New Star Trek Dossiers + New Movie Images + more April 23, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
Paramount has been busy today, with an update on their official Star Trek site ( startrekmovie.com) of four new ‘dossiers’, plus they have sent out ten new official images. There are also new ships in the Enterprise Gallery and new downloadable icons for your Mac or PC. Check it all out below.
New Dossiers
There are four new entries in the Dossiers section at the official site [direct link to startrekmovie.com dossiers]. Now there are a total of 12, with empty spaces for four more to come. The new ones are for Vulcan, Scotty Chekov, and Sulu. Each dossier image is also available as a downloadable wallpaper and has interesting tidbits about the characters.
Vulcan
Scotty
Chekov
Sulu
New images
Paramount has just released a new set of images from Star Trek, see below with minor spoilery captions
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Karl Urban as Bones McCoy
Uhura and Kirk meet in a bar in Iowa
Kirk and Sulu get ready to leap to Vulcan
Kirk sees the Enterprise for the first time
Kirk rides bike into Riverside Shipyeards
Kirk and Sulu fight Romulans over Vulcan
Kirk w/ Scotty in background on Delta Vega
Chris Pine as Kirk gets ready for his Kobayashi Maru
Zoe Saldana as Uhura
Anton Yelchin as Chekov
Free Star Trek icons available at the Icon Factor
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Enterprise Project updates
Lastly, the gallery of ships at The Enterprise Project (startrekmovie.com/modelgallery) is now almost complete, with only three left, In the last few days there have been a number of new entries, including a ‘Bad Robot’ Enterprise.
Enterprise done up as a "Bad Robot"
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“no comments yet – be the first?”
yeah, first *not*
anyway, really looking forward to it!
Awhhh, Anton Yelchin is so cute…
Doesn’t anyone else think so? He’s adorable! You could just eat him up.
ARGH not first. xD
Oh well. Third?
Wow, if you look at slide 8 on the website you’ll see a bunch of new ship designs docked at that (awesome looking) Starbase. I got goosebumps!
20th!!! just kidding.
those glass displays on the bridge seem less weird to me now that I know they come with a sharpey shaped stylus. This proves it’s not an apple store bridge, because then it would be a touch screen.
the chair from the Kobayashi Maru pic looks better than the Enterprise one
The Bad Robo’prise is so cute!! :D
Dang, I know it’s not a lot, but Star Trek is 100% on both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic right now.
O_o
Pegg is looking a lot like Doohan in his dossier picture.
Stupid J.J. Abrams ruining everything. Everything. And he’s gonna make a second one?
I hope the end of this movie has a big white POOF and once the whole timeline has been fixed, the REAL 1701 (you know, the real ORIGINAL) will fly by and the crew will be in the NORMAL uniforms on the REAL ORIGINAL bridge and Kirk says something like “Second star to the right, and straight on till morning” and then, and only then will JJ make it right.
I want one of those cozy Kobayashi Maru sweaters.
10. Kim Jong II
I’d seriously consider going to see a counselor.
10. Kim Jong Il –
I bet you’re happy you still have your blurry videotape TOS episodes. Please don’t sit behind me in the theatre — I don’t want to have to deal with your non-stop whining.
um…#10. please tell me that was serious sarcasm. if not, then take a seat and chill out. if you have that much of a problem, there are tons of dvds of the movies and tos episodes for you to enjoy. please do so.
Awww, Anton Yelchin is adorable!
I can’t wait for this movie :> Also… #10, dude, just chill out.
Scotty’s dossier is quite amusing…
“Former Academy aide for Admiral Archer’s “Advanced Relativistic Mechanics” course.”
I never cared much for “Enterprise”, but that’s a neat little tie-in.
Vulcan’s dossier mentions that it has no moons, keeping with Spock’s line in “The Man Trap”.
Well there is a nice nod to canon in Sulu’s dossier. Says he was at top of his class in Astrosciences. Perhaps had the timeline not been disrupted Sulu might have made it to the Enterprise as an astrophysicist first.
and the award for most ironic but yet still applicable handle of the day goes to:
Post #10!
well done..
perhaps he’s just wonely, oh so wonely…. ;)
I love kirks bike. Its really cool. I have to admit, i thought it would have been a really crappy bike, but thats the first time i got to see it fully. Gotta say…. the design of everything in this movie seems to be really impeccable.
why is Chekov standing behind the glass “screen” with the text facing the wrong way?
#8–It’s great that Star Trek is at 100% on RT! Yay!
