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New Star Trek Trailer A Big Hit With The Media March 7, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Marketing/Promotion,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

In November we reported that the first theatrical trailer got the notice of the mainstream media. This week the second trailer not only got noticed, it is a hit. The trailer is not only playing well on the Trek sites, and geek sites, but general entertainment sites and with the mainstream press. And of course it has already inspired some ‘classic’ mashup as well. Check it all out below.

 

Resistance was futile
From look at the polls and comments here and other Trek sites, it is clear that this trailer is playing well to the core fanbase and it seems even some of the skeptics are coming around. It is also playing well in the geekosphere with the king of the geek sites AintItCool summing it up well up as a "Gooey Geekasm."

However this trailer is also playing well outside the usual nerd herd. Here are some of the comments from the general entertainment and mainstream press.

I will admit, I am not a fan of the Star Trek series. I don’t dislike it per se, I just never really got into it. But this new flick releasing on [May 8th] includes so many of my favorite actors including Zachary Quinto, Simon Pegg, John Cho and Zoe Saldana that I am rethinking this whole Star Trek thing.

- The Insider

I’ve been on board for J.J. Abrams “Star Trek” reboot from the word “engage,” but after seeing this new, heart-stopping trailer, I might take to street corners and start preaching the gospel. Set phasers on testify!

- New York Post

[headline] New ‘Star Trek’ trailer: Beam me the frak up, right bloody now

There are some who raise a great hew and cry over J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek reboot, and the more they see, the louder their protestations will get. They’re too young, the Enterprise looks like a flourescent hospital, why is Jim Kirk astro-base-jumping? For them, Star Trek will always be William Shatner, strutting around in those little booties, performing yellow-belt karate chops on aliens dressed like Romans. But for the rest of us — people who can handle a new Battlestar Galactica, a new James Bond every 10 years, and new underpants…

Holy s#!+.

- Entertainment Weekly

If I were Paramount, I’d start screening this sucker within the next week, especially after the word of mouth on Watchmen sets in. This may be the movie I’m most looking forward to this summer. Who would have thought?

- Film Threat

…having just watched the new trailer of the upcoming Star Trek movie, we are actually quite looking forward to it. Well, as much as the cynical gits in this office can get excited about a movie. It looks quite, um, good.

- HecklerSpray

Still on the fence about J.J. Abrams’ new Star Trek remake? You won’t be after watching the new trailer.

Space battles! Interstellar sky diving! Huge aliens! Scotty! This trailer has everything the previous trailers lacked.

- National Post  (Canada)

Beam me up already. The latest and most awesome trailer is opening screenings of “Watchmen” in theaters this weekend. I can only imagination how amazing it looks on the big screen. I’m giddy as a schoolgirl watching it on my computer—for the 20th time.

- Chicago Tribune

…no matter how rad you think that the new Star Trek trailer that you’re about to watch looks on your computer monitor, we guarantee it will look approximately 1,000 times more impressive when viewed on the big screen. As the tagline attests, this trailer gives some additional clues and insight into the rebellious Captain Kirk’s backstory, and goes a long way towards setting the table for Captain Kirk to have his very own Inigo Montoya moment with an evil Romulan played by Eric Bana. We are SO there.

- New York Magazine

 [headline] Sorry to say it, but the new Star Trek film looks fantastic

Paramount is tampering with the natural order of things. Not content with one fabulous Star Trek movie in 1996, they are now, it seems, giving us another.

- Daily Telegraph (UK)

Beam me up already. The latest and most awesome trailer is opening screenings of “Watchmen” in theaters this weekend. I can only imagination how amazing it looks on the big screen. I’m giddy as a schoolgirl watching it on my computer—for the 20th time.

- Chicago Tribune

I am by no means a major trek fan but I do love the looks of this new Star Trek film.

The trailer is both dark and flashy while having a touch of tween flare. I for one think that this take on Star Trek should start a brand new rampage for all things trek. Great writing and a great cast could really deliver this film franchise to new heights!

- Movies Online (Canada)

Looks pretty good

- Washington City Paper

I think this one makes a better pitch to the non-trekkie crowd, with more action, an actual sex scene and a less reverent tone. (Nary a Leonard Nimoy to be seen.)

I still think it will open big May 8 and then fade quickly, but I’m more willing now to give it a shot than I was after the first full-length trailer.

- Indiana Star

Man, this is one wicked Star Trek trailer.

- Dose.ca (Canada)

OK, I’m In

- Celebuzz/SocialiteLife

 

Watchmen a hit too + but not all showings have Trek trailer
A good piece of news is that the new Watchmen appears to be doing well. The film Paramount picked to premiere the new trailer with brought in $4.55 Million in Midnight showings on Thursday alone. Box Office Mojo is estimating the film will bring in $70 Million over the weekend.

Unfortunately, like with Quantum of Solace for the last trailer, not every screening of Watchmen has the Trek trailer. It is hard to estimate a percent, but it is likely a minority of screens that are not showing the Trek trailer. The reasoning is that since Watchmen is distributed by Warner Brothers in the US, the trailer is not literally ‘attached’ to the print, as it would be if it were a Paramount film (like the teaser trailer was with Cloverfield). If you are concerned, call your theater and ask.


Watch it again!

Trailer now online at the official site and
at the Apple Trailers Star Trek page (in HD).

 
CLICK TO SEE TRAILER AT APPLE.com

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UK version trailer

German (dubbed) version

Star Trek Trailer via TOS
Of course the new Star Trek trailer will inspire clever mashups (like it did last time). One of the better mashers is Alan Rhodes (see his version of the last trailer). This time he quickly put together another classic TOS version of the new trailer, check it out.

Thanks to Ulrich for sending in the YouTube link. There will certainly be more parodies/mashups so TM readers are encouraged to send in links they find (use tips link on right column).

Crying Trekkies?
Looking through the hundreds of comments about the trailer here at TrekMovie.com, you can see that quite a few of the fans were literally brought to tears by the new trailer. The moment Kirk takes the chair or Nero talking about Kirk “being a great man” seem to be particularly emotional. This kind of thing combined with the media comments above indicate how this film may deliver on JJ Abrams’ promise of bringing two kinds of movie, one for the fans, and one for everyone else. If these kinds of emotional outbursts are going to be common, then Paramount and CBS may want to partner with Kleenex for a some (travel sized) Trek branded facial tissues for fans to bring with them to theaters in May.


Kirk takes a seat for the first time…and some Trekkies reach for the Kleenex

More trailer coverage coming
TrekMovie is not done yet. We have our usual shot by shot analysis and more. Stay tuned. 

Comments

1. Steve - March 7, 2009

One by one, we’re winning them over…

2. Dab - March 7, 2009

Saw it in front of Watchmen last night. What a trailer!!! Watchmen was good too. ;)

3. Demonfafa - March 7, 2009

I got no trailer in front of Watchmen last night. I’m hearing similar stories all across the U.S.

And I’m in a major city, so it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

4. That One Guy - March 7, 2009

1,
I prefer the term “assimilating them.”

5. Chroma - March 7, 2009

Of course we’re winning them over. All the trailors have been fantastic. That said, I didn’t see the new one with Watchman last night. :[

6. THE SMOKE - March 7, 2009

The trailer is sooo amazing that Star Trek will be reborn to a whole new generation.

7. T2 - March 7, 2009

Yes! Great stuff.

8. Navy - March 7, 2009

I have to admit that I’m really liking the new enterprise, but if we are so lucky to have more star trek coming in the future… does that mean they’ll mess with the TMP enterprise too?

All in All I’m stoked.

9. Steve - March 7, 2009

@ 4

Yup, that works too. At this point, resistance really is futile.

10. B - March 7, 2009

A Star Trek fan my entire life (thanks to my Dad)… I was a little aprehensive about the whole reboot idea… but the more I hear about this, the more I want to see it. But now, I can honestly give Paramount my blessings… Go ahead and change the timeline, and Provide us an Alternate Star Trek Universe and lets do it over again and start another 40 years of Trek.

“I Like this Ship! It’s exciting!”

11. Carol - March 7, 2009

Awesome!

12. dcm - March 7, 2009

Seems like they’re doing an “about face” after catching this trailer! Keep proving them wrong JJ!!!

13. Mr. AtoZ - March 7, 2009

“Oh Captain, my Captain.”

14. richpit - March 7, 2009

That most recent trailer gives me goose bumps every time I watch it! It’s going to be awesome. I hope all the folks who are predicting a “fast fade” after opening night are wrong.

Also, that TOS mash-up is great!

15. Ensign Ricky - March 7, 2009

Open big and fade quickly? Who the heck are they trying to kid?

16. Mr. AtoZ - March 7, 2009

#10
Amen my friend…

17. section9 - March 7, 2009

Word of Mouth is the best advertising.

The fact that this third trailer has won them over at AICN is hugely important. When the Nemesis script leaked, they tore it apart at AICN and that began the process of killing that movie. Now, the people at AICN, and what’s more, the COMMENTERS, are lining up behind the film. They see a quality effort at good storywriting mated with good special effects, and that will leak out to the General Public.

AICN is huge. It was important for Bad Robot to win them over.

18. richpit - March 7, 2009

Oh, and what’s the deal with that Narada ship? Is it like a mobile black hole or something? The “rear” (or what appears to be the rear) looks like a black hole in the trailer.

19. ThePhaige - March 7, 2009

All good signs and as I have said before, what an exiting time for Trek.

20. Captain Dunsel - March 7, 2009

ausgeziechnet!

21. Daoud - March 7, 2009

#18 Kind of ties in with the old “canon” that Romulans use quantum singularities. That’s just techspeak anyway for black holes, which are neither really black, nor really holes. Should be interesting to see if this purported Trekbabble “red matter” is actually matter made of top, bottom, strange and charmed quarks, which are thousands of times denser than the up-down vanilla matter we’re made of…

22. Captain Dunsel - March 7, 2009

#18 – “Oh, and what’s the deal with that Narada ship? Is it like a mobile black hole or something?”

I believe it was established in TNG that the Romulan warp technology is in fact based on an artificial black hole. So, maybe this is just a nasty extension of that tech…

23. The Governator - March 7, 2009

This is fantastically overwhelming.

24. McCoy's Gall Bladder - March 7, 2009

Who was it that said explosions make great trailers?

(I know it’s a Stargate misquote)

Come to think of it, even Benjamin Button has explosions in it’s trailer…

Any psychoanalysts in the house?

25. JimJ - March 7, 2009

You know what, this movie is going to make me cry, for the first time since the Enterprise went up in flames in Star Trek 3 (also cried when Spock died in Trek 2). IF it’s the movie I think it is, I’ll cry with joy while watching. If it bombs in the theaters, I will cry over Star Trek’s death. If it is a huge hit, I’ll cry tears of joy that my loved one came out of a coma and is alive and healthy! Sorry for the tearful post, I just have a fantastic feeling about this movie.

26. Paulaner - March 7, 2009

#18 “Oh, and what’s the deal with that Narada ship? Is it like a mobile black hole or something? The “rear” (or what appears to be the rear) looks like a black hole in the trailer.”

TNG Romulans use small black holes as energy source on starships, right? I see some analogy.

27. CaptainRickover - March 7, 2009

# 18

It’s not the rear of the Narada, it’s a timehole, very similiar to the one the Borg created in First Contact. You see the ship flying through that thing.

28. Paulaner - March 7, 2009

#22

Oops, I didn’t read your post :)

29. Ciarán - March 7, 2009

When are we getting the shot-by-shot analysis? I need to see the beautiful screencaps from the trailer!!!

30. SPB - March 7, 2009

THE TWO THINGS I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ABOUT THE TRAILER:

The fact that Abrams & Co. DON’T resort to a) ultra-fast zoom-ins and b) sped-up, undercranked action… the two most egregious sins of most trailers today.

Yes, it’s still heavily edited so you’re not quite sure what you’re looking at, but that helps maintain the mystery. Overall, a FANTASTIC trailer.

31. Rick Moyer - March 7, 2009

This trailer simply rocks! It’s amazing. Can’t wait for the movie!!

Shout with me…

“CAN’T WAIT TILL THE 8th!”

32. SPB - March 7, 2009

And the single best moment of the trailer…

PIKE: “Enlist in Starfleet.”

Cue swelling, goose-bump-inducing music.

33. tribble farmer - March 7, 2009

Bwahahaha, we’re finally succeeding to assimilate the common masses. >8D

34. Admiral_BlackCat - March 7, 2009

An exciting time for Trek indeed. Not just for this new movie, but for all the series’ as well.

35. Selor - March 7, 2009

YEAH!
Resistance is futile, Trek will take over the world :D

36. dalek - March 7, 2009

#30 Plus the lack of the cheesy voice over guy, or the main character narrating in a very typical chisel-jawed cliched gruff voice hollywood way (the first Terminator S trailer springs to mind with).

37. MARCO - March 7, 2009

watchmen was great..so was the trailer…can not wait for may

38. Ciarán - March 7, 2009

#32

I think the best line in the trailer was, “James T. Kirk was a great man. But that was another life…!” But Pike’s line is great, also! Don’t get me wrong.

39. Boborci - March 7, 2009

25. JimJ – March 7, 2009
You know what, this movie is going to make me cry, for the first time since the Enterprise went up in flames in Star Trek 3 (also cried when Spock died in Trek 2). IF it’s the movie I think it is, I’ll cry with joy while watching. If it bombs in the theaters, I will cry over Star Trek’s death. If it is a huge hit, I’ll cry tears of joy that my loved one came out of a coma and is alive and healthy! Sorry for the tearful post, I just have a fantastic feeling about this movie.

Hug?

40. Fansince9 - March 7, 2009

Woo-hoo! I say we Trek fans do all we can to make this the highest grossing film of 2009. Dare anybody you know (who isn’t in to Star Trek) to see this trailer. Take as many people as you can, with you to the theatres to see the film on it’s opening weekend. In fact, make it a family & friends event, and invite everyone you know.

41. Peter F - March 7, 2009

All things Star Trek aside, that is one of the best trailers I’ve ever seen for a movie, and at 42, I’ve seen a LOT of trailers. The previous trailer was pretty darn good, but this one knocked it out of the park. This needs to be placed by Paramount in front of every movie possible for the next two months.

This movie is going to be HUGE. I hope they have the next one ready to go into preproduction ASAP.

42. Fansince9 - March 7, 2009

39: Don’t feel bad, I’ll be crying, too. I think we all will, any of those scenarios.

43. Loskene - March 7, 2009

Can anyone get me a working download link for the 1080p trailer? The one from that terrible apple site just doesn’t work. All I get is a worthless 0kb .mov file

44. Bob - March 7, 2009

I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve watched the new trailer. Linked to it from my facebook page and sent out a massive “HOLY FRAK – CHECK OUT THIS TRAILER” e-mail to my buds. The music in this thing STILL gives me goose-bumps every time I see it. I really hope that it’s actual music from the film or if not, I hope that it has music of the same calibur. I’m about to go out to see “Watchmen” and really hope that it has the trailer linked. If not, then I have a feeling that I’ll be seeing “Watchmen” a second time! REALLY looking forward to going to the Arclight to see the Enterprise models on display. Anyone want photos of it? I plan to make a kit bash of a classic Enterprise model into the new one…

45. Ron Mosher - March 7, 2009

I was very impressed by what I saw. Gene’s creation is going to live forever!

46. Carlg - March 7, 2009

“Sorry to say it, but the new Star Trek film looks fantastic”
Heh. No apologies necessary, Daily Telegraph. But what a veddy, veddy British way to put it.

Man, I’d better get to see this trailer when I go see Watchmen. there was no Trek trailer when I went to see Quantum of Solace — twice!

47. Katie G. - March 7, 2009

#39. Boborci

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Can’t wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

kg

48. Sci Fi Geek - March 7, 2009

I am 26 years old. I have been a star trek fan for 20 of those years. I have fond memories as a child in the late 80s and early 90s of repeatedly watching TOS movies on television. Major fan of Kirk, Spock and gang. I was one of those who was devastated when Kirk died in Generations. Sure we had TNG crew for many years after. But for me, it was never quite the same.

