It might also help to get over the notion that canon and continuity are the same thing. ;)

A multiverse has been canon in Trek for a long time. The idea of jettisoning general continuity may be canonical, but that doesn’t make it remotely smart.

Anyway, I see we both see it the same way :)”

Definitely. But here is yet another possibility.

It could be that more than one road can lead to the same place. It could be that some events depicted as unfolding in the original timeline in a certain way could end up the same in both timelines.

To use your own example, the Enterprise (under Kirk’s command) might still find the Botany Bay adrift in space, and Khan may still be thwarted in his attempt to hijack Kirk’s ship. He may still be exiled to Ceti Alpha V, and well…you know the rest.

It may also be that only some of the details of what happens prior to the five year mission are different. This may affect some of the way events depicted in episodes like “Court-Martial”, “Obsession”, “A Private Little War”, and “The Conscience Of The King” unfold—but not others.

It could be that the Enterprise never visits Talos IV under Pike’s command (”The Menagerie”). Vina would still be there–her ship having crashed prior to the timeline incursion of 2233, but Pike may never find her there. The story in STXI may also result in Pike never being relegated to the “one beep, two beeps” chair after being exposed to delta rays.

It could also mean that Lt. Kirk never serves as an instructor at Star Fleet Academy, and therefore never meets a young man named Gary Mitchell, whom he might befriend and later command aboard the Enterprise (”Where No Man Has Gone Before”).

They are like the elves in LOTR, my favorite characters (stoic, old, and wise).

2. Supernovae cannot “destroy the universe”.

You can’t fire a Smith and Wesson in Florida and blow up Neptune.

No amount of sci-fi weirdness (or scientific ignorance) can make a grain of sand affect a billion galaxies….

:-P

That’s what I meant, the things we saw the last 40 years HAVE to happen in order for this new story (so no harm done to the ones who love the old Trek), but it could very well be that THIS NEW Kirk will loose from Khan for example (should he meet him in this new timeline) OR, with this new transporter technologie not need to be so close to the Nexus, and Kirk survives on the Ent-B, which they could jump to in this movie and give Shatner a cameo, LOL

Anyway, I see we both see it the same way :)

McCoy:”You’re proposing that we go backwards in time, find humpback whales, then bring them forward in time, drop them off, and hope to hell they tell this probe what to go do with itself.”

Kirk:”That’s the general idea.”

McCoy:”Well that’s crazy!”

Kirk:”You got a better idea, now’s the time.”

(snip)

Spock:”Excuse me, weren’t those a present from Dr. McCoy?”

Kirk:”And they will be again, that’s the beauty of it.”

FARADAY: We really do not have time for me to try to explain. You have no idea how difficult that would be for me to try to explain this–this phenomenon to a quantum physicist. That would be difficult, so for me to try to explain whatever is happening–
[Sawyer slaps Faraday.]
CHARLOTTE: Oi! What in bloody hell do you think you’re doing?
[She moves forward to defend Faraday.]
SAWYER: Shut it, Ginger, or you’re gettin’ one, too.

If you mean to say that the events depicted in the TOS movies, TNG, etc. will no longer happen the way they did—then yes, that’s quite possible, depending upon how significant the differences between the two timelines end up being.

What I said was, “one event still leads to another”.

Since the story in STXI (and thus the creation of the alternate timeline) depends upon the timeline that we know (ENT-NEM) advancing to the point where the decision is made to travel back in time, that act of time travel is dependant upon each and every event that formed the original timeline.

Therefore, each depicted event is part of a chain of events that leads to that point. That is what makes it relevant still.

It is still very much a sequel. Fans need only get over the notion that “Canon” is confined to the strictly linear passage of time.

What you are saying, if I am understanding you correctly, is that those events are unfamiliar to those in the altered timeline. Am I right? If so, I won’t dispute that. That seems a logical conclusion. But that doesn’t mean they did not happen. They simply happened in another timeline. And regardless of the fact that the people living in the “altered timeline” are not (for the most part) aware of the effect the “other timeline” has had upon them—their lives would not be what they are without everything that happened in that “other timeline” culminating in the actions of both Nero and Nimoy’s Spock (both products of the “other timeline”), whatever those actions ultimately end up being.

1. Who is Nero?
2. Who is Hollie?
3. Who is Queeg?

Thanks!