#10–It’s time to take a chill pill. Roddenberry himself said that after he was gone he would like someone else to continue Star Trek.
Now, it would be nice if the alternate timeline was created with a time paradox so that Romulus was never destroyed, but the alternate would still remain. That way the movie wouldn’t end with the events never happening, but the Romulans would still would pose a large presence in the 24th century for future adventures.
@12, 13…
I’d advise you to not annoy the Dear Leader… he’s a bit cranky since the Taepodong fizzled :P
@20:
That looks like one of those old situation boards thatused to be in military air control rooms — they’d track flights with a grease pen. The same concept was used in Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back in the Hoth Base sequences.
I loved the dossiers. The factoids about each of the characters were quiter interesting.
I knew that Scotty was a brilliant engineer. I didn’t know he graduated at the top of his class at Starfleet Academy. In this timeline, Scotty must be pretty young. I wonder if the incident with Admiral Archer’s beagle had anything to do with the “disciplinary action” noted in his dossier. Oh. and he does look a lot like James Doohan in his dossier picture.
The canon nods are great.
The one thing that strikes me as peculiar is Chekhov. Was he a great scientist? Hm… not in the show, where he was a bit dully characterized as a snob of all things Russian.
Although, in Diane Duane’s books, he did have the makings of a potential science officer. And we know that Orci is a fan of Spock’s World. So, that fits actually.
Where can one find a pic of Spock? Or did I miss it? The gent they hav to play young McCoy is perfect!!!
@10: Come on, you can’t live in the 60’s forever, time to grow up! Things have changed, the storytelling, the directing, the design,… You can’t have a Trek movie with a cheesy set and design that belongs to the 60’s. It’s 2009 my friend, if you refuse that, at least let the young people watch a new vision of Star Trek!
By the way, you can still buy TOS on DVDs or Blurays. ;)
#25 Chekov here is the wunderkind Wesley Crusher type of his time. Child prodigy, which is Orci & Kurtzman’s backhanded a-ha to keep his age relative to Kirk intact.
Wonderful canon nods in the dossiers. I hope we can find out if O&K wrote them someday…
#10– Just buy the movie DVD when it comes out, remove the CSS and add that stuff yourself. I plan to do the same thing with Cinema Paradiso some day: They used to have some images in the credits on VHS that gave it a more optimistic ending… They cut those from the DVD…
Chekov may not have been a great scientist…
But in the original series it seems like he was always the one that would run to Spock’s science station when Spock was elsewhere.
I can think of several episodes of TOS where Chekov played a prominent role at the Science station.
So even though they didn’t play it up in TOS, Chekov was obviously well trained and extremely competent at the job. Competent enough that he eventually became First Officer on a science research vessel: the Reliant.
So I don’t find this to conflict with his character development from TOS at all.
I love all the nods to canon in the dossier and (based on the TrekMovie review) I look forward to all of them in the film. The more I learn about the new film I get more and more excited to see it. May 8th can’t get here soon enough. Two weeks and 1 day away!!!
I think the image where the caption reads kirk and sulu are preparing to leap to vulcan is actually just after they are beamed back…
The profiles reference Sulu’s interest in botany too, a nice call back to his botanist posting in “Where No Man Has Gone Before”.
As for those who are having canon issues with this film… DO NOT WORRY. An explanation for EVERYTHING is given in the film. Trust me. A friend of mine was in Austin and I grilled him about issues like that. He says that there’s a perfect explanation, but wouldn’t tell me anything more.
I wish the “Star Trek” cereal would come out… I spend my mornings (I am disabled and can’t work) watching TOS (trying to do all 80 episodes before May 8th. I started Friday and will probably finish Season 1 tonight.) and eating cereal.
and the spock dossier was #6
@ 33
Is your injury anything serious/permanent? If not, here’s to hoping you feel better.
That’s nice that you get to catch up on TOS. I wish its syndication hours weren’t so ungoldy (2, 3 AM) where I live.
” STAR TREK OUTSELLING X-MEN
Despite releasing a week later than “X-Men,” “Star Trek” has already sold 25% more advance tickets at MovieTickets.com than “X-Men.””
http://screenrant.com/wolverine-outselling-iron-man-ticket-sales-rob-6939/
and appreantly X-men itself is on pace to sell 3 times more tickets then what iron man did in its opening… and STAR TREK is already 25 percent higher then x-men !!!! OH YEAHHHHH !!!
