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Rumor Control: No TNG Cameos In New Star Trek Movie March 1, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Comics,Star Trek (2009 film),TNG , trackback

It is amazing that this late in the game casting rumors for the new Star Trek movie can still arise, but they can. Today the rumor comes out of Wondercon, where Latino Review has ‘breaking news’ asking the question ‘Is The Next Generation In the New Star Trek Movie?’ The answer is no (with a little yes), but it certainly isn’t breaking news. Details and spoilers below.

 

TNG in ST09? Era yes, cast no
Latino Review’s attended an IDW Comics panel on movie comic books, which included "Star Trek Countdown" Star Trek movie prequel writers Tim Jones and Mike Johnson. Here is the Latino Review analysis:

…another writer (or artist) said that part of the movie will take place with the Next Generation cast and to look out for that. Another guy on the panel gave him a quick "uh oh" look.

After that, someone from the audience asked "So are members of the Next Generation cast in the new Trek movie?" to which the same guy replied, "I really cannot say anything about that."

Oops! I think you already did!

Actually no he didn’t. TrekMovie long ago reported that the new Star Trek movie has ties back to the post Star Trek Nemesis TNG era. This has been most evidenced by the new "Star Trek Countdown" comic series featuring AmbassadorPicard, a resurrected Captain Data and Spock (picking up on his Romulus storyline from the two-part TNG episode "Unification"). TrekMovie has also reported previously that in the new Star Trek movie, Eric Bana’s Nero (and his ship and crew) along with the elder (Nimoy) Spock (and his ship) start off in this post-Nemsis era, before they travel back in time to interact with the TOS era (Chris Pine’s Kirk, Zachary Quinto’s Spock, etc.).

However that is the extent of the connection to TNG. TrekMovie attended the same panel at Wondercon and certainly did not take away that Latino Review analysis. We have previously received no indication that there are any cameos of any Next Generation era actors or characters. Just to be sure, we double checked with reliable sources and can confirm that there are definitely no TNG cameos in the new Star Trek.

So yes there is a bit of Next Gen in the form of the back-story and the kick off point for the time traveling Nero and Spock, but that is it. 

More on Countdown from Wondercon coming up
After the IDW panel, Jones and Johnson, TrekMovie sat down with the writers to talk about the series so far and where it is going next. Look for that and more from the IDW panel early in the week.

 

Nitpicker’s Update: Majel doesn’t count (neither does Nimoy)
It has been noted in the comments that Majel Roddenberry is doing the computer voice in the movie and since she also did the computer voice in the Next Generation era, she is a ‘Next Gen Cameo.’ Well if one wants to nitpcik, then Majel is voicing the computer of the NCC-1701, and she is doing it in the Kirk era portion of the film. She is not voicing the computer of any Next Generation era ships and therefore her voice part is actually more of a ‘TOS cameo’. As for Nimoy, yes he did (as noted above) appear in a TNG episdoe, but Spock is is not a TNG character. The clear implication of ‘breaking news’ is that a true TNG actor (Spiner, Frakes, Stewart, etc) is going to show up in this movie…and that is just not going to happen. But there are always sequels!

 

For some real TNG cameos, read Star Trek Countdown
The four-issue Star Trek Countdown comic series is set entirely in the post-Nemesis TNG era, and definately has TNG cameos. So far in Issues 1 and 2 we have seen both Data and Picard play key roles in the back story of Nero and Spock before the events of the new Star Trek movie. Fore more see the TrekMovie.com reviews of Countdown #1 and Countdown #2.

Issues 1 and 2 are pretty hard to find, but you can still pre-order Issues 3 and 4. Or you can wait until April and pick up the trade paperback, which includes all four issues.

Countdown #1

Countdown #2

Countdown #3

Countdown #4


(sold out)
 

(sold out)

$3.19
(March)

$3.59
(April)

 

Star Trek Countdown
(Trade Paperback – compiling all 4 issues)

$12.23
(Pre-order – April. 29)

 

Comments

1. DGill - March 1, 2009

Hahah, I just read that story and was like, “Whaaat?”

2. Bren - March 1, 2009

I love TNG. A familiar face would have been nice. But then they’d overshadow the new cast. Let them shine, then we’ll see what we can do in future movies/series.

3. Anthony Pascale - March 1, 2009

Hi gang…I am filing this report from SFO. I got sent a few emails after some other websites picked up the story and so I thought we should nip this one in the bud before it grows like that old Tom Cruise rumor that kept coming back

4. KevinA Melbourne Australia - March 1, 2009

Maybe we’ll just see a Starship or two from NG?

5. Montreal Paul - March 1, 2009

What?! Tom Cruise ISN’T in the movie?? ;)

6. richpit - March 1, 2009

I’m glad there will be no cameos from the Next Gen cast. Nothing against them or TNG, but this movie needs to stand on its own.

