Star Trek Brings In $7 Million Thursday Night + Online New Ticket Buyer Polling Data May 8, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
The critics love it and the fans love it (based on our current poll), so the big question remaining is, will the rest of the film going audience love it. We won’t know that until the weekend is over, but the numbers are in for Thursday and they are very good. Star Trek racked up $7 million dollars last night in domestic tickets sales. More below, including interesting polling data from the online sales sites.
A big Thursday
Star Trek’s early shows on Thursday night were a hit, with Variety reporting it brought in $7M from the 7PM-midnight shows. To put that in context, last May Paramount opened Iron Man with some early Thursday shows and it brought in a bit over $4M, but went on to rake in a total of $98 Million for its opening weekend, and went on to be the the second highest grossing film of the year with $318 Million domestically. Also last weekend Wolverine kicked off its huge weekend with $4M from just midnight shows on Thursday (although Wolverine played in 6.5% more theaters than Trek).
This is all good news for Paramount as day 1 was a success, but these are only tea leaves. Last night was the fan base going out in force, but the real test will be the main movie going audience for this weekend and then to see if the film has ‘legs’ going into the rest of the summer facing off against Angels and Demons next weekend and Terminator 4 the weekend after that.
The Variety report had this note of caution:
Based on tracking, Par, along with some of its rivals, doesn’t expect "Star Trek" to come close to "Iron Man’s" opening gross, or even the $85 million earned by "Wolverine" last weekend. Nonetheless, a number of films have overperformed in recent months.
STAR TREK polling data
Both of the big online ticket sales sites have shared their recent polling data with TrekMovie.com
Fandango polls Trek fans
Online ticketing site Fandango has been running an online poll of Trek Ticket buyers. 91% of those who chose to take the poll consider themselves Trek fans (note: most ticket buys do not participate in the optional poll). Fandango has given TrekMovie and exclusive look at the data those who participated in the poll AND said they consider themselves Star Trek fans:
Here is out the Trek fans break down:
Demographics:
- sex:
69% male /
31% female - age: 20% 18-24 /
26% 25-34 /
42% 35-49 /
12% other
Levels of Trek fandom (question: what of the following have you participated in?) :
- 78% purchased Trek on DVD
- 57% purchased Trek Toy or collectible
- 51% Read Trek novel
- 37% Read Trek comic book
- 33% Attended convention
- 7% written fan fiction
Favorite Star Trek movie:
- 38% II
- 16% FC
- 13% IV
- 6% GEN
- 6% VI
- 5% NEM
- 5% TMP
- 5% III
- 3% INS
- 3% V
Favorite series:
- 43% TNG
- 33% TOS
- 9% DS9
- 9% VOY
- 6% ENT
More facts
- 28% will take time off work/school
- 10% will go in costume
- 37% going with friend(s) / 26% with family / 23% date / 10% solo
- 36% answered ‘yes’ to if they are ‘upset William Shatner is not in Star Trek’
MovieTickets data: high awareness with women
Also MovieTickets.com has been conducting an online poll of female ticket buyers (Apr. 21 – May 3) and 52 percent are aware of the film “Star Trek” with 63 percent of those aware of the film intend to see “Star Trek” opening weekend. According to MovieTickets, this is the highest pre-release polling numbers for females at MovieTickets.com for 2009
Additionally, the film is tracking well across all age groups at MovieTickets.com, save 60-plus. Three of the five age groups polled Apr. 21 – May 3 boasted intent to see opening weekend numbers over 70 percent, including 25-34s (70%), 35-44s (76%) and 45-59s (78%). Under-25s are currently at 58 percent, while 60-plus is at 11 percent.
Star Trek is also No. 1 on MovieTicket.com’s moviegoers list of the next movie they intend to see in theaters. It’s tops for males, females, Under-25s, 25-34s, 35-44s and 45-59s. It’s second amongst 60-plus, behind “Angels & Demons.”
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Not bad for day one…..JJ has no doubt done something right!
Yes!
… still disappointed.
I for one plan on seeing it every day this weekend at least once, if not twice.
Okay, so the accountants have paid Nimoy, Cho, Yelchin, some of the extras and the folks at ABC for letting them advertise during Lost. Not bad for what amounts to 3 showings
Already watched it three times and going to see it some more ;)
That’s an encouraging figure for a five-hour span, I think…
I’m cautiously optimistic that the movie will be able to match, if not exceed, the opening-weekend numbers for Wolverine.
Either way, I’m sure this will do better in terms of repeat viewers. :)
#3
About what?
Just came back from the movie about an hour ago. Wow, what an amazing ride! I plan on seeing it at least two more times.
oh look its made more than nemesis already :P (joke)
I saw it a second time to show my support.
I think it will be a big hit… people are ready for a truly exciting and epic space movie after the letdowns of the SW prequels. And Trek is only fulfilling the potential it always had, stepping back in to fill the gap.
H-town is representing (15 in my group) Friday, 9:55 p.m., Edwards Marque IMAX, Katy Freeway (sold out!). I’ll have a “Trekmovie.com Houston Chapter” on me. ;-)
I am going to see it again this weekend. I think good word of mouth will sell this baby, ultimately. Especially the younger generation, as the older non-trekkers will be more entrenched in their views of its geekness. The younger kids will not be as prejudiced, me thinks.
Woo-hooo!
But, how many theaters is Trek in compared to Wolverine?
i live beside the tallest cinema in europe…and i went there today to discover only ONE Star trek poster outside while they had about 15 wolverine ones everywhere…majorly disappointing.
i have made my contribution, and loved it!!! Live long and prosper Star Trek!!!
I was at Cerritos “Edward’s Theater” CA last night. They did not advertise but there was a small crowd in attendance. I liked the movie. It was cannon and new at the same time. All of the actors were believable and held the screen when needed. The action was there ALL of the time and I didn’t see any lack if interest.
I see this beginning a new run of Movies (or maybe a TV series?).
Saw it last night. Loved it. Was thoroughly entertained. Very subdued audience though, no clapping or cheering =(
Acting was awesome! But someone should have fixed Leonard Nimoys dentures. They seemed a bit loose.
I hope it makes a ton of money. I want to see more!
Saw it Thursday night, crowd wasn’t that big. Saw it again @ noon today, crowd was bigger. Oh & I LOVED it, great movie. Bob Orci if you’re reading, thank everyone for a great ride.
I saw it this morning with my brother. All our apprehensions and misgivings were largely allayed and we both enjoyed ourselves a lot. For all the changes, it very much felt like Star Trek. It was great to see Leonard Nimoy again and the new cast is very good. The clips shown in commercials and trailers don’t do them justice and they need to be seen within the context of the film to be appreciated. I have to especially tip my hat to Chris Pine, for subtly working in some of Shatner’s mannerisms into his role; Zachary Quinto for beautifully walking the tightrope between Spock’s human and Vulcan halves; and especially Karl Urban for channeling the late DeForest Kelley without ever falling into parody. All three did a great job and the chemistry between them was clearly visible and felt genuine. Looking forward to seeing this movie again (hopefully before the weekend is out) and eventually getting it on BluRay. I hope the mainstream audiences embrace it; I’d love to see more adventures with this cast.
Bravo to JJ Arams, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzmann and everybody else involved. You guys did a great job and I’m extremely happy to say that I was wrong in doubting your ability to make a good Star Trek movie.
Hmmm. 7 milion? Is that good? To be honest, in my country, I watched in a barely half full theater.
Picard
Trek is actually in fewer theaters than Wolverine it is around 3850 vs 4100
I’ve seen the movie yesterday and it was simply awesome… I feel like I’ve been inside the nexus and the only thing on my mind is going back!
But here in Belgium there seems to be almost no promotion for the movie. I still haven’t seen any Star Trek posters, while there were posters for Wolverine almost everywhere…
hey if you don’t like the idea of this film, just at it as a necessary evil.
if this fails theres no chance of a tng or ds9 revival and thats the end of this series period, I grew up with tng, ds9 in the 90’s and the star trek films and I don’t want it to die just because of Rick Berman’s insistance on techno babble, boring characters and ugly uni collored sets,
besides if we hate it JJ will read our opinions on it and make sure NOT to make the same mistakes like Rick did and drag it on for 4 movies, two tv shows and two ugly ships (granted I did like the look of voyager and the enterprise e looked good from the top)
This is great knowing that last night did so well. I saw it last night at the 10:00 showing in Houston, and I have a group of 12 going tonight to the Alamo Drafthouse in Katy. Whoop!
This movie is just an amazing experience, and I really hope it does something close to how Wolverine did last weekend (or dare I say better???)
I saw it last night at 7 in Iowa City, (twenty mi from Riverside). Unfortunately the theater was only a quarter or third full. Apparently they didn’t do a lot of advertising for the early showings. But there was an at least seven foot tall poster for the movie right at the doorway.
I’m hoping to see the movie at least 20 times in the theater. I’m planing to see it again tonight, have already made plans to see it tomorrow with a friend, and am taking my Mom there for Mother’s Day the day after. (My Mom is a total Trekkie and the one Who got me into Star Trek. Also, we went to the showing last night together.)
#23
So twice as much money in fewer theatres? That’s great news!
by the way im going to go see it on tuesday in the middle of the afternoon, so its not going to be that full for me like with quantom of sollace, and the auto shops open, my parking boring characters broke after I came out at 11 at night!
by the way im going to go see it on tuesday in the middle of the afternoon, so its not going to be that full for me like with quantom of sollace, and the auto shops open, my parking Brake broke after I came out at 11 at night!
sorry I’m still half awake
Saw it in a packed Imax on Thursday. This morning, I saw it again at a 10:30 am showing on a standard screen in a stadium-seating multiplex. The theater was only 1/4 full. Still, that’s slightly over 100 people during work-day hours. The same theater had rented out the whole auditorium for their 10:00 am show and the usher said that the 11:00 and 12:00 start times had about the same size crowd my showing did. As I left, people were lined up for the 12:30 and 1:00 shows.
Of course, the crowd wasn’t full of young hipsters and trendsetters. I was one of the more physically fit specimens in the room- and I go nearly 3 bills. Fashion quality was quite low, and judging by body language, I’m guessing a number of people in the room have first hand knowledge of the terror that is the swirly.
In the category of “you can’t make this stuff up,” two fellow viewers actually had to use their inhalers to calm their excitement when the big E got her glamor shot.
In other words, the joy of Abrams Trek has not yet spread beyond the nerd herd in my neck of the woods.
I saw it last night. I have 8 hours of teacher certification tests tomorrow, so I can’t go again today or tomorrow. Dammit.
I saw it last night, and was underwhelmed at the turn out! Less than 1/8 of the theater was full. Even so, we were an enthusiastic bunch :) Cheering, applause, and laughter abound!
Since it’s unlikely that we’ll get a TV series set in this new continuity (though I beg you to prove me wrong, JJ!), what’s the likelihood of original novels? There’s a heck of a lot of material to open for exploration…
I’m very conflicted about this movie, parts of me really liked it and there were parts I did not care for like parts of the story and some of the production. Overall, it is a very good Trek film and I’ll see it again to formalize my stance on it. Though, I am surprised, I think it’s a little overrated by many here. Best Trek, I don’t think so, though very good all the same.