# 20
It looks like he is writing on a transparent computer screen with some sort of stylus. It looks like he is doing something they never showed on TOS: making calculations while plotting a course — you know, like a real navigator.
Good stuff.
I gotta stop reading the captions, it might ruin the movie for me, I’m doing my best to be spoiler-free as possible.
Zoe Saldana has a nice smile.
I can’t WAIT!!!! :D
So is the motorcycles wheels independent from the body? Look at the picture, it’s blowing my mind! Did someone say it was a BMW?
#10, you are not of the body. Just kidding. Really.
I love these little nods in the dossiers: The fact that Kirk, master of Kirk-Fu, was a assistant instructor of hand-to-hand. Pike being from Mojave. McCoy holding a Astrophobia seminar. Uhura being the VP of the Starfleet Academy Choir. Spock being a grandmaster at 3D Chess. “Ex Astris Scientia”. “Admiral Archer”. Chekov being the youngest cadet ever to win the marathon (he must have been, like, 15). Sulu’s swordsmanship.
Nice, very nice.
BTW, my guess on the last 4 dossiers: USS Enterprise NCC-1701, Old Spock, Nero, The Narada.
#10, I admit I originally felt the same way you did, especially after hearing that a certain major planet of the Federation is destroyed.
After much thought, I’m looking forward to seeing how they explain everything, I’ve enjoyed JJ Abrams other movies and shows so I’ll give him an open mind and go see the movie in glorious IMAX.
I just hope that it is explained what delayed the construction of the Enterprise. In the movie it’s a new ship, so I’m assuming that “The Cage” did not happen among other things.
All the little nods to obscure canon in the dossiers make me feel much better about this movie (already feeling good, but any unbroken canon is good canon). It just shows how much care they take to respect the old within the new.
So ready for this movie to come out!!
Uhura is great, but I want Number One!
This is truly awesome stuff. Only two weeks to go. I like the dossiers. They have a lot of nice canon nods. I also like the bike and the shipyards setting. Interesting how they tried to play down the CGI as much as possible. It works!
You know this might be one of the most random things to say on here, but I am missing British Naval Dude’s Sailor talkin here on the boards. Anyone else whos been on this board for a long time agree with me?
“I just hope that it is explained what delayed the construction of the Enterprise. In the movie it’s a new ship, so I’m assuming that “The Cage” did not happen among other things.”
Imagine it happened on whatever ship Pike was on before the Enterprise. Or, alternatively, imagine it was a “shakedown” cruise before comissioning.
Did anyone notice that Kirk’s bike had HOVER TIRES?
NO AXLE
NO SPOKES
and the back tire has some kind of light up semi free floating device
HOVER TIRES!!!!
10
You sound rather ignorant.
Ah I see Kimmy is back to his antics!
“Ronery I so ronery…”
-cs™
@10: Painfully obvious troll is painfully obvious.
Zoe Saldana is so fine; just her smile lights up the entire room.
Vulcan is beautiful, and that Academy ring is really cool.
@48: Hell, yeah! You know you want one — Hover-bikes FTW!
re: #20 — What I meant was, why is Checkov on the wrong side of the glass? Shouldn’t he be on the side so that he can read the numbers correctly?
Notice how the bridge doesn’t seem as bright in those shots. Hmmm… interesting.
Lol, yes, yes he is. Maybe he’s mad that Arec Barwin let him down so he’s taking it out on JJ. Hell, Ive been super skeptical this whole time, but Im excited now. If they man running Trekmovie says its good, then I have faith. Am I gonna agree with everything in it, doubtful, but this is Star Trek, and as Trekkies, we always find something to pick at, its our nature. Interesting to see that Chekov is the youngest to win the marathon…at least till good ol’ Jean-Luc comes around a ceuntury later. Site looks good, and a week from today most of us will be seeing the movie, thank god for midnight showings (and in my town a 7PM showing)
Oh, one little thing to pick at, though. In Enterprise, if I remember right, the Vulcan High Command was dissolved after Archer found the Kia Shara (or however you spell it) And sorry JJ, since that happened before TOS, time travel cant explain that away.
@10 you know I have to say that while I’m sure even people who are as excited as this film as I am have their own personal doubts, there are trolls like you who take it to a new level
You and your beetle-browed friends are more than free to post your nitpicking here, from the comfort of your parent’s basement
And when the film comes out, feel free to light up all the trek BBSs about every single irrelevant mistake you’ve come across
But so help me God, if one of you disgusting obese fanboys disrupts by movie going experience, I will put the dropKirk on your fat ass so hard that you seriously better hope that your parents can afford to buy you a Rascal (although most of you are probably already in one)
Ahh..thats better
VIva La Trek!