I’ve already stated my opinion that I wish it was purely a TOS movie with the new cast, without even Spock “Prime” there to use as a crutch.

That said, I love Nimoy and I’m sure it’ll be awesome.

7. AJ - March 1, 2009

A tiny buzzkill, for sure…

Good flight, Anthony, and thanks for the airtight coverage!

8. Montreal Paul - March 1, 2009

I think the cameos of Picard & Data in the comic countdown are good enough. This movie definitely has to stand on it’s own and to let THIS crew shine.

9. I'm dead Jim - March 1, 2009

That’s Ambassador Picard in the comic. He’s the Federation ambassador to Vulcan.

10. NaradaAlpha - March 1, 2009

*coughcough–ACTUALLY, anthony, saying there is no cameo by any Next Generation-era actor is INCORRECT—lest we not forget the late Majel Barrett-Roddenberry’s cameo in the film as the computer voice? Get ur facts straight please LOL

p.s.–Majel’s cameo could be what The Latino Review was referring to

11. Montreal Paul - March 1, 2009

10. NaradaAlpha

wouldn’t really call Majel a Next Gen actor reprising her role.. she is only reprising her computer voice from ALL the Trek series/movies in the new movie.

12. AJ - March 1, 2009

Nimoy is also a TNG cameo ;-)

13. Captain Quail Hunter - March 1, 2009

Just think if they had never killed off Kirk in Generations he could have become President of the Federation and why has there never been a ship named after him?

14. AJ - March 1, 2009

I heard Stan Lee plays the barber on the Enterprise…

15. fred - March 1, 2009

I think that Majel’s contribution doesn’t really mean a TNG cameo since she was an original TOS cast member.

16. The Jui$tain - March 1, 2009

@ 9– Actually her voice was only on TNG, DS9, and VOY. Oh yeah almost forgot, the TNG movies too.

But I agree this movie has to stand on its own and let this crew shine.

Rest in peace computer….. I mean Mrs. Barrett-Roddenberry…. :)

*J

17. opcode - March 1, 2009

#10: Majel did the computer voice for ST III:TSFS, years before TNG…

18. DGill - March 1, 2009

Personally, I think it would be cool to have a sequence right before the introduction of the Kelvin in which Ambassador Picard (played by Patrick Stewart of course) is notified of Nero’s escape and then yells, “D’oh!”

End of scene. :)

19. blah - March 1, 2009

I would say Majel is a TOS cameo first and foremost (why do people always forget she did the computer voice back then two, just because she was pinching her nose).

20. Anthony Pascale - March 1, 2009

I knew someone would bring up Majel, so I added that to the article, she is not reprising her tng role, but her tos role…..so BZZZZZZZZZZZZ….sorry that nitpick is incorrect.

By the way I am wating for someone to mention that there is an actor in the film who also appeared in the TNG era….when someone figures who that is I will again also say that he is also not a tng cameo

21. The Jui$tain - March 1, 2009

#17–Forgot to add TOS…..meant to say all but ENT……

#18– LMAO

*J

22. Anthony Pascale - March 1, 2009

ok flight boarding….will address any other rumors or nitpicks when back at TrekMovie HQ later tonight

23. The Jui$tain - March 1, 2009

Darn it she was in ENT……..

I take back what I said….

*J

24. Izbot - March 1, 2009

3. Anthony Pascale –

Tom Criuse is in the new movie?!?!!!

…just kiddin’…

25. opcode - March 1, 2009

My mistake, the computer voice in The Search for Spock was provided by Teresa E. Victor.

26. VOODOO - March 1, 2009

It would have been nice if they could have somehow worked Patrick Stewart into the film as Picard.

27. The Jui$tain - March 1, 2009

@ Anthony–
I say Leonard Nimoy, I know it’s the obvious choice but what the heck…

*J

28. The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - March 1, 2009

Well, maybe the STARRING cast members from the TNG era won’t have any cameos, but what about one of the regular guest characters?

Just a hopeless thought, but all of sudden I have this fantasy of J.G. Hertzler with a cameo as Chancellor Martok near the beginning. After all, we DO see Nero escaping from Rura Penthe in the begging of the movie, and I can just see the movie cutting immediately to a shot of 2 Klingon soldiers rushing to inform Martok that Nero has escaped, with Martok cursing some unintelligible Klingon word and killing the messengers. End cameo ;)

29. Picards_Protege1 - March 1, 2009

To # 16 & 17:

As “Montreal Paul” already indicated in # 11, Majel also performed the Enterprise computer voice on TOS. This can be verified at IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/filmoseries#tt0060028

Anthony,

Thank you for ongoing excellent coverage and verification of your information. You do a wonderful job of sticking to the facts and it is appreciated! That’s good journalism…bravo!

