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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek&#8217;s $112M Global Opening Weekend + Quinto,Nimoy &amp; Pine on SNL + More Tidbits</title>
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		<title>By: Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;HOW DID that canyon get in Iowa?&quot;

There&#039;s a funny story behind Lou Dobbs Canyon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;HOW DID that canyon get in Iowa?&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a funny story behind Lou Dobbs Canyon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: krikzil</title>
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		<dc:creator>krikzil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;GOD KNOWS that I find Kirk promoted to Captain in so few years to be only less probable to a “Community Organizer” in Chicago becoming the President of the United States. &quot;

While I totally agree on the Kirk promotion issue with you, don&#039;t think the President analogy holds since there really isn&#039;t a training program to be President.  (You can have a ton of seemingly relative experience and still suck; or have little and do a good job.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GOD KNOWS that I find Kirk promoted to Captain in so few years to be only less probable to a “Community Organizer” in Chicago becoming the President of the United States. &#8221;</p>
<p>While I totally agree on the Kirk promotion issue with you, don&#8217;t think the President analogy holds since there really isn&#8217;t a training program to be President.  (You can have a ton of seemingly relative experience and still suck; or have little and do a good job.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great movie. Deserved every penny it got, plus any money coming in the following week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great movie. Deserved every penny it got, plus any money coming in the following week.</p>
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		<title>By: Edith Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edith Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just REALLY glad that the Star Trek prequel kicked ass on all 3 Star Wars prequels! In your face Lucas, you money-grubbing sell-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just REALLY glad that the Star Trek prequel kicked ass on all 3 Star Wars prequels! In your face Lucas, you money-grubbing sell-out.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and reading from top to bottom I see that a lot of people state that Canon was messed with and that JJ had promised not to do that. Actually, the old &quot;canon&quot; does precisely exist, and it lives in the life of Nimoy&#039;s Spock, who remembers that canon just the way we all do. That Spock remembers the Galileo 7, Pike on Talos 4, the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A, and all the rest. Nothing destroys that canon, because it will exist because Spock knows that before Nero arrived back in time, it did exist. 

GOD KNOWS I hate the new starship. GOD KNOWS that I find Kirk promoted to Captain in so few years to be only less probable to a &quot;Community Organizer&quot; in Chicago becoming the President of the United States. I hate to even admit it could happen, or that it did happen, but it did happen. 

Now I would really have a problem with these characters being the &quot;real&quot; ones, and I think that when Spock meets that young punk in the cave and says &quot;You are Jim Kirk!&quot; that means that if that Spock from another time and timeline recognizes Kirk, and then Scotty, perhaps that is a canonical admission that we should, too. Nothing that we remember of the old Star Trek excapes Spock, so our Star Trek is alive with him, as both of us try to navigate the new one. 

And as someone who REALLY loves Star Trek: Enterprise&#039;s Season 4 - the least watched Star Trek series ever, no one is happier than I am to learn that THIS is canon in the new Star Trek, while TNG, DS9, and VOY are not. 

GOD KNOWS I was VERY skeptical about this movie, but after having actually watched it, I admit there are MANY missing pieces ... like WHY build a Starship in Iowa and not in space, and is Kirk now someone who is born in space and works in Iowa? HOW DID that canyon get in Iowa? Why does Iowa look so much like Arizona? Was the Enterprise built in Iowa out of a political decision to bribe Iowans because the Primary Caucuses begin there? And how exactly did they overcome the problems of manufacturing with gravity and the imperfections that are caused by building on a planet surface? And how did they ever get that spaceship up into orbit? Lots of questions, and I&#039;ll have to read the book to find the answers. I know Alan Dean Foster won&#039;t let me down - I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and reading from top to bottom I see that a lot of people state that Canon was messed with and that JJ had promised not to do that. Actually, the old &#8220;canon&#8221; does precisely exist, and it lives in the life of Nimoy&#8217;s Spock, who remembers that canon just the way we all do. That Spock remembers the Galileo 7, Pike on Talos 4, the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A, and all the rest. Nothing destroys that canon, because it will exist because Spock knows that before Nero arrived back in time, it did exist. </p>
<p>GOD KNOWS I hate the new starship. GOD KNOWS that I find Kirk promoted to Captain in so few years to be only less probable to a &#8220;Community Organizer&#8221; in Chicago becoming the President of the United States. I hate to even admit it could happen, or that it did happen, but it did happen. </p>
<p>Now I would really have a problem with these characters being the &#8220;real&#8221; ones, and I think that when Spock meets that young punk in the cave and says &#8220;You are Jim Kirk!&#8221; that means that if that Spock from another time and timeline recognizes Kirk, and then Scotty, perhaps that is a canonical admission that we should, too. Nothing that we remember of the old Star Trek excapes Spock, so our Star Trek is alive with him, as both of us try to navigate the new one. </p>
<p>And as someone who REALLY loves Star Trek: Enterprise&#8217;s Season 4 &#8211; the least watched Star Trek series ever, no one is happier than I am to learn that THIS is canon in the new Star Trek, while TNG, DS9, and VOY are not. </p>
<p>GOD KNOWS I was VERY skeptical about this movie, but after having actually watched it, I admit there are MANY missing pieces &#8230; like WHY build a Starship in Iowa and not in space, and is Kirk now someone who is born in space and works in Iowa? HOW DID that canyon get in Iowa? Why does Iowa look so much like Arizona? Was the Enterprise built in Iowa out of a political decision to bribe Iowans because the Primary Caucuses begin there? And how exactly did they overcome the problems of manufacturing with gravity and the imperfections that are caused by building on a planet surface? And how did they ever get that spaceship up into orbit? Lots of questions, and I&#8217;ll have to read the book to find the answers. I know Alan Dean Foster won&#8217;t let me down &#8211; I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Webmasters ... &quot;that Elusive Mainstream Audience&quot; is on board. Duh! I HATE SCI-FI! But I LOVE Science. So again, when the **** are you going to post Science Friday? We&#039;re still waiting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Webmasters &#8230; &#8220;that Elusive Mainstream Audience&#8221; is on board. Duh! I HATE SCI-FI! But I LOVE Science. So again, when the **** are you going to post Science Friday? We&#8217;re still waiting!</p>
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		<title>By: Paula*SD[-36]9412.8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula*SD[-36]9412.8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started reading all - gave up for now around eighty-something and jumped here to the end.  So if my comment is a repeat I apologize.
#435
I know there are a lot of people who are not JJ fans.  I am neutral on that.  Some things I like, others I do not.  I love the new movie.  Now then...have you heard of this little show called &quot;Lost&quot;?  Have we not learned something about alternate realities from that show?  The original timeline may not be dead.  The original timeline continues upon it&#039;s own path.  The new events of the altered past create their own timeline.  

