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President Obama Reviews Star Trek + more Saturday Tidbits May 16, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

Since his election last year, there has been a lot of talk about how President Obama is fan of Star Trek and even many mainstream media comparisons to him and Trek’s Mr. Spock. And now the Trekkie-in-chief has gone on the record to talk about the new Star Trek movie in a new interview with Newsweek. We have his review below plus Friday box office and more Saturday tidbits.


President Obama reviews Star Trek
President Obama’s comments on the new Star Trek movie come from a Newsweek interview titled ‘A Highly Logical Approach‘, which was conducted last Wednesday. The bit about Trek is at the end, here the excerpt:

And the last movie you saw?
Now, movies I’ve been doing OK [with] because it turns out we got this nice theater on the ground floor of my house … So Star Trek, we saw this weekend, which I thought was good. Everybody was saying I was Spock, so I figured I should check it out and—[the president makes the Vulcan salute with his hand].

Very good.
Yes, absolutely.

Did you watch that when you were growing up?
I used to love Star Trek. You know, Star Trek was ahead of its time. There was a whole—the special effects weren’t real good, but the storylines were always evocative, you know, there was a little commentary and a little pop philosophy for a 10-year-old to absorb.

A lot of U.N. stuff.
Yes, exactly, right.

New York Times illustration of Obama as Spock

This marks the first time a US President has given a review of a Star Trek film, while it is in theaters. The only other recount of a Presidential screening of Star Trek film at the White House comes from Ronald Reagan’s diary, where he wrote on June 23rd 1984 "After dinner we ran "Star Trek III." It wasn’t too good."

NASA beams Star Trek to ISS
Speaking of special screenings of Star Trek, yesterday NASA sent out a press release announcing that Paramount Pictures transferred "Star Trek" to NASA’s Mission Control in Houston, which then uplinked the film to the space station on Thursday, May 14 so that Trekkie astronaut Michael Barratt can watch it on his a laptop computer inside the Unity module. Of Trek Barratt is quoted saying:

I remember watching the original ‘Star Trek’ series and, like many of my NASA coworkers, was inspired by the idea of people from all nations coming together to explore space. Star Trek’ blended adventure, discovery, intelligence and story telling that assumes a positive future for humanity. The International Space Station is a real step in that direction, with many nations sharing in an adventure the world can be proud of.

Astronaut Michael Barratt got Star Trek beamed up to ISS

Box Office Watch: Star Trek On Track for $40M weekend
On Friday Star Trek is estimated to have brought in $11.85 in domestic sales, coming in 2nd place behind Angels & Demons at $16.5M. Trek’s Friday is a 56% drop from last Friday, but that is actually pretty good. Box Office Mojo summarizes the performance thusly:

While Star Trek’s 56 percent Friday-to-Friday drop was steep, it was actually a smaller dip than Iron Man, which was off 58 percent to $14.9 million on its second Friday. If Star Trek plays out like Iron Man and comparable titles, its second weekend will land close to $40 million.

Star Trek has a total of $116.5M domestically. This makes the film the highest grossing Trek film (before inflation).

Kirk’s Daddy is a God
Although his time in the film is short, Chris Hemsworth has got high praise for playing George Kirk in the new Star Trek. And now it looks like he is headed to the big time with Deadline Hollywood is reporting that Chris has landed the title role in Kenneth Branagh’s "Thor" Marvel comic adaptation.

Chris Hemsworth trading in the Kelvin for a hammer


1. Greg Stamper - May 16, 2009

It’s nice to know the President “gets it” and is an old Star Trek fan.

2. TonyD - May 16, 2009

A comment by JFK that From Russia With Love was one of his favorite novels helped to jumpstart the James Bond franchise; maybe President Obama’s comments will likewise help the Trek franchise.

As for Hemsworth as Thor, good casting if it comes to pass. He has the deep voice and the presence and though he may be a little young now Marvel is probably thinking long term.

3. LoyalStarTrekFan - May 16, 2009

It’s good to hear that the President liked the new film. The full interview is interesting as well. I don’t always agree with him politically, in fact I usually don’t, but he seems to be a good man who honestly thinks he’s doing what’s best for the country and I definitely appreciate that.

It’s also good to hear that the film is doing well in theaters and that it’s becoming popular again. This is indeed very good news.

4. Dave P - May 16, 2009

Have we broken the $109M record yet?

5. Dave P - May 16, 2009

I’ll answer myself, actually – yes, we have. Box Office Mojo says we have $116M.

6. 750 Mang - May 16, 2009

LL&P, Mr. President. Keep up the good work.

7. Shane Zeranski - May 16, 2009

Thor. Good choice.

8. 750 Mang - May 16, 2009

So Kirk is the son of Thor? I can dig it.

9. ety3 - May 16, 2009

Sorry, Ronnie. I always liked STIII. (Because of III, I never gave the even-odd theory much weight.)

10. The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - May 16, 2009

Just saw it again for only the third time tonight, but man what a third time it was! There’s just something about that opening scene with the Kelvin that gives the rest of the movie an enduring power!

11. TSFC - May 16, 2009

Well, nice to see he’s doing something important with his time like playing basketball and watching movies instead of actually finding a way to stabilize the over 9% unemployment rate without causing interest rates to skyrocket because we can’t afford the level of defficit spending his administration has approved…

…oh wait, nvm.

Why is this even news????

12. Daniel Lebovic - May 16, 2009

Of course Reagan didn’t like Star Trek III – the Genesis Device (something he would have been dumb enough to believe in, as he did with missile defense) ended up being a bust!

13. AJ - May 16, 2009

GOOD for Obama.

Let’s give him a TV series while he’s still in office.

Good luck to the world’s astronauts. Be safe.

14. sean - May 16, 2009


God forbid the President be a normal human being and take 2 hours to watch a movie. Cripes!

15. sebimeyer - May 16, 2009


I am all for that.

Bush and Co used their executive powers for so much shit during their time, why not have Obama sign an executive order to haev a new ST show on TV? :)

16. The Gorn Identity - May 16, 2009

Wow. Kirk’s dad is Thor. Whodathunkit?

Obama is the Presidential Geek. He reads Amazing Spider-Man and is a Trekkie. Very cool.

17. S. John Ross - May 16, 2009

Hemsworth as Thor sounds just fine to me, but he’s also been announced as being in a remake of Red Dawn? WTF? (not WTF to casting Hemsworth, just WTF to remaking Red Dawn) …

18. DavidJ - May 16, 2009


Same here. STIII rocks.


And why is this news? Because it’s the freakin President commenting on a Star Trek movie! We’ve had articles about every other little thing having to do with the movie, so why not this? Jeez.

19. GarySeven - May 16, 2009

pop philosophy for a 10 year old? I don’t think so. It’s a lot more thought-provoking than that. But I’m glad he liked it.

20. darendoc - May 16, 2009

Not sure what to think about the President’s comment of “the special effects weren’t very good”… come on… for 1966 they were state of the art… methinks this is a little “retro” memory that was written as part of his morning briefing.

And, I tend to agree with Reagan in his assessment of III… :)

21. Penhall99 - May 16, 2009


And a lot of “U.N. stuff”??????


And no, Obama is NOT like Spock…not even close.

22. The Great Barrier - May 16, 2009

*BIG SIGH* The shameless political pandering at TrekMovie continues…good grief…you guys have no shame.

Man if this was Bush or any Republican talking about this film you people would have nothing to say about it.

Admit it you partisan hacks!

23. section9 - May 16, 2009

Actually, any Presidential Publicity is good publicity for this film.

And quite frankly, I have to agree with old Ron. STIII wasn’t exactly the best film since “Maltese Falcon”.

24. Mawazitus - May 16, 2009

22: Perhaps part of the point is that Bush or any Republication wouldn’t be talking about this film? They’d be far too busy ‘accomplishing’ their mission.

25. tlh1138 - May 16, 2009


Agree on the opening Kelvin scene. It really sets the tone for the rest of the film. Saw it for the second time this evening, this time in IMAX. I enjoyed it just as much the second time around, and also got a kick out of my friends’ reactions to it. All three thought it kicks a– and they’re not big Trek fans. The IMAX theater had monitors in the lobby showing trailers and such. At one point they showed the Onion News parody clip about Trek fans not liking the film due it being popular, Klingon is sub-titled, etc. A lot of people standing in line got a big laugh out of it.