30. Jefferies Tuber - March 1, 2009

I thought Wesley and the Traveller were in attendance at Kirk’s graduation

… and clearly Archer does not drop dead upon the 1701′s launch anymore.

31. AJ - March 1, 2009

20:

Anthony:

W. Morgan Sheppard. “Ira Graves” in TNG, and the over-zealous Rura Pente guard in TUC.

No?

32. The Governator - March 1, 2009

Yeah, not surprised. I read that Latino Review article and the first I thought was: yeah…..um…..no. There is no way they could have made it in the movie without anyone finding out this close to release. And although it sparked some excitement within me, the more I thought about it, the more I figured it would be best for them not to be in the movie. It’s a new movie with a new cast. It’s best for it to just try and be that and not something that it isn’t. TNG is over.

33. Yojimbo - March 1, 2009

The TNG crew got enough of a cameo in the final ENT episode, but I’ll admit that I would have loved to have seen Picard and Data in uniform again. All the same, even if the movie *starts* in the Post-Nemesis universe, doesn’t the movie carry the potentiality to radically change it in the end? If this whole project is intended to reboot the series, we might not even have a Picard anymore!

34. The Jui$tain - March 1, 2009

I would say Chris Doohan, but he was in TMP…..

@31–Wow, that’s some good observation on yoiur part.

35. OM - March 1, 2009

…Kids, let’s keep in mind that Latino Review has about as much credibility as one can expect from a website that claimed Jango Fett was a racist stereotype offensive to Hispanics. Ever since then, when someone says that LR reported something, I ask for a different source.

36. Jordan - March 1, 2009

Kind of expected, but it would have been awesome if there was a cameo. It would have been the largest trek-gasm ever.

37. Daoud - March 1, 2009

It’s Ensign Ricky. That guy’s everywhere. ;)

Re: Majel. If only there were a throwaway line inserted by JJ delivered by Pike about the computer voice having been based on that of his original first officer!

#31 W. Morgan Sheppard, yep.

#33 Maybe we have the Picard of Yesterday’s Enterprise instead. That wouldn’t be so bad….

38. Jordan - March 1, 2009

Also, Majel did do a computer voice in ENT. Sureee… it was in the mirror universe, and in the TOS era for the Defiant, but it was still ENT. :D

39. Adam Cohen - March 1, 2009

Anthony, thank you again for being the one, lone voice of truth and logic in these heady internet times. Wasn’t Latino Review the same site that said J.J. Abrams was definitely NOT directing this movie? I wonder if they’re still holding to their sources on that little journalistic gem…

40. Jason - March 1, 2009

the countdown mini series is red hot

get to your comic shops!

41. Dan - March 1, 2009

Man if this news is true, I’m going to see this film a hundred times in theaters. I want a TNG movie so bad!!! Can you imagine Data and Picards return… SWEET!!!!!!!!! I welcome JJ to direct the next TNG movie!!!!! NOW!!!!!!

42. MORN SPEAKS - March 1, 2009

Did you have to put a void line through the TNG cast? This makes me sad : (

43. AJ - March 1, 2009

Anthony:

Robot Chicken just did a first-run ep with Star Trek: The Experience. Their “tourist” Enterprise ended up encountering the Borg as an “alternative universe Enterprise” and helping Picard vs. the Borg Queen. Or something like that.

Serves you right for being on a plane!

44. Pete359 - March 1, 2009

#37 That’s an interesting idea about Pike saying the Computer voice was modeled after Number One. Think of it, they could have turned it into a tribute to Majel. Have him say something about Number One which reflects on Majel, the same way they wrote that line for the Doctor in VOY “Living Witness” when commented on his fondness for B’Lanna mirroring the fact that Roxanne Dawson wasn’t in that episode because she was giving birth.

Having Pike saying something like “She truly was a unique soul, my First Office but also a First Lady to all the galaxy”.

Or something less sappy, Bob Ocri, you comment here a fair bit, maybe you could write a brief line of what he could’ve said and give us all nerdgasms. ;)

45. Pete359 - March 1, 2009

*Orci

46. AJ - March 1, 2009

The Jui$tain

Shaeppard was announced on this site months ago!

47. Fansince9 - March 1, 2009

TNG cast in addition to all of the other big named actors in the movie? It’d be nice, and it’d probably make the movie’s story plot even jucier, but can you imagine the kind of money Paramount would have to pay all of these actors? I mean the budget was big, but it just seems that kind of budget would have to be beyond the realm of possiblity. Like I said, it’d be nice, but I can’t see it. This rumor seems to be absent of common practicality.

