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Watch Tom Hanks Scream Out TOS Episode Titles On Tonight Show + ST09 Box Office Update June 3, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Humor,Star Trek (2009 film),TOS , trackback

Last night Oscar-winner Tom Hanks was a guest on The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien and Conan brought up how his movie Angels & Demons has been competing with Star Trek. Hanks said that he thought the Star Trek film was "great" then went on to show how much of a Trekkie he is by screaming out TOS episode titles. See video of that below, plus the latest box office numbers.

 

Tonight show Trek

The Tom Hanks segment was actually not the first part of the show that brought up Trek. It came up earlier in the show during a comedy bit about Twitter (which Hanks referred to later).

Then during the second part of Hank’s interview the subject of Angels & Demons came up, including how it was competing with Star Trek.

Yes Hanks did yell out “City on the Edge of Tomorrow” instead of “City on the Edge of Forever” but he still showed off his Trek cred, so we will cut him slack on that one. Conan also shows his inner Trekkie by noting that “A Piece of the Action” had Vic Tayback as a guest star.

Box Office Update
As it did last weekend, Star Trek has stayed in fifth place on Monday and Tuesday, beating Angels & Demons both days. On Monday it brought in $1.27M in domestic sales and on Tuesday it had $1.33M. The total domestic sales for Star Trek now stands at $211.91M. Star Trek’s international sales have also picked up (likely due to the opening in Japan), bringing in $2.69M in the last two days for a total overseas take of $104.04M. Star Trek’s new total global gross is $315.95M.

Although Star Trek continues to beat Angels & Demons at the domestic box office, the Tom Hanks film has done over $250M overseas, easily beating Star Trek internationally. This presents an obvious conclusion. Put Tom Hanks in the sequel for guaranteed global dominance. [NOTE: I actually recommended Hanks for the role of Pike back in 2006, before it was even known Pike would be in the movie]

 

Comments

1. the governator - June 3, 2009

ha . i saw this

2. 31 Falvius - June 3, 2009

hanks is great

3. Andros - June 3, 2009

Good to see Tom is on board with Trek, after all its beating his movie at home.

4. The Governator - June 3, 2009

To continue:

I’m glad he liked the movie. He’s a terrific actor and a great guy and his support along with the fact that he’s obviously a huge trekkie is pretty awesome.

Oh, and so far, not too impressed with Conan. Maybe this will change.

^^ (Dare I say it, First!!!!) ^^

5. CJS - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks is Commodore Matt Decker in Star Trek: Doomsday

6. TrekMadMeWonder - June 3, 2009

The meteor was a nice touch.

7. Brian from OR - June 3, 2009

They need to put Tom Hanks in the next movie. Even just in a cameo role.

8. Thorny - June 3, 2009

Didn’t Hanks come very close to playing Zefram Cochrane in “FIrst Contact”? Just a scheduling conflict prevented it?

9. sebimeyer - June 3, 2009

“Put Tom Hanks in the sequel for guaranteed global dominance.”

Umm… NO. Please no stunt casting.

10. The Red Shirt Diaries - June 3, 2009

The Kirk’s, Shatner and Pine, are starring in a movie together!(well their voices at least)
I wonder if their characters will have any scenes together?
The movie also features the voice talents of 2 Darth Vaders (Jones & Christensen), Luke Skywalker (Hamill), Data (Spiner), and the Voyager Doctor/Hologram (Picardo). Also Mr. “Star Trek is dead” Samuel Jackson, and super trek fan Jason Alexander.
I’m surprised Mr. Hanks isn’t involved since he’s done his share of animation voicing (Toy Story, Polar Express).
Interesting casting!
Check it out (imdb link below)!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312305/

11. Trek Nerd Central - June 3, 2009

I always liked the guy. Now I know why!

12. Brian from OR - June 3, 2009

#8 Yeah the rumor goes that he came close to signing on. But since he was directing his first movie “That Thing You Do,” he could not take the part. Honestly for that movie im glad he was not involved. Since it would have changed the whole movie. It would have been how they had it in the original version of the story. Picard on Earth and Riker fighting the Borg on the Enterprise.

13. T J Shatner - June 3, 2009

Ground Control to Major Tom,

“Beam me up, Hanky!!”

14. StevenPDX - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks is one of the most versatile, talented actors I’ve ever seen. I love his performances, which range from light-hearted (“Big”) to understated intensity (“Saving Private Ryan”) to just brilliant (“Forrest Gump”). I always look forward to his movies, even when the story and the casting around him is less than stellar (e.g., Angels and Da Vinci).

Hanks in Trek? Well, if Christian Slater can have a cameo, why can’t Hanks?!

15. CaptainDonovin - June 3, 2009

I thought I had heard he wanted to be in ‘Insurrection’ but couldn’t. If he want’s to be in the next one by all means.

16. T J Shatner - June 3, 2009

#14…Agreed………….And don’t forget he’s got the space credentials as well with his great performance in Apollo XIII…………HANKS ROCKS!!

17. AJ - June 3, 2009

My friends in college used to watch to see how quickly I could name a TOS episode during the teaser.

As for “City on the Edge of Tomorrow,” I imagine Hanks will be hearing from Harlan Ellison’s lawyer soon enough. Funny segment.

As for box office, ST09 has proven itself a success, and will soon be shown on planes and in hotels. Then comes PPV and DVD/BR, and it’s a bona-fide hit.

What I find satisfying is that the North American general public has accepted “Trek” back with open arms. These main characters, the ship, and the show, are household brands with a new lease on life.