26. Anthony Pascale - May 16, 2009

people this is not a partisan issue, it is a news event. If Newsweek thinks this is worthy of talking about, certainly a trek news site can find it newsworthy. Any president talking trek of any party is interesting. Lets not start the usual left v right bs though ok?

27. darendoc - May 16, 2009

… and actually, when TOS portrayed a lot of “UN” stuff, it was usually to point out the needless bureaucracy and ineffectiveness of such an organization. I’m not sure they ever came to a decision as to whether or not to admit Coridan… :)

28. Mr. "There are always possibilities" - May 16, 2009

I always felt that III was underated. It was dramatic, and the destruction of the Enterprise was heartbeaking. Sometimes, these many years later, when I look up at the sky and see a jet flying and making a contrail, I think of that scene:

“My God Bones, what have I done?”

“What you always do, what you had to do, turned death into a fighting chance to live.”

Also, I never ended up buying into the odd number thing, either. I am not a fan of ST:V, but I’ll take it over no Trek ( I would also like to see Paramount pony up for a “Special Edition” with new effects). Also, as I have said here many times before, I loved Insurrection. I think it’s a high quality film, much better than that Nemesis trash that followed it.

29. Phasers On Stun - May 16, 2009

I finally got to see Trek at a real IMAX theater (in San Francisco) this morning. The huge screen was from floor to ceiling and wall to wall. It was glorious. Not like the Imax mini-me screens that some of the AMC theaters are claiming is real IMAX.

Any rumors as to when the DVD will be available – I assuming around xmas.

30. Andrew C - May 16, 2009

Of course, if it were Bush, he would spell it Star Track.

31. Iowagirl - May 16, 2009

We are in complete agreement on that. :)

And I liked very much what Barratt said!

32. Andrew C - May 16, 2009

By the way, any mention of the President of the United States is not necessarily political. Show some respect.

33. MORN SPEAKS - May 16, 2009

Maybe in the sequel instead of using Lincoln, they can use a Obama. I think he could throw it down with Kah’Less and Genghis Khan!

34. Kilo-Three-Zero - May 16, 2009

The fact that people on a Star Trek fan site are complaining about the President of the United States of America giving ST09 two thumbs up is sickening. Why waste your time?

Hell yeah. I applaud JJ for nailing that scene on the head.
“Tough little ship.”

35. Hat Rick - May 16, 2009

So, the original actor for Captain Pike played Jesus Christ, and now the actor who plays the father of James T. Kirk plays a god.

“What does God need with a starship?”


36. Andy Patterson - May 16, 2009

Yeah,..there’s one of my pet peeves again. I agree the President didn’t think the special effects at the time were poor. He’s heard people say that now for about 20 yrs. I never thought so back then….I uh…still don’t. As for him watching the movie….I don’t suppose he’d share a negative review of it if he felt that way.

And Kirk’s Dad playing Thor I can see that. In fact he looks very much the way John Buscema used to draw him. Somebody do a mash up of that. Here’s a cover to maybe go by.

37. Hat Rick - May 16, 2009

34, the President believes that ST2009 is good. He didn’t give it two thumbs down at all.

38. carmen - May 16, 2009

There’s a pitcher for the Tampa Bay Ray’s that throws the “Vulcan”. He holds the ball before he throws it between his middle finger and ring finger.
He can throw that pitch for strikes too. He was on ESPN 2’s First Take on Friday. Cool guy ….. Joe Nelson ……. Trekkie alert …… go see the Ray’s.

39. carmen - May 16, 2009

Obama is so cool. No wonder he likes Star Trek.

40. Greg2600 - May 16, 2009

Well I don’t think the movie will get the kind of bounce from a Presidential product placement like back in the JFK days. But if Oprah said it……..

41. Alf, in pog form - May 16, 2009

I imagine George Kirk ith quite thor after ramming his thip into the Narada…

42. craig - May 16, 2009

Now if we could get that good old star trek stimulus money out of obama then that would be cool.

I take my billions in 10s and 20s please – cash!

43. James Heaney - Wowbagger - May 16, 2009

*avoids pointless political gushbashing*

I’m concerned by this 58% drop. I want to break TMP’s $225M inflation-adjusted domestic take!

By gum, gentlemen, get out and SEE THIS MOVIE AGAIN! Yarrrrgh!

Alright, I admit it… that “yarrrrgh” was a Howard Dean scream. I have now mockingly participated in the political gushbashing. I apologize.

44. Trekee - May 16, 2009

I think Obama watching (and liking) Trek is nice geek news and I’m not American.

As for the whole Kelvin scene, everyone in it was excellent. We are mostly raving about the new crew but the support cast elevated the whole film. Definitely had some grit in my eye at that point of the film. ;-)

45. Qcjoe - May 16, 2009

Sorry guys,but Im not a fan of write ups of what The president likes or dislikes. Its getting kind of old to be honest with you. Its all over the main stream press and now I have to see it on my fav trek site. Sorry,but its how I feel.

46. The Last Maquis - May 16, 2009

Diversity is the Biggest and Best thing to take Home From Trek. That is what has inspired Me and something I’ll always appreciate.

47. LoyalStarTrekFan - May 16, 2009

Well, I agree with Mr. Pascale here at TrekMovie. There is no need for this to become political. I’m no fan of President Obama’s policies, as I said in my previous post, but there is no need to get political about either him or President Reagan. There are plenty of forums around the internet for that.

45, perhaps but whenever anyone has talked about Star Trek they have posted an article about it here at TrekMovie. Therefore, it is only natural that a high profile person, like the President, commenting on the new film would get mentioned here.

48. MC1 Doug - May 16, 2009

11″ “…oh wait, nvm. Why is this even news????”

More importantly, why the attitude??? (why not lose it, it isn’t pretty)

Heaven forbid

a) the President can’t enjoy a film after a workday
b) we escape politics in here when we talk about TREK

49. Will_H - May 16, 2009

gotta love it how there’s always somebody like 11 to take a nice post about Star Trek being embraced by our president and make it all hateful. Honestly grow up, or at least quit posting here.

50. thorsten - May 17, 2009

Great news, Chris swinging the hammer with Kenneth on Thor.
For me that is a must see movie ;))

In other news, I will meet the guy who created Obamas “O” next week and ask him about Trek.

51. JohnWA - May 17, 2009

I think the late Gene Roddenberry would have a few choice words about the notion that Star Trek can’t (or shouldn’t) provoke critical debate. His political beliefs weren’t exactly a closely guarded state secret. And as with any artist, those beliefs found their way into his art.

You certainly have a right to disagree with Gene’s point of view about economics, racism, war, and what have you. And it is doubtful even the most ardent Roddenberry fan would agree with him 100% on everything. I certainly don’t buy into everything the Federation stands for. But to unilaterally forbid any discussion related to the politics of Star Trek is childish and absurd.

It would be akin to saying Tom Clancy novels are “apolitical.”

52. Illogical - May 17, 2009

If anybody cares… just went to my local theatre to see it again, for the 7th time, and asked the girl in the ticket booth how it was selling and how well it stacked up against A&D and she said that Star Trek Out sold A&D tonight.

It was also sold out for all evening showings this entire weekend at the Imax in Fort Lauderdale.

53. Buzz Cagney - May 17, 2009

I thought Hemsworth was good as Kirk sr.
Would it devalue his act of bravery and courage in this film to, somehow, find a way of getting him into the next to work alongside his Captain son? I’d much rather that than have yet more cameos from TNG or original actors.

54. Jon - May 17, 2009

So I’ve seen this movie 3 times and my dad 5. Even got the GF to go twice. The last time I went was the hardest to get in. We went for an 8 o’clock showing and had to wait for 10:55, and even then they were turning people away. The lines for Star Trek were longer than A&D too!. I heard more laughter at that showing as well. All good signs for the movie I hope! Still haven’t seen R2-D2 though, I’m going again this week.

55. Buzz Cagney - May 17, 2009

#13 do people seriously want another TV series? Remember its been done before- with disticntly mixed results. Personally i’d settle for a top quality movie or two over the next few years and give the TV shows a miss.