48. AJ - March 1, 2009

Sheppard

49. Jared Butcher - March 1, 2009

TREKMOVIE IS JUST AN APPENDAGE OF THE CORPORATE FACISTS AT PARAMOUNTS!!! TNG CHARACTERS ARE IN THE FILM THEY JUST AREN”T WANT TO TELL US AAALLSS!!! RIKER AND TROI PLUS TUVOK ARE SENT ON THE TITAN TO STOP SPOCK FROM HAVING A BABY WITH HAN SOLO AND AN EWOK! I LIKE PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWHICHES AND COUNT CHOCOLATE PANCAKES THAT MY MOM BUYS FROM MR> SULU!!

Sorry I just wanted to be “that guy” that always haunts message boards. lol
PS Spelling mistakes were purposeful. How sad is that I write a little crazy satirical note and still feel I have to explain my spelling errors? lol

50. Fansince9 - March 1, 2009

49: I needed a smile, and that did it. Thanks!

51. Y EN A MARRE! - March 1, 2009

Will the post-Nemesis stuff look like the TNG universe we know? The uniforms, decals, doors, phasers, etc?

Or will JJ not even pay attention to the continuity there. :o(

52. Spock - March 1, 2009

So what the hell are they going to do with the voice of the computer in future films and/or series?

I think Majel should’ve had the foresight to hook up with Cepstral voices or the people who did that Tom Baker voice, so that whenever new dialogue was needed they could just type it in and BAM. The computer doth spoke.

I wonder if they can still do that with existing dialogue of hers? I don’t want to hear some other shmuck doing the computer’s voice.

53. Jared Butcher - March 1, 2009

#51 said: “I think Majel should’ve had the foresight to hook up with Cepstral voices or the people who did that Tom Baker voice”

Yeah, where were her priorities? She should known she was going to die and put the producers through the trouble of recasting the computer voice.

Christsakes man think, then speak!

54. Buzz Cagney - March 1, 2009

Good. Including TNG cast would have just cheapened the whole deal. They’ve had more than good bite at it now. Let them go.

55. nephron - March 1, 2009

#53:

Agreed. And keep all of them out of any sequels, if for no other reason than that the Time-Travel-motif has been done. A lot. Too much. Waaaay too much.

It’s “Star Trek”, not “Time Trek”.

One of the flaws that plagued Trek for too long is that it became far too self-referential, or to use the literary jargon, “up-its-own-a$$”. After a while Star Trek was no longer a show about astronauts exploring the unknown depths of outer space, but a masturbatory expose’ of it’s own “continuity” – like a snake eating its own tail. Doing yet another time-travel gimmick so as to put Next Gen. characters into any future sequels would be yet another example of Stale Trek at its lamest and exhibit a total lack of imagination.

56. nephron - March 1, 2009

edit: it was 54 for whom I threw up the “Agreed”

57. Katie G. - March 1, 2009

#20. Anthony Pascale

“…By the way I am wating for someone to mention that there is an actor in the film who also appeared in the TNG era….when someone figures who that is I will again also say that he is also not a tng cameo.”

Okay, I’ll bite. How about one of the professors at the academy teaching young Kirk (et al) is an ancestor of Dr. Noonien Soong, Data’s creator…

Do I win, huh? Do I?

:-)

And I haven’t had any chocolate (but had some sugar…)

kg

58. Dan - March 1, 2009

We need a new TNG movie NOWWWWWWW!!!!!

59. Enterprise - March 1, 2009

Thank Gods. TNG ran its course. They had a chance for the movies, but only one was really good.

60. Alf, in pog form - March 1, 2009

Yep, it is actually true that the TNG cast will appear in the coming movie, just not in our particular timeline.

61. Anthony Pascale - March 1, 2009

I am back at TMHQ

AJ…W. Morgan Sheppard is correct

Good call…and I actually thought of another 24th century Trek/ST09 crossover on the plane…this one from the 24th century, but not TNG

62. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - March 1, 2009

Ok. Dr. Soong could be in the Movie teaching at the Acedemy. We may even see the Enterprise E in the New Movie which would be kool. But any cameo of any tng would only be a voiceover at best. But thats just a thought.

63. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - March 1, 2009

Hey anthonty. Do you think we might see the Enterprise E for a brief cameo in the Movie.

64. Fubamushu - March 1, 2009

While I doubt any of the main characters from TNG are in the film, is it totally out of the realm of possibility? Is it really impossible for this to be kept a secret?

65. Daoud - March 1, 2009

24th century, but not TNG? Not sure how to read that one. SAREK certainly lives into the 24th century.

Unfortunately, the one I’d hope to see won’t work since he factored into one TNG episode. We don’t know how long-lived Boothby is. If he’s a Martian, perhaps a young Boothby’s planting flowers at the Academy during Jim Kirk’s tenure…

AP, you’re always thinking :)

66. TBW - March 1, 2009

Greg Ellis…Ekoor in DS9′s “What You Leave Behind” and Chief Engineer Olson…what do I win? HA!