Yesterday I saw something which made all those fond memories come flooding back. I am of course refering to the new star trek trailer. “James T Kirk was a great man, but that was another life!” that line was so powerful and sentimental, it literally had me in tears. Thank you JJ, Bob Alex and crew for bringing this new exciting vision of star trek. You’ve brought out emotions I have not felt since I was 6 years old.

Boborci – Big Hug!!!

49. Terpor - March 7, 2009

This movie will kick arse!.

50. The Real Star Trek is over with - March 7, 2009

There is only one TOS and it starred William Shatner, Certainly not these pimple faced teenagers barely out of their diapers!

The movie is going to bomb, sink to the bottom and that will be the end of Trek at long last without a doubt, AND this idea pleases me as a true Trek fan of TOS and TNG and DS9!

Nor do we need a remake of Citizen Kane or a new version of The Mona Lisa either.

Superficial Idiots……

51. SPB - March 7, 2009

SERIOUS QUESTION FOR BOBORCI:

I’d love to take my daughter and nephew to see STAR TREK, who’d both be the same age as I was when I saw the original STAR WARS back in ’77 (roughly 5 years old).

But do you think this movie will be too intense for young tykes? I’m pretty sure I’ve heard you guys are aiming for a PG-13. If so, I’ll probably keep the tykes at home. (Gotta admit, as much as I like the trailer, it doesn’t exactly look like a fun time for kids.)

52. Warren - March 7, 2009

Star Trek trailer is not playing with the Watchmen in Montreal. I was disappointed. Then I was disappointed with the movie..but that’s another story.

53. Fansince9 - March 7, 2009

#50: Most of the time when somebody needs attention, they get it by “flaming”, or by causing controversy. Kind of like a child who feels ignored by his mother. He acts out so as to just get her to look at him.

I know you are looking for a response from what you wrote, and I believe this is the reason why. I normally wouldn’t respond to nonsense like that, but in this case I will by telling you it’s nice to know I can roll my eyes at comments like yours. Get a life. You could probably use a brain, too.

54. SupremeDalekOnTheBridge - March 7, 2009

This is over a year late, but I did’nt see the Star Trek trailer with Cloverfield! I saw it a week earlier with Sweeney Todd. This was in Ireland, so if the dates sound wrong to the US release dates, that’s why.

55. Selor - March 7, 2009

@50 Go Home and watch your DVDs ;)

56. dav - March 7, 2009

Great trailer! But anyone who cries during it needs some help.

57. DavidJ - March 7, 2009

I’m excited for the movie too, but enough with all the crying people. It’s a freakin trailer! LOL

58. The Real Star Trek is over with - March 7, 2009

53? , no flame mister!…….. just MY opinion.

and what I believe to be the facts, we do not need or does TOS deserve a rehash of what is already a classic beyond compare…what we needed if anything was a NEW version of Trek without stealing away ferom the past already presented, a DS9 movie or beyond!

It is a great insult to the original Trek, I would feel the same if they rehashed TNG or DS9 as well with new actors and rip-off concepts!

59. DavidJ - March 7, 2009

56

Heh, looks like us two David’s think alike. : P

60. Boborci - March 7, 2009

51. SPB – March 7, 2009
SERIOUS QUESTION FOR BOBORCI

Hmmm. Depends. If they can handle creepy crawlies and rancor monster type scenes, they can probably sail through everything else. Somewhere between Return of the Jedi and Kahn from a 5 year old POV. In Kahn, the ear bug thing creeped me out as a kid, but others had no problem. Hope that helps.

61. SupremeDalekOnTheBridge - March 7, 2009

QUICK, SOMEBODY SHOOT THAT REDSHIRT!

62. JTRRP - March 7, 2009

This Movie is going to be AWSOME!!!! One question- Where is Nimoy??

63. The Real Star Trek is over with - March 7, 2009

55? …SORRY IF THE TRUTH HURTS

;)

64. Ben - March 7, 2009

boborci or Anthony,

Assuming this movie is going to be a smash hit at the box office, which it is!, how long will it be before Paramount makes their mind up about a sequal?

If I remember with Transformers, it was only a matter of a few months.

BTW, awesome job!!!

65. Selor - March 7, 2009

It doesn’t hurt and it isn’t the “Truth” (something like Truth and real doesn’t even exist…)
It was just a friendly advice for you… that you won’t be happy here, so just watch your TOS DVDs and let us others enjoy the new Movie, would you be so kind?

66. Bob - March 7, 2009

39 – BIG hug! (And same feelings with me as well. Trek 3 ended for me when they blew up the ship. Growing to like this new take on her the more I see her.)

67. Chris Doohan - March 7, 2009

39.

Got tissue? I’m feeling the love. :)

I’m off to see the Watchmen right now.

68. DavidJ - March 7, 2009

58

That’s an understandable viewpoint, but what you see as “stealing from the past” I see as “honoring” it. When it comes to Trek, TOS is the heart and soul of the franchise. I’d much rather we got back to that instead of knocking out another tired TNG sequel or another tired spinoff with a new captain no one cares about.

The way I see it, if Abrams really wanted to take the EASY path, he wouldn’t be trying to reimagine a beloved classic.

69. Steve Short - March 7, 2009

With all we have seen in the Star Trek countdown books and Nero in the trailers could this movie have anything to do with “Balance of Terror” ? Could Nero be the son of the Romulan Commander and blames Kirk for his father’s dead in “Balance of Terror”?

70. Capt Mike Of The Terran Empire - March 7, 2009

#63. You are all by your self in your lonesome opinion. Nimoy himself blessed the movie and he was in the First pilot the Cage. Majel Roddenberry herself blessed Trek and she was also in the orignal Pilot. if the 2 who started it all can bless the Movie then im good with that and i for one who have been watching since 1975 and i also endorse the move. So you have your opinion. But you are in a vast minority. You have the Dvds and Vhs so just keep watching them and the rest of us will continue to bodly go where no man has Gone before. Oh and the New trailer simply kicks ass. Im so stoked for the New movie.

71. spark-1701 - March 7, 2009

Wow…I think I am actually coming around. The scene where Pine answers Urbans “we have no captain or first officer” with “yeah we do” is classic Kirk and I swear I thought I saw a young SHAT in PIne’s performance! Nero’s dialogue sent shivers up the spine. I think we finally have a villian worthy enough to stand next to Khan.

This trailer did make me want to cry. I feel that maybe I can identify with this Kirk in the same old way I did with the Shat.

#56 and 57# please just shut up and spare us your expert psychological analsys.

72. Capt Mike Of The Terran Empire - March 7, 2009

#67. I have some tissue for you Sir. Ill buy you the popcorn if you like.

73. shadow - March 7, 2009

All I have to say is frak Entertainment Weekly, thanks for insulting current trek fans, using BSG terminology, and calling this a traditional reboot all in the same review… really?

I have to say the TOS version of the trailer was awesome too.

74. Mark - March 7, 2009

I hate whiners, geez can’t you cut it out already, you hate the movie WE GET IT!

I myself will be seeing this movie.

It’s astounding how much coverage it’s getting.

BTW The Real Star Trek is Over with… (what a cheery name :P ) how do you know the movie is going to suck IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET?

75. 750 Mang - March 7, 2009

While I didn’t well up I get get a chill at Nero’s line, “James Kirk was a great man, but this is a different time.”

Really liked that.

RTF!

76. Bob - March 7, 2009

50 – I understand your reservations. I felt them a bit myself when I first heard about the concept for this movie. Why not make a DS9 or Voyager flick, or send the TNG crew out in a better manner than that awful “Nemesis” movie? But, the more I read and see about this one, the more I anticipate seeing what it is that these guys are offering up.

What’s most important is the story and it’s heart. I think if ANYONE should have reservations about it, it’s someone like Nimoy. I used to work on the Paramount Studio Lot years ago and I met the man several times in my capacity there. I can tell you that he’s a man of integrity and he certainly doesn’t need the money. If he was brought on board by the strength of the story, that says a lot to me. After all, if he was worried about them negating the bulk of his acting career, I highly doubt that he would have agreed to be in the film, let alone be such a supporter of it! I would say to the nay sayers, at least see the movie BEFORE you make your declarations of hating it. Who knows, you might even end up enjoying it.

77. Capt Mike Of The Terran Empire - March 7, 2009

#75. That was a great line. i also like when Nero said. Fire everything we got!!!. Wow. Worthy oh Khan himself.

78. Josh - March 7, 2009

The only way one can really diss a movie before you see it is if there is just clearly bad actiong and/or effects in the trailer. I’ve seen neither in any of the trailers, so I’m not sure how we can diss the movie before it starts.

I’m cautiously optimistic. It’d be nice if the end of the movie merged seamlessly into the start of TOS. If a new minor details get changed…who cares. It’s not like Star Trek didn’t already have continuity problems already at times.

My latest theory, however, is that the scene with Spock and Kirk at Starfleet where Spock is like “you will feel fear in the face of certain death.”….I’m wondering if that’s at the end of the movie when the two go off on their separate ways….for now (such as Spock going back to the Enterprise and Kirk going to whichever ship he served on after leaving the academy). Just thinkin’.

And am I the only one who thinks Bones sounds like Bones and Sulu sounds like Sulu?

79. Jordan - March 7, 2009

I’m still shocked at how amazing this newest trailer is. It’s literally all I’ve been watching for the past 24 hours. I’d like to think the folks at Paramount had established Trekkies in mind when they cut together this newest trailer… it plays as a marvelous tribute to the original cast. There seems to be a real reverence for the work that’s come before, for who could deny the impact of 40 years?
And yes, the stakes seem REALLY high with what appears to be a fabulous villain (thanks to the acting chops of the amazing Eric Bana.)

80. Chingatchkook - March 7, 2009

I just paid my $40 for the Pro version of Quicktime, I figured it was worth it just to have the .mov file of this masterpiece of a trailer. Definitely a worthwhile purchase!

81. Jordan - March 7, 2009

And for the record I was TOTALLY moved to tears by this trailer, and I’m a lifelong devoted Star Trek fan. So if any folks at Paramount read this, THANK YOU for reaffirming my faith in this new movie. The first trailer was amazing, but this trailer was exactly what I needed.

82. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#40 – “Woo-hoo! I say we Trek fans do all we can to make this the highest grossing film of 2009. Dare anybody you know (who isn’t in to Star Trek) to see this trailer. Take as many people as you can, with you to the theatres to see the film on it’s opening weekend. In fact, make it a family & friends event, and invite everyone you know.”

I’ll be at the theater all weekend opening weekend, to be sure. Our Trek club will be doing some heavy PR. :)

The trailer is very cool. Lots of good elements, and the Enterprise is looking better in these shots. Good moments with various characters, too. Such potential for this film!

As for the film, if, in the end, the chronologies link up and what comes out of this film is a world essentially (even if not perfectly) fitting together with the rest of Star Trek, I’ll be doing exactly as you say, and giving this film lots and lots…and lots…of ticket money. :)

If not, and it’s some totally different world that will allow (let alone encourage!) the rest of Trek to be ignored/set aside, I’m gonna finance my entire weekend at Shore Leave on the money I would have given to this movie.

Here’s hoping for the former, and for an awesome movie to follow a pretty cool trailer!

83. CardPri - March 7, 2009

New Trailer HD with Spanish subtitules for Latin America in:

http://www.cardassiaprimera.com.ar

Engage.

84. Datalore - March 7, 2009

#69, that’s the idea I’ve always had if they do some sort of trilogy.

For example, I think that in a sequel they may jump to the Balance of Terror stardate, everything prior to that will have been restored, but again we may see that whole time frame messed up because of Nero, and Balance of Terror may become waaaaayyy more complicated than just one space battle. Think about it.. after Nero, they now know what Romulans look like, which will naturally affect when they were SUPPOSED to first find out what they look like, right? It’s a natural tie-in to that episode!

And for a third movie, they may do a “Final Mission” type movie. Since JJ has always said “I can’t believe Trek never did an origin episode”, I’m sure he feels the same thing about the end of the 5 year mission!

85. Doug is home (at long last) - March 7, 2009

Hey! Where is Nacelles Monthly’s review? I volunteer to write it!

86. Check The Circuit - March 7, 2009

Pivotal moments in Star Trek History: (Moments that propelled the franchise forward or saved it from extinction…)

– TOS Premieres: 9/66
– TOS debuts in national syndication: 9/69
– Star Wars premieres: 5/77
– ST:TMP premieres: 12/79
– Nick Meyers and Harve Bennett roll out ST:TWOK: 5/82
– ST:TVH is a “cross-over” success: 11/86
– ST:TNG debuts in syndication: 9/87
– ST:TNG “crosses over” when cliffhanger “Best of Both Worlds” airs: 6/90
– ST:DS9 premieres and a second ST series runs concurrently: 1/93
– JJ Abrams and Co. roll out Star Trek for the new millennium (5/09)

Notice how long it’s been since Star Trek has enjoyed a major step forward? It’s been along time coming folks!!

87. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#58 – “and what I believe to be the facts, we do not need or does TOS deserve a rehash of what is already a classic beyond compare…what we needed if anything was a NEW version of Trek without stealing away ferom the past already presented, a DS9 movie or beyond!”

I get where you’re coming from, but I’m not really sharing that opinion. For one thing, I don’t think this movie is a rehash. For another, I think a TOS origin story is a wonderful idea, for a lot of reasons. The only part where Bob, Alex, JJ, etc. and I part company is that I think there was huge potential for an origin story set within the few elements of backstory we already knew, without the need to resort to a big, disruptive time travel tale.

But… I’m gonna give them a fair shot to tell their story and prove to me that my biggest concerns are unfounded, and that they can indeed deliver on the promise that the film holds.

If they can, awesome!

If they can’t, that’s another discussion, for another time.

Fair enough?

88. Pragmaticus - March 7, 2009

It’s entirely the music, I think, that’s going to make this movie really work. And the music in the trailer guarantees an operatic blockbuster. Bravo, Giacchino.

89. Check The Circuit - March 7, 2009

Since “Real Start Trek is Over” is so unwilling to accept change…our collective advise to him/her will need to be amended.

Enjoy the old episodes on VHS, my friend. BTW, you’ll need a converter box for your TV in June so you can still get a signal.

90. Closettrekker - March 7, 2009

#50—“There is only one TOS and it starred William Shatner…”

It’s a good thing then that Bad Robot is not remaking TOS.

What they are doing is revisting the 23rd Century under some rather intriguing circustances, IMO.

“It is a great insult to the original Trek…”

That’s absurd, and it could not be farther from the truth. The people who worked on The Original Series made something so wonderful that–more than 40 years later–it is still inspiring stories about those fantastic characters. That is an enormous tribute—not an insult.

You really need to gain some perspective.

91. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#86 – You’ve got a good list, though obviously some of the decisions about what propelled the franchise forward or not are clearly seen in hindsight.

For example, would not one argue that a fourth, and then a fifth, TV series propelled the franchise forward? If not, is it simply because a certain number of people didn’t like them, either in premise or execution?

Trying to be objective, I think I’d add more dates, such as the startups of ST: New Frontier in 1997 (first purely non-film Trek series) and the start of two new Trek series (ST: Vanguard and ST: Titan) in the same year in 2005.

And, to be perfectly fair, I think that either you need to include VOY and ENT on the list, or wait ’til the new movie premieres and see what effect it has, overall, before making *it* part of the list. After all, several months before their premieres, there was every bit as much hope that those two TV series would be bold steps forward for Star Trek, as well. That they turned out not to be as successful as hoped wasn’t known ’til after the first few episodes.

92. Commodore shaggy - March 7, 2009

I’ve been a believer in this for a while now but wow, talk about a trailer to solidify your beliefs. :P

93. buddykarl - March 7, 2009

Bring it on!! We’ve waited long enough and my patience is going thin! LOL

94. Doug is home (at long last) - March 7, 2009

While I am not a canon Nazi, I do get a feeling that Capt. Pike’s part in this movie is suspect and appears to be in for a major change…

If I were the writers and priducers I think I would have used Capt. Garrovick instead to avoid the clamoring that is sure to come…

of course, if this movie is an alternate time line and if all is corrected by film’s end I will gladly eat my concerns.