56. marvin - May 17, 2009

STAR TREK earns whopping 18 million on saturday, only 1 million less than A&D

57. Geodesic - May 17, 2009


I don’t want another series right now. There was just too much Star Trek out during the 90’s. Several movies and 1 series per decade is more than enough.

We probably could have had a series featuring Captain Riker had the franchise not been run into the ground.

As a fan, I say let them finish this new trilogy that they’ve been contracted for before even considering a new series.

58. SChaos1701 - May 17, 2009

No new series. Just movies for now.

59. Mr. Tricorder - May 17, 2009

I had some family members go and see it today and lo and behold….Star Trek was sold out as well….

60. Geodesic - May 17, 2009


Agreed! Quality over quantity, please!

61. Tim DeMattio - May 17, 2009

Vincent D’Onofrio IS Thor…

62. S. John Ross - May 17, 2009

#51: “I think the late Gene Roddenberry would have a few choice words about the notion that Star Trek can’t (or shouldn’t) provoke critical debate.”

Around here, the problem most often tends to be that people engage in political diatribe or commentary _isn’t_ provoked by Star Trek at all, and which has nothing to do with Star Trek.

63. David B - May 17, 2009

If you look at this site you’ll see there are indications of the 7-11 and 1-11 movie box sets later in the year, probably November.

64. William Kirk - May 17, 2009

I agree with Ronald Reagan… the third movie could have been better.

65. Yippity - May 17, 2009

Lola (supervised by Edson Williams) worked on 48 shots, including adding damage to the teeth of the villainous Romulan, Nero (played by Eric Bana). “We notched the teeth and added stains,” Williams explains. “The damage was significant enough that we had to create clean plates of the inside of his mouth.”

Lola additionally did some digital work on the mouth of the elder Spock (Leonard Nimoy) following a re-recording session. “We shot Leonard with high-def cameras and loosely matched the lighting to what was shot on set. The next step was to build teeth, tongue and lips, the lips were the only element that was 3D. We created a rig that linked up Leonard’s digital teeth, tongue and lips and used rotomation to match the high-def footage from the ADR session. The shot could have been completed in 2D except the scene was lit by a fire pit and we needed the interactive lighting produced in Maya.”

66. Yippity - May 17, 2009

Meanwhile, Digital Domain was brought in late to help out with 150 shots, including a CG Scottie being sucked through a water tube in the engineering bay, some hand phaser effects with Kirk and Spock aboard the Narada, set extension work during the opening Iowa sequence and a CG cop and motorcycle enhancement early on as well. (Digital Domain also contributed to a deleted Klingon prison scene.)

“The most technically challenging part was the engineering bay sequence, which was shot in a Budweiser plant that had a lot of set pieces — orange pipe connectors, a big collection of cooling tubes full of inert reactant,” explains Darren Poe, the digital effects supervisor. “So the tubes were going to be added later and it was shot anamorphically and stylistically there were a lot of lens flare and visual effects. So this is what we had to get behind, real estate to real estate, tracking through all that distortion and our CG stuff had to stack up against the real stuff, joining physically together, so it was pretty exacting.”

67. Paulaner - May 17, 2009

#18 “Same here. STIII rocks. ”

I liked STIII more than TWOK.

68. Yippity - May 17, 2009

ILM handled 797 out of the 1,005 vfx shots (with additional support from Digital Domain, Lola, Svengali and others).

69. Yippity - May 17, 2009

“What I thought was ingenious about our story was its own parallel universe,” Abrams suggests. “It was all about treating it with believability… with reality… [And] it had to work at a higher resolution, not just because of IMAX but [also] because the audience is very sophisticated now and it had to work on a level they didn’t have to worry about in ’66.”

70. Yippity - May 17, 2009

I think what hurt Star Trek 3 was the sets, how cheap some of them looked, like the infurmary, the bridge of the Excelsior, the bridge on the Klingon Bird of Prey. I even think the bar was cheesy. The Genesis planet sets looked really fake. The rest of the movie was bloody brilliant.

71. Yippity - May 17, 2009

correction: how cheap some of the sets looked

72. cugel the clever - May 17, 2009

11. TSFC – May 16, 2009
” Well, nice to see he’s doing something important with his time like playing basketball and watching movies instead of actually finding a way to stabilize the over 9% unemployment rate without causing interest rates to skyrocket because we can’t afford the level of defficit spending his administration has approved…

…oh wait, nvm.

Why is this even news????”

You ass.
The president has every right to spend a couple of hours of downtime on the weekend with his family. And the fact that he likes Star Trek is even more evidence of his intelligence and decent values.

Better than spending your time shooting your friends and reading books upside-down like the previous administration, or sleeping through important briefings like that moron star-trek hater, Reagan.

73. Paulaner - May 17, 2009

#58 “No new series. Just movies for now.”

I agree. ST09 struggled to set up a new beginning. It was a really hard task, introducing every character (big E included), having to explain the whole alternate universe, and so on. IMO Abrams/Orci and crew succeded in a most brilliant way. From now on, Star Trek is free and can really stretch its wings and fly high.

74. cugel the clever - May 17, 2009

why do so many people call this movie “ST09″?

It is the 11th ST movie.

75. Rod of Rassilon - May 17, 2009

New Star Trek in 2009 ??

now how hard was that to work out?

76. spock - May 17, 2009

If anything obama is like palpatine not spock.the drones can’t see it. The cult of personality around here is disgusting

77. CmdrR - May 17, 2009

Finally, one of “us” in the White House — a left-handed Trekkie!

78. Sam Vimes - May 17, 2009

Wait a minute: “I used to love Star Trek.” What?? And now? No love any more? Didn’t the reboot help? Aw, c’mon!

79. Geodesic - May 17, 2009



80. Ty - May 17, 2009

It’s nice that President Obama thought ST09 was “good.” Like all Presidents, he deserves downtime with his family. Otherwise, just like the rest of us if we worked 24 hours a day, a President would burn out. Obviously, though, the President is “on call” 24/7.

As for President Reagan thinking STIII “wasn’t too good,” I think we need to cut him some slack. Keep in mind, he was in his 70s when he watched STIII. I don’t know of many people who where in their 70s in 1984 who enjoyed Star Trek fans. I’m not saying they didn’t exist, but Star Trek skewed to a younger audience than that back then.

While I believe STIII was a decent movie, it doesn’t necessarily make for a good “entry point” to Star Trek (unlike ST09). If the President had not seen the STII and perhaps only a couple of episodes of the TV series, if any, I imagine STIII would seem like a confusing and at times boring film. The movie works for us because we already know the background and the characters; they are already important to us.

It would be like making “Return of the Jedi” the first Star Wars movie you ever watched, or “Return of the King” the first LOTR movie you watch. They only work as conclusions of trilogies, not as stand-alone movies. In many ways, STIII wasn’t even a conclusion — it was a “middle act.” Viewed by itself, I can see how President Reagan felt the way he did.

81. ResidentnEvil - May 17, 2009

I really wish people would spend more time working towards making their country (and the world) a better place than arguing about politics.

As a great man once said, “It’s a wonder these people ever got out of the 20th century.”

82. "Check the Circuit!" - May 17, 2009

I was in Toys R Us yesterday. loved the giant display. The TREK toys seem to be selling well. Watched a mother (my age) and son discuss the differences between “her” Star Trek and the new one. She actually went over to the main action figure section…then came back with a “classic” Spock figure to compare and discuss versus the current Spock. They also had other Trek related products on the display, DVDs, Scene It, bobbleheads…and die cast ships. The young man picked up the Reliant and asked what’s this ship. Before mom could jump in, I just blurted out…The Reliant, from Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan. We wound up having a 10 minute chat on Trek and it sounded like they were off to find a copy of TWOK. What a great geek moment. Now Star Trek is is being introduced to yet another generation. Love it!! Star Trek Lives!

83. The Great Barrier - May 17, 2009

#76 — I agree!!!

A “troll” you are not. Tell the truth you do!

84. thorsten - May 17, 2009


I don’t think so.

85. Third Remata'Klan - May 17, 2009

Hey, if Hemsworth really gets Thor, that’s fantastic!
The opening was my favorite part of the movie, no small thanks to his performance.