SEVEN PERCENT of those who purchased tickets through Fandango have written Star Trek fanfic?
Holy CRAP.
I will going with som friends in Nashville to the 1:10 showing at the regal IMAX. I think fans have known about Thursday, but the mainstream media on TV – Leno, Letterman, Kimmel – all were talking on thier shows about how it opened Friday – when John Q Public gets their vote in.
Todays figures are great – We find out over the weekend if the regular public is going to buy in.
Iron Man made $5 million opening day, so this is a wonderful number for Star Trek.
I saw it last night in IMAX, and I very much enjoyed it overall. I have mixed feelings after getting over the high of seeing it. There are a few things that bothered me about it (still love it, but just scratching my head).
SPOILER ALERT.
It bothers me that old Spock didn’t want to go back to his time, prevent the black hole from happening in the first place and fix the timeline. It seems to me he would be very motivated to fix the timeline since the result of the black hole is the destruction of Vulcan, the early death of Kirk’s father and the early death of Spock’s mother.
The plot about Nero wanting to take the destruction of Romulus out on everyone immediately was hard for me to swallow for some reason, but I’ll take it. I was expecting something mind blowing based on the hype… but this enemy and plot were average to below average for Trek.
I thought the character development was excellent and the cast was near perfect. Checkov was a little annoying to me and slightly overdone, but I loved the rest of them. I was disappointed in the music which has always been a character in itself in the Trek movies. The melody was weak. It’s going to sound cheesy, but I wanted some hint of a Trek cue when the ship first appears, classic theme or Goldsmith. Oh well. We got it at the end.
I love that Abrams added more silliness and grit to Trek. The lighting and special effects made this film feel more real than any other Trek film. The special effects by far exceeded any Trek film to date, no doubt.
Spock’s ship looked like the underwater vessel from Star Wars Ep1. Some of the sound effects sounded like Star Wars too. The snow planet reminded me of Hoth… but I guess any ice planet would. The bigger animal eating the smaller animal also reminded me of Ep1. And Scotty’s little lizard friend reminded me of a cross between Guido and an Ewok.
I can’t really rate this film on a 1 to 10, because it’s so different. I will say that in the hours after seeing it, I put it 4th behind Khan, First Contact and Voyage Home. The special effects, camera shots and direction were the best of any of the films in my opinion. But the plot problems kept me from being completely blown away. I’ll be curious to see if the next film (who are we kidding, there will definitely be another one) will attempt to fix the timeline, or if they’ll continue in the alternate reality so they won’t have to worry about continuity and cannon. The sad thing is if they fix the timeline, these wonderful moments of meeting the characters in this way will be nullified. I think Abrams is trying to say that we’ll meet our destiny regardless of whether history is changed… but anyway, I guess we’ll have to see the next movie before casting final judgment.
Sorry for the babbling. I’m going to see it again next week, so maybe my thoughts will change. Some of the exposition was spit out so fast, I might have got some of it completely wrong.
32. I saw a very normal mix of people. A lot more younger people than I expected. I’m also a very fit “specimen”.
I wonder why we all take this so personally. I do too. If the movie isn’t the biggest hit since Lord of the Rings, I feel a bit sad even though I haven’t even seen it yet. Do we need to share the joy to feel it?
I’m going on Saturday with a bunch of people. Can’t do those midnight shows anymore. Those are fueled on caffeine and sugar. Not for me. I do plan to see it again on Monday.
Saw it a second time today, again in IMAX, the 1:30PM show. Theater was 95 to 100% full. Might have been a few empty seats in the first couple of rows. Enjoyed it even more the 2nd time. The audience seemed to skew younger than last night. More 20-somethings this time around. Good reactions again, especially to some of the material aimed more to the ‘mainstream’ crowd. I tried to remember to look for some things I missed the first time around (tribble, MBR’s computer voice), but I was so wrapped up in the adventure that I usually forget to check. I think that’s a good sign!
I saw it in London on the IMAX there to a full cinema at 3pm GMT. I feel like I can’t compare it to the other films as it isn’t like them in any way, all the others feel slow and slugish next to this. It’s isn’t the best but it is very good, all I say is roll on the next one.
Spoiler Talk:
@ Dubb in #39,
Old Spock never had the chance. Nero took his ship right off the bat, then his younger self did what he did. Old Spock was stuck.
Besides, given the nature of a multiverse, Spock Prime’s Vulcan was unharmed by the destruction of Spock 2.0’s Vulcan
I saw it last night at 11PM. Enjoyed it ! I could have used less shakey cam actions shots though. I was a bit dizzy at the end credits. Perhaps I’m just getting old.
@43-
I missed the tribble both times myself. MBR’s voice is most noticeable when Kirk is waking up in the pod on Delta Vega.
I’ve written a review (kinda spoiler filled though)
http://charliebob(dot)livejournal.com
feel free to let me know what you think :)
I went to both the premier of Wolverine last week and Star Trek this week in my local theater in rural Iowa…. Theater was about 3/4s full for both premiers Star Trek got the best croud reaction… Esp. when the Iowa scenes came up.. A local comic book shop was having a costume contest and 1 person showed up dressed as Admiral Kirk that was it.. although when i was coming out of the first showing I saw a bunch of people dressed up
I just got off the phone with my brother, also an old Trekkie (we don’t call ourselves Trekkers).
He and his wife had this to say about it:
“…blown away….”
“….don’t know how a sequel can top it…”
“…loved Scotty’s brogue….”
“….was by far the best of all Trek movies…”
“….just incredible, incredible….”
“….the cinematography was off the chart….”
He was there in 1966 right along with me, watching the Salt Vampire and Charlie X, still in his diapers.
He and his wife will be seeing it again along with her dad this weekend.
My wife and I will be going again tonight or Sunday at the matinee.
@39:
SPOILER ALERT
Spock didn’t want to go back to his timeline to prevent the destruction of Vulcan because he read TrekMovie’s write-up on alternate realities. Vulcan still exists in the prime timeline, and his departure to “fix” things would not have altered Vulcan in the new timeline.
I disagree with you (and most fans) about Checkov. I actually think his performance was one of the more refreshing surprises of the movie. In the show, he was just short Russian who was arrogant about his home country and low on the fist-fighting skills. The whole savant angle adds depth to him.
Finally, I can’t disagree with you (and most fans) more about wanting to see sequels “correct” the timeline. I, for one, am relieved that these stories can be retold with a genuine level of suspense. Honestly, I think the major question for the sequel will be which of the caracters will get killed or permanently altered. It’s excitin’!
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The polling data for last night’s screening has to be off. There’s no way 3% said Star Trek V was their favorite of the series unless they were rolling their eyes of had the stench of alcohol on their breath.
SMALL SPOILERS
Just got out of the morning IMAX and was blown away. I was amazed at the number of little homages in the film to the canon, from Vger to the Farragut to Admiral Komack to the wheelchair for Pike. I can see where they could have had a small part for the Shat in the mind meld or perhaps s montage of scenes from the earlier films but that would have been lost on the mainstream audience. Karl Urban wwas MoCoy. he must have been channeling De Kelly or been possessed by his spirit. Need to see again in a widescreen to compare. This film had the best production values since STTMP and it was all on the screen. It will not last as the cast salaries grow in time.
@39…
Spock Prime has no way return to his universe… it was a one way trip through the event horizon. And he has a new task at his hands…
“3% V”
Shoot them.
D’oh! Just got back from what was supposed to be my IMAX viewing (saw it last night in regular), and the goofballs at the Metreon in San Francisco had to CANCEL the IMAX viewing this morning!!! They’d double booked the theatre with a corporate event. Oh well, got a refund and a free ticket, so saw it again in theatre #15, ha HA!
But I really want to see this in IMAX. I’ve never seen anything but a short documentary in IMAX, this is going to be my first real motion picture in the format.
Guess I’ll have to see it again… tomorrow… SIGH!!
@50…
There will be no fooling around with the timeline in the sequels.
It’s the Orciverse now!
This movie is exciting, hilarious, fun and amazingly done.. Good jobs J.J… Really appreciate you do this movie!! i don’t love star trek that much before because the past star trek movie always kind of talking, slow pace and nothing new. However this movie, might bring me to star trek fan club… hahahahahah
Overall this movie, to is 5/5… Wowww… really excited.. I don’t know what it is.. may be special effect, the score, the actors.. i don’t know everything look perfectly done.. No scrath at all along the moving… Congratulation again!!
Saw the movies last night. All 3 shows in my local IMAX (MA) were sold out. I loved the movie, my wife (a trek hater) loved the movie. Crowd cheered and clapped all the time. We have tickets to go again tomorrow, with a group of friends, all non-fans.
I found an emotional investment in the film from the start. I owe this in paart to James Cawley and ST PII/NV. His work helped prepare me for seeing new actors in the roles. Otherwise it would have been a little harder to deal with so than you James and the the rest of the crew of Star Trek Phase II.
The Countdown comic help a lot as well to quickly grasp the plot
Well, aside from anything else; a lot of people get hung up I think on coming up top, making number one, breaking records, like if it doesn’t it fails. But really, even if it didn’t it could still be profitable, popular and the like.
I’ve seen people saying ‘it won’t beat ___, it won’t make ___ place, it’ll fail!’ as though any film other than the no.1 for its month is never heard of again lmao.
32. Captain Otter – May 8, 2009
“In the category of “you can’t make this stuff up,” two fellow viewers actually had to use their inhalers to calm their excitement when the big E got her glamor shot.”
I LOL’ED hard at that. I can see people doing that. The theatre I went to was only about 1/4 full, and I only saw 1 or 2 people in the random TOS uniform, but the reaction seemed pretty good. I’m going tonight again I think, so that I can see how full the theatre is and enjoy the movie again ;)
What on Earth will the next film be titled? Star Trek 2, 12, Star Trek 2245. That’ll be a fine hurtle.
Those demographics are stunning, bizarro even! 7% fan fiction? TNG the favorite show? Skewed in my age range (43)? And TMP near the bottom?
Of course, I have to say the data is suspect. “10% going in costume”??? Ha, I’m here in San Francisco. 10% of us seem to live in costume. And I be surprised if I saw a total of 10 people in costume between last night’s showing and this mornings. And no one looked like they were writing fanfic while standing in line ;)
SPOILER DISCUSSION!!
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The only thing SpockPrime could possibly do is time travel back to when the Narada arrives at the Kelvin, and destroy it right off and save the Kelvin by preventing the battle. Basically, though… he’s stuck in an alternate reality. I guess all he can do is father new Vulcans and teach Kirk how to play chess. ;-)
@44 and 55… Maybe I just need to stop thinking about it so much, but that’s kind of like saying Picard’s efforts to keep the borg from assemilating the earth in the past was a waste of time, because once they stopped the borg, they immediately created an alternate reality… and so when they went back to their present time — they came back to an alternate reality.
My head is going to explode!
Anyway, like I said, I loved the movie overall. I’ll see it again. Hopefully a second viewing will fill some of the plot holes for me.
How is 7 million good?
I went to a 7pm thurs showing and I was one of twenty people there,as was the case with many other posters.
