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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek Box Office Still Strong + Abrams Fan Q&amp;A + More ST09 Tidbits</title>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mirror Mirror idea is pretty cool, but Star Trek Enterprise already showed us the origin of the Mirror universe, from Mirror First Contact right up to a time Warped (regular Trek universe) USS Defiant (Constitution class) being recovered by Mirror Archer in a Mirror 2155.

However, just having fun with the idea, Maybe at the end of &quot;Star Trek&quot; when Nero falls into the black hole (again) maybe this time he goes back in time long before First Contact, crashes his wreck of a ship on Earth, then causes humanity to go down a dark path...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mirror Mirror idea is pretty cool, but Star Trek Enterprise already showed us the origin of the Mirror universe, from Mirror First Contact right up to a time Warped (regular Trek universe) USS Defiant (Constitution class) being recovered by Mirror Archer in a Mirror 2155.</p>
<p>However, just having fun with the idea, Maybe at the end of &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; when Nero falls into the black hole (again) maybe this time he goes back in time long before First Contact, crashes his wreck of a ship on Earth, then causes humanity to go down a dark path&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider this new movie, the worst of the series... I love that the movie created a new time line parallel to the old universe I enjoy alternate universe stories, I felt the actors did a good job of playing the roles presented, and I was very interested in the fact this movie was going to treat (some of) the novels as if they had canon value...

But, come on, I don&#039;t understand how this movie can get good reviews!?! The most important plot points are pure coincidence, the decisions made the the crew (be it marooning, or the words the Scotty chooses to let out of the mouth) ... The Kirk of time line 2&#039;s arrogance was a bit annoying... Very little of it felt dramatic, even the loss of Vulcan (an iconic Star Trek world) did NOT come off one-percent as dramatic than the loss of the original 1701 in other movies... Even the excuses novel tie-in adds still makes the story seem almost as unintelligent and unimpressive as the movie it&#039;s self...
I&#039;d compare it to Star Trek V, but Star Trek V had less plot holes, and better character moments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider this new movie, the worst of the series&#8230; I love that the movie created a new time line parallel to the old universe I enjoy alternate universe stories, I felt the actors did a good job of playing the roles presented, and I was very interested in the fact this movie was going to treat (some of) the novels as if they had canon value&#8230;</p>
<p>But, come on, I don&#8217;t understand how this movie can get good reviews!?! The most important plot points are pure coincidence, the decisions made the the crew (be it marooning, or the words the Scotty chooses to let out of the mouth) &#8230; The Kirk of time line 2&#8217;s arrogance was a bit annoying&#8230; Very little of it felt dramatic, even the loss of Vulcan (an iconic Star Trek world) did NOT come off one-percent as dramatic than the loss of the original 1701 in other movies&#8230; Even the excuses novel tie-in adds still makes the story seem almost as unintelligent and unimpressive as the movie it&#8217;s self&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;d compare it to Star Trek V, but Star Trek V had less plot holes, and better character moments.</p>
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		<title>By: JA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned earlier the concept of the mirror universe.  Wouldn&#039;t it be wild if this were a trilogy that eventually gets us back to the original timeline when it turns out that this event is what created the universe from Mirror Mirror.  Without the logic of the Vulcans and with a paranoia developed from the Nero attacks Starfleet moves the Federation to the Empire.  Movie two would end with the empire firmly established.  Movie three has the mirror mirror events that get us back to the original timeline...somehow there is still a minor tweak tha allows some plot freedom the original timeline.  I think it would be interesting to find out in the third movie that we&#039;ve been pulling for the wrong guys all along.  I know this is insane...but Lost is much stranger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned earlier the concept of the mirror universe.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be wild if this were a trilogy that eventually gets us back to the original timeline when it turns out that this event is what created the universe from Mirror Mirror.  Without the logic of the Vulcans and with a paranoia developed from the Nero attacks Starfleet moves the Federation to the Empire.  Movie two would end with the empire firmly established.  Movie three has the mirror mirror events that get us back to the original timeline&#8230;somehow there is still a minor tweak tha allows some plot freedom the original timeline.  I think it would be interesting to find out in the third movie that we&#8217;ve been pulling for the wrong guys all along.  I know this is insane&#8230;but Lost is much stranger.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#235 – either way, as I understand the deal between Paramount and CBS, Paramount does not recoup 100% from any TV deals as CBS is currently the exclusive distributor of Paramount&#039;s films, in the same way Paramount is the exclusive distributor of CBS TV on DVD. However, I&#039;m certain that both companies receive some percentage of the profits from the respective sales of their own properties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#235 – either way, as I understand the deal between Paramount and CBS, Paramount does not recoup 100% from any TV deals as CBS is currently the exclusive distributor of Paramount&#8217;s films, in the same way Paramount is the exclusive distributor of CBS TV on DVD. However, I&#8217;m certain that both companies receive some percentage of the profits from the respective sales of their own properties.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i saw star trek 2009 it felt at the begining when nero came and attacked the starship uss kelvin  it looked like the enterprise e was coming to the rescue but i was thinking in the next one they could or third one the enterprise e could travel through time to save the day and come to bring spock prime back to the 23rd centrenty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i saw star trek 2009 it felt at the begining when nero came and attacked the starship uss kelvin  it looked like the enterprise e was coming to the rescue but i was thinking in the next one they could or third one the enterprise e could travel through time to save the day and come to bring spock prime back to the 23rd centrenty</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Gaskell (Australia)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Gaskell (Australia)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 07:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Star Trek movie is ... a LOT to accept. As an orginal Trek fan who grew up in the 70s and  80s and being with it throughout, I honestly WANTED to like the new movie but it is a LOT to ask for. I am sure many people have many views on this but when I think about it now .. it was NOT good. The film was poorly edited and it was shallow. It was obviously a creation by someone who was not a part of the Star Trek world. As a movie by itself it was good. But don&#039;t call it Star Trek. Itwas a bit of an insult to us long term fans since WE ARE THE REASON IT SURVIVED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Star Trek movie is &#8230; a LOT to accept. As an orginal Trek fan who grew up in the 70s and  80s and being with it throughout, I honestly WANTED to like the new movie but it is a LOT to ask for. I am sure many people have many views on this but when I think about it now .. it was NOT good. The film was poorly edited and it was shallow. It was obviously a creation by someone who was not a part of the Star Trek world. As a movie by itself it was good. But don&#8217;t call it Star Trek. Itwas a bit of an insult to us long term fans since WE ARE THE REASON IT SURVIVED.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb 1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb 1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Epix&quot; channel may be stillborn, as (AFAIK) few, if any, cable companies have signed on to carry it. Including mine (Time Warner of NYC.) &quot;Epix&quot; is a partnership between Paramount, Lions Gate and MGM; it was formed as a reactionary move to Showtime&#039;s (which has had exclusive rights to the three studios&#039; output for years) wanting more money for the pay cable rights to their films. In this tanked economy, spending millions in start-up costs for a new channel is not the way to go.  Plus, with cable companies drowning in pay-cable channels such as HBO, Starz, the aforementioned Showtime, plus all their side and partner channels, there may not be room for any more. Especially another pay one. Time Warner won&#039;t carry the NFL Network due to a money dispute; I doubt they&#039;ll be that eager to sign up for another pay channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Epix&#8221; channel may be stillborn, as (AFAIK) few, if any, cable companies have signed on to carry it. Including mine (Time Warner of NYC.) &#8220;Epix&#8221; is a partnership between Paramount, Lions Gate and MGM; it was formed as a reactionary move to Showtime&#8217;s (which has had exclusive rights to the three studios&#8217; output for years) wanting more money for the pay cable rights to their films. In this tanked economy, spending millions in start-up costs for a new channel is not the way to go.  Plus, with cable companies drowning in pay-cable channels such as HBO, Starz, the aforementioned Showtime, plus all their side and partner channels, there may not be room for any more. Especially another pay one. Time Warner won&#8217;t carry the NFL Network due to a money dispute; I doubt they&#8217;ll be that eager to sign up for another pay channel.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#215: Bravo.