I canNOT wait!!!

95. KJTrek - March 7, 2009

#1: “Watchmen was good too”

I hope more people had THAT reaction – lol, if they do, then we’ve got them!

I think that line by Nero – “Kirk was a great man, but that was another time”, or whatever – gives me a lot of hope that this movie may reconcile whatever changes it makes, and if so, I’m even MORE excited by this movie, if that’s possible.

As a young Trekkie who grew up on Voyager and saw the failure of Nemesis (not a bad movie sadly) and the disappointments of Enterprise, I was worried I’d not get the chance to see a Trek movie on opening night, but now I’m working on getting a costume ready and I hope I can say (in Shatner-esque style) “It was… fun”!

96. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#84 – “And for a third movie, they may do a “Final Mission” type movie. Since JJ has always said “I can’t believe Trek never did an origin episode”, I’m sure he feels the same thing about the end of the 5 year mission!”

See, that’s why I’d always felt that an in-continuity TOS movie trilogy could have been done almost perfectly. Simple:

1 – “Origin story” – Never seen (on film, anyway) tale of how the characters came to be the way we saw then in TOS

2 – Mid 5-year mission story – TOS was episodic enough that a new tale could have been dropped in between episodes, or even set shortly after “Turnabout Intruder”, with zero disruption to what came before or after.

3 – End-of-mission story – Again, never seen on film, and a great capper to a trilogy.

Could have been perfect. :) Might yet still be viable. We’ll see.

97. The Governator - March 7, 2009

50. The Real Star Trek is over with

It seems to me that YOU are the superficial idiot. I mean, I understand your concerns, but you arrive at conclusions that have no grounds. This movie is going to bomb? So far, everything points towards success. This movie shouldn’t have any direct affect over your likeness for TNG, VOY, and DS9. What, do you think that this movie is going to erase those shows from existence? Hardly that, sir. Everything that has been will always be, and this new movie only adds to the collection. So whether you like the movie or not, your shows will always be there for you to watch. Hoping for a dismal turnout for a Star Trek movie is puzzling. Whatever. Different strokes for different folks

98. logical Trek - March 7, 2009

i always agreed with another fan who proposed a Commadore Bob Wesley Star Trek series aboard his ship The Lexinton, he was the compassonate Captain who knew Capt Kirk as friends and each trusted the other in the M-5 TOS story with four other starships!

Image the Universe Wesley lived in had to be at least as “interesting” as Kirks lol

ll&p

99. The Starfleet Conservative - March 7, 2009

to our dear friends at the trekmovie.com staff, did you happen to notice your good friend Senator Vreenak with a role in The Watchmen?

Its a faaaaaaaake!!!

Love the trailer, although I could care less about what that corrupt, biased, mainstream media has to say. Go Trek!!! :)

100. Chasco - March 7, 2009

“The scene where Pine answers Urbans “we have no captain or first officer” with “yeah we do” is classic Kirk ”

Three words.
CHAIN. OF. COMMAND.

Anyone on that bridge with a stripe – ANYONE – should be taking comand ahead of a cadet.
Bad enough that the film has to trash the Enterprise, the Bridge, and everything we know about the crew (Kirk cannot drive; he met Pike once; Chekov is at least 10 year younger than he is… and on, and on…), but when events don’t even make sense within their own new Universe there really isn’t much hope.
Is it too late to get them to film the novel ‘Enterprise: The First Adventure’ instead?

101. Closettrekker - March 7, 2009

#94—Welcome home, Doug.

I am as much a stickler for canon as anyone, but I do not feel that this film will tamper with any previously established canon. The very notion that they are utilizing a part of that very canon as a crucial element to the story makes use of the perfect inherent loophole.

The potential for an altered timeline being created within the Star Trek Universe due to interference with the past is a part of that canon almost as old as the Original Series itself.

“I do get a feeling that Capt. Pike’s part in this movie is suspect and appears to be in for a major change…”

Is it really a ‘change’—or merely an alternate ending?

Chris Pike, in the timeline in which the story begins, ends up living out his days on Talos IV with Vina. That cannot change, regardless of what happens in an altered timeline. In fact, it is a part of the long succession of events which leads the story to this point.

102. Check The Circuit - March 7, 2009

@ 91

Fair comments. My list is about the key moments that “saved” Star Trek (like TWOK) and pushed the total numbers of viewers/fans higher. (VOY and ENT, plus the premiere of on-line series, are important events but they didn’t build on audience. In fact, it was declining by then.) And I’m definitely “drunk” with the enthusiasm posters are showing from the impact of the new trailer by assuming the new movie will deliver the biggest numbers ever.

But in my heart of hearts, from what we’ve seen so far and that Star Trek seems to be getting A LOT of attention, the new movie is going to be a huge blockbuster with mainstream audiences…propelling the franchise to new heights.

103. logical Trek - March 7, 2009

I mispelt ….”Lexington”….. :(

illogical!

seriously tho ……..a Bob Wesley TREK! Same time as Kirk and the gang work be great imo, i feel sad fot the old time trekky who feels this is the end of trek!..Dont worry old trekker only fan…..

…………..”THE HUMAN ADVENTURE IS JUST BEGGINING!” ………STTMP!

LL&P

104. AJ - March 7, 2009

New York Magazine:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/03/star_trek_trailer_mix.html

And they don’t like anything.

105. khwj1 - March 7, 2009

i’m unashamed to say this trailer got me emotional. i dont think any trailer has made me emotional before, its the background music’s fault! last time star trek made me emotional was the finale of star trek VI, when McCoy says “She’s ready Jim, lock ‘n load”

does anyone have any ideas of how they’re gonna do a sequel to this? just continue in this alternate timeline??

106. LoyalStarTrekFan - March 7, 2009

34, you are absolutely correct. If this film is a huge success then people will start checking out the rest of Star Trek. And, for the most part, they won’t be disappointed. CBS is counting on this with all of their new Star Trek merchandising coming out around May. I hope that it all works and the next decade will be a great decade to be a Trekkie much like the 1990’s were. Maybe the next decade will be even better than the 1990’s. I look forward to it.

107. LoyalStarTrekFan - March 7, 2009

We are indeed assimilating the mainstream public. Excellent news.

108. Daoud - March 7, 2009

#100 Kirk has graduated. He is not a cadet. Plus, he is a graduate with additional experience (yet to be revealed). And since he was posted to Acting First Officer by Pike, your “chain.of.command” is just fine. Pike puts Spock as Acting Captain. Spock beams down to Vulcan. Scene proceeds. Kirk states fact. He’s now the chain.of.command captain.

109. spock - March 7, 2009

If Pike gets hurt in this movie’s story, the whose to say that the Menagerie never happened? The Enterprise could have been to Talos already.

110. franbro - March 7, 2009

`88, I read that the music in the trailer is from the buffy ep:Chosen. Very often the music in trailers is not from the film and borrowed from something else. I’m hoping the music really kicks ass like a Williams or a Goldsmith type sitch.

:)

111. Derek - March 7, 2009

Who wants the time line corrected by movies end? No way. Lets move forward and see all that has changed. We have been on that old time line for 40 years. Technology has changed. Our viewpoint of the world has changed. Trek needed to be modern and revelant and it hasn’t been in a long time. I was a big fan of TOS. I have been watching it since it was first run. This reboot is simply awesome looking. Lets all enjoy a new trek with old friends.

That trailer is awesome. I haven’t been this excited about Trek since, well maybe ever.

112. Open Maw Productions - March 7, 2009

#88 I’m pretty sure the music in this trailer isnt by Giacchino, right?

113. Daoud - March 7, 2009

#112 Check out the official website startrekmovie.com

The music that now plays in the background. That seems to be new, and something Giacchino. It’s Trek-like, but I can’t place it.

114. khwj1 - March 7, 2009

#113:
i’m taking a shot in the dark but if you’re from India, you’ll have heard something very similar to the background music on startrekmove.com in an Indian (Bollywood) song called ‘Dil de diya hai’ from the film ‘Masti’ (2004)

#BobOrci:
Following on from someone else’s question earlier about taking a 5-year old to watch the film, I’m a little worried about the scene with Kirk and the Orion girl… despite the camera being more zoomed in, it actually looks worse (aka ‘more dodgy’)… could i really take a kid to watch it?

115. Capitaine Picard Jr - March 7, 2009

Merde! J’en ai la chaire de poule!
Amazing trailer and amazing film to come…
JJ, Paramount, Anthony, I rest in peace…
The wait is over
The planet will federate
Engage

116. Valar1 - March 7, 2009

105

“i’m unashamed to say this trailer got me emotional.”

Hey, you and me both, pal. I’m 40 yrs old, and I didn’t think a freakin trailer could choke me up, but when Kirk sits in the chair for the first time and the music swelled, that broke me up. And reading everyone’s post where they say Trek is reinvigorated, that makes me so emotional. It’s hard to describe, but when I was a kid I had an absent dad and older brothers who were into their own thing, Trek was the crutch that got me through to adulthood. And now hopefully I can share the new treks with my children, whenever I have them, lol.

117. Cervantes - March 7, 2009

Been away a while recently, but have come back to one of the greatest trailers ever! The action looks great, and the music matched to it, is awesome once again.

It a personal tragedy for me then, that I’ll ALWAYS dislike so many of the Production Design ‘choices’ in this, for the likes of the ‘Enterprise’s’ exterior, etc., lol….

Still, on a positive note, this should get quite a few previously disinterested audience-members onboard…. :)

118. McCoy - March 7, 2009

Well, many will discount this comment as negative, I prefer to think of it as fact-ful.

The photo above is reallt “this Kirk” sitting in “that chair” for the first time.
I like Pine but he is not portraying our Kirk nor is he sitting in the chair we knew, bridge we recognize or in a ship that fits with anything. So I fail to see why anyone would get giddy over that moment. The only glue is the name.

It would have been cool to see Pine (Kirk) wearing gold assume command over the real Enterprise on the real bridge under classic and un-altered circumstances. Unfortunately, so much effort appears to have been put to prevent that moment from ever happening.

Unless of course the moment above is from the kobayashi maru test of couse. :o)

119. AJ - March 7, 2009

Music info for the trailers:

http://www.twostepsfromhell.com/index-home.php

Trailer 2: (link on homepage)

“This Star Trek Trailer features the custom score ‘Down With The Enterprise’ and the musical theme begins after the boy says “My name is “James…Kirk” ”

Trailer 3: (reference on bottom of page)

These were composed specifically for the trailers by Two Steps from Hell. Make some noise to get ‘em on the soundtrack CD!

120. Steven - March 7, 2009

I got chills the first hundred times I watched it, then tears the next hundred times!

Even if I wasn’t a Trek fan, I’d love to go and see this movie. But being a Trek fan, I think this will definitely be the best of both worlds in terms of the quality of the film: a film for Trekkers and non-trekkers alike. I for one cannot wait!

God bless!

121. Josh - March 7, 2009

118 – part of the problem is that “classic and un-altered circumstances” already has the Enterprise bridge being a good deal more primitive than even today’s technology. I have no problem with redoing the bridge just because it’s pretty much a necessary evil given the march of technology.

122. J.A.G.T. - March 7, 2009

@50: A remake of Citizen Kane? – hey, that sounds like a great idea :P

123. Troy - March 7, 2009

A casting mistake. Now, the question is, who will continue as Kirk and Spock in the reboot of the Star Trek franchise? I would have brought in fresh young actors like Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner and the rest of the crew. Then if this movie became successful, continue their missions. Now, it’s another cast change like James Bond or Superman. Fail

124. Daoud - March 7, 2009

119 But is there any info on the startrekmovie.com background music that has been recently added? Not the trailer music, but the site music….

125. troubled tribble - March 7, 2009

As far as the chain of command thing with Kirk taking over I agree that at face value it looks ridiculous, but we don’t know ANY of the context of the story yet. i have to think that Orci would have a plausable reason. We don’t know the implications of the Kobayashi Maru story… there must be some reason why they all look to him and I would guess it is addressed to our satisfaction in the end. Bob, if you are in here do you have any thoughts?

126. fred - March 7, 2009

We old school fans will just have to squint and pretend these are our actors in the original circimstances on the old ship if it’s to be meaningful to us. I know I’ll enjoy it, but not as much as knowing that what we are seeing was the actual history. Must be done, though, if Trek is to survive and thrive.

127. fred - March 7, 2009

(Nary a Leonard Nimoy to be seen.)
– Indiana Star

They’re in for a surprise.

128. TrekTwenty - March 7, 2009

@ 100

I get what you’re saying… there are inconsistencies. But honestly, most of them really aren’t important. It’s really not a big deal that Kirk can drive a car now, or that he’s now met Pike before he was supposed to have met him, or that he has blue eyes, or that Chekov is older than we think he should be. Minor details. I’m willing to let them go in favor of making the movie a more enjoyable experience.

And if this latest trailer is any indication, it will be a VERY enjoyable experience.

129. pizi - March 7, 2009

I was thinking about the Enterprise not built in San Francisco shipyards and I think that in the fight where USS Kelvin was destroyed, was also destroyed San Francisco shipyards. USS Kelvin propably protected the shipyards. It would then make sense that Kirks father saved 800 lives. What do you think folks?

130. Allan - March 7, 2009

Good movie, terrible choice of actors. They need to be young unknown actors that will continue the 5 year mission to reboot the franchise.

131. Stewie - March 7, 2009

100 & 108 – I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this previously, but isn’t it possible Kirk is at the academy for command school like Saavik in TWOK? If so, he could already be a rated officer. Didn’t Orci mentioned his black uniform shirt had something to do with being a Capt. ? Maybe that’s the command school uniform…………..

132. Cenobyte - March 7, 2009

118: it’s sad but as much as I love the original Enterprise and her bridge, filming a movie using that set would have been a bad choice in a 2009 Star Trek movie. It would appeal only to folks like yourself and me and alienate a wider audience, which is what we need if Star Trek is to survive beyond fan productions. We’ve got Callaway’s New Voyages/Phase II out there to at least partly satisfy that old school feeling, not to mention all the ToS and original movies coming in HD This is a good thing for Star Trek in my opinion… see the movie and then make up your mind after that… you can always ignore it afterwords if you still find it offensive, but if you go in with an open mind you might be blown away, which I hope is the case for everyone!

133. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#111 – ‘Who wants the time line corrected by movies end?”

ME! :)

(I’m sure there re others, but I’ll let them speak for themselves. ;) )

I like the timeline we’ve had. I think there’s lots of potential to do more in it, for every Trek series.

But that’s just MHSHO, and your mileage may of course vary.

134. Ernie - March 7, 2009

Maybe an alternate universe storyline with how the Borg came into existence would have been better.

135. New Horizon - March 7, 2009

118. McCoy – March 7, 2009
Well, many will discount this comment as negative, I prefer to think of it as fact-ful.

It is neither negative or factual….it’s an opinion.

There is no ‘real’ Kirk. Kirk was a character portrayed by the same actor for several decades. We were lucky to have seen that. This is still James T Kirk, same DNA but with an altered path. Despite all of that, it appears that his destiny brings him to the Enterprise. Also looks like the Enterprise was built many years later due to this shift in the timeline…yet, she was built and destiny brought them together. Kind of romantic…like many great Trek stories are.

136. screaming satellite - March 7, 2009

hey they should organise special crying screenings…for those who think they might cry (i aint talking about a little sniffle..im talking FULL ON…LIKE A BABY!!…) they get to go to a seperate screen with seats fitted with boxes of hankies and oxygen masks…and at key emotional scenes there will be roars of crying ….could even hold a crying competetion..each trekkie tries to cry harder than the next one and the one who crys the loudest and most wins..

137. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#1232 – “it’s sad but as much as I love the original Enterprise and her bridge, filming a movie using that set would have been a bad choice in a 2009 Star Trek movie. It would appeal only to folks like yourself and me and alienate a wider audience, which is what we need if Star Trek is to survive beyond fan productions.”

I think it’s pretty obvious that we couldn’t film a movie on “that set”. I agree; it would have been a bad choice. You mentioned James and his team: even their bridge isn’t “that set”. ;) They’re using dynamic screens in a number of spots, too, which is what a feature film bridge would obviously have to do, as well.

I have no real problem with doing an update of the bridge set; I just wish the version they used was a little closer to the original in terms of general configuration. Really, though, that’s more an aesthetic quibble than anything else, and isn’t a make-or-break for the entire movie in my eyes.

138. Dura Europus - March 7, 2009

This is what Star Trek needed all along – since the demise of TNG. This is a rediscovery of it’s soul and essence.

It’s nice to see the 1701 kick so much ass again.

139. ThePhaige - March 7, 2009

Perhaps in this new time line as they age…Kirk and Scotty can still fit into a size 36 pant.

I’m stoked about the Movie and hope with it all, that it is wildly successful. I used to hope they restored the time line we know, but I have gravitated towards just moving forward from wherever they end up. This opens the doors for a wild trip forward, rather than the next movie being a remake of either a classic episode, or a mission between the classic episodes, or a new TWOK etc etc. I think I have opened my mind to embrace this.

140. Schultz - March 7, 2009

Bergerson’s blog with some info on the trailer music:

http://nemesis2.wordpress.com/

141. Third Remata'Klan - March 7, 2009

I have always, always, ALWAYS had faith in this movie.

It will NOT disappoint.

142. fwise3 - March 7, 2009

I think… I may die of a heart attack during this movie… it just looks…. SO EPIC! I wish I’d have a heart rate monitor on the first time I saw each trailer for this movie… my heart rate jumps at least 40-50 bpm…

143. Dan - March 7, 2009

I’m thinking Kirk has a rank that his other crew members aren’t aware of. Him still not being sure whether he wants to serve in the Starfleet, Pine dies/injured he has no other alternative but too, being that the ship needs a captain. Just me being hypothetical.

There’s a direct link to download the trailer on this site. All the previos ones as well.
http://www.davestrailerpage.co.uk/

144. fwise3 - March 7, 2009

*I think… I may die of a heart attack during this movie… it just looks…. SO EPIC! I wish I’d have had a heart rate monitor on the first time I saw each trailer for this movie… my heart rate jumped at least 40-50 bpm…

145. Closettrekker - March 7, 2009

#118—“The photo above is reallt “this Kirk” sitting in “that chair” for the first time.
I like Pine but he is not portraying our Kirk nor is he sitting in the chair we knew, bridge we recognize or in a ship that fits with anything. So I fail to see why anyone would get giddy over that moment. The only glue is the name.”

James T. Kirk is more than a name, but less than an actual person. He is a fictional character. William Shatner never actually commanded a starship. He just pretended to be someone (JTK) who did for a long time. If your imagination is so limited as to not allow you to believe that Pine can just as easily pretend to be the same character—then I don’t know what to tell you, except that you may be putting unnecessary limits upon yourself and your ability to enjoy a new generation of Star Trek stories.

The chair and the bridge do not really exist in the 23rd Century either. The ones you saw before are products of what certain people thought (back in the 60’s) that 23rd century starship bridges (and the Captain’s chairs on them) might look like. 4 decades of perspective-altering time has passed since then. Why you are convinced that our 1960’s vision of what the 23rd Century might look like should not have changed in more than 40 years is beyond me. We have progressed since then. So should our vision for the future, no?. If the TOS-era Enterprise wasn’t deemed spectacular enough for a big budget film in 1979, why would it be in 2009? If you cannot allow yourself to “imagine” that this is the same ship, then is it really their problem—or yours?

146. Mr. Bob Dobalina - March 7, 2009

Star Trek has not been reborn. After almost 20 years of something completely different..it’s continuing. Nice to be back on track!

And as far as The watchmen goes…well, it IS delivering the trailer to a lot of people..so that’s one good thing I can say about it.

147. Buzz Lancaster - March 7, 2009

.
Em bom Português…

Caraca, é FORTE… Muito forte tudo isso…

A referência aos Kleenex é mesmo boa… pois certamente muitos trekkers irão se emocionar…! E eu sou um deles!

Pra quem chorou até mesmo ao ver o Kirk original morrendo de “ponte”, este filme parece ser realmente um NOVO desafio visual e emocional, ainda mais contando com o velho Nimoy talvez em sua derradeira aparição como Spock…!!

Estou esperando, ansioso – mesmo não gostando 100% da questão de “reboot” e de algumas “liberdades visuais” tomadas…

Mas certamente tudo será um momento, como diria o velho guerreiro Klingon Kor… “Glorioso”…!!

Traduzindo:

Gee-zus, it’s HEAVY… Very heavy all this…

The Kleenex refference is really quite suitable… Certainly some many trekkers will be shaken…! And I’ll be one of them!

For somone who even cryed by seeing the old and original Kirk dying of “bridge” this movie seems to be a NEW real visual and emotional chalenge! Even more vy having the old Nimoy maybe in his last appearance as Spock…!!

I’m eager waiting – even thoug i’m not 100% buying the reboot question and some other “creative updates” taken…

But certainly all will be a moment, as oll Klingon Warrior Kor would say… “Glorious”…!!
.

148. Third Remata'Klan - March 7, 2009

Okay, that mashup was awesome. Well done!

149. Buzz Lancaster - March 7, 2009

*** Sorry for the mistakes…!! ;o)

150. Anthony Pascale - March 7, 2009

“The Real Star Trek is over with”
Firstly stop changing your name and go back to your original. Also you do not have a monopoly on ‘the truth’ or ‘the real trek’ or the right to call fans ‘idiots’ so a big warning for trolling

151. Third Remata'Klan - March 7, 2009

#145 – Closettrekker

Well, well said.

Who can doubt this movie after what we’ve seen?

152. Rastaman - March 7, 2009

Chris Pine will surely inhabit this character as emphatically as William Shatner did. The fact that Shatner’s Kirk died Trekkies surely have not forgotten. Nero’s line “Captain Kirk was a great man, but that was another life,” speaks to the loss. When I heard that line, I realized just how bittersweet Shatner’s absence truly is.

It’s time to move on and start fresh, and the writers appear to be doing it in the right way. Respecting what went before, but not allowing it to overburden the creativity and change that is necessary to revitalize the franchise.

153. JimJ - March 7, 2009

#39-Wow, I left a comment about my emotions and did some work I was behind on for my job. I come back and I have a hug from Bob Orci and a new paragraph about Kleenexes and Star trek fans from Anthony!!!!??? Wow, sorry if I took Trek fans from their parent’s basements to a baby crib instead. I’m just feeling it for this movie, I don’t ever remember being quite this excited. I MUST SEE THE TRAILER IN THE THEATER!!!! I suppose I better warn the people around me that they might get tears flung their way-LOL!!!! Oh, and to the person (#56) who said that a trailer making people cry is a sign of people who need help: well, I technically said that this MOVIE would make me cry. But, I have a hunch I’m gonna need help when I see this trailer in the theater.

OH, and THANKS, BOB!

154. Mirror Jordan - March 7, 2009

I don’t cry over the new trailer, but dammit, it surely gives me chills!

This is gonna be the most successful Trek of them all!

155. ss - March 7, 2009

Is it just me, or does the second monster that eats the first monster on the ice planet look like the thing from Tremors?

156. Josh - March 7, 2009

155 – well, I’m pretty sure it’s the big red monster we saw in the last trailer.

And thus ended the first, last, and only time Star Trek was compared to Tremors :D

157. Partially Bigoted Zealots - March 7, 2009

My local theater for some god forsaken reason refuses to air the Trek trailers to the movies they come enclosed with. Didn’t do it for this one, and no luck with Watchmen! I will never see these trailers on the big screen….as long as they carry the frakkin’ film I guess I’ll survive.

158. ss - March 7, 2009

156: Come on, you know as well as I that, somewhere, deep in the back of the shelf where you keep your DVDs, slipped in between your wedding video and Ghostbusters 2, is a copy of Tremors…

159. Josh - March 7, 2009

158 – but that wouldn’t be in alphabetical order!

160. Captain Haro - March 7, 2009

I am ready to head out the door right now with my sleeping bag to stand in line.

161. Simon - March 7, 2009

60 – Boborci:

I can’t believe that the biggest fan and part of the team bringing us this terrific film misspelled “Khan!”

As in “KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNN!

162. CmdrR - March 7, 2009

Stupid Merchants Walk in Marietta, GA showed Watchmen WITHOUT the Trek trailer.

Damn you! Damn you all to hell…!

163. JimJ - March 7, 2009

#161-Some people just spell better than others; don’t be messin’ with a guy who hands out hugs! LOL

164. SPB - March 7, 2009

#60 BOBORCI –

Thanks so much for the honest reply! I’ll most likely catch a showing on my own and decide from there if I want to risk taking the kiddies.

Always a class act… thanks again for the response!

165. Ensign Ro- (short for Roland) - March 7, 2009

I really dig the new trailer. So much so, that I’m recreating it on the GoAnimate site. I have most of the visuals done but I DESPERATELY need the audio track from the trailer. I can’t find an MP3 of it online anywhere and know of no way to separate the audio from the online video. Does anyone here have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

166. Jon - March 7, 2009

I just got back from seeing Watchmen on IMAX here in Manchester UK, sadly they showed trailer #2… oh well.

167. Jamie - March 7, 2009

Oh.

After spending the last day trying to find some way to see this trailer, I have finally managed to get hold of it.

After watching it in decent quality, I can now see LOADS more detail than the one I saw on YouTube. The YouTube had a frame rate of about 1 frame per second, and kept stopping and starting. But the actual trailer has loads of really quick clips that you would NEVER see on the YouTube version.

I can appreciate a little more why people are liking this trailer. Although I am still not quite so sure why it has had SUCH a positive reaction. About 80% of it is scenes we’ve already seen in the previous trailer, so what’s the big deal?

To be honest, the only thing I really loved about this trailer was the music, which is not necessarily even from the film.

Now, if we knew that this was actually an excerpt from Michael Giacchino’s score — THEN I would be really excited, because it is excelent. But no one seems to know that.

Another thing that most people seem to love, which didn’t grab me, was Kirk sitting in the chair. People seem to be seeing that as a really powerful emotional scene, but to me it was far too wide a shot to be emotional. Kirk just looked tiny in the shot and I didn’t sense anything particularly dramatic about Pine’s body language. He just sat down. That’s not to say it won’t be a big moment in the film, but in that extremely brief clip I don’t get any particular sense of it being a great moment.

I am REALLY looking forward to this film, and I have been for years. But if anything this trailer makes me less optimistic because we hardly saw any new scenes, making me suspect that there are only so many set pieces to this film and they have all been spoilt already. (Although I really hope it is more a case of there being a LOT more set pieces and the creators are just doing a great job of not giving too much away.)

I always say a good trailer should never show anything from the second half of the film. Hopefully this trailer will not have shown too much and there will be some surprises left. I really hope so.

168. rockstarcm15 - March 7, 2009

If you have been reading the “Countdown” comic, I think you get even more out of this trailer. Knowing why Nero is doing what he is doing, you begin to feel for him which makes him a tragic villain. When he screams “Fire everything!” in desperation, that’s the point that I became most emotional. This film will be fantastic because I believe we may have a villain greater than Khan. We shall see.

169. James - March 7, 2009

Nero basically tries to alter history thats why we have this point of view of the 23rd century. I bet when Nero and his ship are defeated TOS will return to it’s original self.

170. ThePhaige - March 7, 2009

#168

I think having read both the Countdowns myself also enhanced the emotional depth for me. You know what Nero has lost and he trusted others in good faith only to feel betrayed. I think the movie will flesh this out as well without having read Countdown,. We just happen to have some back story.

171. Selor - March 7, 2009

I so hope that this is not the case… where is the sense of a movie if you hit the reset button at the end…

172. The Last Maquis - March 7, 2009

I’m not coming around, I’m even more of a skeptic, after this.

173. rockstarcm15 - March 7, 2009

#170

I’m glad you agree. I think the skeptics and the believers will be surprised at how deep this film will be once everyone knows the stakes that are involved.

174. troubled tribble - March 7, 2009

Just a cool tidbit…. if you pause the trailer at the 1:49 mark there is the primary hull of a starship split down the middle in the foreground… the name on the hull says LOWE and you can almost make out her registry. Very cool shot like nothing we have ever seen from Trek before! And the shot from behind right before it, is that a starbase or something ahead? It looks to large to be another primary hull… if it is she is WAY bigger than Big E. Dreadnought maybe? There is also a body floating in front of the sun in that shot. the FX in this are going to cause me to break the pause button on my DVD player when the time comes!!

175. boborci - March 7, 2009

161. Simon – March 7, 2009

oops!

176. Anthony Pascale - March 7, 2009

175 omg

maybe the kid really is saying ‘Siberius’!

177. Fansince9 - March 7, 2009

Okay I don’t have countown yet, time to go to Books-A-Million!

178. Josh - March 7, 2009

174 – good catch about the Lowe and the body. I believe the thing we see in front of them IS the Lowe (and you can almost make out registry numbers on that one too. looks like something-52 or something-62.

Dreadnaught might be a good catch. Something out of the Star Trek Technical Manual :D

179. Admiral Waugh - March 7, 2009

The ONLY thing I hate about this movie is how the mainstream press is trying to appropriate it now that they have decided it is cool. It has always been cool and ground-breaking, just for different generations. Shatner did much more than “strut.” His first season work was outstanding. His performance in Star Trek II the stuff of legend. This is the history of the future — and it’s amazing.

180. NCC-73515 - March 7, 2009

Glad you thank me. My pleasure :D

181. captain_neill - March 7, 2009

It is the best trailer I saw.

To me the new movie will never be canon to me and I will treat it as a separate entity from the rest of the Star Trek that I love.

I hope it honours Trek and I hope we get a great movie.

The trailer confirms that this is not our Star Trek.

I no longer feel that JJ Abrams is raping my childhood, I am at a stage now that he has changed too much, that if I ove the film then happy days but if I hate his film then I still got every past episode and movie to relive.

I believe in May it will be the former and I will start to praise JJ Abrams rather than seeing him as this monster who is ruining my favourite show.

I am more excited about the movie now and trying my best to keep an open mind.

Ignoring it from canon is one way I can accept the changes. I will scream if Kirk goes from cadet to captain

182. Jcordova - March 7, 2009

It was a great trailer…

However, if you went to see Watchmen in IMAX, it did not have the trailer because of a couple of reasons…

1) Paramount did not release the trailer in IMAX
and
2) Their was not enough room for any trailers.

At the theatre I manage we did not even have enough room for the Harry Potter trailer. Watchmen came right up to the edge of the film platter.

183. Stiff Necked Thistlehead - March 7, 2009

After seeing just a few seconds of footage in the trailers…Karl Urban should be nominated for an Oscar for his portrayal of McCoy! There… I said it!!! It’s just so sad that Mr. Kelley isn’t around to see it.

184. CCT - March 7, 2009

Here is the spanish (from Spain) dubbed version -> http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/03/06/videos/1236335141.html

185. Jefferies Tuber - March 7, 2009

I get a little misty when Nero says the “great man” line.

I think we’re actually getting emotional over Shatner. It’s like getting emotional about your ex when you meet a new person… because now you know it’s really over.

186. G - March 7, 2009

My friend was anti-Trek all the way, until I showed him the first trailer. He said it was decent.

When I showed him the second trailer, he said, “Fine, you’ve convinced me.” He was particularly moved by the scene where Kirk sits on the captain’s chair.

187. RD - March 7, 2009

“Crying Trekkies?”

OH BROTHER! Who wrote this drivel and HOW MUCH IS PARAMOUNT PAYING YOU to do it?

By the way, I far prefer the “booties” Kirk ran around in, versus what appears to be galoshes that Pine is wearing. It looks like he just came in from shoveling snow.

