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		<title>By: Jan D - Fibrowitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan D - Fibrowitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Went to the 10am IMAX showing today. Every show yesterday, and every show today are sold out. But then it&#039;s only in IMAX for 2 weeks.  
I was a bit upset by the scenes of young kirk stealing the car, not because it was not canon, but because the life of young Kirk is already exciting. How about if JJ had shown him as a 13 year old rescuing a 9 year old Kevin Riley on Tarsus IV? That would have been way more exciting then having him crash a car.  

I always saw Tarsus IV as Kirk beating his first no-win scenario. Spoiler alert, I wrote a fan fic about it in 1970.  It&#039;s as pathetically bad as one would expect from a 19 year old.   But still, how exciting would that have been.  

I also would have been happy if the reboot ended with us on the Enterprise, but had a good portion of the movie taking place on Farragut. 

And I&#039;ve been to parts of Iowa, could someone tell me where that big canyon is? I would like to visit it.   Ok, now I am just being picky.  Still, that entire scene was a WTF moment.   From his driving past his older (nope younger) brother, to the car itself.  Any one who loves classic cars knows you don&#039;t remodel them to add a fancy dashboard phone.   

So can you tell I&#039;m a purist, can you tell I watched the series when it first showed up on NBC.  Funny story that, my Mom was a fan of William Shatner from the Defender, and wanted to watch the new show he was in.  She walked out half way through, the rest of the family signed up for the remainder of the voyage.   She did always come into the room for &#039;ripped shirt alert&#039;

Hey, how come he never ripped his shirt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to the 10am IMAX showing today. Every show yesterday, and every show today are sold out. But then it&#8217;s only in IMAX for 2 weeks.<br />
I was a bit upset by the scenes of young kirk stealing the car, not because it was not canon, but because the life of young Kirk is already exciting. How about if JJ had shown him as a 13 year old rescuing a 9 year old Kevin Riley on Tarsus IV? That would have been way more exciting then having him crash a car.  </p>
<p>I always saw Tarsus IV as Kirk beating his first no-win scenario. Spoiler alert, I wrote a fan fic about it in 1970.  It&#8217;s as pathetically bad as one would expect from a 19 year old.   But still, how exciting would that have been.  </p>
<p>I also would have been happy if the reboot ended with us on the Enterprise, but had a good portion of the movie taking place on Farragut. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve been to parts of Iowa, could someone tell me where that big canyon is? I would like to visit it.   Ok, now I am just being picky.  Still, that entire scene was a WTF moment.   From his driving past his older (nope younger) brother, to the car itself.  Any one who loves classic cars knows you don&#8217;t remodel them to add a fancy dashboard phone.   </p>
<p>So can you tell I&#8217;m a purist, can you tell I watched the series when it first showed up on NBC.  Funny story that, my Mom was a fan of William Shatner from the Defender, and wanted to watch the new show he was in.  She walked out half way through, the rest of the family signed up for the remainder of the voyage.   She did always come into the room for &#8216;ripped shirt alert&#8217;</p>
<p>Hey, how come he never ripped his shirt?</p>
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		<title>By: renazantz (christine)</title>
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		<dc:creator>renazantz (christine)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 05:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i watched the original star trek at the age of 9. loved it loved it loved kirk. wanted to be on the enterprise. encouraged me to be a person who refused to live in the box. i strived for new, new food, new people, new cultures, new educational, was a rebel and a leader and never liked the word, &#039;can&#039;t&#039;. 

i was hesitant about star trek today. but, due to everything i just said, i had to go in with an open mind and open heart.

i was crying in the first scene of the show. i missed the first three minutes due to a popcorn run and i wasn&#039;t really overanalyzing what was happening. i didn&#039;t understand what exactly was happening until it all really started happening. after the scene ended, i was like, wait a minute...that shouldn&#039;t have happened.  then i wondered...hmmm. thisis interesting.

by the end of the movie, i was crying again. it was soooo gooood!!! i appreciated the view of what happened and how it happened and due to the &quot;reality&quot; of the movie story, i accepted this version of &quot;what&quot; happened before we got to know JTKirk and Spock and the crew of the Enterprise. i cried as to the adventure i took today. i was 9 again and the passion and beliefs i knew back then came alive again with a little bit more intensity.

