically, the events of “Yesteryear” also changed the timeline, but when it was all over, the differences were indeed quite subtle and not a rejection of all that had already been created.) But I guess we’ll have to wait ’til May to find out.

133. TrekMadeMeWonder - February 27, 2009

Come what may, I will be there.

134. Dan - February 28, 2009

Kirk: Can we please remove the glare, and the blurriness.

Sulu: We can’t sir…

Kirk: Well they could in the 21st century! (now annoyed)

Spock: Interesting.

Kirk: At least we could of got a screen…

135. Paul - February 28, 2009

Total Film too? What’s up with this?

Are we getting a new trinity now? Kirk, Spock and Uhura? Isn’t it supposed to be Kirk, Spock and MCCOY, by any chance?

Are they reducing McCoy to background in new movie, pusing former background character to front instead?

136. thorsten - February 28, 2009

@135…

No.

137. AJ - February 28, 2009

135:

The new young Trek cast is composed of handsome people. New male “future fans” will be happy to know that one of them is a strikingly beautiful woman.

138. Paulaner - February 28, 2009

#137

Exactly. This is marketing, guys: two handsome men and a beautiful woman to appeal the audience. We know how things work in the movie industry ;)

139. Captain Christopher - February 28, 2009

I don’t know if anyon’e said this yet, but Nero on the viewscreen looks too much like Hollie from Red Dwarf.

“Bing Bong, Bing Bong. There’s an emeregency going on. It’s still going on…..”

140. badboy1230 - February 28, 2009

…or it could be Queeg:

“The Enterprise is now run by Queeg 500!”

141. Mr. Scott Complains Too Much - February 28, 2009

Just a few questions:

1. Who is Nero?
2. Who is Hollie?
3. Who is Queeg?

Thanks!

142. Closettrekker - February 28, 2009

#129—“This is where I disagree, by using a timemachine going BACK (which is not possible in your OWN timeline as far as I know), he allready creates a different timeline, and the events leading up for his actions (TOS, movies, TNG) no longer HAPPEN THE WAY as they did in HIS timeline.”

If you mean to say that the events depicted in the TOS movies, TNG, etc. will no longer happen the way they did—then yes, that’s quite possible, depending upon how significant the differences between the two timelines end up being.

What I said was, “one event still leads to another”.

Since the story in STXI (and thus the creation of the alternate timeline) depends upon the timeline that we know (ENT-NEM) advancing to the point where the decision is made to travel back in time, that act of time travel is dependant upon each and every event that formed the original timeline.

Therefore, each depicted event is part of a chain of events that leads to that point. That is what makes it relevant still.

It is still very much a sequel. Fans need only get over the notion that “Canon” is confined to the strictly linear passage of time.

What you are saying, if I am understanding you correctly, is that those events are unfamiliar to those in the altered timeline. Am I right? If so, I won’t dispute that. That seems a logical conclusion. But that doesn’t mean they did not happen. They simply happened in another timeline. And regardless of the fact that the people living in the “altered timeline” are not (for the most part) aware of the effect the “other timeline” has had upon them—their lives would not be what they are without everything that happened in that “other timeline” culminating in the actions of both Nero and Nimoy’s Spock (both products of the “other timeline”), whatever those actions ultimately end up being.

143. thorsten - February 28, 2009

@142…

FARADAY: We really do not have time for me to try to explain. You have no idea how difficult that would be for me to try to explain this–this phenomenon to a quantum physicist. That would be difficult, so for me to try to explain whatever is happening–
[Sawyer slaps Faraday.]
CHARLOTTE: Oi! What in bloody hell do you think you’re doing?
[She moves forward to defend Faraday.]
SAWYER: Shut it, Ginger, or you’re gettin’ one, too.

144. Closettrekker - February 28, 2009

#143—Lol.

McCoy:”You’re proposing that we go backwards in time, find humpback whales, then bring them forward in time, drop them off, and hope to hell they tell this probe what to go do with itself.”

Kirk:”That’s the general idea.”

McCoy:”Well that’s crazy!”

Kirk:”You got a better idea, now’s the time.”

(snip)

Spock:”Excuse me, weren’t those a present from Dr. McCoy?”

Kirk:”And they will be again, that’s the beauty of it.”

145. wilj - February 28, 2009

#142– What you are saying, if I am understanding you correctly, is that those events are unfamiliar to those in the altered timeline. Am I right? If so, I won’t dispute that. That seems a logical conclusion. But that doesn’t mean they did not happen. They simply happened in another timeline. And regardless of the fact that the people living in the “altered timeline” are not (for the most part) aware of the effect the “other timeline” has had upon them—their lives would not be what they are without everything that happened in that “other timeline” culminating in the actions of both Nero and Nimoy’s Spock (both products of the “other timeline”), whatever those actions ultimately end up being.

That’s what I meant, the things we saw the last 40 years HAVE to happen in order for this new story (so no harm done to the ones who love the old Trek), but it could very well be that THIS NEW Kirk will loose from Khan for example (should he meet him in this new timeline) OR, with this new transporter technologie not need to be so close to the Nexus, and Kirk survives on the Ent-B, which they could jump to in this movie and give Shatner a cameo, LOL

Anyway, I see we both see it the same way :)

146. Oktoberfest - February 28, 2009

1. Please do NOT destroy Vulcan!

They are like the elves in LOTR, my favorite characters (stoic, old, and wise).

2. Supernovae cannot “destroy the universe”.

You can’t fire a Smith and Wesson in Florida and blow up Neptune.

No amount of sci-fi weirdness (or scientific ignorance) can make a grain of sand affect a billion galaxies….

:-P

147. Closettrekker - February 28, 2009

#145—“…but it could very well be that THIS NEW Kirk will loose from Khan for example (should he meet him in this new timeline) OR, with this new transporter technologie not need to be so close to the Nexus, and Kirk survives on the Ent-B, which they could jump to in this movie and give Shatner a cameo, LOL

Anyway, I see we both see it the same way :)”

Definitely. But here is yet another possibility.

It could be that more than one road can lead to the same place. It could be that some events depicted as unfolding in the original timeline in a certain way could end up the same in both timelines.

To use your own example, the Enterprise (under Kirk’s command) might still find the Botany Bay adrift in space, and Khan may still be thwarted in his attempt to hijack Kirk’s ship. He may still be exiled to Ceti Alpha V, and well…you know the rest.

It may also be that only some of the details of what happens prior to the five year mission are different. This may affect some of the way events depicted in episodes like “Court-Martial”, “Obsession”, “A Private Little War”, and “The Conscience Of The King” unfold—but not others.

It could be that the Enterprise never visits Talos IV under Pike’s command (“The Menagerie”). Vina would still be there–her ship having crashed prior to the timeline incursion of 2233, but Pike may never find her there. The story in STXI may also result in Pike never being relegated to the “one beep, two beeps” chair after being exposed to delta rays.

It could also mean that Lt. Kirk never serves as an instructor at Star Fleet Academy, and therefore never meets a young man named Gary Mitchell, whom he might befriend and later command aboard the Enterprise (“Where No Man Has Gone Before”).

148. Alex Rosenzweig - February 28, 2009

#142 – “Fans need only get over the notion that “Canon” is confined to the strictly linear passage of time.”

It might also help to get over the notion that canon and continuity are the same thing. ;)

A multiverse has been canon in Trek for a long time. The idea of jettisoning general continuity may be canonical, but that doesn’t make it remotely smart.

149. Jamie - March 1, 2009

Don’t you just hate it when people have their widescreen TVs set to stretch the image?

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