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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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  Title
  ADJ BO
  ADJ Budget
  Year
  Studio
 
 
  1
  1
  The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
  $1,332.5
  $109.8
  2003
  NL
 
 
  N/A
  5
  Star Trek: The Voyage Home
  $257.4
  $52.0
  1986
  Par.
 
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  Year<br />
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<p>  1<br />
  1<br />
  The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King<br />
  $1,332.5<br />
  $109.8<br />
  2003<br />
  NL</p>
<p>  N/A<br />
  5<br />
  Star Trek: The Voyage Home<br />
  $257.4<br />
  $52.0<br />
  1986<br />
  Par.</p>
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		<title>By: falcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>falcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disregard the last incomplete line. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: falcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>falcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, even though I had some nits to pick. But they were minor in comparison to the fact that &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; is back in the mainstream.

To those who complain about the &quot;Big Red&quot; monster: Did you complain about the rock monster in &lt;i&gt;Galaxy Quest&lt;/i&gt;? Was that too out-there to comprehend? Geez. &lt;i&gt;Trek&lt;/i&gt; is no more &quot;real&quot; than &lt;i&gt;Quest&lt;/i&gt; was. Let it go. It&#039;s entertainment. Be entertained.

As far as box office is concerned, I don&#039;t know that much about how the Hollywood financial world works, but I&#039;d say if a movie that cost $150 million to make brought in well over $300 million, it&#039;s a success regardless of whether it makes a profit. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The academy uniforms were horrible and the worst, and I still can’t figure these out…were the Admirals uniforms. GOOD LORD, did the costume designer get a great deal on 10 bolts of wool? Jeez, I broke into asweat just watching these actors wear these stupid things. And people ridicule Enterprise??, ( a fantastic series by the way). It made them look even worse when Pike shows up sitting in my chair and actually payed homage to Kirks TMP uniform- stood ouot like a sore thumb.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, @118 - take a chill pill, dude. I don&#039;t think the costumes were the worst part of this film by a long shot. Look at any military academy in the country - the cadets all wear stuff that, IMNSHO, makes them look stiff. And the markings on many of their uniforms are beyond ridiculous. However, the movie uniforms are no worse than those. The uniforms in &quot;Enterprise&quot; were nothing more than coveralls. Hell, fighter pilots today wear those as their uniforms (they call them &quot;bags&quot;) festooned with patches.

And I doubt those costumes were made out of wool. 

(I wish I could</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, even though I had some nits to pick. But they were minor in comparison to the fact that <i>Star Trek</i> is back in the mainstream.</p>
<p>To those who complain about the &#8220;Big Red&#8221; monster: Did you complain about the rock monster in <i>Galaxy Quest</i>? Was that too out-there to comprehend? Geez. <i>Trek</i> is no more &#8220;real&#8221; than <i>Quest</i> was. Let it go. It&#8217;s entertainment. Be entertained.</p>
<p>As far as box office is concerned, I don&#8217;t know that much about how the Hollywood financial world works, but I&#8217;d say if a movie that cost $150 million to make brought in well over $300 million, it&#8217;s a success regardless of whether it makes a profit. </p>
<blockquote><p>The academy uniforms were horrible and the worst, and I still can’t figure these out…were the Admirals uniforms. GOOD LORD, did the costume designer get a great deal on 10 bolts of wool? Jeez, I broke into asweat just watching these actors wear these stupid things. And people ridicule Enterprise??, ( a fantastic series by the way). It made them look even worse when Pike shows up sitting in my chair and actually payed homage to Kirks TMP uniform- stood ouot like a sore thumb.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, @118 &#8211; take a chill pill, dude. I don&#8217;t think the costumes were the worst part of this film by a long shot. Look at any military academy in the country &#8211; the cadets all wear stuff that, IMNSHO, makes them look stiff. And the markings on many of their uniforms are beyond ridiculous. However, the movie uniforms are no worse than those. The uniforms in &#8220;Enterprise&#8221; were nothing more than coveralls. Hell, fighter pilots today wear those as their uniforms (they call them &#8220;bags&#8221;) festooned with patches.</p>
<p>And I doubt those costumes were made out of wool. </p>
<p>(I wish I could</p>
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		<title>By: AmmoGod</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmmoGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ Abrams w/ Little White Lies ......video posted above

#32
There are distinctly 3 obvious &quot;erotic&quot; tools in the opening sequence, with a possible 4th (half way off the screen to the left). It appears that whoever did it needed shapes to fill the initial void and the starship designs left a few holes, so a few other shapes where inserted to fill in.  Chalk it up as an obnoxious easter egg, if you will...

Then again, knowing how some of us get so worked up about the ships and such, maybe the analogy is fitting???