86. brady - May 17, 2009

Have no fear TOS purists. After my 4th viewing, I realized that in 129 yrs the Hobus supernova will reappear. Spock will kill Nero in the Romulan senate. Nero will never destroy the Kelvin and the original timeline will be reset. Oh and if we can put up with 4 years of the DAHLIBAMA, surely we can put up with 129 years of JJ’s trek.(had to throw ina lil political talk)lol
Although I did enjoy the new movie. I can’t wait to see what new and exciting things Kirk hangs on to next time.(how many cliffs and platforms can one man hold on to for dear life inna movie?)

87. C.S. Lewis - May 17, 2009

I wonder what the Obamatonic Trekkies will think of Chairman Obama should he nationalize Paramount, fire the CEO, illegally knee-cap the bond holders and reward his political cronies with the stolen loot.

C.S. Lewis

88. Balok - May 17, 2009

Great 86, I like that, so 30 yeasr from now the next, next gen kids can have my real TOS back…

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90. brady - May 17, 2009

88… the other thing that I didn’t understand was that Kirk didn’t seem to have anger/revenge toward Nero. The man killed his father and changed his life yet I saw no anger. However by the end I really thought Pine had become Kirk without doing a parody of him. The part where he told Spock it will work really sold me on him as well as the very end giving orders from the chair. I just think they should have had him out of the academy as a officer on the Farragut and then start the Vulcan problem allowing him to take command, fix the threat and then be promoted. All very workable by just throwing in an extra 3 YEARS LATER to the movie.

91. OlderFan - May 17, 2009

Regardless of politics or anything else, the fact is people -like- this movie and its doing well in the box office. Can’t we all be grateful for that and the prospect of more Trek after all the years of mourning it’s death and trepidation over it’s “re-boot”? Geez.

My 18 yo daughter who used to make fun of my Trek geekdom loved the movie with me Wednesday. Tonight she called to say she was going to see it again with friends at 9 but then it was -sold out- so they had to wait til 10pm. That tells me that whatever our nits with the movie (and honestly, my kids thought it was better than I did), we should just enjoy the rebirth of Trek for as long as it lasts. This glass is more than half-full.

92. Geoffrey Alan Holliday (STAR TREK ''Soldiers of Pawns'') - May 17, 2009

I had the privilege of going to see the movie for the second time last night. It was sold out–as was the first evening showing. This time I came with my dad. He is not of the ”first generation” of Star Trek fans, but his sons were. He was a father during the run of the original show while my brother and I were growing up ”living it.” He was skeptical from the point of view that he thought Star Trek had pretty much ”seen its day” and had become ”irrelevant.” His first words as we left after the show were ”it looks like it finally has credibility to continue.” While he still thinks ”Soldiers of Pawns” is ”his favorite” (he is my dad after all), he liked the movie. He was and I am still profoundly amazed at how these actors immersed themselves in those iconic roles, with all their generations of ”baggage.” They inhabited our ”band of brothers” and threw caution to the wind–giving them everything fans have come to expect to ”something new” for everyone else. It is nice to see Leonard Nimoy on the big screen reprising ”his” Spock and holding his own.

Without a doubt, the sacrifice of George Kirk for his shipmates and family in the opening Kelvin sequence is an emotional ambush. It sneaks up on you on the first viewing and is probably the second most powerful sequence in the entirety of the Star Trek franchise. In ”The Wrath of Khan” the entire finale, the emotional rollercoaster from Kirk watching Spock die to the dawn funeral to Kirk and his son reconciling to the end–including the Spock voice-over of the famous Star Trek ”mission statement”–that still ranks up there tops. Upon a second viewing of the new movie I was amazed at the large presence of a young female audience–early teen to high school-age. I noticed in one group of who had earlier come in as ”giggly teens” that as the Kelvin soared toward the Narada and George said ”I love you so much” to his wife, tears were streaming down every single one of their faces as filmlight flickered off their faces. What was even more interesting is that in another older high school crowd consisting of girls and their boyfriends–that the same thing was happening and it was the guys for once that didn’t ”get it.” Their girlfriends were bawling their eyes out, hands to face, eyes pooled with tears–and the guys were baffled. How funny is that? A Star Trek ”chick flick.”

What a wonderful ”book-end”, a wonderful homage and a wonderful way to pay our respects to those we’ve lost of the original cast and for those still with us.

93. DesiluTrek - May 17, 2009

I thought these threads weeded out some of the more poiliticized comments. Don’t get me started on how embracing Star Trek and being politically conservative is “illogical.”

94. brady - May 17, 2009

91… We enjoyed the film but its what we do. To not look at the possibilities and theorize on the affects would be ILLOGICAL ;)

95. Chris - May 17, 2009

That picture of Obama reminds me of Tuvok

President Tuvok Obama

96. pock speared - May 17, 2009

c.j. lewis
you should really try to imagine that your coy, cynical intellect, which is as profound as the depths of space, my not be the only one on a star trek board, and therefore restrain yourself from time to time.

what do you BREATHE out there, anyway?

97. Andy Patterson - May 17, 2009


I hear that “re-birth of Trek”….. “well the franchise is alive still”, argument a lot. I just wish it wasn’t at the expensive making a movie that doesn’t feel like Trek to me. At the expensive of a movie that I didn’t want to see – now that I’ve seen it. I still don’t see how that’s the win win it could have been. I wish I had a place where I could voice my grief. It’s very much in vogue to sing Abram’s praises. Yet very taboo to have personal, legitimate issues with it.

98. Hat Rick - May 17, 2009

82, seeing the giant Star Trek display of the Enterprise at Toys R Us was a highlight of my day. They were selling all kinds of Trek toys.

I purchased the Hot Wheels die-cast Enterprise Refit. I’ve set it up next to the Playmates model of the new Enterprise. Given the size of the new Enterprise, it appears that they are to the same scale!

99. OlderFan - May 17, 2009


I actually agree with you to a large degree; it wasn’t win-win – just a workable compromise for me. It did feel a little too Star Wars to me and pushed believability more than I’d have liked (no way I understand ejecting Kirk from the ship, to meet Spock and Scotty by coincidence, and the little Yoda creature with Scotty. The whole Burger King marketing doesn’t even tie in to the movie after Rura Penthe was were cut from the film). But I am perhaps just old enough to accept that films are made and marketed differently and not neccessarily to -me- as a market anymore. It’s enough of a win for other people to want to see it, sometimes more than once. And I don’t presume to think I could have done a better job given the limits of producing a succesful film these days. Would it have been better if you or I or anyone one this board were a script consultant? I won’t presume. It sounds like some things we fans wanted were cut from the script or left on the cutting room floor. I would have liked 30 minutes more of clearer explanations/motivations. But I suspect a script written by a “democracy” of everyone on this board would have had as many issues, if different ones, and likely never be made. Nothing in life is perfect these days so sometimes we have to settle for what we can get and hope for even better the next time. I’m hoping this was a “good enough” start for the next movie to build on and exceed.

I think you, I, and others have many legitimate issues with the final product and are free to voice them here. But I respect that others are happier or more accepting of the results too. Lots of things I grew up loving just aren’t the same anymore but there’s more to my life than just this. Peace.

100. Capttravis - May 17, 2009

What would Ronald Reagan know about a good movie, anyways. ‘Bedtime for Bonzo,’ anyone?

101. spock - May 17, 2009

Thanks #83

How is state control of private industry following the Star Trek philosophy? State control of companies is called fascism.

Oh and comparing Spock and Obama is a joke, Spock has never used a teleprompter, and he actually has convictions and principles he stands by. Obama appeals to the lowest common denominator, Spock appealed to the better part of the human character. Also, Spock was not a race baiter.

102. Crewman Darnell - May 17, 2009

87. C.S. Lewis

Brilliant satire!

Yes, it’s a new day indeed, having a President with a greater attention span and more intellectual curiosity than that of a small soap dish.

However, it seems this isn’t the proper forum to mock the 43rd President. I choose to celebrate the current POTUS for his good taste in entertainment.

In the future, hopefully you will reserve your political humor for a more suitable audience.