And yet another thing I noticed, the date has been changed on the site to the 7th…
I am super excited for this movie, but I have to say…
Is it me or do the Vulcan buildings look like run down parking garages?
Zoe Saldana looks like my girlfriend.
I am so seriously lucky. :)
Anyone notice on the Starfleet Academy ring that it was for the class of 2258? That’s four years after “The Cage” took place in the “Prime” timeline.
@ 40… you get 500 Quatloos for making a “Return of the Archons” reference, though you are right.
He is not of the body.
He must be absorbed.
It is the will of Landru.
60 SPOILER WARNING thats because I think that Nero’s interference causes things to be delayed in this film..Kirk joining starfleet later, his dad not living to see him become captain
Thats what ive pieced together..I havent seen the film, so maybe that isnt a spoiler at all
HOW CONVENIENT ABRAMS!!!
I kid
#55 — The Vulcan High Command still exists… the leaders of the high command in ENT were replaced after the events of season 4, but much of the organizational structure remained.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Vulcan_High_Command#Federation-era_history
with Zoe Saldana as Uhura, they’ll have to Rename the character “Ooohura” :) <3 <3 <3
#10
And what would have defined as real anyways. When it comes to fictional Tv, I hate to break it to you, but, IT’S ALL NOT REAL!!!
See, you are definately one of the types of people that Abrams isn’t targeting because your type doesn’t make much money. If you wanted “real” then buy the TOS DVDs and don’t bug anybody.
Sorry if that sounds rude, but I hate extremist fanatics
re: 65…
(Breaks down crying and sucking thumb because illusions have been shattered.)
56:
“… dropKirk…” ???
Thanks. That made my day.
:)
HEADS UP: Entertainment Tonight is going to air an exclusive “Sneak Peak” of Star Trek on tomorrow’s (Friday) show.
#30
Exactly so! And he was also acting Science Officer in Star Trek III after Spock’s death.
Just saw the film tonight and I had a great time.
I am officially a fan of this film.
I can now speak without the handicap of gross speculation and blind optimism or hatred.
Thank you Mr. Orci for giving me the funnest movie house experience since i was a kid.
#17
Not to mention the nod to “Advanced Botany” for Sulu. In “The Man Trap” he has a scene where he’s taking care of plants.
@30 jamfoFL- great recall.
And guys…I think @10 is only screwing with you. I think.
I just don’t like the new Chekov.
It’s part jealousy, as we’re the same age and I’m an aspiring actor, but a larger part that he’s not tough looking or cool. And yet he has two movies coming out within a week of each other one of which he’s playing Kyle Reese who was tough and cool, when it was Michael Biehn.
Admittedly, Chekov is kind of wimpy so this roll is appropriate, but I cannot get beyond the Kyle Reese thing — TERRIBLE!
#21 – “Now, it would be nice if the alternate timeline was created with a time paradox so that Romulus was never destroyed, but the alternate would still remain. That way the movie wouldn’t end with the events never happening, but the Romulans would still would pose a large presence in the 24th century for future adventures.”
As it happens, the novels have that covered, though I’m sure they didn’t know how relevant it’d be at the time they worked that plotline out. ;)
#42 – “#10, I admit I originally felt the same way you did, especially after hearing that a certain major planet of the Federation is destroyed.”
There’s a lot about this film that doesn’t bother me (recasting, revised sets, etc.), and a lot I’m looking forward to, but that particular thing referred to by #42 really, really does bother me. Just my point-of-view, but if it really happens, that will inevitably color how I look at the film.
What the heck is that shamwow rag Pine is wearing, looks like some kind of paper towel. Ever see a Pine interview with Quinto. Pine gets a lot of back up from Quinto as you can see him lean in all the time to interject some intelligence into Pines stupid comments. Quinto obviously has some very good refinement in his education.
70, I’m glad to hear that you enjoyed the film and I’m envious of the fact that you got to see it early.
56, you are correct when you say that some people who are excited to see this film have some doubts (my only one being the Vulcan “destruction” thing) but I’ll see the film and see how it works. Other than that I have no real concerns and I am extremely excited to see this film as I said in my previous post.
60, good eye. The year on the class ring is indeed 2258.