…also, can’t Spock just get a ship and slingshot around the sun!!!
After 2 viewings, my ratings of the ‘characters’ are:
Enterprise (exterior), A+
Spock, A
Scotty, A
Kirk, A-
McCoy, A-
Pike, A-
Spock Prime, A-
Chekov, B+
Nero, B
Uhura, B-
Sulu, B-
Amanda, B-
Sarek, B-
For both Scotty and Chekov, although they were played mostly for laughs I also got the impression that both men are geniuses in their field and are extremely competent, if quirky, Starfleet officers.
Oh, and the shot of the Enterprise emerging from warp, phasers blasting, is my all-time favourite shot of the Big E.
@64…
What happened, happened Dubb!
;))
I got interviewed by “Good Morning America’s” weekend edition in NYC before the 7pm showing last night. I stayed with the party line, and said, as a Trek fan since 1972, I have been paying attention, and hope JJ and his writers have achieved the perfect balance between what will appeal to people like me, and new fans.
The guys said “set your TIVO” but I have low hopes. If you see a guy named “Andrew” in a blue LaCoste shirt, that’s AJ.
The film is absolutely fantastic.
what was the V’ger reference? and where was the tribble – this was what the Starwars prequels should have been.
@69… good job, AJ!
But I am not sure about the shirt…
Seen it last night at 7pm and im still on a high. Will be seeing it again at the imax on Sunday. What an incredable Movie. Words can’t describe how this movie is so great. As a Trek Fan since 1975 im so stoked for another Movie already. So bring on the next movie next year ok. We just can’t wait.
By the way. The Music was fantastic for the Movie. Michael did a fantastic job on the Music and the end credits music was very touching and very well done. Way to go Michael. I have been playing that in my head all day and of corse with a little help with youtube.
Going to see it tonight! If only I had a Star Trek T-shirt…
Wow what a great movie that was, I just got back from watching it for the first time. Although it still has to sink in, I think Abrams did something great here and he REALLY left it open for sequels. They can really take it in any direction they want right now, but have the ability to do some great stuff.
Saw it last night at a midnight screening — IMAX. Will see it again.
Three words: Oh. My. God.
:-)
Saw it this morning at 9:45am. There was *maybe* 20 people in the theater seeing it with me.
MINOR SPOILERS –
The things I was kinda put off about:
The whole industrial boiler room look of the Enterprise Engineering section. I mean, at least make it look industrial-tech to match the rest of the ship not like the engineering section of the Titanic. I worked on the Kelvin because it is an older ship, but it didn’t *fit* right for me.
Windshields on a starship…while it was cool they had the head up display of the viewscreen, the climax showed just how dangerous it can be having windshields on the bridge of a starship.
The whole deal of how of everyone getting to be just where they are supposed to be Sulu at the Helm, Chekov at Nav, etc. but I suppose they needed everyone in place in one movie for the inevitable sequels.
My take on the whole destruction of Vulcan/death of Spock’s mother deal was it made it an evening out of sorts between the Prime Universe and the Alternate Universe. Prime, Romulus is destroyed and Nero’s wife along with it, Alternate Universe Vulcan is destroyed and Spock’s mother along with it. Each lost their home world (one by random events in the Prime Universe the other as an act of revenge) and someone they loved, each now shares the pain (although, Delta Vega must be the Vulcan moon in the Alternate Universe as Prime Vulcan supposedly didn’t have a moon depending on which writer was scripting that particular movie/episode…which is the whole arguement against canon…canon was tweeked depending on convenience of moving along a specific plot in a specific movie or episode).
I think, overall, this whole changed reality (nice explained by New Spock) opens up a vast new realm of possibilities in a franchise that had grown stale (after much contemplation, yes I accept that fact of staleness). We may not like everything about what unfolded, but it was one hell of a ride! Time to either let go of the past and embrace the new possibilities or clutch the old and stay away…I hope more people let go and enjoy the new hotness.
I was in a state of shock when I left the theater and was not overall happy at first, but now that the shock has worn off and I look back at it, this new Trek deserves our support and recognition and as many second, third and fourth viewings!
I hate feeling empty when I come out of a movie. This was NOT the case with Star Trek. It was a fast thrill-ride with romance, comedy, suspence, drama, action, and a sense of scope rarely seen in movies today.
I got misty-eyed during the opening, then was overwhelmed with Giachinno’s music during the main title. Forget that this was a Star Trek film. It was a GREAT film. Period.
My favorite scene was the David Lean-like crane shot of people running out of the Academy – revealing the scope of the Golden Gate Bridge and 23rd century San Francisco.
I left any problems I might have with plot and science at the door. I wanted to be entertained; indeed, it surpassed my expectations. The packed IMAX theater resounded with laughter and applause, and I am very proud of Paramount’s and J.J.’s efforts.
I look forward to seeing Trek a few more times. I hope the general public will give it a chance. And to the Trek fans who hate the film, I should think you would be grateful that the chance for more films and T.V. series has increased greatly.
My one regret – I didn’t have anyone to take with me.
I went and seen it again today and i am still blown away by this movie! This movie truelly brings the spirit of trek back to the basics! I absolutely loved all the characters and cant waite to see whats next for this new crew!
#77
Re: The new timeline– Yeah, my buddy and I were talking about it afterwards and certain things could come back in this new timeline- like V’Ger for one- and the Whale Probe- that’s fodder for the fans, never a realistic story for a new movie of course. But I think the secondary market of books and comics have a great opportunity to explore these familiar stories in new ways.
@58, That’s a great sentiment, and one I happen to share. It’s nice to have two different avenues to further enjoy the adventures of characters I’ve come to dearly love.
Too bad Lucas couldn’t figure out how to do ‘that’ when he made the recent trilogy. Your actors and dialogue aren’t things you cut out to make room for special effects. It’s still all about the characters :)
Saw it with my nephew at 10am sharp (his parents let him ditch school). His review: “Best. Movie. Ever.” Of course, he’s 11 and says that every weekend during summer movie season, but that’s hardly the point…
…the point is this morning I got to enjoy being 42 and 11 again, at the same time, and neither of me felt short changed :)
oh, another thing I liked, we finally got to see a strong captain of a ship not named Enterprise! Usually captains of ships not named Enterprise are weak, mamby-pamby, how in the hell did you ever get command of a ship in the first place, kind of folks…not so with Captain Robau! Kudos on that JJ, Orci, Kurtzman!
52. Brent
what was the V”ger reference? I didn’t catch that in the theater.
Saw a 1:45 showing (first of the day) and the theater was almost full. Loved the movie. The only thing I didn’t like was Scotty’s little “Ewok” friend or whatever he was. The production values of this Trek are better than any other ST movie by far (thanks for the $150 million budget).
I’m prediction about $65 million to open but not much staying power, despite it being a great movie. Angels and Demons and Terminator IV are going to really bite into the audience. I’m hoping it pulls in at least $150 million and it should, but I doubt it will get much above $200 million in the U.S. Just don’t get your hopes up for a big box office blockbuster is all I’m saying.
I saw Wolverine last week and that movie pales in comparison to Trek. I only wish the box office would reflect the very positive reviews for this film.
PS – I couldn’t make out what Uhura’s first name was near the end. Can someone help me with that one?
@61…My money is on:
Star Trek: Dos Equis
Stay thirsty and prosper, my friend.
All the IMAX showings are sold out today in Montreal.
Two and half hours….My wait is “almost” over.
I want this movie to break ALL records, I hope everyone goes back to see it 2,3,4 more times. I can’t wait to see the BO numbers on Sunday.
I went to the 7pm show IMAX last night in Orlando. WE got there at 5:30, and there was already a line. Show was sold out, as was the next one. Crows seemed to be a mix of old fans and the curious. Only a few costumes. But the crown really got into it! Lot’s of clapping, especially for the Big E and Nero’s destruction! Seemed like a good time.
I really liked it, but I admit there are some thing s that are going to take some time to get used to. The funny part was I wasn’t sure about Pine, but I thought he did a great job! Overall al lot of fun, and I think I’ll have to see it a couple of more times just to really take it all in.
I just got home from seeing The Movie, and I have to say I was blown away! I love details, so I loved all the Easter eggs I spotted (Anthony, will a full list of them be published later?) I LOVED the acting! When an actor acts all the way to her eyelashes, it tells me she’s a great actor; when the barest tremble of his chin makes me weep, he’s a good actor; if his voice alone make me want to lay down at his feet, he’s a good actor. (Oops. TMI)
MINOR SPOILER!
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There’s just one think I have to double check when I go back to see it. DId Spock grab her ass??? Must have been one of those pointers ZQ picked up from LN….
#86. Sorry, no Dos Equis. I think Budweiser was a major sponsor here. Not only Did Uhura order a Classic Bud, they also shot the engine room scenes in the Bud brewery! All I could think of when I saw those tanks and gangplanks was, Damn! That’s a lot of beer!
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You’re a funny guy, thorsten. I like you, That’s why I’m gonna kill you last! ;-)
Seriously, it was a funny experience. I asked “Are you guys from Channel 5?” (there was a local van outside the cinema).
They said “No. Good Morning America. Weekend Edition. Set your TIVO.” or, in English, ‘no one watches us.”
I gave them a big blurb about JJ Abrams and his writers as an ambulance drove by. They cut it. When they resumed, they said “Say the thing about JJ Abrams again!”
I’m too sexy for my shirt!
85, it’s Nyota.
I just saw it…..WOW…..for me…these guys are Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, Chekov and Uhura and Sulu….
Bullseye JJ ! And Thank you….so many Star Trek in the movie..even in the details……I especially loved..
SPOILER…
Pikes wheelchair.
BUT WHERE WAS THE TRIBBLE? I DIDN’T CATCH IT..MUST SEE THE MOVIE AGAIN….
Can’t wait to see it! But staying clear of spoilers! lol. Gonna be tough cos I’m not seeing it til 15th May for my 19th bday. Im dragging as many friends who are willing to forgo 2 hours of revision and exam studying down to see it! haha. There’s bout 40 of us going, only me and one other guy have seen an episode or film b4! The girls wanna see it cos “Chris Pine is sooooooooooo HOT” the guys wanna see it cos “star trek’s cool”. Shows how good the promotion’s been here in the UK… last year, I wouldnt have been able to convince my housemates to watch an episode of “Sh*t Trek” on DVD.
Us youngsters will watch it… eventually. It’ll spread by word of mouth how good the film is! And remember we’ve all got exams and coursework to crack on with during May!
This is the first movie that I’ve ever paid to see twice.
heh, i thought Kirk was being a bit too casual on the kobyashi maru test and to go as far as chomping away on an apple all through it.
I just got it.
Reference to wrath of kahn when they’re all ‘marooned’ in the genesis cave and saavik is asking kirk how he beat the no win senerio. It is revealed he cheated as spock calls and tells them he’s ready to beam them up, and after taking a big bite of apple kirk says, “i don’t like to lose’.
Nice subtext or homage, whatever you wanna call it.
can’t believe i missed it at the time.
Would Shatner’s Kirk jump off a drilling platform and rescue Takei’s Sulu? Heehee!
I believe this is the first movie I’ve ever seen twice in one day. It was so worth it!!