103. Scotty - May 17, 2009

dressing B. Hussain obamma up as a vulcan is insulting he is no fan. and I agree with #87 ,#73., 101. Punishing achievement is not the Star Trek philosophy . Barrak is punishing achievement in this country

104. Scotty - May 17, 2009

# 102 Actually isn’t that Totus’s taste in entertainment. we all know barrak is reader of the free world. I didn’t know that intellectual curiosity includes reverend wright , sal alinsky’s rule book for radicals how is that Star Trek?

105. richpit - May 17, 2009

I still like the movie (and Star Trek in general) even though Obama likes it. I can’t stand anything about the man, but I can’t fault him for liking Star Trek.

It was a good movie and I look forward to the next one.

Oh, and I’m all for Chris Hemsworth getting the Thor gig. That’ll be cool, if Marvel doesn’t screw it up like they did Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider and 3/4 of the X-Men franchise.

106. khan - May 17, 2009

Quit with the Obama StarTrek crap before I start disliking Star Trek.

107. khan - May 17, 2009

OK Obama is NOT Vulcan. He’s ????????. And he’s a citizen of ??????? not Vulcan. Funny I don’t know what nationality he is or if he is a citizen of the United States of America.

108. Hat Rick - May 17, 2009

Actually, the state has an overall power called the “police power.” Despite the name, the police power isn’t limited to law enforcement. Under this general power, the state — and specifically, the individual states — have general authority to do things that many proponents of limited government oppose. The federal government does not have police power, but courts regardless of political ideology have said that the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution, and other provisions, give the federal government what amounts to police power in many areas of life — including in private industry.

The state, and even the federal government, have long regulated and, in limited instances, even taken over industries in the United States. Many of these actions were deemed legitimate for a substantial period from the New Deal onward, and yet few can seriously accuse FDR, the ultimate fighter of fascism, of being fascist.

Furthermore, the National Recovery Administration that was set up to confront the Great Depression had some of the effects of taking over not just one, but all industries:

“The NRA, which ended in 1939, had these roles:[9]

Setting maximum prices and wages and competitive conditions in all industries. (NRA)

Encouraging unions that would raise wages, to 93% increase the purchasing power of the working class. (NRA)

Cutting farm production so as to raise prices and make it possible to earn a living in farming (done by the AAA and successor farm programs).”

From: Wikipedia.

The Obama Administration has done very little of these things, by comparison, despite the worst economic crisis in existence since the 1930’s.

It is, quite arguably, political histrionics to accuse the current Administration of being fascist.

109. SPOCKBOY - May 17, 2009

On a lighter note,
Why is George Kirk on his knees (on a chair) just as the ship blows?

Loved the movie.
: )

110. ABQ_trekker - May 17, 2009

I’d love to have seen a photo of Obama giving the Vulcan salute. Would be so much better than all the pointy-eared photoshops that are floating around.

111. The Great Barrier - May 17, 2009

#103 and 107 — PERFECT!!! You are both right on the money.

Having said that…I can’t (begrudgingly) fault him for liking Star Trek.

I can only fault him for everything else he represents.

112. Crewman Darnell - May 17, 2009

It’s amusing that most people who throw around the term “fascist” in some feeble attempt at modern context, have as little (or less) understanding of “socialism” in the same present sense. One visit to a hospital in Canada or Denmark shows the (vastly preferable) results of tax dollars at work.

113. thorsten - May 17, 2009


The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism—ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.

Franklin D. Roosevelt,
April 29, 1938

114. Anthony Thompson - May 17, 2009

Before I even read the comments I KNEW this article would agitate the slack-jawed right wing crowd and intellectual wannabes like c.j. lewis! And I wasn’t disappointed. ;-)

115. Anthony Thompson - May 17, 2009

116.5 million is good. That’s exciting! But just imagine if they had done a panel at Comic Con last year? They would probably be up to 150 mil by now! Teehee. And if they had put Shatner in it, that would have added another 50 million, resulting in a 200 mil gross! Teeheehee!!!!

116. I toldYouSo - May 17, 2009

Well, here we go with the political nonsense.

Just because some of us think Obama is an idiot, doesnt mean we are right wing nuts. Im a registered democrat. But I was smart enough not to drink the kool-aid.

The only way Obama can be Spock, is if it’s from the episode Spocks Brain, where they removed his brain.

117. marvin - May 17, 2009

it is fascinating, to say the least, how many here choose to forget the simple fact that gene roddenberry was a humanist.

i suggest a very interesting read:

118. The Great Barrier - May 17, 2009

#116 — Glad you are a rational Democrat who can see through the hype and “messiah-building”. I knew there were some of you out there, but you seem to be few and far between.

Still, good for you!

119. Dr. Image - May 17, 2009

#98- I just bought the Hot Wheels E too, and yes, next to the Playmates E, the scale looks close!
#82- I had almost the same experience at TRU Friday, educating a family on the finer points of Trek history as they tried to decide what was what. The kids were fascinated.

Though I don’t agree with Obama’s policies, he is the president and yes, his mention of Trek can only help the movie.

120. Christine - May 17, 2009

I love President Obama even more than I did before. :D

Fantastic to hear he liked it! :3 It’s been a tough few months for him, no doubt. A lot of pressure to be an absolutely perfect president… So kudos to Mr. President for hanging in here and at least trying to get this country back on its feet.

121. Bramblett - May 17, 2009


It’s an optical illusion. When the Kelvin hits the Narada he is thrown out of the captain’s chair, so in this shot he’s actually kind of in front of the chair. If you blink you can miss it in the movie, because it’s happening so fast.

122. Geodesic - May 17, 2009


So why do you have to politicize this discussion? Trolling.

123. Nathan - May 17, 2009

Well…it was a good movie.

As for Obama’s presidency…well, I’ll refrain from commenting on that here.

P.S: Does this make me a slack-jawed right wing and intellectual wannabe? I certainly hope so…it sounds exciting!

124. Jorg Sacul - May 17, 2009

I think everyone who voted for Obama should feel obligated to go see Trek in the theaters…

125. Christine - May 17, 2009

Oh, and one more thing:

Why are people making this article all political? It’s nonsensical, if you ask me. =/ If you want to go bash President Obama, write him a letter. Write to your newspaper. This site isn’t about politics, last I checked, it’s about Star Trek. Several of you are seriously close to insulting a lot of people – Including me.

126. Geodesic - May 17, 2009

It would be an interesting social case study to see the political views of people who like/dislike the new Star Trek.

127. Locke for President - May 17, 2009

Bringing politics to this board is a bad idea. Even though you may be reporting it as merely a bit of news, you open it up for political extremists on both sides to bash the other one.

Not very Star Trekish, I might say.

You lost me for several months during and after the election when you went political, and you’ve lost me now for good. I don’t need to come here to have people call me a left or right wing nutjob, and all of that other nonsense.

You have run a nice site otherwise, but your urge to make it political is your undoing.

And people, if you think the other side of the political aisle is so bad or evil, I feel sorry for you. We’re all Americans, grow up already. Stop acting like children.

Good bye.

128. Qcjoe - May 17, 2009

125. I think theres alot of people who are just tired of having Obama slammed in there face. I keep seeing all over how he like this and likes that as if to make it even better that he likes what that demographic likes.
I agree with your take,but its bound to happen. Dont take anything said here insult you im sure its not personal.

129. Geodesic - May 17, 2009


The President will always be in the news. Regardless of who the president happens to be at the time. Did anyone here try to politicize Reagan not liking Star Trek 3? =)

130. BP - May 17, 2009

Obama > Reagan
yeah I said it

131. whisperingloon - May 17, 2009

It makes me feel good to see that the mainstream media is WRONG about Star Trek fans, and that, fortunately, we are just as likely to quickly insult and try to humiliate those who do not agree with us!

I am proud to count myself a Trekkie/Trekker, when I know I can go to a public forum and see that, YES! Trekkies are not jut some misunderstood and maligned social outcasts, but that we, too, can sling poop at each other like monkeys for being of one political persuasion or another! For this is what Trek is all about, is it not? Rejecting and name calling those who do not align with our beliefs?

Makes my heart swell with pride! The mainstream media is wrong! Star Trek fans are not out of touch with reality! We are just as intolerant, insulting, and intellectually arrogant as the rest of the people in the world! (The main difference being that we don’t limit it to religion and politics, we also include opinions about technical schematics in a made up universe and entertainment preferences.)