41 said: “BTW, my guess on the last 4 dossiers: USS Enterprise NCC-1701, Old Spock, Nero, The Narada.”
I would say that those pics are an excellent guess. I think that you’re probably right.
36, more good news regarding the film. Let’s hope the trend continues.
73–
The new Chekov was great!!!
I don’t know the guy personally, but I can tell you he took the role seriously.
I love Chekov in the old show, and this new guy nailed it.
@75: Surely Quinto is a more experienced actor and so better with interviews than Pine
Everything Pine says has seemed plenty intelligent to me, just nervous. Guy has a right to be. Sure, Pine doesn’t ooze intellectual sophistication, but the guy’s an actor, that’s not his damn job, he’s there to know how to ACT
Really: demeaning an actor’s intelligence when all you’ve seen are a couple of interviews is stupid
25. Yammer – April 23, 2009
“The one thing that strikes me as peculiar is Chekhov. Was he a great scientist? Hm… not in the show, where he was a bit dully characterized as a snob of all things Russian.”
Go back and watch the shows (for free on Fancast.com). Pay attention this time.
“Who Mourns for Adonais?”
“A Private Little War”
“The Way to Eden”
He backed up Spock at his science station on the bridge.
He showed leadership and initiative.
He had an encyclopedic knowledge.
All canon.
I’ve seen just about every interview out there with Pine. He’s sounds like a smart guy. And he was great in “Bottle Shock.” How many of y’all have seen it?
Actually, seems JJ has put together a sharp ensemble of actors. Smart actors are often very good at their art.
Plus Quinto and Pine are hilarious together.
32. vice1986 – April 23, 2009
I think the image where the caption reads kirk and sulu are preparing to leap to vulcan is actually just after they are beamed back…
I was looking at that image too. Looks like they are already beat up pretty good.
All the reactions to #10 – why does any traditionalist need to be called an extremist these days? Is it so bad to ask for traditional values to be respected?
You know, it was -not- necessary to do “extreme makeover” in order to make Star Trek look and feel fresh.
The uniforms are a best example of this: they are spot-on. Costume designers did their work. They are spiffier and sexier, yet very very true to original.
So why has the bridge look so cluttered and busy, totally abandoning the original, functional and ergonomic design sensiblities ever NASA drew from? And yes, I’m talking specifically about all those excessive lights and additional crew posts. If they wanted more people on the bridge, they could’ve put more chairs around the outer bridge rim, instead of adding those silly “receptionist desk” consoles.
Or, why has the Enterprise look like they took the original NCC-1701 plastic kit and put it in hot oven for way too long? How does “short and thick nacelles” and “silly crooked pylons” equal “more modern look”?
I’d expect somewhat better work from such acclaimed designers. I don’t say it’s bad, but I’d expect better.
I am looking forward to this film a lot now.
I think this will be an excellent film, I still don’t like everything that JJ has changed but it will be a great film.
I was wondering why being concerned about changes makes you think people are less of a fan?
I am looing forward to the film and also looking forward to getting TOS season 1 on blu ray
I love the little shot at Picard in Checkov’s profile
73. JoBlo
Have you been in anything we’ve seen?
To the folks that are worried and fretting over their dislike or disapproval over the designs:
From my experience watching the film, one is too engaged in the story and interplay of the characters to think about the surface detail for too long.
There aren’t any superfluous effects shots. They serve to function at the bequest of the story and how the characters interact with their environment.
It really is like getting plopped into their world, we aren’t spoon fed the 23rd century. Sure, there are beautiful shots of the stuff we love about Star Trek. They are just integrated into the film, into the story rather, without bringing too much attention to themselves.
Again, our attention is focused on the characters and story.
I would rather not be too specific this early on when so few have seen it.
WHOA!!!!
Look at Checkov’s is he part Vulcan ?
THE EARS
Cute retro technology
87
So no scenes where everything in the film comes crashing to a halt while the Security officer explains how many settings the phaser has?
91–
Yea, you got it. No, scenes like that. These guys have all been to Starfleet academy, they know how everything works.
In fact, they know their jobs and do them well.
Except, they are human…very human (unless they’re alien), so they do mae mistakes from time to time.
They’re not intangible super hero’s. We feel empathy for them, because we understand what they are going through, on a fundamental level.
Hey! Checkov is actually *using* one of those glass infowalls.
I always thought they were superfluous set-dressing.. but if they’re actually using it with some kind of pen thing.. I could change my mind.