I’ll see it again too!
#83 Thomas
The Vger reference is when The Narada opened up to accept Pike’s shuttle. The opening was similar to Vger opening up to take in the Enterprise. The Narada also emerged from a huge cloud like Vger
85: Nyota.
#97-
The apple reference I picked up on about fifteen seconds after Kirk starts eating it. Then I was like “Holy cow!” It was subtle and perfectly executed.
The Movie is a FAILURE for Star Trek- It is nothing more than a Parody of a true work of Science Fiction.
Star Trek Fans accepting the TOTAL LOST of all Past Stories are not True Star Trek Fans. You have just disgraced the creators, characters, actors, and technicians that spent decades giving you Roddenberry’s Vision.
If you have not noticed -There now is no Original Series, Next-Gen, Mirror Universe, or even a Wrath of Khan – They never happened. This New Movie Series will never show you those stories.
In order to create and steal for this development they took what once was created, and made it just go away. True Star Trek Fans will not fall for the lost of their History. In our minds it is that History that will exist in that Universe.
Paramount could have easily done a picture without destroying the stories that we gave them money for. But they went ahead and re-wrote time; our time by removing what we grew up with as if it never happened.
Believe what you want. There will be no next-generation of viewers if the old generation past does not exist.
Well – Live Long and Prosper – Oops can’t say that no more – for there is no Living Long when you can just Erase…..
SEMPER FI to the Original Vision.
[Very minor spoliage]
As my sons promised, they took me to an early showing of Star Trek while their wives babysat my wife. To bring all up-to-date, I was the guy who brought a lot of you back to earth when the move of Trek from December to May was being treated by a lot of people on the site like it was the end of the world.
My wife continues her battle against terminal cancer, and an early showing was just too much for her, therefore, we will all go again on Sunday afternoon after church, if she is up to it.
My sons liked it, perhaps even more than I did- I was the one who had to convince them to come see it in the first place.
I’m just an old-timer with reservations and I’ll always wax nostalgic about ‘old canon’.
What we saw was undeniably Star Trek; it just wasn’t exactly my Star Trek..
I guess that was the point all along.
One thing that disturbs me—– Enterprise is the only canon still in place, if Scotty’s lamenting Admiral Archer’s Prized Beagle is an indicator.
I’ve seen it twice, first last night at 7 p.m. at the AMC Palace 9 in Fort Worth, then this afternoon at 1:15 p.m. at the Premiere Cinema in Burleson. The 7 o’clock show had about 75-100, but I was surprised the show at 1:15 had the same amount. No one clapped or cheered, but there was plenty of laughter at the numerous “in-jokes”.
I thought the movie was OK. I am still a little baffled at the role of Spock Prime, but overall the plot made sense and I had no problem “going with the flow” throughout the movie. There are a few other nitpicks I could offer, but overall I’m satisfied to see it once, now twice, and I might even sneak in a third show on Sunday.
Just got back from the IMAX screening in Glasgow with my 2 daughters 16 and 18 and my wife …..it was wonderful, what a rush!. My girls always take the mickey out of me (Dad) for being a trekkie but now the are wanting to watch the Wrath of Khan tomorrow on our cinema screen at home lol!
My oldest daughter 2 college friends are in the imax right now and just texted her to say they already love the film and its only 60 mins in!
I thought all the cast and crew did an amazing job injecting new blood and fun into the franchise! “Firing on all thrusters”!
A couple of things I noticed…
The tribble is in a cage on Scotty’s desk at the outpost.
Spock’s triangular chair in front of the circular window form the IDIC symbol.
The red ball and nokia ringtone are shouts out to Alias.
Greg Grunberg is the voice of Kirk’s stepfather.
The sign Kirk passes on his motorcycle says Sector 47, couldn’t make out the rest of it.
Uhura orders a Slusho, (Cloverfield reference)
@105…
All the best to your wife, Bob.
Just sent some pics of the Friday 18.30pm at the Glasgow Science centre IMAX showing the queue,Imax poster and signage to Anthony.. totally sold out and seems to be for the next few days!
Id say 70% were males ranging from 16 – 50 plus!
Also at last….Burger King here in the UK is doing the happy meal toys promo! And Toys r Us are selling all the toys etc.
#104 Semper Fi Wansor
All of those things DID happen. Old Spock still remembers them.
They just don’t happen in this parallel timeline.
Did you hate the episode “Mirror, Mirror”?
What about “Yesterday’s Enterprise”?
Lighten up Francis.
@93…
hehe, which reminds me of the interview I gave on the carpet after watching EP3 for years ago, and my blue hiking shirt. I explained Star Wars to the viewers of Pro7/Sat1 in 2 minutes, but never managed to grab a copy.
Natalie Portman was amazing that night.
104 – it baffles me that so called fans STILL don’t get it… i guess that’s life.
I saw it at the 7p show in Monroe Washington. Very few empty seats. Saw a gal there with pointy ears. Crowd cheered when young Kirk said his name. With 3 exceptions I loved it. Spoilers.
I had issues with the destruction of Vulcan and the death of Spocks mother. I also hated the engine room. Reminded me of a local brewery I once toured. Other than that loved it. Urban had McCoy down sowell, I had to shake my head to make sure it wasn’t De. Loved the Tribble on Delta Vega. Heard it first and started looking for it. Wife usually humors me when it comes to Trek and she said she wants to see it again. I tried to got to the Imax show today at Seattle Center, all showings sold out. Another Imax in Bellevue Washington had all shows except 405p sold out. Typing this on cell phone with ticket in pocket for that show. Never seen a movie in Imax before so looking forward to it again.
One thing i did hate was the product placement, Nokia! argghhhhhhh!
First time ive ever seen product placement in a ST film!
~104.. My you do need a life. I love my Trek, and in no way do I see this film as having removed what has happened from existing.. this story could only exist if that (first) timeline HAD existied in the first place.. I read what you say, and can’t help but think… Mmmmm you just didn’t get it did you..
George P. Wansor,
You are the reason the true fans get a bad name.
#111, It’s mind boggling that people are having a hard time grasping this concept.
All this stuff DID happen, or “will”… Just not in THIS reality.
Besides, why do you want to see these guys retell the SAME EXACT stories. You REALLY want Wrath of Kahn 2.0?
if you want some encouraging news about sales,,,i checked online and all imax showings for star trek in my area are sold out tru sunday….thank goodness i already reserved my tickets :-)
Canon became the rope that strangled Star Trek and killed it. We should be thanking JJ Abrams for resurrecting it.
SPOILER!
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Am I the only one who saw Pike’s wheelchair coming from a light-year away?
Best Trek movie since TMP. It’s deep and moving, definitely *not* a dumb action film. The characters are well depicted, they have passion and heart. This is Star Trek at its finest. And now, with this reboot, everything is possible and a fresh, new wind is blowing.
Last note: I *love* the industrial engineering. I love the old fashioned technology, fork lifts and so on. All these things *work*.
Mr. Abrams, Orci and crew: thank you all for bringing new life to my favorite franchise. I want more of this Trek.
Oh and Simon Peggs accent…spot on, it even had a East Lothian lilt to it….and I am Scottish BTW!
You know, what surprised me was how they really screwed things up for the “new” Trek universe. But I liked that. What I think is exceptionally cool is the direction they go with it now. Old Spock still exists. Maybe they can save Vulcan somehow. Maybe they can keep Nero from coming back in time. Perhaps we might see a crossing of THIS Trek with Next Gen Trek in a future movie.
Think about it this way: there is no way these actors will stay with many, many Trek movies. I would say 3 and out for most of them. I could see this being the beginning of a trilogy of Trek movies where they have to “correct” history and put back the original timeline. How cool would that be?
I am an old TOS fan and I thought this movie was GREAT! It was a little hyperkinetic and bombastic form my tastes (can the camera stop for just 1 second?), I really enjoyed it and felt that it was a worthy addition to Trek.
121. Christopher Valin
No.
Saw someone wearing a ‘Team Spock’ T-Shirt a today’s show. Good stuff.
Last night at 7:00 we had a group of six go see it and the audience was about 3/4 of the way full. My brother in PA is going tonight with a large group and I am going to see it with my dad on Tuesday night. Oh, and yes I did enjoy this movie greatly, and can’t wait to see it again.
Getting ready to see it again tomorrow :) I will be really dismayed if a turkey like Wolverine does better boxoffice then Trek.
In other news…QMX (Master Replica’s founder Steve Dymzo’s new company), who did the display models of the new ‘E’, has secured the rights for replicas for this new movie. With MRs recent announcement that they had to cancel their MkX Tricorders and their loss of the Star Wars license I think its safe to say that Master Replicas days are numbered. QMX will be doing a 3 ft lit ‘E’ and a 10″ desktop version along with other unannounced replicas.
I think the fact that we have Spock prime in the new time line gives rise to so much possibility.. and that can only be a good thing for our favourite franchise… I love this new film
I was wrong yesterday…and God said” let there be Trek,and it was Awesome!!!!!!……….I was so nervous going in…like meeting a stranger for the first time, not knowing what to expect….I was pleasantly surprised by the scope and grand vision…canon..who cares…I too am an old TOS fan and I LOVE this movie…I was like JJ said in an interview yesterday…after it was over I wanted to get in line again…like the best thrilling amusement park ride..and it was…non stop…go go go!!!…the characters shown through the action and special effects…
Karl’s, Bones was awesome.. I kept waiting to see Chekov in a comerical and never did, but the wait was well worth it!..He stold the show as well…Everyone got something to do and they were all exceptional in their own right…
And the big E herself really shined!!!..those awkward pictures they gave us at first were so misleading…she is a beauty!!!!…
And let’s not forget the man/ Vulcan…Mr Nimoy gave a grand performance as the elder Spock…
I still have questions…but I will see it a few more times and figure those out for myself…..
All and all I give it a 10! The Human Adventure has begun again!!!
\V/….
I started having an anxiety attack about 2/3 through the movie, I was having so much fun. Hardcore TREKKIE, seen all of everything, read the novels, done the experience (all of it, even the behind the scenes) ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. Seeing it again today. Fantastic. Just a great Sci-Fi movie. All the Star Wars nerds I saw it with last night LOVED it. Viva La Trek!
Lets just say: “its about time!”
The wait is over for this film and now we can hold out for the next film which I hope will take take 7 years to make.
That Fandango demographic data is interesting in that the audience skewed much older than the ad campaign target– at least among these ticket buyers. I had read someplace that Trek movies went older, so its success may well depend on serious fans, or those with series familiarity. I haven’t seen it yet but am “understandably curious”.
@36: Not quite. 7% of those who bought advance tickets on Fandango *and* bothered to complete the survey claim to have written fanfic.
Given that Anthony noted “most ticket buys do not participate in the optional poll,” the real-world (as if “real-world” applies to fanfic) number is likely far below the 7% captured in the survey.
#19 — Nimoy doesn’t have dentures. He has fixed upper and lower implant bridges. I’ve seen a picture of him looking at his cephalometric radiograph (part of his photography on his website). A person of Nimoy’s stature will not be wearing removable dentures.