Did you notice most of the reviewers used the “R” word? REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT!

188. Josh - March 7, 2009

187 –

“By the way, I far prefer the “booties” Kirk ran around in, versus what appears to be galoshes that Pine is wearing. It looks like he just came in from shoveling snow.”

Well, he DOES have a scene on a snow planet in the movie…

“Did you notice most of the reviewers used the “R” word? REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT!”

Yeah, and? Just because some reviewers who probably know even less about the movie than we do say so, then it is so?

189. Capt. of the USS Anduril - March 7, 2009

Kirk goes from cadet to ACTING Captain. Remember, previous articles have told us that Pike makes Kirk temporary 1st Officer when Pike goes to Nero’s ship. Spock apparently is removed from command, so unless Starfleet tells Kirk to get his sweaty ass out of that chair, he is well within regulations to assume temporary command of the Enterprise, especially in a crisis.

190. Rick - March 7, 2009

JJ Abrams said they couldn’t include Shatner in this movie because his character died in Generations. But if this movie is supposed to be set in another timeline, couldn’t the old Kirk be still alive?

191. RAMA - March 7, 2009

#86 I laughed at your list, its a bit skewed with highly selective thinking. It eliminates the premiere of the first STNG movie which also had TOS cast in it in 1994, the premiere of Voyager which had huge ratings in 1995, the premiere of Enterprise in 2001, an unprecedented 5th spinoff show.

192. Andy Patterson - March 7, 2009

“Yeah we do”

“I think the statement speaks for itself. Leo Farnsworth intends to quarterback the Los Angeles Rams”

193. JimJ - March 7, 2009

#187-Sorry, dude, it’s all my fault!!! LOL

194. EM - March 7, 2009

I don’t get all the people here who seem to think tha Star Trek is only what was made in the sixties and some alright movies. I grew up with and love Star Trek. When I picture it in my mind, this movie is what I see. When I see it on television, I usually change the channel. Dog The Bounty Hunter is on somewhere. This movie will be incredible. Get over canon, people.

195. RAMA - March 7, 2009

Get over it #50. There’s enough room in the collective brain space for a variation or retelling of this huge, classic franchise for most of fandom here…but I guess there just isn’t room in yours.

196. RAMA - March 7, 2009

Its nice to see mostly positive comments about ST again. Its been 10+ years since I’ve seen that.

197. PerhapsPerhapsPerhaps - March 7, 2009

Great trailer, expecting nothing less than a great movie from JJ and the crew. Perhaps a bit of me will enjoy the nerdy fanboys who obsess over random aspects of canon (instead of, you know, getting a date) eating their words

I will say, however, this is a movie – and if the trailer to a fictional movie brings you to tears… um, seek professional counseling.

198. NCC-73515 - March 7, 2009

Ship model pictures:
http://www.quantummechanix.com/Star_Trek_Gallery.html

199. Chris Doohan - March 7, 2009

It seems like you’re winning the hearts of many, Bob. It was only a matter of time.

Chris

PS Just saw Watchmen, no Star Trek trailer. :(

200. ster julie - March 7, 2009

Um, I was wondering about the mukluks Pine wears on the bridge, too. They look like black Uggs to me. And the guy to his left is wearing the big ol’ shoes, too, but not the two folks behind them.

But I swear, that is my ONLY problem with the trailer. Looooooooved it!

201. MistySteele - March 7, 2009

Just got back from Watchmen (which was awesome, by the way) and they *did* show a Star Trek trailer in front of it, only it was the first one. Needless to say, I was disappointed. However, even on the small screen, it looks amazing. I cannot wait for this movie. I did have one problem with the trailer though… I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but the line “the question is, which path will you choose” was REALLY badly spliced. It sounded more like “the question y- is”. Other than that though, really great.

202. harris250 - March 7, 2009

#39 Boborci

“Hug?”

How droll….lol

203. RMT - March 7, 2009

Wow…. This Trek is so sexy, I could have sex with it!

204. Robman007 - March 7, 2009

Such a powerful trailer. Trailers rarely have the impact on me that this one did.

I was bummed in a way. I saw Watchmen in the IMAX, and they used the 2nd trailer for the IMAX theaters. Major rip! Oh well, that even looked amazing on the IMAX.

On a seperate note…the manager of the theaters came in to thank everyone for helping Watchmen IMAX sell out, and also gave us the low-down on the upcoming IMAX movies. The theater went ballistic with cheers when he mentioned the may release of Star Trek. Good omen?

I think so.

Thanks a million, Bob Orci, and also to the rest of the cast/crew.

205. The Cowman - March 7, 2009

Was dissapointed to find no Trek Trailer in front of The Watchmen in Pickerington Ohio… I even complained to the manager after the show, but got little sympathy!

206. Poizen_Prince - March 7, 2009

Regards the massive frak-off saucer (half) in the debris field, is it just me, or does it look uncannily like the Kelvin’s primary hull?

Here’re the facts:

We know that George Kirk saves 800 people.
We know that Jim Kirk is (apparently) being born as the Kelvin is fighting the Narada.
We know that in the prime timeline Jim Kirk would’ve been on Tarsus IV when he was 13, but in this timeline he is driving chevvies off cliffs in Riverside.
(As far as I’m aware) We don’t know for sure how big the Kelvin was – everyone seems to assume that its saucer was only one or two decks thick at the rim, making the ship smaller than the Enterprise, but see below:
We see what appears to be the other half of the huge saucer as the Enterprise flies by (with it’s belly towards us) – the internal structure makes it appear to be four decks thick at the rim, rather than two & we can see part of the name – which looks to me like the right-hand part of an ‘F’ followed by LOWE & then it is cut-off by another battle scar.

Here’s my theory…

The Kelvin was of the same class as the ship in the debris field (which I’m guessing was the U.S.S. MAYFLOWER – to fit the ‘[F?]LOWE’ on the hull) and they were both a type of federation colony ship, a huge beast of a thing over a kilometre long, carrying crew & passengers totaling around 800 to Tarsus IV to establish a new colony there.

This is in agreement with the theory that the destruction of the Kelvin, a virtually defenceless ship on an undeniable mission of peace leads to the increased militarisation of starfleet we see in the new timeline.

The only ‘canon-busting’ element of all this is that this shows that Jim Kirk was not (as he told Dr Taylor in ST4:TVH) “born in Iowa”, but was in fact “from outer space”, having been born on the Kelvin (or possibly in a shuttlecraft in this new timeline).

Also, the reason why this Kirk can drive (or, rather, why the original couldn’t) is that he was raised in Iowa, with his uncle’s antiquated auto on hand, rather than on Tarsus IV, dodging Kodos’s death-squads…

207. Ozwitch - March 7, 2009

I saw this trailer #3 in Melbourne yesterday in front of Watchmen. It’s the trailer version where Uhura says “I hope you know what you’re doing” so I presume that is an international version.

Anyway it was on the Xtremescreen and it just floored me and everybody else waiting for Watchmen. Cinema about half full everybody just stopped eating their popcorn and shut up. Great buzz. Very well received and just the right audience too.

I’m 50 years old and have been a Trek fan since the original series when I was 10. I’ve watched every episode and film. This one has me REALLY excited. I don’t give a hoot about which actor is playing it or what they have done with the ‘old’ canon. I always loved the idea of ST the most, regardless of the players, and if the film is faithful and respectful to the essence of Trek then they can play around with timelines and plot details as much as they bloody like. Looks like they have a great start. Let’s hope the film is as good.

208. Mel - March 7, 2009

I have seen Watchmen in Germany on Saturday and the new Star Trek Trailer was shown directly before the film ;-)

209. Turbolift - March 7, 2009

I understand the point of view of the purists…to a point. They have two choices, continue to hate the fact that this is not and never will be a Star Trek 1-6 movie with associated actors and directors, or embrace that this is a film that has the potential to present Star Trek to the faithful and a whole new audience in a whole new perspective for years to come. If you don’t have faith in J.J. Abrams…shame on you. If you don’t have faith in Leonard Nimoy and his faith in the script…shame on you. J.J. will spend 150 million dollars wisely. If he chooses someone for a role…the are right for the role. Same goes for music, special effects, etc. I have been watching Trek for 40 years and in all honesty, as much as I have loved the various incarnations of Trek (even Enterprise) I have been waiting for this forever…someone to give Trek the cinematic treatment it deserves. I’m excited and will go the first day, and have made many friend doubters believers. This film will make at least 300 million…and Bob O., JJ and others probably know this now, and are very happy. Congratulations all…keep them coming :)

210. Josh - March 7, 2009

206 – Do you think it’s possible that Kirk was born in Iowa, then basically went into space with his parents on the ship immediately after? Not having him being born in Iowa seems to be a major change of the established history of the character, and not one which was apparently changed by the arrival of Nero.

As for the Tarsus IV stuff, I still presume that’s possible. Maybe the events with the car were from immediately after Kirk returned from there? Who knows. I mean, heck, witnessing a massacre is bound to do stuff to someone, possibly helping Kirk have a rough childhood too. Of course, we don’t see anything about that in the movies, and I doubt even if we hear about it, it’ll be by anything other than something in passing or a footnote.

Of course, an alternate explanation is that Kirk was lied to by his parents, who told him he was born in Iowa :D

We’ll have to wait for the movie to know for sure, of course.

211. Turbolift - March 7, 2009

Ps. I haven’t seen a movie twice in the theater for over 25 years. If this is as good I believe it is, I see going two or three times. If there are others like me,and I’m sure there are, this bodes well for the movie. Plus, here I come, Bluray :)

212. AJ - March 7, 2009

I think, as fans dislocated by the Nemesis-to-Enterprise decline of the series, we may have underestimated the recall of “normal people” of the Original Series.

The mainstream articles up top are showing a great deal of anticipation for this film, partly thanks to the best trailer since “Iron Man.” Better, in fact, by far.

JJ and Co. now have a tiger in their tank, and I hope they continue to surpass themselves with the way STAR TREK is re-introduced to the masses.

213. Xai - March 7, 2009

#206

Your quote is wrong. He’s “from Iowa” not “born in”.

If I was born in space I’d still consider myself from Iowa

214. THE NACELLES ARE NOW UNCIRCUMCISED.... - March 7, 2009

This trailer absolutely rocks. I don’t care if you are a past fan or not.
I dare someone to argue that point…….

215. Xai - March 7, 2009

50. The Real Star Trek is over with – March 7, 2009

“Superficial Idiots……”

Please don’t show off your IQ by insulting others.

216. Poizen_Prince - March 7, 2009

“Do you think it’s possible that Kirk was born in Iowa, then basically went into space with his parents on the ship immediately after?”
Maybe, but it sure as hell looks like he’s being born in the midst of the battle between the Kelvin & the Narada.

“Not having him being born in Iowa seems to be a major change of the established history of the character, and not one which was apparently changed by the arrival of Nero.”
I think it’s been stated that there is one canon-violating event right at the beginning of the movie which isn’t down to Nero’s fiddling with the timeline (“Nero fiddles while Romulus burns”, very droll…), but rather an artistic choice on the part of the writers – the rest is down to ol’ tatt-face’s machinations.

“As for the Tarsus IV stuff, I still presume that’s possible. Maybe the events with the car were from immediately after Kirk returned from there?”
I think that the implication is that in the original timeline it was helping people survive the horror of Kodos’s executions, and the subsequent arrival of the Starfleet rescue teams on Tarsus IV (coupled with his father’s influence) that lead our young Jim Kirk to sign-up as soon as he was able (presumably at age 16) and so end-up as the youngest captain. It is his never having been on Tarsus as well as never having had his father’s influence that lead him to become a rebel without a cause.

This Jim Kirk has never had anything meaningful to strive for. Nothing to battle against, aside from the war of attrition between him & his uncle, swapping insults and other acts of petty spite.

It is only Chris Pike meeting him & goading him into joining Starfleet by evoking the memory of a father he never new that allows him to eventually catch-up with his manifest destiny.

That is what this film represents. It is the American dream in vivid Technicolor. Jim Kirk is the ultimate personification of all American hope & doubt in a world where everything we thought we knew has been torn from under us by the actions of jealously embittered & zealous men of terror who have only one desire – the total & irrevocable destruction of all we have achieved, all we can achieve, all we MUST achieve, if the seeds of our dreams that we now sow are to grow strong & fruitful in our children’s futures. We can still all attain everything we desire – so long as that spark of human endeavor lives on in even a single man’s soul, the dream shall never be done – but we must first regain belief in ourselves & recapture our destiny from the cold grasp of unfounded hopelessness & fearful despair.

As bleak as the present my seem, all is not lost – the future is our new frontier, one that holds limitless bounties for us all, so long as we can all conquer the weaknesses we have been mislead by cowardly men into believing we bear, and learn that we are stronger together than apart – then the human adventure will truly begin, for us all…

God bless…

217. Josh - March 7, 2009

213 – now you’re going to make me stick in Star Trek IV just so I can see that line to confirm that lol, but now that you mention it, I do think it was “from Iowa” which most people just assumed meant “born in” but yeah, it doesn’t have to be.

218. Josh - March 7, 2009

I just noticed this amazingly, but a clip from the Super Bowl trailer and the shot of the platform actually firing on the planet in this trailer makes clear that Earth gets attacked as well. I wonder when this happens? It’s clear that Kirk and Sulu jump onto the platform over Vulcan, which makes me think that that’s part of the movie’s climax.

Think that after his attack on Vulcan possibly failed, Nero decided to take a crack at Earth, or perhaps the attack on Earth is the battle in which the Kelvin was destroyed? It may explain why the Enterprise apparently wasn’t built in San Francisco as well, considering that’s where Nero attacked.

219. Poizen_Prince - March 7, 2009

Btw, my message @ 216 was a reply to you, Josh @ 210.

I forgot to put that at the beginning of the message…

220. Xai - March 7, 2009

#216 Poizen,
please read 213.

221. Josh - March 7, 2009

219 – I figured as much lol

222. USS TRINOMA - NCC-0278 - March 7, 2009

This is THE MOTHER of all Trailers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!!

223. Poizen_Prince - March 7, 2009

220 – Xai, it’s quater-to-five in the morning where I am & it’s been quite while since I saw that film, but you’re right it is:
“No, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space.”

However, I’m pretty sure that it’s still considered ‘canon’ that he was also *born* there. So it would still be a break with the established canon to have him born aboard the Kelvin…

224. Josh - March 7, 2009

223 – as far as I know, the only things considered truly “canon” are things seen or heard on screen, and as far as I’m aware, it’s never been said on screen that he’s actually been BORN in Iowa, in which case, they could fudge it without technically messing up canon.

225. John Sullivan - March 7, 2009

What is “The Watchmen?” The people who watch movies? But when I see more stills from this site I am starting to realize that this Bridge is the Pato Guzman design from series preproduction – the one that Matt Jefferies didn’t build because it was too large and expensive. The original art sold of the never seen Bridge (until now) at auction for about $20,000, which is a lot for one drawing, so maybe these producers bought it. Doesn’t mean I like it, but there are more similarities to the previosly unused 1964 Pato design than what ended up on Star Trek the series. Pato, who had to go back to Santiago (Green card issues?) was only 30 when he designed the Bridge and his attempts to design other (non-Enterprise) parts of “The Cage” were more successful. I can appreciate the comments from those who like Battlestar Galacticia, Lost in Space, and the others remade, but Star Trek is and never has been just another one of those. As for Guzman, he was broubht in because he was a friend of Desi as in the one in Desilu. He died in 1991 at a young 57 in his native Chile and credited or not it looks like he’s finally getting his big break – not that the many movies he’s worked on since haven’t been big enough. Again, my biggest complaint is, why do people have to reinvent existing franchises? Why not go make one of their own? How would JJ feel if a bunch of outsiders came up with Gilligan’s Island II and called it LOST?

226. Robert H. - March 7, 2009

Oh let’s just say this movie will have absolutely no competition this summer, and will be the next Dark Knight.