@83, Paul
Did you read #10’s post? This was more than someone complaining about phasers and sets and ships looking different.
He’s being called an extremist because of the incredibly caustic post he made about a film HE’S NOT EVEN SEEN YET, how his “fanboy ending” would have Rick Berman’s trusty reset button dusted off and hauled out, making everything these characters go through meaningless.
God I wish people would wait till the movie is out before they say it’s a pile of crap. I fail to see the logic in making one’s mind up BEFORE seeing more of the film in question than a combined six and a half minutes.
83–
Having seen the ending i can say:
If it ended the way he want’s, the only happy camper would be him. The rest of us would be baffled by the absurdity. In fact I’d say, given the rest of the film, it would lower the bar quite a bit and feel tacked on and overtly sentimental.
This new Trek has emotion and complexity…but it’s not maudlin, like a lot of trek has been.
re: the vulcan high command stuff — when did vulcan get a praetor, as mentioned in the countdown comics…. or did I miss something (I abandoned Enterprise after the 3rd season)…
re: the Vulcan high command stuff — when did vulcan get a praetor, as mentioned in the countdown comics…. or did I miss something (I abandoned Enterprise after the 3rd season)…
Your loss in missing Enterprise’s 3rd season, and its 4th. Serves you right.
So, it is determined that Vulcan does not have a red sky in this incarnation?…from orbit it appears red though scenes from ground level show a blueish sky…has this already been discussed somewhere?
Sure.
The pic of Kirk and Sulu is after they beamed back from Vulcan, just watch their faces ….
… won’t tell more do save others of spoilers.
Why the hell does he ride a bike on wheels? Because he likes the old fashioned stuff? Or did they run out of budget just like with the ARGO in Nemesis?
Weren’t there visible “moons” (2 if I recall) on Vulcan during the Kohlinar scene in TMP?
I do remember Spock stating “Vulcan has no moon” in TOS.
Does that mean Mr. Roddenberry violated his own canon making TMP, or did he just not have time to check the matte paintings?
Imagine the nit-picking, non-canon postings if we had the web back in 1978-79!
Gary Seven, they fixed that in the special edition of TMP, which is because they did care for canon and wanted to change that after they noticed they did something wrong.
The shot captioned “Kirk and Sulu get ready to leap to Vulcan” has to actually be after they returned . . . look how scratched up their faces are!
About TMP’s ‘ canon ‘ mistakes….
Paramount wanted the movie out YESTERDAY so there wasn’t time to edit and review the film for errors in the film itself.
So for 20 years we were watching a ‘ Work In Progress ‘
Some of us knew it too, sub-consciously that is, some things didn’t seem right about the film to us, due to knowing Trek all too well at the time.
Incredible. Can’t wait to see what they do for the Kobayashi Maru training simulation.
#79—He also describes himself as “acting science officer” on the bridge of the stolen Enterprise in TSFS during the setting of the destruct sequence, not to mention his posting on the “science vessel” USS Grissom in TWOK.
And as you say, Chekov frequently took over the science station on the bridge in Spock’s absence throughout the 2nd-3rd seasons of TOS—as if it were somehow pre-ordained.
Both he and Sulu had a clear interest in the sciences, even if their primary duties on the Enterprise were as navigator and helmsman. The notion that both of them performed well in fields of science at SFA makes perfect sense.
The whole “Vulcan High Command” thing, however, is something which bothers me a bit. By my recollection, the VHC was abolished after its corruption was exposed in the mid-22nd Century.
It will be interesting to see if there is any explanation for this at all in the film.
#94- Re: “reset button”
It seems the very thing that is upsetting some fans is what makes it exciting for others. I personally am glad they are not resorting to the “reset button” theory…to me, that’s part of what will make this so great. It’s an “all bets are off” Trek, real jeopardy can come into play again. It’s EXCITING again, b/c who knows what could happen? I know that’s not a notion that everyone here is satisfied with, and that’s ok. But I think ultimately the “no cop out, no reset” is the way to go to keep things fresh for (let’s hope) at least another couple of movies. I’m so happy b/c there’s alot of Star Trek out there all of a sudden. Its back in toy stores, there are TV commercials, it’s in the news, it’s getting GOOD REVIEWS, it’s BIG. And its about time, too.
#104 re: TMP-
That’s why I have gotten many hours of joy out of the Director’s Edition DVD. They fixed alot of needed fixing…the matte paintings, etc…and a proper sound mix. It’s amazing what a few changes like that will do to enhance and complete a film. It’s my preferred version of TMP, if I catch a little of the theatrical (or “extended”) cut..it’s kind of jarring now. Yes it’s what I grew up with, but I think the DE really seals the deal on that movie for me.