From originator Post 104 (Of that this movie is a FAILURE)
Some of you have responded to my concerns that all of Star Trek from the Original Series on through is not lost. That this movie reflects a different time line, or reality.
I find it very convenient that when one wants something no matter how it was created, they eagerly accept what they got. THERE IS NO ALTERNATE TIMELINE. Spock did not go to another reality or mirror universe; he came back in his timeline, in his universe, to his people.
The question you have to ask yourself is – Would Gene Roddenberry remove from history his Original Series to do a prequel to it? NO HE WOULD NOT.
Questions are already being raised about this movie. Some I am looking forward to answer:
- Why did Nero attack Spock for trying to save his planet? I can see attacking someone after a failed attempt, but during the 1st attempt.
- With a Super Nova imminent or some other harm from the concern in his galaxy why did Nero not get his wife off the planet, Hmmmm, he had a ship?
- Why did Nero wait 24 years before Spock came through the Singularity? Could he have not gone home and helped avoided this future loss? (Sat in space for 20 some years – come on)
More questions are coming, not just by me but others who are critical of taking on this challenge of this re-vamped Star Trek. I will just wait and see.
128 YAY i want the 10 inch version :D :D :D :D love that ship – it was just stunning in the movie.
Excellent. More money please.
136 Wansor wrote “The question you have to ask yourself is – Would Gene Roddenberry remove from history his Original Series to do a prequel to it?”
If he thought it would be successful, yep.
Longtime fans have much more reverence for canon continuity than the producers ever did.
It’s still Kirk, Spock, stories, action, imagination, fun.
Saw it last night with 3 of my brothers. The theater was only about half full but there was some cheering and clapping and laughter in all the right places.
I loved that I, being a TOS fan who grew up watching TNG and my little bro who barely knows what a Vulcan is, both absolutely LOVED this movie. The acting was amazing, the effects were awesome, and the plot was understandable. Not the best Trek ever but definitely good. I plan to see it again sometime this weekend.
The only problem I had was…
*SPOILERS*
The destruction of Vulcan. But that might just be the sentimental side of me that hates alternate realities and wants to cling to old canon.
I can get over it though, this movie was awesome and just what the Trek franchise needed.
136
“THERE IS NO ALTERNATE TIMELINE. Spock did not go to another reality or mirror universe; he came back in his timeline, in his universe, to his people. ”
If that were true then Spock Prime would be changed by the events that transpired in the movie, his own history would’ve been altered, he would not remember his history as he related it in the mind meld. If he had a photograph he would’ve started to disappear in it-lol.
Trek has used both the paradox theories and alternate universe theories of time travel in separate stories, here it is using the alternate universe theory, not the Paradox [Marty Mcfly] theory of time travel.
@136…
The new timeline is created when the Narada drops out of the black hole and attacks the Kelvin. History is changed by the Death of Kirks father. Spock Prime appears 25 years later, but he has no way of returning to his former timeline… which still exists, just without him.
Spock Prime is too late for saving Romulus, hence Neros anger.
Neros and company were captured by Klingons and imprisoned on Rura Penthe for some time.
George P. Wansor-read the Countdown comic. Your questions will be answered in it
spoiler
I think it’s cool that even though this Kirk grew up without his dad, he still cheated on the Kobayashi Maru. The Universe has a way of course correcting.
But seriously, Spock Prime’s mom was still alive in ST:IV.
That really happened for him. He remembers it. It was real.
Really.
I have now seen the movie 3 times since Thursday @ 7pm, then again @ 10pm, then the following day @ a imax theater. It was one hell of a thrill ride. Defiantly my new favorite
I just saw the movie.
I loved it.
I just saw it. IT WAS FANTASTIC. ENTERING WARP BLEW ME AWAY. I can’t remember a more enjoyable movie in a cinema for a long long time. It was just soooo great !
There was not enough advertisement in Europe.
An Angels and Demons poster on every freakin’ corner, but no Star Trek poster.
Whats up with that Paramount??
ok e1 heres my take not only did i thourghly enjoyed this movie i saw it twice in a row second time was better than the first it had story and plot and i like the new direction its going its fun again not its not if but when star trek 2 comes out i can now c why paramount said start making plans for it to me gene roddenberry would be very proud of what jj abrams has done star trek is finally in the right hands now and it shall have new life who says things dont get better with age and dare i say it really does have a realistic view to it now and given another chance i will see it again jj and crew keep up the good work and as someone says in the movie “thrusters on full and buckle up” the future is here again
Re: whether the new timeline wipes out the original … I think folks are missing the point. The black hole that the Narada and the Jellyfish passed through was *not* simply a time warp. It shifted both vessels into an alternate universe. That’s why, at the time of the Kelvin incident, it looks so different. That’s why the events in this film further alter how history unfolds compared to the timeline/reality we’ve grown to know and love. Spock Prime can’t go back and restore history because there’s nothing to restore; it’s different before he even arrives. If you think of it that way, the new film is *not* a prequel; it’s a sequel, and one that could not have happened if not for all the other Treks that came before it — the series, the films, all of it. While it took me a little thinking to get there, I’m now totally comfortable with that approach, and I tip my hat to Roberto and Alex for their creative solution.
I went to the movie this afternoon, all pumped up and excited.
About 10 minutes into the movie, the film burnt up or something.
Then they showed The Wrath of Kahn.
I’m confused.
151. Looks like Khan got his Wrath one more time. Lol.
#104. You have your opinion and thats fine. But you are pretty much all alone in that opinion. You may get a few others but the vast majority of us will never share your opinion. I have been a Trek Fan since 1975 and have seen every tos eps a least a few dozen times over and then theres the other series and movies. So you my frend are just about all alone in that opinion of yours.
How much do you wanna bet that George P. Wansor is actually Rick Berman posting under a different name. :-D
#104 George P. Wansor
Quote: “Get a life.”
Saw the movie this afternoon. Awesome!! Grew up on TOS, fell in love with TNG. This will be the next TNG. Only better!!
Live Long & Good Luck…
#104 George P. Wansor – As we live in 2009, none of the events in any of the Star Trek series/movies has happened yet. So how do you know that you are right?
#135 – Thanks for the info!
Wansor
warning for trolling. You cannot determine who are not trek fans, and certainly the criteria should not be those who disagree with you. Everyone here is a trek fan
liking or disliking this film or any other film is not what it means to be a trek fan
I want this thing to dominate the theaters into June, but worry that it won’t. It’s BE-awesome!!!! Seriously, I can see why Paramount wanted to hang onto it until the summer, but I wonder if in an alternate timeline (getting into the spirit of things here), it would have raked in more mooolah around Christmas time?
I went to see it at Plaza Mayor, Malaga(Spain) in the Imax theater. It was incredible!! And the publicity in Spain, which is a very non science fiction country, is everywhere. The cinema was full of it and for every one thing publicising Wolverine there was 5 for Star Trek, and I am not exagerating. The workers at the ticket place had Star Trek t-shirts, big poster inside of the San Francisco Bridge with the drilling rig, two very long posters and maybe 3 or 4 more around the shopping center. Even the popcorn came in Star Trek boxes!
Spoiler Alert!!!
All you hardcore canon trekkies need to get a grip on reality. Star Trek is fiction!!! These characters are fictional!!! They never did, and most probably, never will exist!!! Canon is for nerds only!!!!
There, I got that off my chest, I feel better! ;-)
As a long time (40+ years) Star Trek fan, I loved the series, the sequels, the movies, etc. for one reason. The original concept struck a chord with me. Non-discrimination, equality, peace through communication, use of force only when necessary, exploration, tolerance., the future of the human race in cooperation with, not prejudice against, other races or species. As well as personal issues, such as finding one’s identity through trial and error and tolerance of others. That’s what hooked me from day one, the sci-fi aspect was always secondary.
I find it amazing that some are so obsessed with canon that the original vision of Mr. Roddenberry takes a back seat to their strick adherence to canon. Canon which is all fiction. Anyone on these boards that says that Canon is fact REALLY needs a reality check, and a life. Think for a minute, just about James T. Kirk. How many times has his life been altered? A brother, sister-in-law and nephew? His tragic past? A secret love and a son? (Not to mention Spock’s brother ).Yet, each time, any changes that are made become official canon. Comics and novels become canon, I assume without Mr Rodenberry’s consent. But yet, sorry to say, it’s all FICTION folks!
I haven’t seen the film yet, but from everything I’ve read I’m anxious to see it. But when I read comments about how the destruction of Vulcan and the death of Spock’s mother, or the death of Kirk’s father are great movie and storytelling moments, dramatic, and essential to character development, but yet are dissed by canonistas…… I’m left to wonder who are the real Star Trek fans and who are the fictional canon fans?
I love Star Trek! I love good films! Hopefully this is both!
#136 – If you saw the film and were paying attention then you’ll know that there’s a scene in the movie where the bridge crew are having a discussion about what’s going on and Spock and Uhura clearly say that Nero’s actions have created an ALTERNATE REALITY. Uhura literally uses that phrase so you can live in denial all you want, but that explanation is about as cut and dry as you can get.
And even if they hadn’t thrown the canonites that bone; so what? There is nothing to erase because none of this is real; none of these events have ever happened or are ever likely to happen. I was watching Space Seed today and couldn’t help but chuckle at all the “canon” events from that episode that have already been invalidated. Did WWIII happen in the late 20th Century? Did Khan leave for outer space on the Botany Bay in 1997? The only “reality” in Star Trek exists on the VHS tapes and DVDs and BluRays that we fans own; and no matter what happens in this and future movies, those episodes will always exist and always be there for our enjoyment. Watching this movie will not make that media magically disappear.
I don’t see the need for this kind of exclusionism simply because the filmmakers have dared to try something new. If the film had been poorly made that would have been cause for criticism, but that isn’t the case. Its a damn good movie, with damn good production values, performances and writing. It DESERVES to succeed.
Just came back from the movie! OMG! This Trek movie has just BLOW ME AWAY!
My mom went with me (She watched the original back in the 60´s) and she cried on the most emotional scenes.
I have to admit that the Final monologue by Spock brought a tear to my eye…
Space, the final frontier……..
I HAVE to watch this Trek at least more 4 times.
And my grandfather just told me that a major national newscast made a excellent report on the movie.
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I think the guys did alot right and just a few things wrong. The casting was great. These characters are back! that was a huge hurdle to overcome. what really did not work for me was the whole spock-uhura deal. I mean two of the biggest problems with star trek V was the uhura -scotty romance and scotty banging his head on a beam. so what do we get? uhura and spock romance and kirk banging his head for slapstick laughs.Did we really need scotty’s friend? Otherwise fantastic job. Only other beef was really the exclusion of shatner. i really think his presence would have made the movie better. I mean you destroy Vulcan and Romulus, kill off spocks mom but can’t find a way to get old kirk in? Other than those few headscratchers , great job
One thing which is highly annoying is that the press continues to portray the US film consumer as a moron.
Sacramento Bee:
“If there’s a hitch to this immensely enjoyable film, it is a story element that is difficult to follow and ultimately might rankle purists. But considering the overall boost the picture will give the “Star Trek” franchise, this aspect can be overlooked — at least after some head-scratching.”