132. Jacob - May 17, 2009

I toldYouSo –

The “I was smart enough to” act is really old is merely an attempt to frame the discussion so that one appears to be in the correct position without even fomenting an argument. There is a lot to be said about political knowledge and reasoning, but none of it needs to be here. Throwing out generalizations like that is pointless at best and bait at worst.

Anyway, $250 million seems to easily be in sight for the domestic gross. I worry about the international take still, but Paramount has to be ecstatic about these figures.

133. Jim Nightshade - May 17, 2009

#86 Brady, I have to agree with you there, Kirk was hanging on a lot! His fingers must be sore…also he got beat up a lot, by Nero, by Neros henchmen, by the hard landing in the lifeboat pod, almost by two monsters, by Spock, by Cupcake and his burly gang, by McCoy(Hypo wise haha), by the hard landing on the drilling rig, by the guards on the drilling rig, by the falling to catch Sulu and hard landing on the transporter pad,(I dont think it should have shown them hitting hard by inertia because wouldnt that have been enuf to kill em, by life(losing his dad), having to put up with his step dad, did I miss anything else? Like Whoppi Goldberg said, later in his career Kirk did a lotta beating up but in this movie he gets beat up a lot…thats how he learns how to win fights hahah

134. Oregon Trek Geek - May 17, 2009

131–thank you, that was spot on.

Prior to this article, I thought politics were prohibited on this site. Except of course, the correct politics.

135. TBW - May 17, 2009

As if there wasn’t a cult of personality built around W. That’s what political discourse has become in the US, from both sides. People talk about “liking” or “disliking” a person, or even that person’s general ideology while losing either the willingness or the ability to critique specific decisions. I voted for him, but by no means have I agreed with everything he’s done. However, liking this film is definitely something on which he and I agree.

136. The Original Spock's Brain - May 17, 2009

11. TSFC – May 16, 2009
So did you also post every time the previous holder of the office took a vacation (most vacation days of any president in history, by far)? He’s having to clean-up your president’s mess.

137. SD - May 17, 2009

We were working on the good box numbers and went to see the movie a second time (with original English soundtrack, thank god). The plot holes are of the size of supernova, but it’s still GREAT.

138. Dunsel Report - May 17, 2009

The pro-and-anti Obama comments here feel about as out of place as Steppenwolf in “Star Trek: First Contact,” can you guys please get back to arguing about the scale of the deflector dish or something?

139. Qcjoe - May 17, 2009

128. Thats true,but it never was at the fever pitch that it is for Obama. I feel I dont need to care what he likes and dislikes. As long as the country is being taken care of. I come here for startrek news not Obama. If I want a feel good Obama story Ill go watch MSNBC. I come here for a distraction from reality. Just my two cents. Anytime you bring politcs in to a arena peoples feelings get hurt and thats exactly what has happened in this thread.

140. Newspaper guy - May 17, 2009

“Why is this news???”

Now there’s a tired old complaint that never goes away. Where I work, we see this comment on every story that isn’t a murder, rape or car accident. Of course, if we stuck with those three subjects, then the comments would whine that there’s never any “good” news. “Too negative!”

So let me spell it out. An item is newsworthy if it appeals to a segment of the readership. It might be boring or inconsequential to the rest, and that’s OK. There’ll be plenty of other stuff for the people who didn’t find it interesting.

But then, what the questioner was really asking is: “Why does this person/topic get attention despite the fact that it annoys me? Isn’t the universe designed to satisfy my every whim?”

141. Qcjoe - May 17, 2009

138. 100% agree

142. thenewK2 - May 17, 2009

120. Christine – May 17, 2009
“So kudos to Mr. President for hanging in here and at least trying to get this country back on its feet.”

You mean like when Obama voted FOR the banker bailout? Handing OUR money and OUR CHILDREN’S money over to a bunch of super rich bankers, who wrote up a bunch of bad debt and sold it around the world as Grade A assets? Obama voted YES to repay a bunch of white collar criminals for their crimes!

I’m very afraid of your idea of “trying”, Christine. Maybe he can just take your money and maybe just you can pay it back, since you are so supportive of his policies?

And don’t even get me started on the U.N. being compared to The Federation. Can you say, “Darfur”? Would the Federation sit back and let women and children get hacked to pieces with machetes? How about Obama’s silence when Gaza was being bombed, daily, for months? Is that your LOGICAL President hard at work? Would Spock allow a war criminal President, like George Bush, to not be prosecuted for authorizing torture, illegal warrantless wiretapping and going to war based on total fabricated evidence? No, I don’t think so! But Obama is going to!

Shall I go on?

If you don’t want political debate on this site, how about stop shoving Spock-bama in my face every other freakin’ day!? Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin. Those who are awake know exactly what I am saying and those who want to believe in a manufactured savior, can just sit back and wait and see for themselves that things are not going to get better…unless you are a banker!

Maybe if some of you spent a little less time hiding in fantasy land and a little more time in reality, you’d see who is really working the controls behind the curtain instead of buying into the cult of personality.

143. Ezytarget - May 17, 2009


Wait, Republicans have feelings? I thought all they did was care about themselves.

144. Josh - May 17, 2009

Wow Star Trek very nearly was #1 this weekend. Estimates are that it will make $43 million while Angels and Demons will only pull in $48 million.

Indeed, Star Trek is actually expected to beat Angels & Demons on Saturday, giving it a shot to beat it on Sunday as well. However, Angels & Demons should win the weekend due to it’s Friday performance. Right now the estimate project A&D will finish #1 on Sunday, but that’s projecting a 30% Saturday-to-Sunday drop from Star Trek, but only a 24% Saturday-to-Sunday drop for A&D. It should be noted that the same drop was overestimated last weekend for Star Trek. There is a chance that Star Trek could also come in at #1 in the weekday box office figures at this rate as well.

If weekend estimates are correct, Star Trek will have made $147.6 million after just 10 days. That’s compared to $129 million for Wolverine, $103.2 million for Batman Begins, and $177.8 million for Iron Man over the same time period).

Indeed, Wolverine is only expected to have earned $151.1 million over a week’s more time than Star Trek. It’s quite possible if not probable that Star Trek will overtime Wolverine in actual money earned by the end of this week, and should virtually certainly do so by the end of next weekend.

145. Anthony Pascale - May 17, 2009

a lot of people are choosing to politicize and go partisan and attack eachother and totally ignore my comment not to.

i suggest you stop it

146. Dunsel Report - May 17, 2009

“These words, and the words that follow, were not just written for the Yangs, but for the Kohms as well!”

“But the Kohms–”

“They must apply to everyone, or they mean nothing! Do you understand?”

“I… do not fully understand, one named Kirk… but the Holy Words will be obeyed; I swear it!”

147. Brian from OR - May 17, 2009

Yes! Even though it came in 2nd, it was really close. I definitely did my part to help out by getting 9 people to go with me to see it for the first time this weekend. With how the box office now a days the 2nd week box office is almost has important has the first week. Really starting to look like Star Trek will be one of the top 10 money making movies of the year.

148. Josh - May 17, 2009

147 – We obviously still have a long year to go, but Star Trek has already climbed to #4, passing Taken and Mall Cop on Saturday and Sunday.

By the end of this next week, it should pass Wolverine and Fast and Furious for 2nd, and then it might be a race between Monsters vs. Aliens and Star Trek on who can get to $200 million first (MvA is only $10 million away, but it is down to only making $3 million a weekend now too), unless terminator is just mega-huge and leaps to $200 million.

149. lukas - May 17, 2009

The weekend estimates were just released. Trek made $43m, A&D $48m and Wolverine $14.8m with Trek taking the top spot on Saturday. I think that’s sensational! The total domestic now stands at $148m compared to $151m for wolverine despite its additional week. So we will pass Wolverine within the next days. Who would have expected that…

150. AJ - May 17, 2009


Box Office Mojo hasn’t updated the int’l numbers yet (still at 49.2m), and that is where growth has to come from. Overall, worldwide, ST09 is at almost $200m. Hopefully, it hasn’t launched everywhere yet. The US number is still impressive even considering A & D launched Friday.