67. Anthony Pascale - March 1, 2009

TBW is correct!

you win the knowledge that you are a superior trek triviologist

68. Will_H - March 2, 2009

I think its best to reserve judgment on weather or not a TNG cameo would have been good in the movie or not until we see it. After all Nimoy’s Spock is in it, and I did think it was cool seeing Janeway in Nemesis (I know Im probably in the minority there) but its not worth it if it detracts from the story. Though honestly Im still one of the few hopefuls that if this movie does well we’ll see a fitting end to TNG in another movie and having the general public seeing a member or two of the TNG cast in this movie might broaden that interested, but if there arent any, there arent, nothing can change that now.

69. Oregon Trek Geek - March 2, 2009

TNG people: please give us a sci-fi (or whatever network) mini-series or a straight to DVD movie!! Maybe a live-action mini-series of the Countdown comics. (Maybe Nimoy would reprise Spock again for that?)

C’mon, Paramount, this would totally make money…. um… wouldn’t it?

(I’ve got the Countdown Trade Paperback pre-ordered. So I’m going to read it REALLY FAST and then go see the movie :)

70. The Last Maquis - March 2, 2009

It’s Sarek For Crying out loud!!, But I didn’t Think He was A TNG Cameo….Uh Cause He’s Not.

71. ety3 - March 2, 2009

TNG characters in sequels? Please, no.

I hope after this film, Trek gives time travel a rest.

72. The Last Maquis - March 2, 2009

#70. The Last Maquis

In Character Anyway. not as Mark Leonard.

73. Mammalian Verisimilitude - March 2, 2009

Article> Actually no he didn’t. TrekMovie long ago reported that the new Star Trek movie has ties back to the post Star Trek Nemesis TNG era. This has been most evidenced by the new “Star Trek Countdown” comic series featuring Admiral Picard,

Uh, AMBASSADOR Picard, not “Admiral”

74. Harry - March 2, 2009

So, a related question: is there any traditional “handing-over” scene, as far as you know?

TNG started this with Admiral McCoy, DS9 had the Enterprise-D visiting, VOY visited DS9, ENT had Zefram Cochrane from First Contact. I suppose Nimoy counts as a TOS/TNG/Movie character, but tradition would allow for a mini-ENT cameo (a 133 year old Archer or, more realistically, a 170-ish T’Pol). Or is this just extremely unlikely?

75. Commander K - March 2, 2009

Just becasue Star Trek Countdown comics sell out i doubt a live action version of them would.

76. Jeyl - March 2, 2009

@75 Commander K

What about an audio drama?

77. I am Kurok! - March 2, 2009

74. I would think that Nimoy’s old Spock is enough for a generational hand-off: it links the two TOS worlds. I think adding TNG cameos would be a little too incestuous. I thought I read somewhere that there was a reference in the movie to Archer’s presence at the launching of 1701: according to canon (if it applies at this point) he died shortly thereafter.

The comic book prep for the movie is a fantastic idea: it creates an audience that would probably have not explored them otherwise. I am NOT a comic book fan, but would buy them just to get the story (I’m holding out for a hardcover compilation of the three of them, which I have no doubt they will eventually release.)

78. Andy Patterson - March 2, 2009

Just a rumor. Good.

79. Gary Gallegos - March 2, 2009

SHOW A TNG CHARACTER IN THE NEW FILM!

They need to show TNG starfleet officers wearing the uniforms we all know. This way we know TNG era actually took place.

I would prefer to see DATA or PICARD. After all, Star Trek 2 had Kahn to tie it directly to the original series! TNG had McCoy to tie it to the original crew! DS9 had the Enterprise and Picard to pass the torch! And so on, etc. They all had something to TIE IN TO THE PREVIOUS. A PASSING OF THE TORCH. So, TNG character would be great to pass the torch! It wouldn’t cheapen it.

MOST MAINSTREAM (NON TREKKIES) WANT TO SEE A Next Generation character in the film. It will make more sense for them to know that it’s a sequel to what came before.

80. Bradley1701 - March 2, 2009

#79 – Khan was a villain from TOS…he wasn’t a tie in between two completely different eras or tv shows.

I think beyond that, while it is fun to have cameos between the different shows, it also can be lame. People were happy that Kirk wasn’t going to be doing a cameo but they want to see Data? Have you seen Brent Spiner lately? He’s already said he isn’t doing any more Trek movies because he’s too old, has gained weight, etc. Sort of like the last episode of ENT where it was obvious that Troi needed to lay of the chocolate and Riker needed to go on a few more away missions to lose o few inches on the uniform waistline.