Sorry guys, the time travel element is as easy as pie for the punters to follow. Perhaps critics like this need to get out of the cinema and read a book once in a while, or at least talk to someone, as they are out of touch with the intelligence level of the mass market.
Some reviewers sound like THEY don’t understand the time travel element, in which case they should quit. I understood it when I was 7.
some spoilers…
It would appear that ony events after the Kelvin’s destruction were
changed…perhaps history will go on the same as before..minus the destroyed ships and without Vulcan of course..That would change a lot..I contend that this was not Vulcan (no red sky!) The characters. of course have changed a bit…Kirk’s entry into Starfleet was delayed…The dates themselves are not canon, but I don’t think that has to do with the timechanges..simply the writing..
I again will need to see it many more times for explanations…
Why all the activity in Iowa/?// Enterprise constructed in Iowa.?..etc..
I contend it is an awesome ride!! I felt myself shaking in parts…
Sulu’s sword platy Chekov”s accent, Scotty’s brogue, where “Bones” comes from, Uhura’s hotness, Pike’s charm, and Kirk’s macho mannerisms…not to mention the beautiful “gi-normous” Enterprise…it’s bowels just seem to go on forever!!!!…not to mention..”Beastie Boys!!!…
Everything for everybody… though Scotty”s little friend on Delta Vega?…NO!
Saw it today. So much to like.
It would appear that the foul tomb of Bermanized Trek has been effectively sealed by this strong, fun, smart reminder of what Star Trek started out as back in 1966. See what happens when writers and directors pay attention to what came before??
Welcome back Star Trek, my old friend, it’s damn good to see you again!!
To Bob Orci, JJ and the rest of the talented cast and crew who made this possible, this movie was clearly a passionate effort that paid off in spades.
Well done, take a bow gents.
@104
and that’s a bad thing?
If this means TNG didn’t happen then I’m all for it…
#165 As I said, I haven’t seen it yet, but as for Spock having the hots for Uhura: from what I’ve read so far, this is a Spock that is still struggling with himself, so it seems ok that the human half wins out, at least briefly. #V was total misfire, so don’t let that cloud your judgement. Remember these are characters in their early 20’s still finding themselves, not peoplein their 50’s. Forget #V if possible……….
#166 I haven’t seen that at all from all the reviews I’ve read. Most have been positive.
I saw this movie in the theaters just tonight. Packed house lots of good crowd reactions.
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I thought this was probably the fourth best of the films after khan, st III and First Contact. That said it was done so much better than I thought it would and would definitely see it again. There’s a scene where Pine uses that kirk smug smile and it instantly won the movie for me, he channeled shatner very well, without doing a parody. In fact I thought nearly all the actors did great. Urban was McCoy, it was brilliant. However, and this surprised me a little. I thought Quinto was lacking as Spock. Nimoy brought a real depth to Spock, where as I found Quinto, fairly lacking. I did not like the Spock Uhura relationship. The charm and sorrow of Spock was his fear/terror of female love that was an intrical part of his character. Also I did not like Kirk going from cadet to captain in literally less than 3 hours. Or his car crash off a cliff bit as a kid, it smacked of lil lord vader in his pod racers. It made Kirk to be some sort of super man, kind of dehumanized him. HOWEVER, I loved the rest of it.
I really hope this pulls in at least 80 million for the weekend.
I think anything below 70 million would be a bit of a disappointment for those involved, but I do see this movie having good “legs” at the box office.
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3% of people ACTUALLY listed star trek V as their FAVOURITE?! I can understand enjoying some of it or taking some interesting character points away… but those people are just saaaaaaaaaaad. THey’re probably the same people who find themselves more upset than happy with the new star trek.
I’m SO happy star trek is fresh and exciting again! FINALLY!! GO JJ, GO! (and GO KELVIN GO! did anyone else almost drop a tear when George flew the Kelvin into the Narada? epic. just epic; it was like watching the best of TMP cinematography and the best of TWOK action)
WOW this is awsome indeed!! I”m seeing it tomorrow early bird showing and can’t wait to see this movie!! Trek lives on!!
Yea for sure, I loved it, saw it Thursday plan to go back and see it again, by my self if I have to, but I have to see it again this weekend. Probably two more times after that, my mother and sister want to see who are not trek fans at all but understand its relevance and its positive nature, and some of my non trek fans want to see it as well. What a wild ride, I love the movie, hell 24 hours later and I am still trying to digest it. Thank you JJ!
I bet this will do better on opening weekend than Nemesis did overall!
Just drove by a movie complex a few minutes ago. Not a scientific polling by any means, but the theater’s parking lot was packed to the gills.
That has to be a good sign.
You could reasonably consider Star Trek V to be your favorite, I think, but it would just have to be based on things other than plot, acting, special effects.
I know that sounds like a joke, and it mostly is, but I can see people having a soft spot for the movie, because I do. Oh, I get that it’s relatively awful, but for me it was kind of special. I became a big fan of Star Trek after STIV, and V was the first movie after that, the one I waited for so long to come out. And while I was not exactly overwhelmed, I loved Star Trek so much and was glad to have another one after wearing out VHS copies of its predecessors, I explained away its problems and was an apologist for it.
Kind of like I did (for a while) last year for the 4th Indy movie.
That was a great movie, not just a great Star Trek movie. Star Trek is really about characters, and I thought I would have at least few issues with how the original characters were portrayed by the new cast, but I did not. Chris Pine’s Kirk is even better (more believable) than William Shatner’s Kirk, and I like Shatner’s Kirk. Based on preview clips, I thought I would not like Simon Pegg as Scotty, but he was great for the comic relief and therefore appropriately cast. They were all great, different, and somehow exactly right.
JJ Abrams has done the impossible. By changing “everything,” he has create a Trek movie that is more like the original series and any of the previous movies with the original Trek cast.
Anthony, with the rapidfire run of comments on various threads, it’s almost like AICN, except we’re not telling anyone to “Go To Hell” as a famous Vulcan once said.
When all is said and done, I want to be part of the chorus that says “Thank you” to JJ Abrams, Messrs. Orci and Kurtzman, Damon Lindeloff, Paramount and CBS for not giving up on this property, and treating it, its characters and legacy with respect.
This film is not ‘maintenance.’ It is 99% wonderful, and sets a high bar for a sequel. I want Orci on the site now, so I can say “Thanks.”
Just saw it. I’ll give three stars, leaving out the fourth for the supernova-sized plot holes and spasmodic camera shots during every action scene. My favorite performance was Karl Urban’s. My God, man, he really does a spot-on job as Bones and I really hope he’s used more in the next film.
Loved the ship. Wasn’t real crazy about the new ship when it was first revealed, but it looks much better in the film and it tugged my heart to see the Big E fly again. One quibble, though – why is there such a vast design difference between the bridge and engineering? The bridge looked like a Manhattan hair salon while engineering had the appearance of a Schlitz brewery.
Another thing, all this talk about Shatner in the sequel, I don’t care, I don’t want him in a sequel because any attempt will seem gimmicky. It is not that important to have shatner in it. What is Kirk Prime going to go back and talk to young Kirk? We all wanted the “two captains” to meet and they did, Kirk and Picard had their moment together where, not that Generations was spectacular, but is has been done and as far as I am concerned it is done. Now that I have seen the movie I know what JJ was talking about, to have Shatner in this movie would have ruined it, Nimoy was perfect, it was so emotional, it fit so well. Please no cameos that seem forced, Nimoy felt natural. Again…24 hours later and I am still digesting the movie….I am so impressed I am speechless. JJ did the franchise justice, he grabbed our hearts and he squeezed…just an outpouring of emotion and pride, I was proud to see a Star Trek like this.
109- Thanks- All the best to you and yours, too.
Cindy’s always been a fighter and we count every day together a blessing.
Why do people have to suddenly start bashing Star Trek V? Some fans out there liked it, so whats the problem?
I personally enjoyed all the Trek movies (some more than others), but please lay off Trek V. Its not a bad movie, IMO.
#171 It seems you enjoyed the movie, but yet yearn for what you’re comfortable with, not what makes good movies, or even good Star Trek. Perhaps your perception of Spock was based on the OS, not on what went into making him the character you think you knew. You think he never had moments like thi?. It’s that struggle that makes him such a “fascinating” character. Thanks to all involved that we get to see this, finally.
Any channeling of Shatner would be disasterous. I hope it’s kept to a minimum.
I haven’t yet seen the movie, but Anthony, this article is informative It bodes well that THursday had a BoxOffice of 7 Mill!
Keep up the good reporting!
#185 – “Any channeling of Shatner would be disasterous. I hope it’s kept to a minimum”
As one of Chris Pine’s former doubters, I have to say that he pulls this off perfectly. He very much makes the character his own but every now and then you see a facial expression or hear an inflection or see some physical mannerism that harkens back to Shatner’s Kirk without banging you over the head. Its a very subtle almost subconscious thing but it works. Honestly, I thought that kind of subtlety was beyond today’s actors but Pine really does a good job of it. I have a newfound respect for him (and Quinto, Urban and everybody else) and find myself hoping that Pine does indeed get cast as Green Lantern. Having seen Trek, I have no doubt that he could pull off Hal Jordan as well.
How can anyone like TNG over TOS! Pure lunatics!
#188 John,
I agree 100%
#184 – Sorry, but that was a bad movie, even by Star Trek terms. Bad writing, bad direction, bad sfx, bad everything. The only thing it had going for it was the original cast, all beyond their prime. As an original ST fan it made me cringe at several points. The last straw for me was Uhura’s fan-dance…………
It tanked at the boxoffice, even fans hated it. It pretty much killed the ST movie franchise. They talked about a total reboot, with a younger cast………
There´s anyone like me out there that enjoy all the incarnations Trek had over the years?
And I´m going to see the movie tomorrow AGAIN!
Bob Orci: I hope you read this: Congratulations and THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for respecting all of us, Star Trek Fans around the world.
My mom actually cried when George Kirk sacrifice himself to save his crew.
The good of the many outweight……..
Just saw the movie this afternoon and wow! I’ve got to go back to see it again just to catch what I missed when I blinked. Btw, my daughter and niece went to see it with me, both of which has no clue whatsoever about anything Star Trek absolutely loved it and want to go back again.
I was amazed at actually how true they were to the canon of the original shows. The uniforms worn on the Kelvin were a kind of cross between the show Enterprise and TOS. They had the Kobayahsi Maru, which was a pretty good scene. Spock prime explains to young Kirk that his dad was the reason he joined Starfleet, making Jim accept who he is. It was really a remarkable movie in balancing the old with the new, in my opinion.
I have 2 gripes, but one is really a personal style thing. 1) The backstory should have been clearer. If you read the comic, you got it. If you didn’t, you kinda went, “huh”? 2) It’s a little too hyper for me. The movie almost never slowed down, even at the destruction of Vulcan. It would have been nice to see the characters kinda stop for a moment and just…take a moment to reflect and understand what is happning.
I think my wife put the timeline thing to rest:
“So if there’s no Vulcan, how’s Spock going to get home to do the Feng Shui?
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Its true that Trek V was not a hit at the box office, but it was hardly a disaster.