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ Abrams w/ Little White Lies &#8230;&#8230;video posted above</p>
<p>#32<br />
There are distinctly 3 obvious &#8220;erotic&#8221; tools in the opening sequence, with a possible 4th (half way off the screen to the left). It appears that whoever did it needed shapes to fill the initial void and the starship designs left a few holes, so a few other shapes where inserted to fill in.  Chalk it up as an obnoxious easter egg, if you will&#8230;</p>
<p>Then again, knowing how some of us get so worked up about the ships and such, maybe the analogy is fitting???</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IMAX run may be ending, but I just discovered that the Kennedy Space Center Visitor&#039;s Center (in Florida, naturally) will be showing the movie on their IMAX screen through the month of September.  So if you miss it now and are planning on vacationing in Florida this summer, you&#039;ll get another chance.

I&#039;m going tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IMAX run may be ending, but I just discovered that the Kennedy Space Center Visitor&#8217;s Center (in Florida, naturally) will be showing the movie on their IMAX screen through the month of September.  So if you miss it now and are planning on vacationing in Florida this summer, you&#8217;ll get another chance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Green-Blooded-Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green-Blooded-Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 08:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta get to IMAX!!!</description>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#119. Budgets go up automatically due to inflation alone. Though as has been pointed out numerous times in these threads, whether a film actually recoups 100% of its costs it irrelevant to the franchise as a whole. Trek has probably already earned enough to greenlight a sequel. What is being discussed here is whether the box office can recoup a film alone and what that would take. Ultimately the ancillary markets like books, CDs, TV, DVDs, video games, toys and other merchandising and licensing will be the factor in whether these films recoup and a strong box office helps determine how strong ancillary demand will be. Clearly FX has already made quite an optimistic bid for Trek&#039;s success for domestic cable TV. But keep in mind, for all of these ancillary markets, you can&#039;t simply look at each dollar earned as profit over box-office, no more than you can say every dollar earned at the box-office goes to recoup the studio&#039;s costs – the theatre and distributor gets a cut too. As far as merchandising is concerned, everyone from the actors, to producers and other artists get a cut of every dollar. In addition, for every new media the film is exploited into a respective participant&#039;s union residual is triggered that the studio must pay first. And of course out of all of the money left over, a portion of studio operating costs have to be paid for as well as project specific development costs and overhead. As far as the next film is concerned, a number of things can influence its budget. How well the film ultimately performs, how good the script is, are there budget factors that can increase the sequel&#039;s box office, like hiring a particularly expensive actor. But the studio has the luxury of waiting to see how the film does before they commit to a particular budget and enter into development on a sequel. The fact they chose to spend over $150 million on a reboot of the franchise almost foretold the fact that they intended to make a sequel or two. Only Trek&#039;s failure would have yanked the plug. But with both Abrams and Trek, this venture was hardly going to fail, it was only a question of how well it was going to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#119. Budgets go up automatically due to inflation alone. Though as has been pointed out numerous times in these threads, whether a film actually recoups 100% of its costs it irrelevant to the franchise as a whole. Trek has probably already earned enough to greenlight a sequel. What is being discussed here is whether the box office can recoup a film alone and what that would take. Ultimately the ancillary markets like books, CDs, TV, DVDs, video games, toys and other merchandising and licensing will be the factor in whether these films recoup and a strong box office helps determine how strong ancillary demand will be. Clearly FX has already made quite an optimistic bid for Trek&#8217;s success for domestic cable TV. But keep in mind, for all of these ancillary markets, you can&#8217;t simply look at each dollar earned as profit over box-office, no more than you can say every dollar earned at the box-office goes to recoup the studio&#8217;s costs – the theatre and distributor gets a cut too. As far as merchandising is concerned, everyone from the actors, to producers and other artists get a cut of every dollar. In addition, for every new media the film is exploited into a respective participant&#8217;s union residual is triggered that the studio must pay first. And of course out of all of the money left over, a portion of studio operating costs have to be paid for as well as project specific development costs and overhead. As far as the next film is concerned, a number of things can influence its budget. How well the film ultimately performs, how good the script is, are there budget factors that can increase the sequel&#8217;s box office, like hiring a particularly expensive actor. But the studio has the luxury of waiting to see how the film does before they commit to a particular budget and enter into development on a sequel. The fact they chose to spend over $150 million on a reboot of the franchise almost foretold the fact that they intended to make a sequel or two. Only Trek&#8217;s failure would have yanked the plug. But with both Abrams and Trek, this venture was hardly going to fail, it was only a question of how well it was going to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Canon Schmanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canon Schmanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much rather see a big red lobster creature, and even Scotty&#039;s Jawa friend, than see Kirk, Spock and Bones sing around a campfire.