Trek fans have demanded an excellent movie and while I could see Picard making a brief appearance, I don’t want to sacrifice good story telling/script to try and fit in old characters. If it isn’t done right, it’s lame.

81. Seany-Wan - March 2, 2009

I guess it would have been cool to see the Enterprise-F go after Nero, but perhaps it is better that the story just jump right in a get on with the old crew. I can’t wait to hear the new music!

82. I am Kurok! - March 2, 2009

Bradley 1701: Remember that TNG turned 20 last year. Even the TOS folks were getting a little long in the tooth (& girth) in the movies in the 80′s. Riker did look like he was back to “fighting trim” for Nemesis (which I thought was the how & why to his losing the beard for a while.)

Troi-leave her alone: I thought she was starting to look “lush” as she got a little older. Of course, they are not that much older than I am, so your mileage may vary…

I did like how TNG tied into Enterprise’s last episode, in which we view NX-01′s swan-song and the founding of the federation as Riker’s romp through the holodeck. . .

83. I'm dead Jim - March 2, 2009

Anthony, my previous post may have been overlooked but I notice you still have Picard’s title from the Countdown comic as Admiral when it should be Ambassador. Picard is the Federation ambassador to Vulcan in the comic.

84. Dom - March 2, 2009

79. Gary Gallegos: ‘MOST MAINSTREAM (NON TREKKIES) WANT TO SEE A Next Generation character in the film. It will make more sense for them to know that it’s a sequel to what came before.’

Most mainstreamers, if they’re aware of TNG at all, know it as a show that finished sometime in the 90s or a show that they flick past when channel-hopping. It’s off most people’s radars. They know Star Trek (2009) is a film about Kirk as young man. They don’t need any further confusion!

17. opcode

Teresa E. Victor, Leonard Nimoy’s longtime PA, did the computer voice for STIII: TSFS. I liked her voice and it was perfect for those moments close to the ship’s demise. Sadly she’s no longer with us either!

85. Bradley1701 - March 2, 2009

#82- oh I know TNG’s age. I just mean that if we are going to recreate the Trek story with a whole new TOS crew, then why bring in the old TNG crew? I can understand having Nimoy play Spock, he is an integral part of the story and the most iconic Trek character. If this is going to be a TOS movie then it has to be a TOS movie…not one that will make the TNG fans happy because they get to see Data or Picard again. After all, this movie isn’t just for the fans.

The last episode of ENT to me wasn’t an ENT episode. It was a TNG episode that featured ENT stuff and that is why people liked it.

86. AJ - March 2, 2009

85:

The last ENT episode was considered by most fans to be a giant middle finger right up their nose after what was a wonderful season. Why should the founding of the Federation be shown as a leisure activity on Riker’s holodeck program? Why not just show it?

87. TBW - March 2, 2009

I’m as big a fan of the TNG era (moreso DS9) as the next guy, but I don’t really see the need to use some sort of transitional character. Isn’t that essentially what we’re getting with Nimoy’s Spock?

88. SirBroiler - March 2, 2009

It’s interesting that people think Hollywood can’t successfully (i.e. secretly) pull of a cameo anymore. Why is it so certain that if they were to include some TnG character in this movie, that EVERYONE would certainly know about it first?

I’m still holding out hope that we’ll see Picard, Data or Riker (even if just so briefly), helping Spock make his way back in time. I mean, could that old Vulcan geezer pull this off on his own? No way.

But TnG cameo or not – I can’t wait for this movie.

89. Jorg Sacul - March 2, 2009

#14… no, Stan Lee plays the guy who yells out…. (oh I can’t …this is so lame)

Excelsior!

(he used to sign off as such in the Marvel comix)

90. Seany-Wan - March 2, 2009

#88 Yuous wrote:

“I’m still holding out hope that we’ll see Picard, Data or Riker (even if just so briefly), helping Spock make his way back in time. I mean, could that old Vulcan geezer pull this off on his own? No way. ”

I strongly disagree. This is SPOCK we are talking about.

91. Bradley1701 - March 2, 2009

#86 – Very true.

#90 – I agree completely. Leonard Nimoy’s Spock is a pop culture icon that no other Trek character can hold a candle to.

92. MORN SPEAKS - March 2, 2009

No more void line!!! : )

93. Shunnabunich - March 2, 2009

#91: It’s not just his mindshare in pop culture. I think Seany-Wan was referring to the fact that a guy like Spock would still be kicking a$$ and taking names no matter how old he was, and I’m sure he could arrange himself a time-ship ride without needing help from the TNG characters.

The movie’s 24th-century backstory aside, I agree very much with the early comments saying that this movie needs to stand on its own. The involvement of TNG-era characters would muddy up the story considerably, especially for people who aren’t familiar with Trek. This is a story about the TOS-era characters, and it needs to be allowed to focus on them.

