why would the romulans have to wait to drill a hole first, in order to drop the red matter?? Wouldn’t the black hole have destroyed Vulcan and Earth without drilling a hole into the center of the earth??? (YES). In which case, wouldn’t both Vulcan and Earth both been easily destroyed by the Romulans? The main ultra-weapon employed in the entire movie is completely ridiculous and makes no sense. I don’t see why they didn’t figure that out before they put the movie out.

A reboot using an alternate timeline as springboard.

Alternate timeline- that’s original.

I hope the movie can stand on its own merits.

The other introduces a mess — if you like the Trek universe to make sense internally — where there was none, and if what you say is true, then for reasons external to the needs of the story.

So, for me anyway, a twenty year old starship compresses too many things (ship changes, uniform changes etc.) for easy internal explanation and the reason given for her retirement (she’s old) is incredulous given that a decade before she was “an almost totally new Enterprise.”

Now, since the Prime Universe is now closed for the foreseeable future, and since no Prime Universe canon story depends on that figure, my inclination is to include as much of that universe unchanged as possible.

So I choose to put Morrow on the list of bureaucratic functionaries, and kick his comment to the curb as an error, and thereby preserve, at least to me, the more orderly progression from Cage to WNMHGB to the series as it was portrayed on TOS.

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I really dislike reconns.

Have you seen it? If you have, then you’d be the first to say such a thing. I have yet to see any review that isn’t decidedly favorable.

#177—-”Abrams fostered my disdain for him w/ his fleecing of “Lost”. He belittles and demeans his fan-base for that show with each episode. Mid 2nd season afterward has been garbage.”

Abrams hasn’t had much to do with the creative direction of the show since the 1st season, actually.

“Hasn’t ANYONE told him it’s: Trekker, not trekkie?”

Individual fans prefer one or the other, or in some cases, neither. Either term gets the point across.

“@71 – As to JJ’s plans for “Superman,” if you’ll recall in “The Death/Return of Superman” storyline, the real Supes (not one of the four pretenders) wore a black costume with a silver “S” shield. In “Lois and Clark,” in the final season Clark wore a black costume for a couple of episodes. So there is some precedent to JJ’s comments. Don’t be so quick to judge until you know the facts.”

Sorry, but you’re mistaken. Abrams’ SUPERMAN RETURNS was nothing like that at all. His script had a Krypton that never exploded, a Kryptonian Lex Luthor, Superman as a Neo-wannabe destined to liberate Krypton from his evil uncle and cousin, super kung-fu, a Neo-like fakeout death scene, and a living Superman costume in a can. The script is up at Superman Homepage if you don’t believe me, and there’s no black costume in it. That notion was in other, much earlier failed scrips for SUPERMAN RETURNS from the mid-’90s.

As it pertains to STAR TREK…if the movie works at all, it will be due to everything BUT Abrams. It’ll be the writers and actors who make this thing work. Abrams himself I have no faith in.

u have totally screwed up star trek for star trek fans everywhere. i hope your movie burns in hell!

But what bugs me is that Kahn was sent off into deep space in what…..1996 or something like that. Sure that was writen in the 1980s, but from a 2009 perspective, that bugs me. I wish that there was a ways that the movie folks—without remaking the movie–would just digitally fix the dialogue in Space Seed and Wrath of Kahn.

It’s like Escape from New York. I don’t think that it should be remade with a new cast. I think they should just digitally change the year that’s mentioned it takes placein (it’s set in 1997)….whether that means changing someones voice and lip movement with CGI or by changing text shown on the screen. Then they can do the same with Escape from L.A. Then they can make another movie—Escape from Philidephia which could be a prequel to the film.

That’s what I told a freind of mine while watching Mad Max. I said, whenever I watch it, I view it as being a few years from whenever I’m wathcing the movie. Not a few years from 1979 or whenever it was made. I realize that that is not the intention of the writer….but that’s how I like to interpret it. Because I want a fourth movie not a remake of the three films that are already almost perfect, to me. And I would even mind if Max was recast because they feel Mel Gibson is too old for another movie. Have the fourth one take place between the Roadwarrior and Beyond Thunderdome. Cast Collin Ferral as Max. It would work. Same character, same world, different actor because of the age thing. Then they can make the final Max story with Max as an older man and put Gibson back in. That’s two movies there.

I’m just ranting….sorry.