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	<title>Comments on: Austin, TX Fans Get Surprise Showing of Star Trek Movie [UPDATE 2: First Reviews In]</title>
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		<title>By: Star Trek advance screening Austin Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Star Trek advance screening Austin Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be thinking on its feet again from a marketing standpoint, as this coup has erupted all the Trek Blogs and fan sites across the quadrant, adding fuel to the already highly anticipated general release [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be thinking on its feet again from a marketing standpoint, as this coup has erupted all the Trek Blogs and fan sites across the quadrant, adding fuel to the already highly anticipated general release [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Movies, Process, and Brands &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Movies, Process, and Brands &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] -           Audience members are live-tweeting at preview screenings, getting WOM going for movies like Star Trek. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Star Trek - Pagina 2 - 9lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Star Trek - Pagina 2 - 9lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] en verschijnt Spock/Nimoy met de melding of je niet liever de nieuwste film wilt zien.  EPIC.   Austin, TX Fans Get Surprise Showing of Star Trek Movie [UPDATE 2: First Reviews In] &#124; TrekMovie.com    __________________ QR [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] en verschijnt Spock/Nimoy met de melding of je niet liever de nieuwste film wilt zien.  EPIC.   Austin, TX Fans Get Surprise Showing of Star Trek Movie [UPDATE 2: First Reviews In] | TrekMovie.com    __________________ QR [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edualc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edualc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember in &quot;I, Mudd&quot; when Spock looked at one female android and said, &quot;I love you...&quot; and looked at an identical female android and said &quot;But, I hate you.&quot;

Yeah. That&#039;s how it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember in &#8220;I, Mudd&#8221; when Spock looked at one female android and said, &#8220;I love you&#8230;&#8221; and looked at an identical female android and said &#8220;But, I hate you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. That&#8217;s how it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Spork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Spork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome work, Shane!  You go man!</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Rosenzweig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Rosenzweig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#565 - &quot;It appears that decalithium is the key to that door, and I think you are *underestimating* Spock. If Spock Prime melds with his younger self, then he has over 12 decades to solve the problem, doesn’t he?&quot;

Ahh, but if you&#039;re going to go down that road, then why might Spock Prime also share some of his understanding of time travel with his younger self, so as to potentially prevent the destruction of &lt;b&gt;their homeworld&lt;/b&gt;? I just can&#039;t see Spock--older or younger--just letting that go, if he had the power to do something about it, and Prime Spock knows quite a lot about how to do something about it.

&#039;Course, that could be part of the story for ST 2011...  [g,d, rlh]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#565 &#8211; &#8220;It appears that decalithium is the key to that door, and I think you are *underestimating* Spock. If Spock Prime melds with his younger self, then he has over 12 decades to solve the problem, doesn’t he?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahh, but if you&#8217;re going to go down that road, then why might Spock Prime also share some of his understanding of time travel with his younger self, so as to potentially prevent the destruction of <b>their homeworld</b>? I just can&#8217;t see Spock&#8211;older or younger&#8211;just letting that go, if he had the power to do something about it, and Prime Spock knows quite a lot about how to do something about it.</p>
<p>&#8216;Course, that could be part of the story for ST 2011&#8230;  [g,d, rlh]</p>
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		<title>By: Dantela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dantela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reboot?  Hmmm after all the talk of keeping to the established canon – after all the talk of not ignoring the last 40 years they actually did decide to forget it.  I know I will love the film (I even saw things to like about Star Trek 5) by why in the name of the maker did they try to “reboot” the series – effectively saying oh, you know all the episodes and movies you love – well they never happened.  I understand that they are trying to extend the fan base but there must have been a way to do this and keep what has all ready happened true.  Many have suggested that this worked for Bond, well yes and no.  Bond was really rebooted every time a new actor put on the tux.  Each was really a different Bond.  Some have said this worked for Batman, again yes and no.  It is now assumed that every few years comics will reboot.  Batman changed from his inception to something campy in the 60s, to dark in the 70s, to even darker in the 80s.  The movies seemed to follow this pattern too.
What they are doing with Trek in different.  I will leave my final opinion to all of this after I see the movie but I hope that it fits in with what has already been established otherwise if other movies are made you might as forget the last 40 years – they never happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reboot?  Hmmm after all the talk of keeping to the established canon – after all the talk of not ignoring the last 40 years they actually did decide to forget it.  I know I will love the film (I even saw things to like about Star Trek 5) by why in the name of the maker did they try to “reboot” the series – effectively saying oh, you know all the episodes and movies you love – well they never happened.  I understand that they are trying to extend the fan base but there must have been a way to do this and keep what has all ready happened true.  Many have suggested that this worked for Bond, well yes and no.  Bond was really rebooted every time a new actor put on the tux.  Each was really a different Bond.  Some have said this worked for Batman, again yes and no.  It is now assumed that every few years comics will reboot.  Batman changed from his inception to something campy in the 60s, to dark in the 70s, to even darker in the 80s.  The movies seemed to follow this pattern too.<br />
What they are doing with Trek in different.  I will leave my final opinion to all of this after I see the movie but I hope that it fits in with what has already been established otherwise if other movies are made you might as forget the last 40 years – they never happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#567---That&#039;s your opinion. I like the tie-in within the Star Trek Universe.

