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		<title>By: rlp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the new movie this summer due to my father’s death. I was very excited to purchase the new DVD. OH MY GAWD! What have they done to my beloved Star Trek???? I don’t need or want to see Mr. Spock kissing pooing Uhura!!!! Don’t get me wrong Uhura (especially the original) is a knock out beauty, but I just don’t need to see them kissing and groping on the bridge!
I guess I am am an old 54 year old man who has watched the original (over and over) for 44 years. They made star Trek a knock off of Star Wars!!! The ship looked terrible, the aliens were stolen from Star Wars and the plot sucked. And they have mysterious stoic mystical Mr. Spock kissy pooing Uhura having Bridge sex! YUCK!!!! It is a terrible movie, bring them back from what ever time-line the producers stuck them in…I want my heros back in “real” Star Trek time!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the new movie this summer due to my father’s death. I was very excited to purchase the new DVD. OH MY GAWD! What have they done to my beloved Star Trek???? I don’t need or want to see Mr. Spock kissing pooing Uhura!!!! Don’t get me wrong Uhura (especially the original) is a knock out beauty, but I just don’t need to see them kissing and groping on the bridge!<br />
I guess I am am an old 54 year old man who has watched the original (over and over) for 44 years. They made star Trek a knock off of Star Wars!!! The ship looked terrible, the aliens were stolen from Star Wars and the plot sucked. And they have mysterious stoic mystical Mr. Spock kissy pooing Uhura having Bridge sex! YUCK!!!! It is a terrible movie, bring them back from what ever time-line the producers stuck them in…I want my heros back in “real” Star Trek time!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TREK MOVIES:&#8221;STAR TREK&#8221; Y SU NUEVA BANDA SONORA. &#171; AMIGOS TREK CHILE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TREK MOVIES:&#8221;STAR TREK&#8221; Y SU NUEVA BANDA SONORA. &#171; AMIGOS TREK CHILE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 04:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonboc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonboc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#234  &quot;all I wanna know (if you can answer me logically) is why does it have to have star trek in the title if the only resemblance is namesake? Why didn’t they just make another mindless action movie for people like you to soak up?&quot;

That&#039;s very easy. Clearly you&#039;re more accustomed to the Trek of TNG and forward than TOS.  TOS was, first and foremost, an action adventure series.  It just happened to be set in space.  It had romance, it had fist fights, it had beautiful girls in mini skirts.  It was  very much the wagon strain to the stars, stopping off at a new planet each week so KIrk could fight the bad guys, and with the help of SPock  and McCoy,  show us the awe, the wonder and the perils of deep space as the nation was feeling those same emotions with new rocket launch.   It also managed to slip in that much heralded &quot;social commentary&quot; that so many like to point out.  But such direct allegorys were nto really that frequent. 

This movie has these elements because STar Trek...not TNG and what came after, but because STar Trek, the original series,  had these elements as well and the movie is just being true to the source material.   Thank God!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#234  &#8220;all I wanna know (if you can answer me logically) is why does it have to have star trek in the title if the only resemblance is namesake? Why didn’t they just make another mindless action movie for people like you to soak up?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very easy. Clearly you&#8217;re more accustomed to the Trek of TNG and forward than TOS.  TOS was, first and foremost, an action adventure series.  It just happened to be set in space.  It had romance, it had fist fights, it had beautiful girls in mini skirts.  It was  very much the wagon strain to the stars, stopping off at a new planet each week so KIrk could fight the bad guys, and with the help of SPock  and McCoy,  show us the awe, the wonder and the perils of deep space as the nation was feeling those same emotions with new rocket launch.   It also managed to slip in that much heralded &#8220;social commentary&#8221; that so many like to point out.  But such direct allegorys were nto really that frequent. </p>
<p>This movie has these elements because STar Trek&#8230;not TNG and what came after, but because STar Trek, the original series,  had these elements as well and the movie is just being true to the source material.   Thank God!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Optimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trekdomkeeper-