I grew up on TNG reruns, myself (wasn’t born until 1986), and that gang is very, very dear to my heart, almost like a second family, but this is not a TNG movie. Sure, they might not have had a proper sendoff so far, but that’s a matter that (IMO) should be resolved separately, without dragging ST:09 into it to use as a platform.

I don’t quite understand the worries about whether or not the 24th century will be recognizable after this movie, either. As I see it, there are now two separate, relatively parallel timelines, the second of which was “branched off” from the first by Nero and Spock’s doings; think of the normal universe and the Mirror Universe, but the defining difference, instead of everyone being evil, is that events have merely unfolded differently. The TNG universe we know and (some of us) love is still continuing on its merry way…in the original timeline.

94. screaming satellite - March 2, 2009

Kirk Prime handed over the torch from TOS to TNG in Generations…

Spock Prime hands it back from TNG to TOS in new film

all is well…

95. SKARF - March 2, 2009

You heard it here first Captain Data is in the film!

96. Ben IV - March 2, 2009

“But there are always sequels!”

After Nemesis? Good luck.

97. NCC-73515 - March 2, 2009

Have Riker with the Titan bring Spock back to the future!

98. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

I just watched Nemesis last night after not seeing it for a couple of years. There were major problems with it but I did enjoy seeing the TNG crew together… it really was their swan song with Riker and Troi leaving for the Titan and with Data dying. It does set it up nicely with B4 starting to access Data’s memories at the end. I then read the first two count down comics after watching Nemesis… it picks up nicely. I think that the comics were a great idea.. a great bridge from TNG to this movie… It’s a nod to all the fans with this transition. I can’t wait for the next two comics and then the movie! The momentum is building!

99. Bradley1701 - March 2, 2009

It was said best earlier with #93 that Spock is an amazing character and is quite capable of carrying a story and getting into the past on his own without the help of the TNG folks.

I’m all for zero TNG people in this movie!

Long live TOS!!!

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101. Jefferies Tuber - March 2, 2009

Data always looked lame on the big screen.

102. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - March 2, 2009

HA HA HA HA HA

103. Shatner_Fan_Prime - March 2, 2009

#91 … “Leonard Nimoy’s Spock is a pop culture icon that no other Trek character can hold a candle to.”

I can think of one. :-)

104. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

103. Shatner_Fan_Prime

Sulu or Chekov? ;)

105. screaming satellite - March 2, 2009

old spock follows nero back to TOS era…opens a compartment to get some powdered Plomeek soup after the stressful journey only to find Wesley Crusher has hitched a ride…..

106. Shatner_Fan_Prime - March 2, 2009

#104 … Lt. Riley, of course!! :-)

107. Rumor Killer: Does Star Trek Feature Next Generation Cameos? | /Film - March 2, 2009

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108. Alex - March 2, 2009

Actually, I wouldn’t mind seeing Picard or Data or Riker and his ship somewhere in the movie. Not to the extent Generations crossed over the shows, more along the lines of the pilots of later Trek shows (Cochrane on Enterprise, Picard on DS9, Quark on Voyager).

109. I am Kurok! - March 2, 2009

85: If memory serves me, the last episode of ENT featured shots of all Enterprises at the end, just before the credits rolled: a little shmaltzy perhaps, but I quote “. . . . . . brought a tear to ‘me eye.”

110. N - March 2, 2009

Do we really need TNG cast in the new movie? Whose dumb idea was that? I guess thery are grabbing at straws now that they didn’t get Shatner.

111. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

110. N

Read the article… the TNG cast are NOT in the movie.

112. Irish Trekki - March 2, 2009

TNG have had their fun. I ve always been interested in any series that fills the gap between TOS and TNG. Any suggestions?

113. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - March 2, 2009

I’d rather have a cameo by Mr. T

114. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

110. N
“I guess thery are grabbing at straws now that they didn’t get Shatner.”

Oh another thing.. it’s not that they couldn’t get Shatner.. they didn’t want Shatner.

115. Shatner_Fan_Prime - March 2, 2009

#113 … “…it’s not that they couldn’t get Shatner.. they didn’t want Shatner.”

Not if you buy their rhetoric. Supposedly they “tried desperately” to work him into the story. What-evah.

(rolls eyes)

116. Notbob - March 2, 2009

I wouldn’t be bothered by a cameo from anyone at this point. I saw Tropic Thunder and even Cruise wouldn’t bother me in a cameo. And Phillip Seymore Hoffman should play Harry Mudd.

117. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

115. Shatner_Fan_Prime

They didn’t even ask him to be in it.. I don’t think they were “desperately” trying to work him into the story. I believe they wrote a cameo but it just didn’t work. They never offered him a part… this is coming from Shatner as well. So, um… no… they didn’t really WANT him in it. They wanted Nimoy right from the start though.