What’s a shipyeard?
Is it a contraction for Ship, you heard?
Is it a ship from year D?
Is it, like, some old pirate saying all run together? “Ya, I’ll ship ye ‘ard, matey.”
Just wondering.
I have gotten emails from MalakO and Greatbatch:
Greatbatch:
Hello Mel,
I haven’t simply been called ‘Greatbatch’ since I was a school boy. Some of the people emailing me about my strange markings post have very good handles so I’m thinking of
making one up for myself, my wife came up with one but it is far too anatomical and not very accurate! I digress! The ‘craft’ I saw was dark, squarish or rather wedge shaped with
small ‘fins’ protruding from it. It was like a large piece of cheese with feet! It may simply have been a bus, up-ended with shards of metal coming from it, perhaps fallen from a
military air craft? But I’m not wholly convinced of this.
Are you anywhere near Oxfordshire? You can simply see the site and the markings for yourself, it is quite easy to find the field.
I’m attaching a higher resolution photograph.
best,
Geoff
MalakO:
Salut- always alive, thank you
And Greatbatch also send me a better picture of the crash site. You can see the white markings there very clear.
Sorry, wrong thread. ;-)
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Vulcan was just renting the moons during TMP. Turns out they didn’t like them.
I don’t ever remember Kirk mentioning that he got to wear pajamas during the Kobayashi Maru test.
Hey – what ever happened to British Naval Dude?
Iactually think the moons were just visting Vulcan while they passed through the stellar neighborhood, like Moonbase Alpha did every week, and we know that was scientifically accurate.
#114 “Hey – what ever happened to British Naval Dude?”
He got beamed into the pipes in engineering.
Also, that’s a pretty advanced electrical plant he’s riding through there, nice “transformers” and everything.
Mmmm…. Anton Yelchin…. John Cho… Chris Pine…. I’m afraid I won’t be able to pay attention to the story because I’ll be too busy perving over all the eye candy….
There are times where being in the minority is never a good thing… like, being the last person on Earth?
New Narada imagery on joinstarfleetacademy.com!
It’s in the V CAST Holodeck section under “Exclusive Romulan Images”
Click on the links of the models – look at the first one.
What is up with the drooping nacelles?
They aren’t horizontal but angle downward.
This appears to be the case in other model images I’ve seen
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoninhollywood/3426766560/sizes/l/
What the heck is going on here?
The Enterprise now has nacelles that tilt downward?
@121 I think that is a fault by the modell… because every Enterprise has her nacelles somewhere else tilted ;)
#10 – I agree – I fell in love with the original 60s show and the rest pale by comparison. The rest of you lay off – we are entitled to our opinion as well. I’ll enjoy the movie – but it’ll never replace or even come close to the original experience – sort of like your first real love with a girl….
#123—And that’s what makes you more stable than our Korean dictator friend.
Of course it won’t “replace” or rival the original experience.
I was a child then (1970’s syndication). Nothing I experience more than 30 years later is going to affect me in the same way.
But I expect to like it far more than I liked the 24th Century spinoffs.
It was great, after the watching the new movie I went home and put on Amok Time, then I watched Enemy within and it was like watching a sequel.
Not that we go back to the original time line, but these younger characters made so much sense that it fleshes out the TV show characters even more, regardless of the design differences.
I’m telling you all:
This movie is too engaging to let you worry about the surface details. Maybe walking home you may start to debate with other or yourself the differences pro and con, but while watching the film, you’re just too caught up in what Spock or Kirk or Uhura or Chekov will do next.
#123 I envy you so….
I was born in 1984…5 years to late for TMP in theateres and 2 years too late for TWOK
I know that TMP wasn’t the greatest Star Trek film…I don’t hate it as much as most, but I do know that it was an incredibly hyped movie premiere, and I wish I could have been there…I started watching Trek with TNG, and worked my way backwards…the only films I saw in theatres were the dissapointing Generations and the snooze-fest/overbloated T.V. episode known as Insurrection…so in many ways, even though I have teeny-tiny insignificant worries about this film, this is Dec. 1979 for me.. I want to go all out and make this an event, and totally embarass my wife in the process!