I have read the Prequel books.  There is a movie or an animated movie there if anyone chooses.    Since the prequel shows that the characters are from Next Gen.....if those actors wanted &quot;a few bucks&quot; in their pockets...there are additional movies that can be made.  Hopefully infused with the new blood this movie is bringing in.  But let&#039;s be real for a moment.  Our reality.  ALL the actors are getting older. TOS, TNG  There is an opening there to create more with new, younger, stars.  Who, at least for some, would have to be related to Piccard, Data (what?!!), Geordi and so forth.  OK , just wacky ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started reading all &#8211; gave up for now around eighty-something and jumped here to the end.  So if my comment is a repeat I apologize.<br />
#435<br />
I know there are a lot of people who are not JJ fans.  I am neutral on that.  Some things I like, others I do not.  I love the new movie.  Now then&#8230;have you heard of this little show called &#8220;Lost&#8221;?  Have we not learned something about alternate realities from that show?  The original timeline may not be dead.  The original timeline continues upon it&#8217;s own path.  The new events of the altered past create their own timeline.  </p>
<p>I have read the Prequel books.  There is a movie or an animated movie there if anyone chooses.    Since the prequel shows that the characters are from Next Gen&#8230;..if those actors wanted &#8220;a few bucks&#8221; in their pockets&#8230;there are additional movies that can be made.  Hopefully infused with the new blood this movie is bringing in.  But let&#8217;s be real for a moment.  Our reality.  ALL the actors are getting older. TOS, TNG  There is an opening there to create more with new, younger, stars.  Who, at least for some, would have to be related to Piccard, Data (what?!!), Geordi and so forth.  OK , just wacky ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Trekkie16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trekkie16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trek took in over 7 mil on Monday.  Total:   $86,706,315 - From Box Office MoJo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trek took in over 7 mil on Monday.  Total:   $86,706,315 &#8211; From Box Office MoJo</p>
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		<title>By: ensign joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ensign joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#427

Here is how boborci explained it over at the AICN trek talkback:

TallBoy66 asked:
&quot;I&#039;ll take any fanboy throwaway reference as to why the tech in this timeline is so advanced compared to the original TOS timeline, and how Nero blowing up the Kelvin changed that. Any explanation that works within the confines of Nero traveling back in time would do. Thanks a lot.&quot;

boborci replied:
&quot;Certainly one would expect that the fleeing shuttles carrying survivors would also carry whatever telemetry was recorded by the Kelvin in its final moments ( like an airplanes BLACK BOX). Imagine the wealth of information that Starfleet was exposed to from scans of the Narada.&quot;</description>
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<p>Here is how boborci explained it over at the AICN trek talkback:</p>
<p>TallBoy66 asked:<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;ll take any fanboy throwaway reference as to why the tech in this timeline is so advanced compared to the original TOS timeline, and how Nero blowing up the Kelvin changed that. Any explanation that works within the confines of Nero traveling back in time would do. Thanks a lot.&#8221;</p>
<p>boborci replied:<br />
&#8220;Certainly one would expect that the fleeing shuttles carrying survivors would also carry whatever telemetry was recorded by the Kelvin in its final moments ( like an airplanes BLACK BOX). Imagine the wealth of information that Starfleet was exposed to from scans of the Narada.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#436 and the like.

If you look at series films like LoTR, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Bond, and Iron Man; you see a frequency that is managable in terms of films so that the DVD comes out 6 or more months after the movie, the TV debut is just before the movie and, what a coincidence, another movie in the theatres.  As a side project (experiment) things like anime are feasible in the context of marketting (just as with the comics) but not as the major event.

I&#039;d rather they focus on a series of good live action films that last the test of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#436 and the like.</p>
<p>If you look at series films like LoTR, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Bond, and Iron Man; you see a frequency that is managable in terms of films so that the DVD comes out 6 or more months after the movie, the TV debut is just before the movie and, what a coincidence, another movie in the theatres.  As a side project (experiment) things like anime are feasible in the context of marketting (just as with the comics) but not as the major event.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather they focus on a series of good live action films that last the test of time.</p>
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