This movie was as good as any Star Trek movie made before it. And I have watched Trek SINCE IT BEGAN. Let&#039;s face it, TMP had its moments, but it was BOring. TVH was fun, but very contrived, and it lacked one of the most important members of the series - The Enterprise. TFF was dreadful beyond measure, embarrassing for the cast and myself as a fan and viewer. TUC was tired and had so many plot holes I couldn&#039;t take it seriously.

Generations had some great moments, and some especially fine moments of acting by Patrick Stewart, but the second half was dreadful. It was nice to see Shatner back, but his death was pitiful. Insurrection was little more than a serviceable TV plot, and Data had grown very annoying. And lastly, Nemesis was just plain awful.

So that leave only three good Trek Movies in my mind - TWOK, TSS and First Contact, with some nod toward TVH. And in my mind again, the new film, Star Trek, holds up against any of these films.

And I&#039;ve never like anything J.J. Abrams has done in the past. I loathe Lost, Alias bored me, MI:III was forgettable and Fringe is just, well, just not my cup of Tronya.

They&#039;re already ordered a sequel to Star Trek, and I can&#039;t wait. I like this ship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather see a big red lobster creature, and even Scotty&#8217;s Jawa friend, than see Kirk, Spock and Bones sing around a campfire.</p>
<p>This movie was as good as any Star Trek movie made before it. And I have watched Trek SINCE IT BEGAN. Let&#8217;s face it, TMP had its moments, but it was BOring. TVH was fun, but very contrived, and it lacked one of the most important members of the series &#8211; The Enterprise. TFF was dreadful beyond measure, embarrassing for the cast and myself as a fan and viewer. TUC was tired and had so many plot holes I couldn&#8217;t take it seriously.</p>
<p>Generations had some great moments, and some especially fine moments of acting by Patrick Stewart, but the second half was dreadful. It was nice to see Shatner back, but his death was pitiful. Insurrection was little more than a serviceable TV plot, and Data had grown very annoying. And lastly, Nemesis was just plain awful.</p>
<p>So that leave only three good Trek Movies in my mind &#8211; TWOK, TSS and First Contact, with some nod toward TVH. And in my mind again, the new film, Star Trek, holds up against any of these films.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve never like anything J.J. Abrams has done in the past. I loathe Lost, Alias bored me, MI:III was forgettable and Fringe is just, well, just not my cup of Tronya.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re already ordered a sequel to Star Trek, and I can&#8217;t wait. I like this ship!</p>
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		<title>By: opcode</title>
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		<dc:creator>opcode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, Batman Begins cost $150M and made $372M worldwide. The Dark Knight cost $185M, so it doesn&#039;t look like Warner thought that $372M was a disappointment. Besides, how much money do those movies make on home video? I know that a movie like ST can easily sell 10M DVD/Bluray copies. How much in revenue is that? I suspect that is around $200M.
I bet a sequel is a sure thing, at a slightly higher budget.
And realistically, how much do you think Paramount was expecting ST to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Batman Begins cost $150M and made $372M worldwide. The Dark Knight cost $185M, so it doesn&#8217;t look like Warner thought that $372M was a disappointment. Besides, how much money do those movies make on home video? I know that a movie like ST can easily sell 10M DVD/Bluray copies. How much in revenue is that? I suspect that is around $200M.<br />
I bet a sequel is a sure thing, at a slightly higher budget.<br />
And realistically, how much do you think Paramount was expecting ST to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Chrispikeswheelchair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrispikeswheelchair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, loved the movie and took the whole family, but can I say that being a huge TOS fan (age 43), the old school- updated uniforms were fantastic BUT...

The academy uniforms were horrible and the worst, and I still can&#039;t figure these out...were the Admirals uniforms.  GOOD LORD, did the costume designer get a great deal on 10 bolts of wool?  Jeez, I broke into asweat just watching these actors wear these stupid things.  And people ridicule Enterprise??, ( a fantastic series by the way). It made them look even worse when Pike shows up sitting in my chair and actually payed homage to Kirks TMP uniform- stood ouot like a sore thumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, loved the movie and took the whole family, but can I say that being a huge TOS fan (age 43), the old school- updated uniforms were fantastic BUT&#8230;</p>
<p>The academy uniforms were horrible and the worst, and I still can&#8217;t figure these out&#8230;were the Admirals uniforms.  GOOD LORD, did the costume designer get a great deal on 10 bolts of wool?  Jeez, I broke into asweat just watching these actors wear these stupid things.  And people ridicule Enterprise??, ( a fantastic series by the way). It made them look even worse when Pike shows up sitting in my chair and actually payed homage to Kirks TMP uniform- stood ouot like a sore thumb.</p>
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