I&#039;ve always said that apologetics and rationalization were the true art forms of the serious fan, and your post belongs in the Louvre :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#215: Bravo.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always said that apologetics and rationalization were the true art forms of the serious fan, and your post belongs in the Louvre :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and re:  #217+, why not pick up the cadets in the Enterprise itself...

Just because its the future doesn&#039;t mean you can use starships whenever and whereever.  They need a much bigger space to land, more crew to man them, and presumably a lot more fuel to move around, esp thru the atmosphere.  Its more realistic to me that cadets would travel in a shuttle because it would be cheaper for the military to shift a crew that way.  That&#039;s how we do it today.  I didn&#039;t see it as a plot device at all - just the way things would more logically get done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and re:  #217+, why not pick up the cadets in the Enterprise itself&#8230;</p>
<p>Just because its the future doesn&#8217;t mean you can use starships whenever and whereever.  They need a much bigger space to land, more crew to man them, and presumably a lot more fuel to move around, esp thru the atmosphere.  Its more realistic to me that cadets would travel in a shuttle because it would be cheaper for the military to shift a crew that way.  That&#8217;s how we do it today.  I didn&#8217;t see it as a plot device at all &#8211; just the way things would more logically get done.</p>
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		<title>By: Anaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am just reading this site for the first time - so please let me know if this post is better suited for a different forum - but here goes...

I have an idea that i think could bring the ST universe back to TV (I love the movie, but its not weekly!).

#1) does anyone know if the PTB want this?
#2) anyone know any writers that know how to pitch story ideas?
#3) here&#039;s my idea:  GG meets ST!  A fabulous teen drama that takes place at Starfleet Academy - in the FUTURE - post TNG, post DS9, with lots of experimental sex between teenage humans and aliens!  
#4)  Can;t you just picture it?  A rollicking good time to be had by all!

I&#039;m SO serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am just reading this site for the first time &#8211; so please let me know if this post is better suited for a different forum &#8211; but here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>I have an idea that i think could bring the ST universe back to TV (I love the movie, but its not weekly!).</p>
<p>#1) does anyone know if the PTB want this?<br />
#2) anyone know any writers that know how to pitch story ideas?<br />
#3) here&#8217;s my idea:  GG meets ST!  A fabulous teen drama that takes place at Starfleet Academy &#8211; in the FUTURE &#8211; post TNG, post DS9, with lots of experimental sex between teenage humans and aliens!<br />
#4)  Can;t you just picture it?  A rollicking good time to be had by all!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m SO serious.</p>
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