And by the way, Anton Yelchin is a great actor…I am only more excited about seeing Urban as McCoy…last year I ananlyzed Yelchin’s film “Charlie Bartlett” for an English class, and he was just great…he’s funny, and he’s got the Chekhov spunk, so he’ll do just fine!
“Name…Chekhov, Pavel…
Rank…ADMIRAL!”
125….”Maybe walking home you may start to debate with other or yourself the differences pro and con, but while watching the film, you’re just too caught up in what Spock or Kirk or Uhura or Chekov will do next.”
Right….the speed and story of the film will distract from the problems. That’s a given. Stories do that…and the speed of this one, in addition to the edits, camera work and flares help distract viewers from continuity issues. The still images and small clips we have already seen are better estimates about our individual reactions and the film’s design problems. Easier to judge without the rollercoaster effect.
127. McCoy
Yeah, ummm… No. Dead wrong. Its called a good story. Usually when you have a good story with good characters, you don’t give a rat’s ass what the stuff looks like. Its all background that serves as the setting. Yeah, the speed of the movie makes it hard to look at the little design details, but that’s not what our friend here is saying. What he’s saying is that you get sucked into the story so much that you don’t pay attention. And what problems are you referring to? If you are saying that all the problems with this movie involve your personal dislike of the production design, then no, those are not problems. They’re your problems. And my friend, the continuity, whether you choose to accept it or not, has already been explained away and according to those who have seen it, is explained perfectly within the movie. The movie is good. Get over it. Stop trying to convince people that this movie sucks and don’t say that’s not what you’re doing. If you didn’t have a purpose to your statement, then you would not have said it at all.
And just for you info:
-The movie currently has a 100% at rotten tomatoes
-All the fans who have seen the movie like it
-All who were suckered into seeing it and had no plans to loved it
Shall I continue?
Its a good movie. I haven’t seen it, but considering I have read about 43 reviews so far, all positive, then yes, I think its safe to say the movie is at least halfway decent.
Your arguable friend,
THE GOVERNATOR
codename: Gd846c3
(here ends tirade)
If you believe this movie will ruin you, ruin Trek, cause the collapse of (this) universe or just generally will suck… please, stay home.
There will be no one coming to your door begging or forcing you to attend.
@39 (SweetLode):
“So is the motorcycles wheels independent from the body? Look at the picture, it’s blowing my mind! Did someone say it was a BMW?”
The wheels are attached, though unconventionally. This is a popular motif among industrial design students, referred to as the “hubless” look. Motor energy is (in theory) relayed by a smaller, offset mechanism. The original conceit was purely graphical, eliminating the clutter of hubs and spokes, freeing the elegance and strength of true circles. The form becomes sculptural, appearing to float. To my knowledge, such has never made it to the silver screen, before — despite many, many hopeful submissions by concept artists!
Love the dossiers!
@ #56: a rascal…dropKirk…bawaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaahaha!
BTW –
I just scored passes to an advance screening this coming Monday!!!!
w000000000000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
56. HesDeadJim – April 23, 2009
@10 you know I have to say that while I’m sure even people who are as excited as this film as I am have their own personal doubts, there are trolls like you who take it to a new level
You and your beetle-browed friends are more than free to post your nitpicking here, from the comfort of your parent’s basement
And when the film comes out, feel free to light up all the trek BBSs about every single irrelevant mistake you’ve come across
But so help me God, if one of you disgusting obese fanboys disrupts by movie going experience, I will put the dropKirk on your fat ass so hard that you seriously better hope that your parents can afford to buy you a Rascal (although most of you are probably already in one)
Ahh..thats better
VIva La Trek!
114: I thought I was the only one who thought that Kirk’s Kobyashi Maru outfit looked like thermal jammies. I’d like to see a pan-shot, do they have the ‘footies’ on them too?
Also, the Vulcan skyscrapers look like they could use a pressure-cleaning
The more I see Zoe Saldana as Uhura, the more I think she is absolutely scrumptious!
Where in the world can I buy one of those rings?
The basic story line & actors do work, but there’s no time to get how the characters relate to each other. Plus the new 1701 is in a shot so briefly, it doesn’t project mass or solidly like the others. Very strange how the ‘ Kobayashi Maru ‘ simulator had a bridge that made more sense. On the new 1701, the incredibly bright lighting (floor ? back wall light bulbs ?) would wash out the work station screens. And why is the forward screen so monstrous, showing stretched-out images ? And the pipes & out of proportion antiquated engine (nothing’s ID’d)
Action ? Yes. Establishing the crew ? OK. After that, well . . .