118. Apollo Drakuvich - March 2, 2009

It would be awesome to have a cameo with Data and Picard in it…

Majel’s computer voice is not a cameo…

119. Shatner_Fan_Prime - March 2, 2009

#117 … “they didn’t really WANT him in it.”

That’s why I said “supposedly.” My point is that you’d never get them to admit that. JJ & co. said several times early on that they were “desperately” trying to get him in (this was around the time of the Nimoy announcement, Comic-Con 2007). Some fans don’t believe them. And many fans, like me, think they *should have* wanted him.

120. SciFi Weekend: Locke Returns From The Dead; Echo Conspires; STTNG Cast Reunites; And Girmore Girl Becomes a Doctor - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought - March 2, 2009

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121. David P - March 2, 2009

i wonder if there will be any Shat cameo rumors?

122. redshirt - March 2, 2009

this little incident reinforces a suspicion ive long held –

that despite the site’s disclaimer to the contrary, trekmovie.com is essentially being run under the umbrella of the abrams star trek movie machine.

or at least, consults with members of that team regularly, as part of a very carefully planned and mutually advantageous marketing enterprise. . chats between fedora-wearing men in dark parking garages. shadowy-type stuff.

there will be a tng cameo. one or two characters, no more. recognizable — so either data or picard or both. it makes sense from so many different perspectives.

123. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

122. redshirt

where the heck do you get that?!?

124. jas_montreal - March 2, 2009

Can we please have a ds9 direct to dvd movie ?

125. redshirt - March 2, 2009

123 montreal paul

esti, j’ai aucune idee

126. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

c’est fou, mon homme, c’est fou.

127. Montreal Paul - March 2, 2009

124. jas_montreal

I’m with you on that. it was one of the better series. And I think direct to DVD, they could get away with lots of stuff they couldn’t on TV.

128. jas_montreal - March 2, 2009

127. Montreal Paul

yup. It would be great to have a return after couple of years of the cast. Maybe Captain sisco returns and the crew gets together one last time for one glorious mission into the beta quadrant vs the dominion. A send-off movie for them. I felt ‘What you leave behind’ was good, but not a completely good fitting farewell to the crew compared to the TNG finale. Maybe we can have some of the voyager crew in the movie too and some TNG cameos too. It would be a nice direct to dvd movie farewell to all the trek tv series’s , except Enterprise (which is in a completely different time frame).

129. Oktoberfest - March 2, 2009

Today, Latino Review reported that Mr. T is indeed in the film, as the Planet Vulcan.

A challenging role indeed, but I think he can pull it off.

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133. DEMODE - March 3, 2009

For the love of God… give us some more TNG!!!!

3 made for TV movies (HBO), and I would be TNG satisfied for the rest of my life.

134. Captain Balki - March 3, 2009

how can the enterprise of the past defeat a 24th century romulan vessel? Old spock must give them new weapons designs

135. trekboi - March 3, 2009

they should have done one TNG scene with cast members- perhaps the titan.

136. Star Trackie - March 3, 2009

The fact that none of the TNG cast will appear in JJ’s film pleases me to no end. This film can’t distance itself enough from TNG as far as I’m concerned.

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138. Ponnfarr6996 - March 3, 2009

Majel Barrett is not just a computer voice from TNG.She is also nurse Chapel TOS and Lexanna Troi. (TNG)…And the First Lady of Trekdom….show some respect.

139. rob - March 3, 2009

this has nothing to do with this talkback…but can anyone tell me if bea arthur is in ‘tos ‘gamesters of triskelian’…?

if she is i think she was checkov’s game thrall , or whatever they were called. and she may have gone by her real name Jane Ross

140. Captain Balki - March 4, 2009

yea we get picard and data at the beginning of movie and spock and surprise shats kirk at the end. plus the new crew in the middle is a great movie!

141. T'Cal - March 4, 2009

When I learned that Nimoy would play Spock in this film, I figured it might be a flashback story of how Spock and Kirk first met. I liked the idea that some time after the events in Nemesis, Picard and Spock meet at the “Welcome to the Federation” party for the Romulans. There, the two would see each other for the first time in years and they would go off to an anteroom to catch up. Picard would describe the events of Kirk’s sacrificial death (GEN) to the Vulcan and say how he wished he had gotten to know the legend better. Spock, having great respect for Picard, offers up a mind meld, which begins the recount of the beginiing of his and Kirk’s longstanding relationship. As the story ends, the meld is broken and we see the two 24th century legends nod knowingly, share the Vulcan salute, and part company as the music swells and the credits roll.

142. Eli1477 - March 4, 2009

Archer….Archer…Archer…

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