I think the answer to your question is simply that the times have changed and so does star trek.  In terms of style and portray the TOS was a product of the 60s.  TNG, DS9, and VOY were products of the 80s and mostly 90s.  These are two very different eras with different attitudes.  The TOS was more like a western and TNG was more like ER.  Shatner&#039;s Kirk fought klingons, Picard talked to klingons.  As far as movie and television era that we live in now I think mainstream audiences are hungry for action.  Like comics go through phases I think star trek will go through phases.  But it won&#039;t go through anymore phases if we fans don&#039;t do our part and make this film a hit.  I&#039;ve been a fan for a long time and I like Star Trek in all it&#039;s forms.</description>
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<p>I think the answer to your question is simply that the times have changed and so does star trek.  In terms of style and portray the TOS was a product of the 60s.  TNG, DS9, and VOY were products of the 80s and mostly 90s.  These are two very different eras with different attitudes.  The TOS was more like a western and TNG was more like ER.  Shatner&#8217;s Kirk fought klingons, Picard talked to klingons.  As far as movie and television era that we live in now I think mainstream audiences are hungry for action.  Like comics go through phases I think star trek will go through phases.  But it won&#8217;t go through anymore phases if we fans don&#8217;t do our part and make this film a hit.  I&#8217;ve been a fan for a long time and I like Star Trek in all it&#8217;s forms.</p>
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		<title>By: TrekMadeMeWonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrekMadeMeWonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Kirk might have said (like he did to Savik in STII), &quot;Thank you &lt;b&gt;Mr.&lt;/b&gt; laneiglr902.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Kirk might have said (like he did to Savik in STII), &#8220;Thank you <b>Mr.</b> laneiglr902.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TrekdomKeeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrekdomKeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>231 stop presuming that the human race will survive another 300 years acting the same way it&#039;s acting now. I am not an &#039;old trek&#039; fan as trek ( especially TNG) has not become irrelevant in it&#039;s social messages. Nor was  the human race portrayed as &#039;perfect&#039; in it, just a he&#039;ll of a lot more enlightened, naturally, as it would need to be to transcend current obstacles. I was 11 years old when I saw my first episode of TNG in syndication. I immediately understood the reasons captain Picard exercised patience in his decisions and why the women of the future were as reserved as they were. I never really liked TOS because of the sixism of it. But this film has plenty of that to go around too. Point is it&#039;s even less progressive looking than TOS. Hey I got no problem with people wasting time and money on minlesd action films, all I wanna know (if you can answer me logically) is why does it have to have star trek in the title if the only resemblance is namesake? Why didn&#039;t they just make another mindless action movie for people like you to soak up? Please don&#039;t talk to me about &#039; the message&#039; of it cause if making it mindless is the way to get it out then what mindless movie watcher is gonna listen? Nevermind talking to some of you is like talking to a lizard in an ape suit, thinking the suit makes them smarter somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>231 stop presuming that the human race will survive another 300 years acting the same way it&#8217;s acting now. I am not an &#8216;old trek&#8217; fan as trek ( especially TNG) has not become irrelevant in it&#8217;s social messages. Nor was  the human race portrayed as &#8216;perfect&#8217; in it, just a he&#8217;ll of a lot more enlightened, naturally, as it would need to be to transcend current obstacles. I was 11 years old when I saw my first episode of TNG in syndication. I immediately understood the reasons captain Picard exercised patience in his decisions and why the women of the future were as reserved as they were. I never really liked TOS because of the sixism of it. But this film has plenty of that to go around too. Point is it&#8217;s even less progressive looking than TOS. Hey I got no problem with people wasting time and money on minlesd action films, all I wanna know (if you can answer me logically) is why does it have to have star trek in the title if the only resemblance is namesake? Why didn&#8217;t they just make another mindless action movie for people like you to soak up? Please don&#8217;t talk to me about &#8216; the message&#8217; of it cause if making it mindless is the way to get it out then what mindless movie watcher is gonna listen? Nevermind talking to some of you is like talking to a lizard in an ape suit, thinking the suit makes them smarter somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: ger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DS9 was a realistic view of what humans would be like in the future. Even more so because we&#039;ve seen not only Starfleet officers but civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS9 was a realistic view of what humans would be like in the future. Even more so because we&#8217;ve seen not only Starfleet officers but civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: laneiglr902</title>
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		<dc:creator>laneiglr902</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me - but what about &quot;It&#039;s not your MOTHER&#039;S Star Trek? I&#039;m female and I&#039;ve been watching the series since 1969  first re-runs when I was a girl. This seems like the Star Trek we&#039;ve all been waiting for since Wrath of Khan. Now my family and I can hardly wait for the May 8th opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me &#8211; but what about &#8220;It&#8217;s not your MOTHER&#8217;S Star Trek? I&#8217;m female and I&#8217;ve been watching the series since 1969  first re-runs when I was a girl. This seems like the Star Trek we&#8217;ve all been waiting for since Wrath of Khan. Now my family and I can hardly wait for the May 8th opening.</p>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>229 : &quot;Civilized&quot; behaviour...hmm...let&#039;s look at civilization, shall we?  Arrogance is very much a part of &quot;civilized&quot; behaviour.