151. Josh - May 17, 2009

149 – beat ya :D

I fully expect Star Trek to beat A&D next weekend and come in at #3 after Terminator and Night at the Museum, which I both expect will probably pull in at least $40m if not $50m. Star Trek will hopefully pull in between $20 and $25 next weekend, while hopefully pulling in $2-$3 million per day during the week. If that’s the case, we’re probably looking at about $30 to $40 million or so for Star Trek over the next 7 days or so, pushing it to about $190 million. It should pass $200 million by the end of it’s 4th weekend at the pace it’s going.

152. David_Alexander - May 17, 2009

Obama looks more like a Romulan to me in that picture…


Maybe the guy in ‘Fringe’ was right…


153. Someone - May 17, 2009

He said it was “good”. Does that really qualify as a review? For crying out loud?

154. Andy Patterson - May 17, 2009



I still say that’s a GREAT episode!

155. Janet712 - May 17, 2009

It’s good to hear that Michael Barratt (astronaut, quoted above) and hopefully all the Space Station crew got to see the new ST movie in space! It’s been a huge, challenging — even daring — mission (e.g. exhaustive hours fixing the Hubble Space Telescope) and they deserve a break. (Incidentally, how did “everyone” like the film???)

Also, BTW, in “our” time line — we may be taking little steps that feel like big steps to get into space, be we ARE getting there! And your quote is SO right: “many nations sharing in an adventure the world can be proud of”. Long live the Federation, eh?

Thanks everybody whizzing around up there on the International Space Station. You’re doing a great job and we appreciate it!

156. Number Six - May 17, 2009

Alot of UN stuff??? Please spare me! Per Star Trek History the UN Failed thus why in Enterprise there is the United Earth. The UN is far from being a ‘Federation’. The Federation belived in world soverignty but on the other hand scrutinized it’s prospective members it the field of individual rights for it’s people (ie not killing sections of their population based on religion, ethnicity, etc.). The UN loves third world thugs, it even invites them to their NY HQ to speak to everyone when they should never be allowed entrance as they have not and never will respect the basis for the idea behind the UN. As for Obama he might as well be Bush Light.
“unlike me, many of have accepted the terms of your imprisonment and will sit here like rotting cabbages!” – Number Six

157. LoyalStarTrekFan - May 17, 2009

khan, in order to become President of the United States an individual must not only be a citizen of the United States, that individual must also have been born in the United States or one of its territories and, as a result, must have been born a citizen of the United States. So, if an individual was born in another nation, for example Germany of the United Kingdom, but raised in the United States, that individual cannot be the President of the United States. President Obama was born in Hawaii, a state of the United States of America, or at the very least a territory when he was born, and therefore is qualified to be President. These qualifications are laid out in the United States Constitution, Article II, Section I.

To quote the US Constitution, from Article II, Section I:
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

158. JR - May 17, 2009

So are you saying that if Obama is really a Romulan, he cannot be President?

159. Andrew C - May 17, 2009

The biggest problem with Star Trek III isn’t whether President Reagan liked it, it’s what the former actor would have sensibly said about Shatner’s wardrobe.

I’m watching III right now in Blu Ray and my God. Kirk is fighting Kruge in a pink shirt, red pants and black shoes. He looks like the manager at TGI Friday’s for christ’s sake.

160. Scott B. here. - May 17, 2009

I like Obama, but he looks like Jolene Blalock up there. Someone please give him the Tuvok Photoshop treatment. :-)

The reason our President can’t go on about how much he likes Star Trek, is that it would make him look like a total dweeb — to those who don’t love Star Trek as we do. Not good for a sitting President.

As far as his special effects comment, I can well remember my early-teens friends and I watching Trek after school in the mid-70s — BEFORE Star Wars came out, and laughing at the effects in the otherwise brilliant “Doomsday Machine.”

Star Trek III is easily the funniest Trek movie — in the best way. I like it. To me, it’s only flaws are that the Genesis sets looked pretty fake, and that it is the most insular of the classic cast films. It’s the one that’s the most non-fan friendly, story-wise.

Scott B. out.

161. dean conway - May 17, 2009

star trek is the best movie EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

162. I toldYouSo - May 17, 2009

Glad to see we are still piling up the dollars. Me and a buddy went for a second time Thursday, and dragged about 11 other people from our workplace to see it. It was about a 50/50 split of first viewers and those that had already seen it.
All IMAX on both trips, so we didnt go cheap.

And I apologize for joining the political fray. I dont like the guy, but I should have known better. I will let time tell the tale.

163. The Happy Klingon - May 17, 2009

Agreed. The Presidency of this country has become nothing more then a changing face to a contiguous government. As Baron Harkonen did in Dune he put in Raban to be a tyrant and inflame the masses so that when he replaced him Feyd Ratha the Arakeen would be so relieved that he could slip whatever he wanted past them.
We’ve become a nation of sheep that are spoon fed their politics and the Dems are every bit as much to blame as Republicans. As Chang said in STTUC, they are all a bunch of “Career minded opportunist(s)”.
I see no mention of how many campaign promises Obama went back on in his first 100 days. Campaign reform, no lobbyists in his cabinet, withdrawal in 16 months…he made a Tax Cheat the Secretary of the Treasury, three other tax cheats withdrew their cabinet nomintaions, he feigned outrage at the AIG ‘bonuses’ that HE and Geitner AUTHORIZED until it was exposed and then all of a sudden he didnt want to talk about it. Perhaps because he (Obama) received almost 700 thousand in campaign contributions from AIG. He made the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE LOBBYIST in DC the man in charge of Defense contracts (Fox in the Hen House). Our National debt now equals are yearly national output and China, thanks to Obamas policies, is now the major stockholder of the corporation known as America. If Bush had enacted these flawed policies all of you singing Obama’s praises would be all over him.
One liberal talk show host this weekend made a point I agreed with whole heartedly. He chastised liberals to be vigilant and to keep an eye on the folks that they elected because he said it was naive to think that the Dems in DC had any fewer hands in their pockets then the Republicans. He said when Health Care issues and alternative energy hit the forefront it will start to be apparent who is having their vote paid for.
The fact is they are ALL crooks and if you think anything different you need to settle down in front of the TV set and play,”All I ever needed to know about Politics I learned from Star Trek”.
The reason I hate seeing political arguments on this forum is because, quite frankly, a great many of you have only the most rudimentary understanding of how politics and government really work, not just in this country but elsewhere as well. Our country is being sold out from under us by our politicians and all Im seeing here is, “OOOOOh, he likes Star Trek…he’s so cool.” That statement pretty much sums up the political awareness I see here when these posts are made.
Hollywood will continue to make a mint because, in times of hardship, movies and popcorn have become our “Bread and Circuses”, a ploy used by the Romans to distract the masses from the crap THEIR government was pulling on THEM. As long as we have our movies, video games and fast food we will remain pliable and susceptible.
That all being said, I LIKED Trek 3 and Kruge is still one of the best Klingons ever.

164. Thomas Jensen - May 17, 2009

I could care less what Obama thinks of Star Trek.

165. Barack Obama is a Vulcan? | Patricia Chan - May 18, 2009

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166. Jorg Sacul - May 18, 2009

I’m glad Obama likes Star Trek. My only question, is he pay $9.50 to see it like I did? If he did or didn’t isn’t actually the material point, but what I want to know, does his viewing (if a freebie) count towards the total ticket amount?

Politics don’t concern me, Admiral. I want Star Trek to net enough to bankroll it’s own sequel and keep all the creative staff employed.

167. Trek Nerd Central - May 18, 2009

How, exactly, did this break out into a political brawl?

Y’all gotsta relax.

168. Gene - May 18, 2009

@ #12…Missile defense was a bust???? Have you missed the missile intercepting technology. Did you miss the first Gulf war where scuds were knocked down in most cases. Try learning a little history.

169. cugel the clever - May 18, 2009

164. Thomas Jensen – May 17, 2009

“I could care less what Obama thinks of Star Trek.”

Learn the english language. That means that you do care.

170. Lennier - May 18, 2009

Sigh. Yet another reason to not like Ronald Reagan.

171. Thomas Jensen - May 18, 2009


How interesting that you don’t understand.

You want precise? I don’t care about his opinion. It means nothing to me concerning Star Trek. Absolutely nothing. Is that clear enough for you?