The movie cost 27.8 million to make and took in 52.2 million in the USA. The worldwide gross was over 70 million. Take inflation into account, and those numbers are not as abysmal as everyone makes them out to be,
So yeah, it made money. Nemesis was the only Trek film that did not make back its production budget.
Anyway, I liked Star Trek V, and I pretty much guarantee that if/when it ever gets a director’s cut with new effects, fans will see it in a more positive light.
I just dont understand why, instead of talking about the new movie, people have to start bringing up Star Trek V and saying “It sucked!”
There always has to be arguments/fights in these threads, and it just gets old.
This is excellent news, we have a hit on our hands i think! :)
Also STAR TREK is still 96% on rotten tomatoes after 209 reviews so all is looking good!
#188 & 189-I like TNG a whole hell of a lot. BUT, the original characters will ALWAYS be the icons in society, no ifs ands or buts. That’s why I pick them every time over the TNG crew! Star Trek is BACK!!!!
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Well, other than passing references by other posters, you are the only one that made it an issue, rather than discussing the new movie. BTW, I can’t wait for Shatner’s Directors Cut, it will be SO much better!
So, what do you think of the NEW movie?
Star Trek V: I think the true test of time will be whether in 20 or so years, we see Pine, Quinto and Urban huddled around a campfire singing “Row, Row, Row Your Boat.”
At the Theatre I saw it in tonight the threate was half full, and same goes for the showing 2 hours later, I’m told. Pretty good in this economy against other films. Did about as good on Opening Day as Titanic did – which wasn’t all that great. But word-of-mouth beyond the ad blitz saved Titanic.
No real disappointments. The changes in everything including timeline and ship design were pretty well explained. Did seem to have the Starship Troopers look and feel. D.C. Fontana was indeed channeled. No “classic” music until the end credits. Much of the script was “fanboyish.” Execution of the editing was both complex and impressive. Too tightly trimmed in some areas. Give it 4 out of 5 stars (previous high for any Star Trek movie: 3 of 5). Not quite up to the “Get Smart” movie from last summer or Gran Torino from last winter, but nonetheless a movie very much worth seeing, and enjoyable for both the veteran and virgin Star Trek audience.
It seem when one looks around on-line that mostly everybody who wanted to see it, has seen it. I did not like the film, but I hope that 7-million or so a day for four days is NOT the final outcome. that is only 28-million in the states.
I’m still so blown away by the visual effects, that whole opening sequence was simply BEAUTIFUL. I’m rarely impressed by computer graphics, but this was award worthy.
By the way, Urban stole the show for me. I can’t believe what a good job he did, it was SPOT ON. WOW!
We NEED a sequel with more character development though. I know this movie was a lot of action, but there’s a lot of room for great dialog, let the next film breathe a little bit.
There’s no way I can wait until the DVD, I will be back in theaters soon!
one of the worst star trek films ever put to print. JJ ought to be ashamed of himself, and Nimoy as well. the entire thing was just terrible and every scene seemed to be “LOL LENSEFLAIR” or “LOL CLOSE UP OF AN EXPLOSION, NO YOU DON’T GET TO SEE WHAT THE SHIP LOOKS LIKE”.
was I really the only one that hated this reboot so much? They could have waited another 10 year and it would have still been too soon to see the Star Trek canon thrown out the window like this.
I give it 1 star out of 5, and only 1 because of the not so half assed Young Spock. I’m going to go watch Star Trek V or Nemesis to wash this crap from my mind.
do you really think about the numbers? Its 7M or 70M?
Why doesn’t Box Office Mojo list it among the grosses for Thursday? It’s not even listed at all in the Thursday Box Office listings at all.
This is terrific news. Let’s hope it’s a big hit so that “Star Trek XII” gets greenlighted!
God bless!
#199 – Can’t wait to see Zoe Saldana singing in gibberish to horny aliens while doing a semi nude fan dance. That’s my Trek, dammit!
#200 – Yeah, that Get Smart movie was sooo good. I enjoyed it on free cable about 6 months later.
Seems the Star Trek Haters are now out in force to point out canon once again. I’ll give #203 the benefit of the doubt on the basis of very obvious sarcasism…….. ;-)
205. Amen to that!
tiki god-You’d better be joking, because if you aren’t……sad……just sad!
Bananaland quickie review of local premiere audience (w/ spoilings),
Saw movie on the Big Island in a community that has one 9-screen theatre and one ‘art house’ theater. Movie was 3/4 full for first showing, 1/2 for second with some repeaters. One person in Trek uniform, several teens had home-made t-shirts using movie poster & logos. No drunk or obnoxious people. Crowd demographics were mostly teens and 20s, with a few first-gen viewers. Noticeably absent were the 30-40yo age group. About 1/3 were 40-60yo. The “town Klingon” will attend the Sat show in full uniform. The fanbase here lacks community, so a lot of people were meeting other fans for first time.
Other movies like Fighter and Obsessed are more popular with the Crobar (Cro-mag barbarian ‘tough guy’) crowd here and usually draw higher attendance, but that is to be expected considering the culture and mentality of this locale. After all, the state-of-the-art UH planetarium has problems filling seats, but the “Big Island Smackdown” fights sell out every time, and PPV rentals for fight events are among the highest per-capita in the Time Warner cable franchise.
Given that, there were lots of young Japanese-American 20-somethings hanging around after movie to discuss minutiae, mostly concerning Prime Directive and gossip about ST2011 having Next Generation storyplots. Mostly cordial mood among moviegoers, with some Trekian esprit-de-corps. Attendees appeared knowledgeable about Trek, with a few geek-level ‘experts’. One attendee had seen the movie at the German premiere and was promising “you’re in for a ride” with this one.
Audience participation was more restrained than any other premieres I’ve attended, save ST V and Insurrection. Enthusiastic applause during Nimoy’s and Majel Roddenberry’s credits, plus dedication at end. Unusual for a first screening (I’ve been to all 11) was that most of the folks remained in theater for entire roll of credits. Second show at 10pm had a more boisterous crowd in terms of laughing at comedic breaks, but less enthusiastic during ‘applause’ moments. I found myself clapping alone 2x during film; Titan emergence sequence and the escape from the singularity sequence at end. With the Trek Motion Pic premiere, the crowd was cheering wildly at the scene where the Enterprise emerged from the bright explosion sequence when V’Ger destructed, but I couldn’t get this audience to applaud. I heard several people sniffle-crying during parts of the movie; attack on Kelvin, destruction of Vulcan/death of Spock’s mother, first meeting between Kirk and Spock-Prime, rescue of Pike.
Lots of positive comments and banter about movie, except from a few canonistas who reacted strongly to the destruction of Vulcan and how the time travel storyarc conflicted with Prime Directive (guess they didn’t read the part where the Prime Directive can be superseded if the safety of the Federation is at stake). The other complaints centered around pacing and how closely this movie resembles the annual Marvel blockbusters: “all the movies after this are going to have this rapid-action SFX-loaded style”.
People were caught by most of the movie’s humor, and some of its ‘attitude’ moments. A few ‘jaw-drop’ reactions to some of the SFX scenes, like the Enterprise unveil and the mind-meld sequence.
Overall, a lot less people then I expected for a premiere, but crowd was pretty laid-back. Amusingly, several of the theater staff watched the last hour or so of the second movie because all the concessions were closed down, and I overheard a couple of them say “this movie kicks ass!”
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Addendum to audience review…
Before the movie, during the one-minute “buy munchies, turn off cellphones” cautions, several people started up their cellphones, creating a cacophony of Trek-related ring tones. It was absolutely hilarious! Many in the audience laughed as the theater was suddenly filled with sound fx from TOS like communicator flips, tricorder swirls, etc. A brilliant bit of inspired madness from theatergoers that will make this premiere even more memorable for me and those who attended.
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Saw the movie last night 2 times…. realy enjoyed it. Fast paced, great visuals, good characterizations and acting. However… was this stoy worth 6 billion Vulcan lives. A bit too high of a price to pay for the plot line…. IMHO.
Getting rid of Vulcan creates a huge power vacuum in the federation. Without the Vulcans, that leaves only Earth to keep the Klingons and Romulans in check. It actually raises the stakes for Earth to be the galaxy’s police all by itself, much like the US has been for the world. It’s about time the humans ran things for a change!
I have gotten my love for movies again. I did not go with full optimism. I did not even think I would enjoy it. IMAX and JJ ,the crew all changed that. I agree nero could have been fleshed out a bit more. However that is not who matters. The E crew maters and each one got there chance to shine. I am so excited about this film that I am taking my non trek dad. I am taking anyone who wants to see it. I think it is that good! Acting great visuals great direction very good . I only paid attention to the cam once with the shaking. A good effort I have never been this excited and fully sure of how i felt about a movie since the original Star Wars in 77. Bravo Mr. JJ and crew I got to feel like a kid again.
25 million on Friday! Woo!
A fairly full late afternoon screening for me. The crowd seemed to laugh at all the jokes. A fairly decent crowd waiting to get in to see the next screening.
159 Anthony why are you such a control freak toward some but not others who say much worse things? You make no sense and your warnings are childish. No one threatened anyone so chill out Hitler.
#170 Brian Kirsh
That was exactly my point. Star Trek V did misfire. So why would you have some of those elements in the film?
I saw the film in England and there was a shot of Earth with a prominent view of the British Isles… i’ll bet there’s a different version of that shot for each major territory.
Anyone see their own country near the end?
#216-Whoa, AP runs this site efficiently. Perhaps you have forgotten what trolling is? Better look it up. Hitler is dead, by the way……
211:
Of the six billion fictitious Vulcans ‘killed,’ whom do Trekkers care about?
1. Sarek (saved)
2. T’Pau (saved? There was a grouchy-looking lady in the High Command)
3. T’Pring and Stonn (on Trekkers’ collective shit-list for years)
4. Tuvok (can still be born)
I’m more disturbed by Amanda’s death than Vulcan’s.
A question: How much money does this movie have to make to be “successfull”…meaning so that we will get Star Trek 12? Will earing its budget be enough? What do they take into account for calculation? Only US box office or US and international?
An interesting thing about destroying Vulcan is that this movie isn’t what everyone thought it might be: Star Trek 90210. By destroying Vulcan and giving Spock conflicts about his emotions, the filmmakers are saying, “This is a continuing story of our favorite original crew, even if that original crew doesn’t know it.” It’s fascinating how the movie really does feel like a continuation from Star Trek VI.
205. Steven
Box Office Mojo will include the Thursday numbers in the Friday talley. This is standard for a movie that has a “pre-release” the night before. Almost everybody will do this.
Star Trek made $25 million Friday night.
It is projected to make between $72-$75 million over the weekend.
Paramount has to be thrilled with these numbers.
Star Trek lives!!!
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/
Wow. Let me say that again. Wow. I haven’t had this much fun with a film experience since I was a child. In fact, my biggest complaint with the whole thing was the audience going overboard with applause while I was trying to absorb it all.