But even if I take the meaning you want to ascribe to it : &quot;Polite&quot;, I&#039;m afraid it doesn&#039;t make for a good movie (or even good TV).  Conflict is the essence of drama, and Trek in all its incarnations has to survive on conflict.  I think you&#039;re unhappy because (for once) that conflict appears to be physical...well, after Nemesis, I&#039;m a bit tired of purely mental dilemmas (like, &quot;how long should I keep sitting in this seat&quot;)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>229 : &#8220;Civilized&#8221; behaviour&#8230;hmm&#8230;let&#8217;s look at civilization, shall we?  Arrogance is very much a part of &#8220;civilized&#8221; behaviour.</p>
<p>But even if I take the meaning you want to ascribe to it : &#8220;Polite&#8221;, I&#8217;m afraid it doesn&#8217;t make for a good movie (or even good TV).  Conflict is the essence of drama, and Trek in all its incarnations has to survive on conflict.  I think you&#8217;re unhappy because (for once) that conflict appears to be physical&#8230;well, after Nemesis, I&#8217;m a bit tired of purely mental dilemmas (like, &#8220;how long should I keep sitting in this seat&#8221;)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: therealtrekfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>therealtrekfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#229 - So you&#039;re saying you&#039;ve seen the movie huh? Or do you fail to understand what a &quot;preview&quot; or &quot;trailer&quot; is. It&#039;s purpose is to draw people in. Honestly, if you&#039;re an old trek fan that has no desire to see Star Trek with action, adventure, awesome special effects, the seriously, DON&#039;T SEE THE MOVIE. Most true trek fans have been craving this type film. Draw new people in, then they can see for themselves the wonderful message Star Trek protrays. Star Trek needs an injection of new blood, or it&#039;s dead. 

I guess we should all idolize TOS with all the sexism and cheesiness it portrays in the 23rd century. Or perhaps we should idolize TNG outlook on the future that portrays a bunch of stiffs for a human race wearing tight ridiculous looking clothing. 

As much as I loved those TNG and TOS, they really weren&#039;t a very realistic view of what humans will be like in the future. Although i&#039;m 100% confident that the human race will eventually better itself, there will never be &quot;perfection&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#229 &#8211; So you&#8217;re saying you&#8217;ve seen the movie huh? Or do you fail to understand what a &#8220;preview&#8221; or &#8220;trailer&#8221; is. It&#8217;s purpose is to draw people in. Honestly, if you&#8217;re an old trek fan that has no desire to see Star Trek with action, adventure, awesome special effects, the seriously, DON&#8217;T SEE THE MOVIE. Most true trek fans have been craving this type film. Draw new people in, then they can see for themselves the wonderful message Star Trek protrays. Star Trek needs an injection of new blood, or it&#8217;s dead. </p>
<p>I guess we should all idolize TOS with all the sexism and cheesiness it portrays in the 23rd century. Or perhaps we should idolize TNG outlook on the future that portrays a bunch of stiffs for a human race wearing tight ridiculous looking clothing. </p>
<p>As much as I loved those TNG and TOS, they really weren&#8217;t a very realistic view of what humans will be like in the future. Although i&#8217;m 100% confident that the human race will eventually better itself, there will never be &#8220;perfection&#8221;.</p>
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