i want to see this again. it will be purchased to be in my home. like my other Star Trek movies. i can&#039;t wait to see what real technologies we will accomplish in the next 50 years. i mean i got my real star trek like communication device....my first cell phone.....bleeep!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i watched the original star trek at the age of 9. loved it loved it loved kirk. wanted to be on the enterprise. encouraged me to be a person who refused to live in the box. i strived for new, new food, new people, new cultures, new educational, was a rebel and a leader and never liked the word, &#8216;can&#8217;t&#8217;. </p>
<p>i was hesitant about star trek today. but, due to everything i just said, i had to go in with an open mind and open heart.</p>
<p>i was crying in the first scene of the show. i missed the first three minutes due to a popcorn run and i wasn&#8217;t really overanalyzing what was happening. i didn&#8217;t understand what exactly was happening until it all really started happening. after the scene ended, i was like, wait a minute&#8230;that shouldn&#8217;t have happened.  then i wondered&#8230;hmmm. thisis interesting.</p>
<p>by the end of the movie, i was crying again. it was soooo gooood!!! i appreciated the view of what happened and how it happened and due to the &#8220;reality&#8221; of the movie story, i accepted this version of &#8220;what&#8221; happened before we got to know JTKirk and Spock and the crew of the Enterprise. i cried as to the adventure i took today. i was 9 again and the passion and beliefs i knew back then came alive again with a little bit more intensity.</p>
<p>i want to see this again. it will be purchased to be in my home. like my other Star Trek movies. i can&#8217;t wait to see what real technologies we will accomplish in the next 50 years. i mean i got my real star trek like communication device&#8230;.my first cell phone&#8230;..bleeep!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matias47</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matias47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  Now that ST09 is out of the way-- 

Just got back from ST11.

Good movie, B.
 
Cast was good, A-.
 
Action ok, B+. 
 
Camerawork and editing during the action, way overdone -- D. 
 
Ship design, D- (F for Engineering). 
 
Spock and Uhura, F.
  
Overall concept,  A-.  (I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m saying this, but the alternative universe works.)

Dialogue, C.

Nero as villain, B-.

Emotional schmaltz, A.

Comedy, just enough, B+.

And for not enough McCoy, an extra C-.

Transporter effect, no grade low enough. (I know, pick, pick, pick).

I haven&#039;t actually done the math to see if all my grades come to a B, but like the writers, I stand by my work.

Wolverine, by the way, C- at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  Now that ST09 is out of the way&#8211; </p>
<p>Just got back from ST11.</p>
<p>Good movie, B.</p>
<p>Cast was good, A-.</p>
<p>Action ok, B+. </p>
<p>Camerawork and editing during the action, way overdone &#8212; D. </p>
<p>Ship design, D- (F for Engineering). </p>
<p>Spock and Uhura, F.</p>
<p>Overall concept,  A-.  (I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m saying this, but the alternative universe works.)</p>
<p>Dialogue, C.</p>
<p>Nero as villain, B-.</p>
<p>Emotional schmaltz, A.</p>
<p>Comedy, just enough, B+.</p>
<p>And for not enough McCoy, an extra C-.</p>
<p>Transporter effect, no grade low enough. (I know, pick, pick, pick).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t actually done the math to see if all my grades come to a B, but like the writers, I stand by my work.</p>
<p>Wolverine, by the way, C- at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Matias47</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matias47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 01:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.&quot;

ST09?

Insurrection?

Are you nuts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.&#8221;</p>
<p>ST09?</p>
<p>Insurrection?</p>
<p>Are you nuts?</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good film... a thrill ride. 

BUT... VERY slipshod screenwriting and... just a notch or two too fast in the pacing.  I never felt like I was in a narrative.... rather, it felt like a dream--because so much of it made no sense... and the episodes of what little narrative there was went by so quickly.  

Very good... a lot of fun.  And the actors did a fantastic job.  But the story went second to the spectacle... and the character exposition went somewhere off to the side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good film&#8230; a thrill ride. </p>
<p>BUT&#8230; VERY slipshod screenwriting and&#8230; just a notch or two too fast in the pacing.  I never felt like I was in a narrative&#8230;. rather, it felt like a dream&#8211;because so much of it made no sense&#8230; and the episodes of what little narrative there was went by so quickly.  </p>
<p>Very good&#8230; a lot of fun.  And the actors did a fantastic job.  But the story went second to the spectacle&#8230; and the character exposition went somewhere off to the side.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s tough to compare apples and oranges, but I’ll try.

Going into this weekend for me, TWOK was not only the best ever Star Trek movie, but probably the best “B-Movie” of all time.

Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.

That is not a slight to TWOK, as they were never on equal ground. It isn’t fair to Nick Meyer’s 1982 classic, but such is life.

Both are great films, although both utilize contrivances and overly “convenient” scenarios that set up the drama. But as thrilled as I was in the theater in 1982, (and as hard as it is to imagine) I was even more thrilled at this triumphant return.

I’ve thought about this all night. I went into it pretty sure that I was going to enjoy it, but I fully expected to say afterwards that it was my second favorite (surpassing TMP and TVH) Star Trek movie.