227. Gigastazio - March 7, 2009

Bob Orci:

I was thinking the same thing as #51. My dad took me to see TMP back in the day – I was about 6. I remember that the scene with the transporter malfunction gave me the heebie jeebies, but the rest of it was fine. So, I called in my boy, who’s 5, to see the trailer, and he asked to watch it, like, six or seven times (which I did gleefully). He finally said, “Dad, when this comes out I want you to take me.” I’ve never been so proud of my boy! *sniff* He and I regularly watch Stargate SG1 together, so I’m thinking if he can stomach that, this should be fine…you agree?

Of course, it’s ultimately up to my wife, not you, as to whether or not he’ll actually be allowed to go. :)

228. Chris J - March 7, 2009

In the trailer I saw in the cinema before Watchmen, it had Kirk in the captains chair and Uhura saying “I hope you know what you’re doing.”, and he replies “So do I.”

For me, this is very important in the whole “Cadet to Captain” row. He has taken command, yet he is still unsure and so is everyone else. Pretty much vindicates why he has taken the chair in the first place I think, and should have been on all the trailers.

229. AJ - March 7, 2009

NBC will run a “sneak preview” of Quinto’s performance in STAR TREK during the next “Heroes” broadcast.

230. Rick - March 7, 2009

Off Topic:
Roberto Orci is italian? The name certainly is

231. Requiem1971 - March 7, 2009

Damn…. WOW…. I watched that 2nd trailer four times. That is awsome. I am SO there when this hits the theater.

232. May, get here faster! - March 7, 2009

229: I’ve never watched Hero’s, but I will be watching this time.

233. May, get here faster! - March 7, 2009

#226: Oh man, I sure hope so!

234. Don Farnsworth - March 7, 2009

63. The Real Star Trek is over with – March 7, 2009
55? …SORRY IF THE TRUTH HURTS

Well lets go with the truth then. You are a troll too spineless to use your real name. Saying stuff for no real reason other than to be rude and get others backs up.

No doubt you sit there squealing with glee like a little girl wetting your knickers with excitement anytime someone responds to you.

If you don’t think the movie needed a reboot why are you even here? Your Trek art is in video stores.

235. Sarah Stroud - March 7, 2009

234: Don’t give him the satisfaction of a response. It’s what he’s looking for. Ignore him, and he’ll eventually go away.

236. tuvok47 - March 7, 2009

I just watched the 3rd trailer again on the Apple site. Did I imagine a scene where Kirk is in the big chair and Uhura says “i hope you know what you’re doing!” I didn’t see it when I just watched it.

237. Gabriel Bell - March 7, 2009

199. Scotty, Jr. (may I call you Scotty, Jr.?), I think you are in Los Angeles. What theatre did you go to? I will need to AVOID that one tomorrow when I hit “Watchmen.”

238. Mr. AtoZ - March 7, 2009

#236 tuvok47

Yes I thought the samething, it was on the Youtube one b4 they posted the HD trailer. Now I can’t find it.

239. Shat Hands - March 7, 2009

I can’t stop watching the trailer and I am so certain that this film is going to make me happy.

I love how intense Nero is when speaking about Kirk.

Could he be a better baddie than Khan?

240. The Governator - March 7, 2009

Well, I just took some friends and went to the theater to see Watchmen. Walked in right as they started to play the trailer. Only seats left were smack dab in front. TERRIBLE seats!!! Oh well. Anyway we sat down immediately at my request and as soon as Pike said starship, one of my friends was like, “Are you kiddin’ me? Star Trek? No way I’m seeing that s**t.” So, then the trailer continues, and I can tell that by the end, he wished he could take back what he had said. He was blown away. He’s a hard ass, so for him to admit he’d want to go see Star Trek would be an insult to his character, and that’s part of why I had him come, just to see if he would actually be convinced. I got the feeling that he was, at least a little bit. As for the rest of the theater, I heard a lot of positive chatter once the trailer ended.

As for Watchmen, I thought it was just plain weird. The whole plot, orchestration, themes, it was all just plain odd. The whole Rorschach death at the end was completely pointless, and seeing a blue dick every five minutes was unnecessary. Plot wise, it is far from flawless. I talked to my friends after the theater, and their consensus was pretty much the same. To quote one, “that went totally over my head”. In short, it was a super-long, confusing snoozefest.

241. BrF - March 7, 2009

Great trailer.

Now — is that Spock’s time travel ship that hits Nero’s ship and explodes at 1:20? What does this augur for “old Spock”?

242. Chris Basken - March 7, 2009

240: “As for Watchmen, I thought it was just plain weird. The whole plot, orchestration, themes, it was all just plain odd. The whole Rorschach death at the end was completely pointless, and seeing a blue dick every five minutes was unnecessary. Plot wise, it is far from flawless. I talked to my friends after the theater, and their consensus was pretty much the same. To quote one, “that went totally over my head”. In short, it was a super-long, confusing snoozefest.”

Well, I’m glad you took the time to warn people about SPOILERS!

243. Alex Rosenzweig - March 7, 2009

#206 – “Also, the reason why this Kirk can drive (or, rather, why the original couldn’t) is that he was raised in Iowa, with his uncle’s antiquated auto on hand, rather than on Tarsus IV, dodging Kodos’s death-squads…”

Actually, depending on exactly how old Kirk is when he drives his uncle’s car off the cliff, my thought was that in response, he’s packed off to Tarsus IV. Y’know, the way some kids are sent off to boarding school or whatever when their parents feel it’s necessary?

That could fit fairly well with the stuff we know of Kirk’s history.

#223 – “However, I’m pretty sure that it’s still considered ‘canon’ that he was also *born* there. So it would still be a break with the established canon to have him born aboard the Kelvin…”

Maybe, maybe not. Canonically, it’s never been said where he was born. His family could still be from Iowa, and it just so happens that he was actually born in space, but then he and his mom returned to Iowa after the death of his father. That’d still fit in.

#225 – “Again, my biggest complaint is, why do people have to reinvent existing franchises? Why not go make one of their own?”

This is something I agree with, too, though the “why” is fairly understandable. Interestingly, Mr. Abrams said something in a similar vein a month or two back.

#234 – “If you don’t think the movie needed a reboot why are you even here? Your Trek art is in video stores.”

I’m not The Real Star Trek is over with, and I do use my real name. But I don’t think Star Trek needed a reboot at all, and I’m here because I love Star Trek. Perhaps he (she?) is, too.

#198 – “Ship model pictures:”

Slick! Hmm… I just noticed… No window on the bridge dome. Maybe the viewer really is just a viewer, after all. ;)

244. Kirk's Revenge - March 7, 2009

240

I had the same feeling about Watchmen. In fact, I walked out when the story moved to Antarctica, with Ozzy pontificating like a drunken English lit major. Overall, the movie was too violent, too gory, and too flashy for my tastes.

A little nuance can go a long way.

245. McCoy's Gall Bladder - March 7, 2009

Chris, the Watchmen comic has existed for 20+ years.

That’s like spoiling Alice in Wonderland

Do you really not know about the Red Queen and “off with her head” ?

246. Dyson Sphere - March 7, 2009

I wish I had the TNG library to make a TNG version of the new trailer – could work well with 10-Forward being the bar, etc.

247. Dyson Sphere - March 8, 2009

Ok, I take that back – Quark’s bar

248. Kroll - March 8, 2009

Watchemen was awesome, but they showed the OLD trailer, what a jip! I’m in the UK wonder if that has anything to do with it.

249. Chris M - March 8, 2009

Just got back from seeing Watchmen and of course the new Star Trek trailer on the big screen. And I can tell you that it looks AMAZING on the big screen! Gave me goose bumps when James T Kirk sat in the Captains chair for the first time!

One thing I noticed though was at the end of the trailer it had the older Star Trek logo rather than the newer one. Anyone know why here in Australia the logo was different? Just curious.

250. Chasco - March 8, 2009

#209
Part of the problem for the ‘purists’ as you call them is that we were, effectively, lied to – and are still being lied to. “This is not a reboot”, “This is the story of how the crew got together” – these lines are STILL coming out of the mouths of some of the people involved in this movie, when it clearly IS a reboot, and is the story of how a completely different bunch of people in a different universe got together (who happen to share the same names as the characters we love) .
If the writers had just admitted that from the get-go, there wouldn’t be these feelings of betrayal – we’d have known that they were going to trash Trek’s history, and would have had time to mull it over and get used to it.
Instead, we’ve got the Uglyprise, a Cadet taking command of it (which is stupid writing in ANY universe), and a film that is going to leave people who know their Trek going “Yeah, but…”

251. Sxottlan - March 8, 2009

I haven’t read every single comment over the last couple days, but has it been confirmed that the music in the trailer is actual music from the film?

If so, that’s great news because it’s phenomenal music.

252. Ensign Ro- (short for Roland) - March 8, 2009

I welcome you all to check out my GoAnimate version of the latest Star Trek movie trailer…enjoy.
http://goanimate.com/go/movie/0co4ZJTsHDgY/1

253. King Of All Blacks - March 8, 2009

LOVE IT!!!!!!

the music in the trailer was really excellent with the scenes the cues went with! when Kirk sat in the chair and when Mrs. Kirk is giving birth, the cue reminded me of the score from The Dark Knight’. LOVE IT!

“Fire everything!!”

I hope no one from the later TREK series was on that planet!

They’re really keeping Old-Spock under wraps now!

254. King Of All Blacks - March 8, 2009

question: is that Spocks timeship that crashes into the Narada at 1:28 in the trailer??

255. AJ - March 8, 2009

Regarding Kirk being a “cadet” when he takes command, he clearly was in the same class at the academy as McCoy and Sulu. As he takes command, McCoy and Sulu both have rank stripes on their sleeves.

We also know that Kirk was not ‘picked’ to serve on the Enterprise, and “fakes” an illness so that Bones has no choice but to bring him to sickbay.

While the ENT officers, his classmates, were busy earning those stripes, Kirk must have been doing something. Perhaps he has a Lt. Commander rank without assignment to a ship. Perhaps, like Spock, he became an instructor at the Academy (nod to canon).

256. T - March 8, 2009

JJ did it. it’s got a spell on us. I seen this trailer the other day, and for the first time was Excited about this movie and yes i even shed some tears of joy as lame as that sounds. I hope the full movie is not a let down.

257. Xai - March 8, 2009

223. Poizen_Prince – March 7, 2009
“220 – Xai, it’s quater-to-five in the morning where I am & it’s been quite while since I saw that film, but you’re right it is:
“No, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space.”

However, I’m pretty sure that it’s still considered ‘canon’ that he was also *born* there. So it would still be a break with the established canon to have him born aboard the Kelvin…”

_ Sorry, I still disagree. If I am born in a car in Nebraska (God forbid) and then I and my parents go back home to Iowa (like he does) I am still from Iowa.

258. commander K, - March 8, 2009

*****TRAILER MUSIC UPDATE****** as most of you know its Freedom Fighters by Two Steps from Hell…here’s an update on the track by the composer…

There has been a lot of interest in the Freedom Fighters music in the new Star Trek trailer (thanks!) so here’s some more information for you. The executives at Paramount studios ultimately had the final say in what music was used for the trailer. They ended up liking the music so much they wanted exclusive rights to use it (to avoid us from licensing it to other advertisement campaigns). This does however not mean that the music cannot be published on CD, and we’ll likely include the modified version on one of our future public releases.

Make sure you catch the trailer at your local theatre, as the surround sound mixing is EPIC!

Best,

Thomas J. Bergersen

259. The Quickening - March 8, 2009

41, 209,, 212, 226
Really glad to see fans happy and giddy with anticipation for the film–thanks to the recent trailer. However, do you really think the mass audience can be won over so easily? I’ve enjoyed all the trailers, but I believe it is going to take more than what I have seen to undo the negative perception left by nine low-ball movies over a period of 20 years, plus the stigma of Trekkies and the nerd factor. I hope it happens, but I don’t see it… so far. Maybe a success equaled to, say, THE DARK KNIGHT could possibly do it, IMO, and that is feasible. As of now, I’m looking at a possible domestic gross of 150 to 200 million, and as usual, very poor B.O. from international markets.

260. Poizen_Prince - March 8, 2009

@ 257. Xai – March 8, 2009

“223. Poizen_Prince – March 7, 2009
“220 – Xai, it’s quater-to-five in the morning where I am & it’s been quite while since I saw that film, but you’re right it is:
“No, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space.”

However, I’m pretty sure that it’s still considered ‘canon’ that he was also *born* there. So it would still be a break with the established canon to have him born aboard the Kelvin…”

_Sorry, I still disagree. If I am born in a car in Nebraska (God forbid) and then I and my parents go back home to Iowa (like he does) I am still from Iowa.”

The Star Trek Encyclopaedia, Memory-Alpha.org, & StarTrek.com all list Jim Kirk’s place of birth as Iowa (or, more specifically, Riverside), so his having been born aboard the Kelvin would be a break with the established canon.

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262. Scott Gammans - March 8, 2009

Trekkie-brand Kleenex! Me like!

I think I’ve watched this trailer about 20 times already. Hurry up, May 8!

263. Xai - March 8, 2009

#260 Poizen

but the basis of your original statement misquoted the line from ST4. “from” and “born in” are not the same thing in all cases.

we can go around and round on this and I still don’t see this as a difference or a canon-buster.
I (literally) am in Iowa. Had I been born aboard a ship in the Pacific while my parents were on a cruise, Iowa is where I am from, not the Pacific at some lat and long, nor the USS Love Boat.

264. Gen - March 8, 2009

No trailer here in ireland that i saw. have to make due with net.

265. Alex Rosenzweig - March 8, 2009

#260 – “The Star Trek Encyclopaedia, Memory-Alpha.org, & StarTrek.com all list Jim Kirk’s place of birth as Iowa (or, more specifically, Riverside), so his having been born aboard the Kelvin would be a break with the established canon.”

None of those sources are themselves canonical. Granted, we have always *assumed* Kirk was actually born there, but that’s different from established canon itself.

Frankly, if that were to be this film’s biggest break with what’s been previously established, I’d be a happy fan indeed. ;) But…

266. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

Perhaps the time incursion attack on the Kelvin causes Mrs Kirk to go into labor prematurely while the ship is enroute to Earth.

267. Poizen_Prince - March 8, 2009

@ 263. Xai – March 8, 2009

“#260 Poizen

but the basis of your original statement misquoted the line from ST4. “from” and “born in” are not the same thing in all cases.

we can go around and round on this and I still don’t see this as a difference or a canon-buster.
I (literally) am in Iowa. Had I been born aboard a ship in the Pacific while my parents were on a cruise, Iowa is where I am from, not the Pacific at some lat and long, nor the USS Love Boat.”

Jeez…

You’re really not gonna let that mis-quote go, are you?

I already admitted that I got that wrong & corrected myself – but the point remains that, whatever Kirk’s exact words in ST4, all the reference materials indicate that his *place* of *birth* was Iowa. Exactly how he said what is irrelavent. If he is shown to be born aboard the Kelvin that will be un-canonical.

268. boborci - March 8, 2009

230. Rick – March 7, 2009
Off Topic:
Roberto Orci is italian? The name certainly is

Got a little Italian from my paternal grandfather.

269. boborci - March 8, 2009

227. Gigastazio – March 7, 2009
Bob Orci:

I was thinking the same thing as #51. My dad took me to see TMP back in the day – I was about 6. I remember that the scene with the transporter malfunction gave me the heebie jeebies, but the rest of it was fine. So, I called in my boy, who’s 5, to see the trailer, and he asked to watch it, like, six or seven times (which I did gleefully). He finally said, “Dad, when this comes out I want you to take me.” I’ve never been so proud of my boy! *sniff* He and I regularly watch Stargate SG1 together, so I’m thinking if he can stomach that, this should be fine…you agree?

Of course, it’s ultimately up to my wife, not you, as to whether or not he’ll actually be allowed to go. :)

HA — yes, I think it should be okay.

270. Harry Ballz - March 8, 2009

Bob

Are you, or your writing partner, buried in the crowd of cadets we see at Starfleet Academy?