I like the fact that everything we&#039;ve seen thusfar (ENT-NEM) is what leads the story to this point.

No matter what direction they took, it wasn&#039;t going to please everyone.

If they have completely ignored what came before (like &quot;Batman Begins&quot; did), I would have been displeased. They didn&#039;t, and so someone else is displeased.

If they had continued in the timeline with a TNG-era sequel, I wouldn&#039;t care about it---just like I haven&#039;t for any of those movies.

If they had done a SW-like prequel, it would have been hampered by the same problems as the ones Lucas did----we&#039;d already know the fates of everyone involved!

There was no way to please everyone.

But I think that re-introducing the characters in an environment that presents *new* challenges to them is an intriguing prospect. There are things I don&#039;t like about the creative direction of this movie---but the use of the quite canonical &quot;altered timeline&quot; isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#567&#8212;That&#8217;s your opinion. I like the tie-in within the Star Trek Universe.</p>
<p>I like the fact that everything we&#8217;ve seen thusfar (ENT-NEM) is what leads the story to this point.</p>
<p>No matter what direction they took, it wasn&#8217;t going to please everyone.</p>
<p>If they have completely ignored what came before (like &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221; did), I would have been displeased. They didn&#8217;t, and so someone else is displeased.</p>
<p>If they had continued in the timeline with a TNG-era sequel, I wouldn&#8217;t care about it&#8212;just like I haven&#8217;t for any of those movies.</p>
<p>If they had done a SW-like prequel, it would have been hampered by the same problems as the ones Lucas did&#8212;-we&#8217;d already know the fates of everyone involved!</p>
<p>There was no way to please everyone.</p>
<p>But I think that re-introducing the characters in an environment that presents *new* challenges to them is an intriguing prospect. There are things I don&#8217;t like about the creative direction of this movie&#8212;but the use of the quite canonical &#8220;altered timeline&#8221; isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#566---&quot;If Kirk doesn’t steal the Enterprise, he stays as an Admiral on Earth.&quot;

That&#039;s assuming he ever accepts promotion. Given the fact that his path to Starfleet has been altered, there is no reason to assume that his career will not be as well.

&quot;...when the Whale Probe comes, he will not be able to save Earth. &quot;

That&#039;s unlikely, especially since Spock already has the necessary information. The same goes for the V&#039;Ger incident. 

&quot;The only one who could understand V’Ger was Spock, BECAUSE he was seeking Total Logic at that point. Spock’s character development was the key to solving the problem.&quot;

Again, Spock already knows what V&#039;Ger is all about.

&quot; We already know what happens, because there are major events that are still happening.&quot;

But who says that those events ever actually have to be *depicted* again onscreen? They can simply be &quot;referenced&quot;, and the story can move along in another direction. 

&quot;Orci &amp; Co locked themselves up in the ‘canon’ even worse now.&quot;

Why?

While some major events common to both timelines will still occur, it is also reasonable to assume that the changes to this timeline will cause *new* events, and even some common events may this time unfold differently.

For example, who knows how the destruction of Vulcan will affect the rest of the Federation, the physical presence of people and starships when key events take place, etc., etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#566&#8212;&#8221;If Kirk doesn’t steal the Enterprise, he stays as an Admiral on Earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s assuming he ever accepts promotion. Given the fact that his path to Starfleet has been altered, there is no reason to assume that his career will not be as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;when the Whale Probe comes, he will not be able to save Earth. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s unlikely, especially since Spock already has the necessary information. The same goes for the V&#8217;Ger incident. </p>
<p>&#8220;The only one who could understand V’Ger was Spock, BECAUSE he was seeking Total Logic at that point. Spock’s character development was the key to solving the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, Spock already knows what V&#8217;Ger is all about.</p>
<p>&#8221; We already know what happens, because there are major events that are still happening.&#8221;</p>
<p>But who says that those events ever actually have to be *depicted* again onscreen? They can simply be &#8220;referenced&#8221;, and the story can move along in another direction. </p>
<p>&#8220;Orci &amp; Co locked themselves up in the ‘canon’ even worse now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>While some major events common to both timelines will still occur, it is also reasonable to assume that the changes to this timeline will cause *new* events, and even some common events may this time unfold differently.</p>
<p>For example, who knows how the destruction of Vulcan will affect the rest of the Federation, the physical presence of people and starships when key events take place, etc., etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have either rebooted completely, like Batman Begins, or made a proper sequel or a proper prequel. But no mirror universe shyte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have either rebooted completely, like Batman Begins, or made a proper sequel or a proper prequel. But no mirror universe shyte.</p>
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