I was wrong. It is my favorite. I may not say that after years of repeat viewings and retrospect, but right now—-that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Bring on the next one. And in the meantime, I am going to watch this one again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s tough to compare apples and oranges, but I’ll try.</p>
<p>Going into this weekend for me, TWOK was not only the best ever Star Trek movie, but probably the best “B-Movie” of all time.</p>
<p>Well, it’s still the best B-Movie of all time. But as for Star Trek movies in general, I have got to say that ST09 is #1.</p>
<p>That is not a slight to TWOK, as they were never on equal ground. It isn’t fair to Nick Meyer’s 1982 classic, but such is life.</p>
<p>Both are great films, although both utilize contrivances and overly “convenient” scenarios that set up the drama. But as thrilled as I was in the theater in 1982, (and as hard as it is to imagine) I was even more thrilled at this triumphant return.</p>
<p>I’ve thought about this all night. I went into it pretty sure that I was going to enjoy it, but I fully expected to say afterwards that it was my second favorite (surpassing TMP and TVH) Star Trek movie.</p>
<p>I was wrong. It is my favorite. I may not say that after years of repeat viewings and retrospect, but right now—-that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.</p>
<p>Bring on the next one. And in the meantime, I am going to watch this one again and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#231---&quot;If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.&quot;

Well, Lindelof has made clear that they are done with time travel. At least so long as Bad Robot is producing Star Trek, I can hardly imagine that there will be anymore stories in the Prime timeline, if for no other reason that the MWI of QM would be confusing to fans who have just entered the fray with ST09. The prevailing assumption among such fans will likely be that the Prime timeline is done, as more conventional interpretations of the effects of time travel would have it.

And given the remarkable response to this film and these versions of Star Trek&#039;s most iconic heroes, why on Earth would they venture out of this timeline?

&quot;...whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.&quot;

I disagree that it is at all hindering. Vulcan (the planet) is gone, but its civilization and culture are not lost. What I took from the dialogue is that 10,000 Vulcans were able to heed the evacuation order, and there are likely many more Vulcans who were off-world already. 

Spock Prime will likely work to resettle his people, as suggested in the film.

This is not to belittle the significance of the loss of 6 billion lives by any means, but due to the actions of our heroes, Vulcan civilization and culture has been preserved.

And I have no doubt that &quot;logic&quot; will dictate that Vulcans indulge in alot more &quot;hanky-panky&quot; for the next few generations! Every seven years just isn&#039;t going to cut it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#231&#8212;&#8221;If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Lindelof has made clear that they are done with time travel. At least so long as Bad Robot is producing Star Trek, I can hardly imagine that there will be anymore stories in the Prime timeline, if for no other reason that the MWI of QM would be confusing to fans who have just entered the fray with ST09. The prevailing assumption among such fans will likely be that the Prime timeline is done, as more conventional interpretations of the effects of time travel would have it.</p>
<p>And given the remarkable response to this film and these versions of Star Trek&#8217;s most iconic heroes, why on Earth would they venture out of this timeline?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree that it is at all hindering. Vulcan (the planet) is gone, but its civilization and culture are not lost. What I took from the dialogue is that 10,000 Vulcans were able to heed the evacuation order, and there are likely many more Vulcans who were off-world already. </p>
<p>Spock Prime will likely work to resettle his people, as suggested in the film.</p>
<p>This is not to belittle the significance of the loss of 6 billion lives by any means, but due to the actions of our heroes, Vulcan civilization and culture has been preserved.</p>
<p>And I have no doubt that &#8220;logic&#8221; will dictate that Vulcans indulge in alot more &#8220;hanky-panky&#8221; for the next few generations! Every seven years just isn&#8217;t going to cut it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: What the Frak?!</title>
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		<dc:creator>What the Frak?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>203: If Nemesis is the gauge in which you judge &quot;good&quot; Trek movies,  you should seek professional counseling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>203: If Nemesis is the gauge in which you judge &#8220;good&#8221; Trek movies,  you should seek professional counseling.</p>
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		<title>By: Follow the Trekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Follow the Trekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Prime timeline, Romulus does no longer exist - but Vulcan does. And in the Alternate timeline Vulcan is no more, but Romulus remains.

Two worlds related to one another, but now forever separated by the fabric of space and time. I find that wonderfully tragic, and it bothers me as much as it fascinates me.

If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.

So, whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Prime timeline, Romulus does no longer exist &#8211; but Vulcan does. And in the Alternate timeline Vulcan is no more, but Romulus remains.</p>
<p>Two worlds related to one another, but now forever separated by the fabric of space and time. I find that wonderfully tragic, and it bothers me as much as it fascinates me.</p>
<p>If, someday, they give us another film or TV series, they will have to choose between either of these two worlds unless the plot involves travelling back and forth through time.</p>
<p>So, whereas both Romulus and Vulcan still exist, they have deprived themselves and future Star Trek writers countless of scenarios involving two of the most exciting civilizations of the Star Trek universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that, where Spock Prime is concerned, there is a positive aspect for what&#039;s happened to him in late life: you end up living in an alternate version of the past where your dad and and all the friends you&#039;ve outlived are still alive. I&#039;d love to spend my last years surrounded by people like my grandparents while they were still healthy and my parents when they are young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that, where Spock Prime is concerned, there is a positive aspect for what&#8217;s happened to him in late life: you end up living in an alternate version of the past where your dad and and all the friends you&#8217;ve outlived are still alive. I&#8217;d love to spend my last years surrounded by people like my grandparents while they were still healthy and my parents when they are young.</p>
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