Interesting you don’t understand the phase. Haven’t you heard it before?

I guess you needed clarification.

172. joeschmo - May 21, 2009



I couldn’t care less about Obama’s opinion concerning Star Trek either…….and a lot of other things too. I really dislike that picture of him as Spock, it’s “illogical”.
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173. joeschmo - May 21, 2009

that was supposed to be Vulcan hand but didn’t work :(

174. J. William Mason - May 21, 2009

Star Trek XI Review: J.J. Abrams Gets It Right….and Wrong!
May 18, 2009
By J.W. Mason

Obama’s casual fan review of the flick was a nice White House precedence.

After watching J.J. Abrams’ Star, I was impressed that the movie was exciting, action-packed and true to Gene Roddenberry’s vision of the future in many ways. However, there were some major inconsistencies and affronts to the Star Trek universe—a 43-year old genre enjoyed by millions of fans spread throughout the world. But more on that later.

One can certainly not fault J.J. Abrams and the scriptwriters and actors as well for their fine portrayal of Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Chekov, Uhura, and Sulu. In myriad ways the younger actors nailed their characters and gave the audience, especially those of us with longer memories (as a 10 year old I watched the original series and later wrote letters to NBC appealing for the studio execs not to cancel the show) plenty of reasons to smile or chuckle. Spock’s (Zachary Quinto) raised eyebrow being one of the prime examples.

Hiring Leonard Nimoy to reprise the older Spock was also a very welcome sight to us loyal Star Trek fans. Abrams gets a huge toast with Romulan ale for this move.

And the special effects were certainly astounding and impressive. The “techno-babble” as the actors often refer to StarTrekSpeak (warp drive, phasers, transporters, inertial dampers, etc) was true to the original series as well. Nevertheless, some more technical devotees of the show may be upset that certain technical changes or inadvertent tweaking imposed by the film’s creators might have gone a bit too far.

However, the greatest affront inflicted by Abrams’ movie to long-time Star Trek fans (be they Trekkers, Trekkies, or whatever) was unforgiveable.

Destroying the planet Vulcan (even with Spock’s line that as many as 10,000 of its six billion inhabitants may have evacuated in time) was a back breaker—to say the least. Not to mention the killing off of Spock’s mother Amanda Grayson (played by Winona Rider)! Such inconsistencies and wholesale disregard of the history of the Trek universe are unconscionable to most fans of the genre.

To those that protest that these are merely Abrams’ signature plot devices or creative drama enhancers—take note that we Star Trek fans heartily and vehemently disagree.

After all, Spock’s mother played a major role in an original episode of Star Trek (when Kirk is injured and Spock takes command, the Vulcan first officer refuses, at first, to donate an organ to his dying father despite his mother’s pleas) and her character played a significant role in molding Spock into the human-Vulcan hybrid we’ve all learned to respect and admire.

But, in some ways, that death pales in significance to the destruction of one of the Federation’s founding member planets—Vulcan. We should note that J.J. Abrams has admitted publicly that he was never a fan of Star Trek but instead enjoyed George Lucas’ Star Wars universe. Hey, J.J.—it is just not cool to destroy Vulcan and you’re really barking up the wrong tree if you find an analogy here to the destruction of Princess Leia’s home planet Aldaran in the first Star Wars film. That planetary catastrophe may have worked in Lucas’ film, but by example, the offing of Vulcan in this movie is the equivalent of killing off Darth Vader in the same film. Not a good idea!

In addition to the original episode with Spock’s parents, the classic 1960s episode (chosen by some fans as recently as a few years ago as the best ever episode of the genre) “Amok Time” is no longer possible in J.J. Abram’s Star Trek universe. In this episode, Spock must return to Vulcan to mate or die trying. And by the way, what happens to that biological fact about Vulcans now that there is no planet to return to?

The plot device of destroying Spock’s home planet does a major disservice to the four decades-long Star Trek universe. Are we to believe that fan favorites like Vulcan science officer Tuvok (Star Trek Voyager) and T’Pol (Star Trek Enterprise) are now relegated to “alternative time-line”stories? If not, it seems unlikely that they or their antecedents were some of those lucky 10,000 survivors of Vulcan’s demise (which means they beat the odds of 1 survivor in every 600,000 inhabitants). And even if somehow those characters manage to exist in Abram’s Trek universe, what about all the other episodes of Star Trek that focus on events occurring on the planet Vulcan or involving Vulcan science, diplomacy, military forces, etc?

More perplexing is the fact that this movie could have chosen another founding Federation member planet to destroy—such as Andoria. This would have had a less powerful impact on the consistency of 43 years of Trek drama and history (encompassing six Star Trek series). Simply adding an Andorian friend/lover of Spock to the plot would have ensured a powerful enough dramatic purpose to the film, especially if Vulcan (or Earth) had remained the second target of Nero. While some might complain this would dilute the dramatic intensity of the plot, many Star Trek fans disagree and accuse Abrams and his scriptwriters of intellectual laziness for disregarding the impact of the destruction of the planet Vulcan.

An analogy may be necessary here. Imagine how fans would have taken the death of Spock at the end of the film “Wrath of Khan” if there were no plans to bring him back to life in a future movie. In fact, if Spock’s demise had been made permanent there probably would not have been any further “successful” Star Trek films.

In fact, Abrams could have easily repaired the damage at the end of the film! Nimoy’s 24th century Spock rightfully should have informed that era’s Spock that it was too risky for him to stay in the past time-line (even with the consideration that his time-traveling vessel had been destroyed in the penultimate battle with Nero). Consistent with past Star Trek time-traveling plots and ethos, the older Spock should have informed Quinto’s Spock that he was planning on leaving Earth and returning to his own era with the goal of acquiring a ship that could return to the past (which is technically possible as we learn in another original 1960s episode). Spock’s mission: Prevent his mother’s demise at the very least and ultimately prevent the destruction of Vulcan. Abrams’ scriptwriters should heed this advice and resolve this matter in the first few moments of the next film by setting the opening scenes on the planet Vulcan!

Another problem with the film is the incredulity of a lieutenant just out of Star Fleet Academy being promoted to command the Enterprise. This represents another affront to the consistency of 40+ years of Star Trek. And believability was always a major quest of Gene Roddenberry’s vision. So this, by all means, is not a minor concern. In the original Star Trek series we learned that Kirk was a quick study—but we also learned that like all naval (and probably all future spacecraft commanders) he first had to pay his dues. In Kirk’s case that meant serving for several years on the U.S.S. Farragut. Again, Abrams’ quick-fix-to-restore-the-genre has backfired. Several original series episodes are tied in to this important fact and Kirk’s character is significantly altered by these experiences (for example—see the episode “Obsession”).

Alas, these inconsistencies and flaws can predominantly be “fixed” when the second Abrams’ Star Trek film premieres in two years. With just a few creative script lines or quick explanations (Kirk served as captain-in-training for a time period under the mentorship of Christopher Pike [including a tour of duty on Farragut] until actually receiving his captain’s bars) the continuing adventures of Star Trek can continue unabated.

However, Mr. Abrams must get the message, loud and clear, from us fans—“we like what you’ve done with Star Trek, but with a major caveat—you’ve got to repair the figurative damage to the warp nacelles or a core breach is imminent!” Translation: “Please restore Vulcan (and hopefully Amanda Grayson).” This is not merely the desire of a handful of some oddball Trekkies—it is as imperative as mouthing the Roddenberry mantra…”Space, the final frontier…”

And remember Obamarock of Vulcan is Watching!

We know you’ll do the right thing, J.J.

175. Rush Limborg - July 1, 2009

#12, #100, and #130–

Awww, SHUT UP!!!

176. ryan cameron - September 14, 2009

174…wrong. Blowing up vulcan was brilliant and set the stage for putting our beloved characters through a whole new set of adventures, a new timeline. Blowing up earth would have been dumb, because that removes the context for the viewer and thus makes us not care about what happens, and blowing up some other unheard of planet removes the power and influence of the move. It was probably the best part of the movie in that it telegraphed a long future for the series with new actors and fresh ideas. And your military protocol issue is one of those…hey, enjoy the movie, and get over yourself kind of issues.

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