271. boborci - March 8, 2009

199. Chris Doohan – March 7, 2009
It seems like you’re winning the hearts of many, Bob. It was only a matter of time.

Chris

PS Just saw Watchmen, no Star Trek trailer. :(

WHAT?!! AN OUTRAGE!

And since your in the movie, I think you should be saying “WE” are winning hearts and minds :)

272. the last real star trek fan - March 8, 2009

WHAT A FLOP MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is not star trek!

273. I'm a Believer - March 8, 2009

Since I was five years old, I have watched all the new shows, old reruns and movies. At the very start of this movie’s production, I have had my doubts and concerns. Now, I’m in this to the end. Star Trek has always been about making a diference, and this movie will remind people why we believe. Star Trek needed this badly.

274. I'm a Believer - March 8, 2009

I’m a Trekker!

275. Chris H - March 8, 2009

We UKers have the trailer with Watchmen (which is bloody wonderful too!).

I don’t think Kleenex will want to be associated with what many of us mid-40’s old-timers need a tissue for……………………. ;)

276. Xai - March 8, 2009

272. the last real star trek fan – March 8, 2009
WHAT A FLOP MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“this is not star trek!”

Come back when you have SEEN the movie. In the meantime, quit flaming.

277. Xai - March 8, 2009

267 Poizen

The only canon involved with Kirk being from Iowa is the line from ST4. The sources you cite are not canon. Check out 265 please.

278. Christine - March 8, 2009

Mwahahaha, they’re all being assimilated into our collective. }:3 JOO CANNOT RESIST TEH AWESOMENESS. -shot-

——————————–

“.. I might take to street corners and start preaching the gospel. Set phasers on testify!…”

Haha! Hey, maybe I can get away with the ‘Trek-inspired sermon I still need to ask my pastors if I can do… Hrm.. x3

——————————

“..If these kinds of emotional outbursts are going to be common, then Paramount and CBS may want to partner with Kleenex for a some (travel sized) Trek branded facial tissues for fans to bring with them to theaters in May. …”

You know that I’m going to bring a whole box with me to the theatre. There’s bound to be tears of joy and sobs of sadness (probably into my dad’s/friend’s/mom’s sleeve) on the day it comes out.
Heck, I started crying while watching “Contact” last night.

279. Mark - March 8, 2009

Poizen,

In the normal timeline, Kirk’s father’s ship is not attacked by Nero. He is then born in Iowa.

In the altered timeline, it is attacked and in the attack, apparently his mother goes into labor from the stress, and he is then born on the ship.

Issue is settled. “Canon” (how ridiculous we are still talking about this) is now changed, which allows for a number of other changes and what looks to be a pretty good movie.

It amazes me that people still want to debate this. The movie will be what it is and their is little we can do to change it. All we can do is like it or don’t like it. If you are determined not to like it, then that’s fine. Watch your TOS DVD’s and enjoy life. Let those of us willing to give it a change do just that, ok?

280. AJ - March 8, 2009

I seem to recall Iowa was mentioned for Kirk in “The Making of Star Trek” when the old TOS writers’ guide was reprinted there. I no longer own it, but that’s canon. TVH seals it.

281. Christine - March 8, 2009

#679 :: Um, actually, there’s absolutely nothing we can do to change the movie. It’s been made since… oh, the middle of last year? Or so? I think people just need to accept that, like everything else in Star Trek, this will not be 110% canonically… correct.

And you’ve got a pretty good explanation for all that. We’ll just see how it all works out in exactly 2 months, hmm? :3

282. Christine - March 8, 2009

(Crap, that should be “279”. Heh…)

283. I'm a Believer - March 8, 2009

Canon = TV Series and Movies only in my book. Novels, comics, and everything else don’t mater. Average Trekkers don’t care about the expanded universe of Star Trek.

I seriously don’t. If I go by what I know from the movies and tv series, this movie hasn’t changed a darn thing. If it does do something for me, it will expand what I know about Kirk’s background. Which is practically nothing. According to Star Trek IV, Kirk is originally from Iowa. Was he born there? Only this movie can answer that question.

284. I'm a Believer - March 8, 2009

Most of the audience doesn’t read Star Trek novels or comicbooks, so I would hold back all of those “THIS IS NOT CANON, AND THAT MATERS” statements. As long as it follows the already established canon from the tv series and movies, no one else is going to care about the expanded universe.

285. Christine - March 8, 2009

#283 :: “..Average Trekkers don’t care about the expanded universe of Star Trek. …”

Just wanted to say, that made me laugh. xD I must not be an average “Trekker”, as you said.

I don’t think the expanded universe can be completely discounted, however a lot of it’s certainly not in any way canon. Anyone read the Shatner-verse novels?! They violate canon on just about every page, but I still think they’re pretty gosh darn good.

286. OneBuckFilms - March 8, 2009

Live action TV and movies are Canon. Period.

Paramount takes that position, Roddenberry took that position, the producers of the shows took that position.

If anyone says this movie contradicts something established in any other source, the response is simply :That’s not Canon.

From what I’ve been told, there are some great things in many of the books, but they are NOT part of the official canon.

287. RDL - March 8, 2009

For whatever it”s worth…I am old enough to remember TOS when it first aired. My father was out of town but left me a note to watch this new sci-fi series and I fell for it from the first episode. Over the years I’ve enjoyed the films, and those series set in the 24th century…well two of them. I’ve also had the pleasure of interviewing and meeting several of the actors from TOS through TNG, and visiting sets at Paramout. I don’t dress up in Starfleet uniforms, I don’t speak Klingon, and I enjoy other forms of entertainment.

That said, to those zealots saying this film isn’t “real Star Trek,” I can only respond by saying…in a Sam Kinison delivery…IT’S A MOVIE!!! IT’S FICTION! THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS REAL STAR TREK!!!

If you want real, and I certainly do at times…read Stephen Hawking. Get Sagan’s Cosmos on DVD.

It’s a movie for crying out loud. If the story is good…if the writing is good, if the acting is good…if the effects live up to what we’ve seen so far…if it reminds me of how I felt at the age of 9 when I watched that first episode…if Pine and Quinto and the rest of the cast bring something new to the roles they are playing…if Nimoy makes me a little nostalgic…if that new version of the Enterprise conveys a little awe…if I get two hours of escape from a world and economy on the brink…if I want to tell family and friends to go see it…then Mr. Abrams, Mr. Orci and Mr. Kurtzman and everyone involved in the production, have done their jobs and then some.

If you are of the opinion that this reboot, re-imagining, or whatever re you want to call it, is inherently NOT REAL, you need only do two things. Don’t see it. And make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

288. Chris Doohan - March 8, 2009

271

Thanks, Bob, that’s very gracious of you. There would never had been a “we”, without “you”.

289. Poizen_Prince - March 8, 2009

@ 279. Mark – March 8, 2009

“…“Canon” (how ridiculous we are still talking about this) is now changed, which allows for a number of other changes and what looks to be a pretty good movie.

It amazes me that people still want to debate this. The movie will be what it is and their is little we can do to change it. All we can do is like it or don’t like it.”

I do so hate it when people don’t bother reading posts properly & jump to conclusions.

All I did was venture a theory about what the ‘canon-breaking’ event at the beginning of the movie – that I believe Bob Orci himself referred to a while back (was it you, Bob?) – might be.

Xai called me out on one small mistake in in a quote – which I admitted to – but would not leave it at that.

I’m not here for an argument, I was just tossing around a few ideas for peer review – not summary dismissal & destruction!

Regards the “If you are determined not to like it, then that’s fine. Watch your TOS DVD’s and enjoy life. Let those of us willing to give it a change do just that, ok?” remark:

1. Being a child of the late 80s/early 90s, I grew up on TNG & never really thought that much of TOS (I’ll watch it & I like the TOS movies, but I prefer the newer stuff) so the idea of re-imagining it & dismissing ’canon’ as necessary to do so doesn’t really bother me.

2. I don’t think I’ve ever been more enthusiastic about a movie (of any franchise, in any genre) than I am about this one! Please note my little speech @ 216:

“It is only Chris Pike meeting [Kirk] & goading him into joining Starfleet by evoking the memory of a father he never new that allows him to eventually catch-up with his manifest destiny.

That is what this film represents. It is the American dream in vivid Technicolor. Jim Kirk is the ultimate personification of all American hope & doubt in a world where everything we thought we knew has been torn from under us by the actions of jealously embittered & zealous men of terror who have only one desire – the total & irrevocable destruction of all we have achieved, all we can achieve, all we MUST achieve, if the seeds of our dreams that we now sow are to grow strong & fruitful in our children’s futures. We can still all attain everything we desire – so long as that spark of human endeavor lives on in even a single man’s soul, the dream shall never be done – but we must first regain belief in ourselves & recapture our destiny from the cold grasp of unfounded hopelessness & fearful despair.

As bleak as the present my seem, all is not lost – the future is our new frontier, one that holds limitless bounties for us all, so long as we can all conquer the weaknesses we have been mislead by cowardly men into believing we bear, and learn that we are stronger together than apart – then the human adventure will truly begin, for us all…”

And I’m not even American! I am a true-grit Brit, but I share what United-Statesians like to refer to as ‘The American Dream’ – which is, in fact, the dream of any and all free-thinking men everywhere.

Now, I’m frankly getting tired of all this pointless squabbling over what‘s ‘canon‘, so I (as the person who, so it seems, started it – albeit completely unintentionally) am calling an end to it before Anthony bans us all for trolling.

Debate closed.

…Peace/out

290. Stan Wingston - March 8, 2009

Nero sounds a little like Edgar the Bug from Men In Black. Especially on the James T. Kirk line…

291. Roger - March 8, 2009

I have to admit it, the new trailer won me over. I had been quite skeptical (nay, downright resistant) about this new movie, and when I saw the new Enterprise, I thought, “Damn it, JJ has gone and frakkin’ ruined Star Trek!” And James Kirk’s “Why are you talkin’ to me man?” made me hate him oh, so very much.

However, the new trailer? WOW. Screw my reservations about this movie. In May, 2009, I am going to be front and center to watch a new crop of actors take on iconic roles and I am going to enjoy it.

292. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

I took my son to see The Undiscovered Country when he was three. Not only did the Klingons in the lobby threaten to eat him, but I was horrified when the Klingon’s arm got shot off and floated away. I was like, “Shit! Nick Meyer strikes again!” But there was no permanent damage.

Now, me. I saw Night of the Living Dead at a drive-in when I was 5. There was some scarring there.

Boborci,

I got screwed twice. I went to Quantum of Solace and Watchmen. Nada!
Also, I checked on my local brighthouse cable’s movie trailers on demand. The “Revenge of the Fallen” trailer is there (it also ran before Watchmen), but no Star Trek. What gives?

293. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

Re 289 Poizen Prince

“debate closed”

That’s the funniest damn thing I’ve read all week.

294. Spock's Brain - March 8, 2009

69. Steve Short – March 7, 2009
With all we have seen in the Star Trek countdown books and Nero in the trailers could this movie have anything to do with “Balance of Terror” ? Could Nero be the son of the Romulan Commander and blames Kirk for his father’s dead in “Balance of Terror”?

295. Shatner_Fan_Prime - March 8, 2009

#69/294 … I highly doubt it. For one thing, it would mean Nero is over 100 years old. And the writers of the new movie aren’t likely to reference a TOS episode so directly, because the general audience won’t get it.

296. Xai - March 8, 2009

Poizen, you read a lot of emotion into my words. I wasn’t trying to “call you out”. Sorry bud.

Cool with me. Debate closed.

297. Spock's Brain - March 8, 2009

294 I meant to say that it would be sweet if that was true.

298. The Everlasting Spirit © - March 8, 2009

Its very interesting to see certain people who have expressed dislike for this movie being shot down by others. After all their viewpoint is very much as important as others. After all we are all equal and every persons individual opinion matter just as much as a vast majority.

I think many people comment on this site not to just hate or love marmite… i mean the movie! BUt because we all share a love of the incredible universe of star trek.

I have been reading this site for a long time now however this is my first comment. I personally am very worried about this ‘remake’. I believe it very much to be this as there are a significant amount of inconsistencies to make it this. ie: the shape of the enterprise changing, being built on earth, the iBridge, Vulcan imploding???.

Yes there may be alot of reviewers such as the above praising the efforts and even those that have been in Trek previously. However i seem to remember another franchise i have very much love for….. Superman. The new film Superman Returns, having the same hype, great reviews, and most of all a ‘modernisation’. It did ok in the box office, but did it touch the Chris Reeve movies, no! And was it believable as set after the events of Superman 2 as intended….. no! They tried to make it different, they changed the suit (suit=ship?). Overall it didnt leave me with passion and excitement of watching the original. Because it just wasn’t the same. I think this is what alot of the ‘haters’ or ‘whiners’ are feeling.

Maybe it is best not to fix something that isnt broken (ie: Superman Returns, Charlie & The Chocolate Factory, Star Trek TOS?) As often you never capture the magic the original bought and still can bring to many.

This said, i am only 22. Surely i should be gunning for this movie right?
When i was young was shown the Original Series by my dad. Ever since then i have loved Star Trek. Wether it be TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY….. and maybe ENT?

Truth is when they announce a new movie. Do i want them to re-invent something ‘to capture new viewers’ i have watched since very young and has been a part of my life…. no, of course i dont. Do i want them to capture new viewers by respecting what was already there and developing the future of the product by writing new stories (post voy ,etc)… of course i do. In a way that shows the old and the new and where both respect each other equally and allow each other to exist, in canon.
Maybe im a sad trekkie stuck in my ways, but id rather be that and stick to what i care about than changing my ways to suit what would make it ‘cooler’.

Anyway i will be seeing the movie, and penultimately i think there will be those in the Trek community that will reverse their opinions and wont get the fulfilment they might think they will, as many did with Superman. After all this is onl my opinion, no more right or wrong than anyone elses. I guess only after the film, after thoughts and a chance to review has happened.

Now im off to bed, to much looking on the internet and too much thinking.

Night All!

Ben

299. James Tiberius "my cabin in the Nexus hasn't depreciated" Kirk - March 8, 2009

Good thing you’re the *last* one…

>>>>>>>>>>

272. the last real star trek fan – March 8, 2009
WHAT A FLOP MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is not star trek!

300. Ryan Spooner - March 8, 2009

Just went to see Watchmen at my local Cinema here in the UK and was keeping my fingers crossed to see the new trailer in its big screen glory.

Boy was I disappointed. Not only was the new trailer not shown, but what was shown was the now-archaic teaser trailer. You know,.. the one with the welders building the big E. To top it all off, “Boxing Day 2008″ appeared at the end of the trailer.

Not exactly a glowing advertisement for the new Star Trek.
Can anyone actually do something about shit like that?

301. AJ - March 8, 2009

299:

In the future, do what has been advised here in the US: Ring your local cinema, and hope someone there can confirm that the new trailer will be played before the film.

302. SpocksINNERconflict - March 8, 2009

298- Considering your age, I’m left to assume you don’t remember the premier of TNG on television back in 87.
Though the situation is different, the fears and apprehensions, and even some of the specific complaints and worries (capturing the feel, the tone…I remember hearing: “This is not MY Star trek” a lot.) are all repeating now again.
I even remember reading a talk backer say “it’s 87 all over again.”

Taking a step back, it’s easy to see, this is all just a normal human reaction to change.

The reality is: no one is messing with your shows and movies.
And in my opinion, you should feel honored that your favorite characters are being sold to the public as LEGENDS, like Shakespeare, characters and stories that can be staged again and again,an opportunity to flesh out the themes and relationships further every time.

This film is clearly not shot as a Wiz-Pow, techno music filled, leather wearing, hip blood bath.