I went into the film quite enthusiastic, but expecting to be bothered by a few plot elements in particular—-first and foremost, Kirk’s ascension to command. Now, perhaps it is because I had already accepted it over the last few months as just one of those things, but I barely gave it a thought during the film. Had I a moment to dwell upon it in the theater, my reaction to Pike’s order (designating the young Kirk “first officer” in his absence) would most likely have been an elaborative spin on that of Commander Spock, but the story’s pace carried me on to the next stage of this thrilling ride, with no time for such quibbles. By the time he goads Spock into the trap provided by regulations (of which our beloved Spock of course needs no reminder from him) and assumes command—-the truth is—-I could not help but want him to!
This film was brilliantly casted, and boy did it need to be. The action sequences were terrific, but make no mistake—-this story was decidely character-driven…precisely as a Star Trek film should be. My favorite scene? There are, upon reflection, alot of them from which to choose, but one which stands out to me is certainly the one at the Vulcan Science Academy. It gave me goosebumps. Quinto nailed that one with a sledgehammer!
As for nitpicking the science of it all, there is no question that ST09 plays fast and loose. Do I care? Hell no! Everything about this experience was fun, and I feel sorry for anyone who wasted a minute on that…as he/she missed a minute of a fantastic experience. This was everything I wanted and easily a little bit more. ST09 kicks in the door and doesn’t let up until the credits roll.
Is it perfect? No. But if it were, a potential sequel would have nowhere to go but down.
This is by far Abrams best work, and Orci and Kurtzman’s best as well. Aside from wanting to yell “shut up” at the people behind and in front of me cheering and applauding when I wanted the only sounds in the theater to be from the film (and perhaps my own heartbeat), my only other complaint at this point is certainly more of a compliment than anything else—-I didn’t want it to end!
#136—”- Why did Nero attack Spock for trying to save his planet? I can see attacking someone after a failed attempt, but during the 1st attempt.”
Romulans and Vulcans are deeply emotional beings, and at their raw core, their emotions can be extremely dangerous. Vulcans deal with this by embracing logic and maintaining control of these emotions by way of constant mental discipline. The only thing preventing Romulans from yielding to their barbaric nature is a slavish devotion to the martial disciplines, a rigid structure and, for lack of a better term, “nationalism”. The tendancy of the Romulan people towards xenophobia, paranoia, etc. behind that thin veil of discipline was already there. Just as stripping a Vulcan of his emotional self-control and logic would be disasterous, so too would be the removal of the Romulan method of dealing with the same problem.
I’m not sure why it is so unbelievable that a Romulan would go mad after having everything that is important to him (including that very structure that maintains his sanity in the first place) ripped from him. Nero needs a focus for his madness and anger. That focus is Spock.
Why you would require any sort of rational explanation for the actions of a genocidal maniac is beyond me. If he were in any sort of rational state, he wouldn’t be a villainous madman.
Khan’s actions in TWOK toward a man who spared his life with exile as opposed to incarceration (when he had every reason not to) are no more rational. I don’t see a fundamental difference, except that Nero is Romulan, and therefore subject to even more dangerous emotional behavior.
“- With a Super Nova imminent or some other harm from the concern in his galaxy why did Nero not get his wife off the planet, Hmmmm, he had a ship?”
Nero’s work with Spock toward saving his home was more or less quite clandestine, as their assertions fell upon deaf ears on Romulus. His wife (pregnant at the time) leaving with him may have drawn suspiscion from those who might interpret his actions as treasonous. Furthermore, I’m quite sure that he did not intend to fail, especially since he trusted Spock to be able to deliver Vulcan assistance.
“- Why did Nero wait 24 years before Spock came through the Singularity? Could he have not gone home and helped avoided this future loss? (Sat in space for 20 some years – come on)”
Presumably, neither Nero nor Spock had any control over the activity of the “singularity”. There is no indication that Nero could have travelled forward in time from the point at which he arrived in 2233. And take a look at Nero in 2233 and then again in 2258 (when Spock appears). Notice something different about him? It’s quite clear that he was busy during that time.
96% on the Tomatometer now.
That better than the last 5 Oscar winners for “Best Picture”.
This is surreal.
105. Bob Tompkins: ‘One thing that disturbs me—– Enterprise is the only canon still in place, if Scotty’s lamenting Admiral Archer’s Prized Beagle is an indicator.’
We don’t know that it was the same Admiral Archer. He might have lived until he was 133, but part of the fun of the reference is that it only ***might*** be him.
The other thing is, just because we haven’t seen the events of TOS in this film doesn’t mean they won’t happen. It’s just that in this timeline they haven’t happened yet!
I have to say that, where Spock Prime is concerned, there is a positive aspect for what’s happened to him in late life: you end up living in an alternate version of the past where your dad and and all the friends you’ve outlived are still alive. I’d love to spend my last years surrounded by people like my grandparents while they were still healthy and my parents when they are young.
In the Prime timeline, Romulus does no longer exist – but Vulcan does. And in the Alternate timeline Vulcan is no more, but Romulus remains.
Two worlds related to one another, but now forever separated by the fabric of space and time. I find that wonderfully tragic, and it bothers me as much as it fascinates me.
If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.
So, whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.
203: If Nemesis is the gauge in which you judge “good” Trek movies, you should seek professional counseling.
#231—”If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.”
Well, Lindelof has made clear that they are done with time travel. At least so long as Bad Robot is producing Star Trek, I can hardly imagine that there will be anymore stories in the Prime timeline, if for no other reason that the MWI of QM would be confusing to fans who have just entered the fray with ST09. The prevailing assumption among such fans will likely be that the Prime timeline is done, as more conventional interpretations of the effects of time travel would have it.
And given the remarkable response to this film and these versions of Star Trek’s most iconic heroes, why on Earth would they venture out of this timeline?
“…whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.”
I disagree that it is at all hindering. Vulcan (the planet) is gone, but its civilization and culture are not lost. What I took from the dialogue is that 10,000 Vulcans were able to heed the evacuation order, and there are likely many more Vulcans who were off-world already.
Spock Prime will likely work to resettle his people, as suggested in the film.
This is not to belittle the significance of the loss of 6 billion lives by any means, but due to the actions of our heroes, Vulcan civilization and culture has been preserved.
And I have no doubt that “logic” will dictate that Vulcans indulge in alot more “hanky-panky” for the next few generations! Every seven years just isn’t going to cut it…
It’s tough to compare apples and oranges, but I’ll try.
Going into this weekend for me, TWOK was not only the best ever Star Trek movie, but probably the best “B-Movie” of all time.
Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.
That is not a slight to TWOK, as they were never on equal ground. It isn’t fair to Nick Meyer’s 1982 classic, but such is life.
Both are great films, although both utilize contrivances and overly “convenient” scenarios that set up the drama. But as thrilled as I was in the theater in 1982, (and as hard as it is to imagine) I was even more thrilled at this triumphant return.
I’ve thought about this all night. I went into it pretty sure that I was going to enjoy it, but I fully expected to say afterwards that it was my second favorite (surpassing TMP and TVH) Star Trek movie.
I was wrong. It is my favorite. I may not say that after years of repeat viewings and retrospect, but right now—-that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Bring on the next one. And in the meantime, I am going to watch this one again and again.
Good film… a thrill ride.
BUT… VERY slipshod screenwriting and… just a notch or two too fast in the pacing. I never felt like I was in a narrative…. rather, it felt like a dream–because so much of it made no sense… and the episodes of what little narrative there was went by so quickly.
Very good… a lot of fun. And the actors did a fantastic job. But the story went second to the spectacle… and the character exposition went somewhere off to the side.
“Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.”
ST09?
Insurrection?
Are you nuts?
Ok. Now that ST09 is out of the way–
Just got back from ST11.
Good movie, B.
Cast was good, A-.
Action ok, B+.
Camerawork and editing during the action, way overdone — D.
Ship design, D- (F for Engineering).
Spock and Uhura, F.
Overall concept, A-. (I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the alternative universe works.)
Dialogue, C.
Nero as villain, B-.
Emotional schmaltz, A.
Comedy, just enough, B+.
And for not enough McCoy, an extra C-.
Transporter effect, no grade low enough. (I know, pick, pick, pick).
I haven’t actually done the math to see if all my grades come to a B, but like the writers, I stand by my work.
Wolverine, by the way, C- at best.
i watched the original star trek at the age of 9. loved it loved it loved kirk. wanted to be on the enterprise. encouraged me to be a person who refused to live in the box. i strived for new, new food, new people, new cultures, new educational, was a rebel and a leader and never liked the word, ‘can’t’.
i was hesitant about star trek today. but, due to everything i just said, i had to go in with an open mind and open heart.
i was crying in the first scene of the show. i missed the first three minutes due to a popcorn run and i wasn’t really overanalyzing what was happening. i didn’t understand what exactly was happening until it all really started happening. after the scene ended, i was like, wait a minute…that shouldn’t have happened. then i wondered…hmmm. thisis interesting.
by the end of the movie, i was crying again. it was soooo gooood!!! i appreciated the view of what happened and how it happened and due to the “reality” of the movie story, i accepted this version of “what” happened before we got to know JTKirk and Spock and the crew of the Enterprise. i cried as to the adventure i took today. i was 9 again and the passion and beliefs i knew back then came alive again with a little bit more intensity.
i want to see this again. it will be purchased to be in my home. like my other Star Trek movies. i can’t wait to see what real technologies we will accomplish in the next 50 years. i mean i got my real star trek like communication device….my first cell phone…..bleeep!!
Went to the 10am IMAX showing today. Every show yesterday, and every show today are sold out. But then it’s only in IMAX for 2 weeks.
I was a bit upset by the scenes of young kirk stealing the car, not because it was not canon, but because the life of young Kirk is already exciting. How about if JJ had shown him as a 13 year old rescuing a 9 year old Kevin Riley on Tarsus IV? That would have been way more exciting then having him crash a car.
I always saw Tarsus IV as Kirk beating his first no-win scenario. Spoiler alert, I wrote a fan fic about it in 1970. It’s as pathetically bad as one would expect from a 19 year old. But still, how exciting would that have been.
I also would have been happy if the reboot ended with us on the Enterprise, but had a good portion of the movie taking place on Farragut.
And I’ve been to parts of Iowa, could someone tell me where that big canyon is? I would like to visit it. Ok, now I am just being picky. Still, that entire scene was a WTF moment. From his driving past his older (nope younger) brother, to the car itself. Any one who loves classic cars knows you don’t remodel them to add a fancy dashboard phone.
So can you tell I’m a purist, can you tell I watched the series when it first showed up on NBC. Funny story that, my Mom was a fan of William Shatner from the Defender, and wanted to watch the new show he was in. She walked out half way through, the rest of the family signed up for the remainder of the voyage. She did always come into the room for ‘ripped shirt alert’
Hey, how come he never ripped his shirt?
IN fact, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is No 1
I have to especially tip my hat to Chris Pine, for subtly working in some of Shatner’s mannerisms into his role; Zachary Quinto for beautifully walking the tightrope between Spock’s human and Vulcan halves; and especially Karl Urban for channeling the late DeForest Kelley without ever falling into parody.
this story was decidely character-driven…precisely as a Star Trek film should be. My favorite scene? There are, upon reflection, alot of them from which to choose, but one which stands out to me is certainly the one at the Vulcan Science Academy. It gave me goosebumps. Quinto nailed that one with a sledgehammer!