In regards to Superman returns, i’ve heard that comparison made already by weary trekkers and I’ll never understand the LOGIC of comparing the superficial similarities between these two films, when there’s hundreds of other films you could compare it to in film history. Folks seem to only remember resent events i suppose, but the truth is: Hollywood has been remaking films since the beginning (ten commandments, four feathers, robin hood, the wizard of oz, 20,000 leagues under the sea, Dracula, Frankenstein…all remade at least twice before the 1960’s)
I think you all just single out Superman returns because it failed, and is recent. But if we’re using determinism to judge unreleased films why not use the whole history of cinema, including the many successful attempts at re-telling a story.

303. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

Superman Returns gets high marks for its faithful recreation of the world of Donner’s 1978 classic. It failed, however, because it was bleak, overly long in duration and short on exciting action moments.

304. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

TNG was, by definition, expected to be different from TOS.
This movie was not. It may not be aesthetically exactly what I wanted, but I am prepared to go and enjoy the hell out of it.

305. Steve - March 8, 2009

236 and 238, I think that Uhura line ur talking about is in the UK trailer only?

Also, anyone noticed that at 1:26 in trailer 3, you can see the big E’s reg number on the bottom of the primary hull, but in the offical Paramount image of her on the web page etc, it’s missing.
Wonder if that means anything?
Yes, it prob means i shoulg get out more!

Anyway, AWESOME trailer, even my Mrs, who calls me a nerd for loving Trek, is looking forward to this film. And if you can make a Trek fan from her, you can prob make a humanitarian out of Robert Mugabe.

2 months to go and counting….let u know what I think after then Bob n co, but lookin’ very promising so far….

PS I lost some weight too!

306. New Horizon - March 8, 2009

302. Kirk’s Girdle – March 8, 2009
Superman Returns gets high marks for its faithful recreation of the world of Donner’s 1978 classic. It failed, however, because it was bleak, overly long in duration and short on exciting action moments.

I think that’s exactly why I LOVED Superman Returns. It was mature, and introspective….and despite recreating the donner world, felt quite in step with the times. It was definitely the Superman movie I needed at the time. My wife loved it too, as did a friend of mine who is a complete Superman fan.

A lot of people didn’t like it…they wanted a popcorn flick, but I’m glad it reached for more than that.

I think there is a very angry group who wanted this movie to be ‘more of the same’. Well, I’m really glad it’s looking to be something ‘similar..yet different’. After Trek 4, the Trek movies really stagnated.

307. Don Farnsworth - March 8, 2009

@300
They probably figure they have to do stupid stuff like that or you poms would have nothing to whine about. That wouldn’t be very british now would it.

(just kidding dude).

308. SpocksINNERconflict - March 8, 2009

306-I think there is a very angry group who wanted this movie to be ‘more of the same’. Well, I’m really glad it’s looking to be something ’similar..yet different’. After Trek 4, the Trek movies really stagnated.

Agree.

And i wasn’t dissing on Superman, I’m kinda indifferent, it’s just the constant lazy comparisons.

309. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

Re: 306 – You don’t go to a Superman flick for introspection. And there was really nothing new or earth-shattering in the script, it was just longer.
But if you like it, you can find it in the $5 bin at Wal Mart.

310. Kirk's Toupee - March 8, 2009

This is why the movie will fade fast, even if it’s the best Trek movie ever – the schedule of competing movies coming out right before and right after Trek Week:

May 1
# X-Men Origins: Wolverine
20th Century Fox

May 8
# Star Trek
Paramount
wide & IMAX

May 15
# Angels & Demons
Columbia

May 21
# Terminator Salvation
Warner Bros

May 22
# Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian
20th Century Fox
wide & IMAX

311. Kirk's Girdle - March 8, 2009

Well, it should go gangbusters the first week, then do solidly the second. These days, you can pull in over $100 million by Sunday.

312. Jesse - March 8, 2009

I’m impressed. I can’t help it. I’m still a bit disappointed by the design of the Enterprise, but honestly, I’m getting more and more excited about this movie. The comic helped quite a bit, because I like Data. It’s too bad he doesn’t go back in time along with Spock (so he could be in the movie).

313. Bramblett - March 8, 2009

305 –
The Enterprise is upside down in that shot, so you’re actually seeing the top of the saucer. if it was the bottom, the registry number would be turned the wrong way. IF there was a number on the other side, you’d be seeing an upside down NCC- instead of a right-side up 1701. Guess I’M the one who should get out more!

314. New Horizon - March 8, 2009

309. Kirk’s Girdle – March 8, 2009
Re: 306 – You don’t go to a Superman flick for introspection. And there was really nothing new or earth-shattering in the script, it was just longer.
But if you like it, you can find it in the $5 bin at Wal Mart.

Why can’t you go to a Superman movie for some introspection? That’s just proving my point right there…people just wanted more of the same regurgitated. I’m tired of brainless movies. There was plenty going on under the skin of Superman Returns…and saying you can find it in the $5 bin is hardly a reflection of how good or bad a movie is. Any movie will end up in the $5 bin eventually. While it faithfully recreated a lot of the Donner Superman, it did do its own thing as well. I’m not ashamed to say, I felt for the guy and really appreciated having my emotions challenged…as well as my visual and audio senses. If it had just been another ‘boom boom, bam bam’ type of superman move, I likely would have walked out and gotten my money back.

315. JimJ - March 8, 2009

Concerning the offical movie website’s music: if it is from our new Star Trek composer, the thought just occured-wouldn’t it be cool if that music was used as “prologue music” like that sweet suite Goldsmith wrote for TMP? I think I’d already have that “epic” feeling before the actual Paramount logo/Bad Robot popped up and the “actual theme” started playing (or the action began, whichever comes first)!!!!

316. AJ - March 8, 2009

I enjoyed “Superman Returns,” except I’ve had cinematic Lex Luthor overload.

Luthor, both in the 2 Donner films, and in SR, is simply a book-smart dolt surrounded by comic relief. After Gene Hackman devoured the role, it was right to bring in Kevin Spacey to reprise it. But why bring LL back in the first place?

317. JimJ - March 8, 2009

#316-Yes, I enjoyed it, too! Frankly, I think actress playing Lois was the worst casting move in the history of the Superman franchise. I thought Spacey was fantastic as Luthor, but to show just how bad the Lois actress was (and maybe the storyline written for her….I liked her snotty kid and boyfriend better than her!!! Sad!

318. Mister Man - March 8, 2009

Wow… late comer I am, I guess. =)

To answer something I saw further up… as the creator of a unique and new (as much as anything can be unique and new in storytelling) series – of which, I’m still trying to sell the first novel – I can tell you that there are so many roadblocks to getting that “new and shiny and previously unseen property” into the hands of the public isn’t easy.

I’ve also worked as a script adaptor, and having had the advantage of working on things that are already “complete” in some form or fashion, the dollars spent versus dollars made simply add up better.

Also, what is “true and canonical,” even Gene Roddenberry himself conceded – even before TMP was made – that there may be an avenue for Star Trek to be remade in some form or fashion with a new group of actors playing the same iconic characters. And hey, if The Great Bird of The Galaxy saw it coming, and even played to the side of advocacy for it, why worry about any reinterpretation?

Ultimately, the one thing that hasn’t been done with Star Trek in the movies, for fear of wrecking the “formula,” is doing a bona fide “hero’s journey” story. The “formula” has always been to use the characters for melodrama and never give them a large personal stake in the storytelling. Khan was the closest the Trek movie franchise came to telling the story of a protagonist and antagonist who walked the same path, only to diverge because of choices… but even then, those events were set into motion during an episode of the television series that people other than Star Trek fans might not have seen. If any of the trailers, but especially this one, is any indication of what we’re going to see it’s that the story is definitely about Kirk going from being reluctant and rebellious to seizing the reins of his full potential… and we’re all going to take this ride with him.

I, for one, am excited.

If anything, too much time spent on any other character with the exception of Spock (and there’s certainly a lot of Spock emphasis from what we’ve seen in the trailers) will de-focus the storytelling of this film in terms of character study. So, the magnificent seven are in place, but they’re not all going to get moments that develop them. Be prepared for that for the sake of keeping the story on course.

As far as any smack talk about Star Trek being “dead?” Hardly. I’m old enough to remember the doldrums of the 70’s, where the newest Trek stories were either the few novels (“Spock Must Die” and “Spock, Messiah!” anyone?), “Log” minibooks, and of course fan-generated short stories being parlayed in fanzines between the end of The Animated Series and the release of TMP. If anything, the fans will step into the breach and create their own stories. Just look at the fan film community that’s sprung up and flourished as Enterprise was on it’s way off the air. Before Jim Cawley got the rights to the undeveloped Phase II scripts, some of the original stories that were being done for ST: New Voyages were also really well done science fiction as well. “World Enough and Time” immediately comes to mind as something that wasn’t a Phase II story that was pulled off really well.

There’s too much positive buzz, even if a few folks don’t like what they’re seeing in terms of potential timeline or canonical violations, to think that it’s simply going to tank. It’s possible, as with all things, but I’m just not seeing it. And of course, that’s back in the realm of opinions.

My only concern is this: that if the first new Trek film by JJ really takes us on the Kirk hero’s journey, you certainly can’t do it for a sequel and make the character believeable. The only thing that kept the Luke Skywalker character believeable for me through the episode 4-6 trilogy is the fact that the story was turning slowly from having him as the story protagonist to a hero to his own father, who has to be turned back from the path he walked away from those many years ago.

Ultimately, you have 7 great characters that you can take on these journeys if you do it properly. However, there will be the temptation in any sequel to go back to the “formula,” which is to use the characters as heroes to a protagonist whom we don’t necessarily identify with that strongly because there will be the temptation as well to give the heroes moments… because they’re wearing the arrowhead thingies on their chests.

So, does any success for this film lead CBS-P into temptation and the accelerated film release schedules of year’s past where they’d trying to crank out a “unit” every 30 months? Hopefully, with what we’ve seen as the care and due diligence done with this film, that answer is “no,” and we can hope for thoughtful and thought provoking storytelling from the future of the franchise.

Peace,

GM

319. Databrain - March 9, 2009

I don’t like the way Kirk sounds when he says ‘yea we do’. It sounds dopey in my opinion, kind of hickish even. Sluggish. I would imagine Kirk as being sharper when he was younger, not more sluggish sounding.

320. Daoud - March 9, 2009

#319 He just had the crap beat out of him on the drilling platform, and just got beamed back at the last moment while free-falling with Sulu. He needs a few more seconds to recover, and the sluggishness is understandble. Context.

321. The Everlasting Spirit © - March 9, 2009

Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane – Casting mistake! Agreed!
Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor – Genius Move! Best ever.

Back to this universe – Why would a cadet be allowed to take control of a ship. This seems weird, even if it is Kirk. Surely there would be an objection based on the fact anyone else on tghat ship would have much much mroe experience to take control of the vessel?

Odd………

:)

322. falcon - March 9, 2009

You’ve got to be kidding. Nobody else has commented? Even after a page refresh?

Oh, well. AR’s mashup was incredibly good. This better not be a case where the trailer is better than the actual movie.

323. falcon - March 9, 2009

That was weird – no comments until I post, then 321 in front of it.

324. Poizen_Prince - March 9, 2009

@ 320. Daoud – March 9, 2009

I thought it was probably just after Jimmy’s got Spock dragged-off by the nice men in white coats, so the reason for his breathiness is that he’s still recovering from the after-effects of a vulcan smack-down…

325. AmmoGod - March 9, 2009

Hey Everyone,

I’m not sure if anyone here is really thinking about it, but with this altered timeline thing, there is no need to have the end of the movie fit nicely with the TOS timeline… it will all be subtly changed and open for an entirely different, yet in some ways very similar, timeline. What we hopefully will get is several new movies or shows that will reimagine some of our favorite episodes as well as add entirely new ones. The altered timeline premise and restart that occurs here actually frees all future incarnations of this crew and series from the events already in the current cannon.

Can we just imagine what a retelling of SPACE SEED would be like with Bad Robot? Or how about BALANCE OF TERROR, or even the TRIBLES? Or what about a revisit of the DOOMSDAY MACHINE?

And what if Pike dies in this film? That alone completely breaks this story from TOS… The reimagined possibilities are endless, and none of them would violate the original timeline because cannon will be REWRITTEN in a new way……… in this timeline nothing has yet happenned.

326. Trek Nerd Central - March 9, 2009

240, 244. I’m with youse guys. I didn’t like Watchmen at ALL.

327. Ryan Spooner - March 9, 2009

@ 307

How very dare you, I resemble that remark…. :-)

328. Kirk's Girdle - March 9, 2009

Re: New Horizon.

“Why can’t you go to a Superman movie for some introspection? That’s just proving my point right there…people just wanted more of the same regurgitated. I’m tired of brainless movies. There was plenty going on under the skin of Superman Returns…”

The introspection comment was more of a joke. I wasn’t asking for more of the same, and I have no problem with a compelling storyline. I’m glad you found the new film to be compelling and feel that there was something going on “under the skin”, I just didn’t feel it myself.
I also have no problem with a film that runs long, as long as the material merits it. I liked Singer’s X Men films, which somehow struck a good balance of action and drama despite having some of the goofiest heroes and villains in the cast. I also feel that there was more joy in 5 minutes of Christopher Reeve flying, and more raw emotion when he finds Lois dead in the original than there was in the entire 2 + hours of Superman Returns.

“and saying you can find it in the $5 bin is hardly a reflection of how good or bad a movie is. Any movie will end up in the $5 bin eventually.”

Actually when Superman Returns came out I went to Target and bought Superman: The Movie for $7.50 on sale. Not bad for a 30 year old film.

Anyway, I’m not here to flame, I just don’t like to be cast as a “brainless” movie watcher because I didn’t love Superman Returns. I didn’t hate it, but it fell far short of my expectations.

329. ClassicTrek - March 9, 2009

that new trailer featuring the original series cast (shatner, nimoy etc) is breathtaking. absolutlely brilliant. very well done. loved it.

I loved the real new trailer also. cant wait.

Buckle up

cheers
Greg
UK

330. Alex Rosenzweig - March 9, 2009

#325 – “The altered timeline premise and restart that occurs here actually frees all future incarnations of this crew and series from the events already in the current cannon.”

I think what I just can’t comprehend is the whole idea that we *need* to be “freed”. I don’t see maintaining continuity to be a limiting thing at all, so I have never felt a need to run away from it. It’s discontinuity that I dislike.

“Can we just imagine what a retelling of SPACE SEED would be like with Bad Robot? Or how about BALANCE OF TERROR, or even the TRIBLES? Or what about a revisit of the DOOMSDAY MACHINE?”

Frankly, I’d really hope that even in an alternate timeline, the writers would be more innovative than simply redoing stories that have already been done, just differently. That seems to be defeating the whole purpose of breaking away from a previous continuity, doesn’t it?

331. Dom - March 10, 2009

328. Kirk’s Girdle: ‘I just don’t like to be cast as a “brainless” movie watcher because I didn’t love Superman Returns. I didn’t hate it, but it fell far short of my expectations.’

You’re not. Superman Returns fell flat because it was everything a major franchise relaunch shouldn’t be: slavishly riffing on past themes having almost exactly the same designs as the original movies and actors cast who are made up and/or dressed to be almost exact lookalikes of the original actors, and whose performances are mostly pastiches of the originals.

I like it in a kind of nostalgic way and it’s an interesting alternative Superman III, but it has no real identity of its own!

332. sean - March 10, 2009

This trailer just wipes the floor with the other two. I loved those, but this one really inspired. Nice job Team Abrams!

333. I'm a Beliver - March 10, 2009

I only have one problem with this move. The sex scene. Star Trek: TOS does have sex apeal in some episodes, but it has never crossed the line into full blown sex. Everything else is great.

334. Kirk's Girdle - March 10, 2009

Re: 333

Don’t worry. They’re not going to show any boobies or anything. The scene will be cleaner than your average prime time television show.

335. Believer2 - March 11, 2009

333, I hear you. My nine year old son is dying to see this movie…I hope I can show it to him.

I guess I’m kind of excited too…my wife is sitting behind me as a I write this – I’ve watched the trailer like 10 times already tonight. “Are you watching that AGAIN?” she says. Snicker…gues I’m a fan.

336. Pimple - March 17, 2009

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