18. carol marcus - June 3, 2009

Hey Anthony, it’s a little off subject but as a celebrity bit for today, just thought it should be known that Chris Pine was named most beautiful man of june 2009 on the website http://mostbeautifulman.com Just something for the rest of us ladies, and some gents can go and drool over :-) and p.s. thanks for all the hardwork keeping this site in tip top shape!

19. AdamTrek - June 3, 2009

Hanks for Q/Trelane or as a Section 31 agent trying to thwart the Enterprise.

20. Boborci - June 3, 2009

Good idea.

21. Kirkified - June 3, 2009

Star Trek is officially on the Cape Canaveral Launch Pad!

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/Imax-star-trek-movie.aspx?ic_campID=2&ic_pkw=GH_StarTrek-FaceBook_Summer09

22. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

“Put Tom Hanks in the sequel for guaranteed global dominance.”

That’s actually not a bad idea!

If you’re going to “stunt cast”, why not with the biggest name in Hollywood? And the guy is good in everything he does. There probably isn’t a more versatile actor around.

No ten second cameo either. Give him something to chew on. And if he has to die in the story, so be it. He could end up being the most famous ‘redshirt’ in Star Trek history!

23. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - June 3, 2009

Ok. Get Tom Hanks in for the Next trek Movie. Maybe as an Admiral or hey even a bad Guy. But a good guy would be better for him. great to see Trek still doing well. But Hanks. Come on. Get the names right ok.

24. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

#20—-Get on the phone to JJ right now, Bob!

That’s an order, mister.

25. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - June 3, 2009

Hey Bob Orci. Do what ever you need to do to get Tom Hanks in the Next Trek. But give him a great role with a great script and a great script for Kirk and Spock and the rest of the Crew.

26. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - June 3, 2009

Oh and Bob Orci. If you do not get Hanks in the next Movie. You will get 72 wonderfull Hours in the Aginiser Booth.

27. screaming satellite - June 3, 2009

Hanks in sequel as an Admiral or Commodore giving Kirk some orders on screen….

nothing big – just a cameo like Harve Bennet in Trek V or Janeway in Nemesis

plus i wanna see Harrison Ford as well (isnt he due to star in an Abrams film soon?) – actually id prefer see Han Solo in an Admiral cameo over Hanks actually :)

28. Mike Ten - June 3, 2009

The meteor was hilarious, didn’t expect it to come from the direction of the audience. Why give Mr. Hanks a cameo, give him a major role in the movie. I don’t think he’s ever played a villian, this would be a great first time.

29. lwr - June 3, 2009

HANKS IN ST-2011!!
great idea.
to insure global dominance we can have his character, Robert Langodon, cryogenically stored in a sleepe ship disovered by the enterprise.

it will be disclosed that he was frozen in the hopes of only to be awaken at the time of the tribulation in a to ask personally about the questions concerning the grail and the last zion.

since this never happened, or at least has not happened as of the time the big E awakens him, he is real angry and our plot is underway.

we will call it:
star trek II: the wrath of ROB!

30. The Original Spock's Brain - June 3, 2009

He wanted to play Zefram Cochrane in FC.

31. RD - June 3, 2009

#3 I gotta say, the picture is being painted that Trek is clobbering A&D domestically, but A&D is breathing down Trek’s neck. It’s on fewer screens and holding its own against Trek. While it did not have as a big an opening which accounts for a large portion of a films’ total box office, A&D has still made half of Trek’s 4 week domestic box office in 3 weeks, more or less accounting for Trek’s additional opening weekend take.

STAR TREK Screens 3,507 Mon. $1,272,135/Tue. $1,322,790
ANGELS & DEMONS 3,464 Mon. $1,153,107/Tue.$1,287,436

I have said from the beginning, that regardless what you personally think of A&D, it is a steady earner, one that people don’t necessarily rush to see on opening night. I am only hearing word of mouth grow and numerous people telling me they are definitely going to see it. I happened to see it at a 10:30 PM Sunday screening which did not get out until almost 1AM. The theatre was half-full even at that hour and there was applause at the end of the movie. It is simply a different kind of movie and audience and it will have its own life. I fully expect Trek to slide below A&D next week and A&D to continue earning steadily right up to Harry Potter in mid-July.

If the goal is for Trek to beat A&D, then anyone who has not seen Trek at least 7 times, needs to get out there and see it again and again. Perhaps Trek might even beat Terminator this week too. Again, if that’s a goal for whatever reason.

32. screaming satellite - June 3, 2009

actually if they did get Hanks or Ford or Cruise etc etc for a cameo maybe they could make sure they get just enough screen time so they can go on the main cast list/posters/trailers – for the forgien markets!!

gotta help with the overseas grosses…

33. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

As great as Bruce Greenwood was in ST09—I have to say that Hanks would have been fantastic as Pike.

Forget a cameo.

I want to see Tom Hanks as a “guest co-star” of sorts in the sequel. It doesn’t have to be a recognizable character or villain, either. The possibilities are practically endless in the new timeline. But give him a real role, like Greenwood has in ST09. He is certainly worthy of something like that.

And given that he is a long-time fan of the Original Series—I bet he could be had for a more reasonable price than what he would generally command (just a few days of shooting).

But make no mistake—-get him on the posters….and there’s your global box-office right there!

34. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

STAR TREK Screens 3,507 Mon. $1,272,135/Tue. $1,322,790
ANGELS & DEMONS 3,464 Mon. $1,153,107/Tue.$1,287,436

But again, that’s A&D’s third week versus ST09’s fourth.

I hear what you’re saying, but I think that (domestically) A&D won’t do those kinds of numbers in its 4th week.

But in any case, A&D is cleaning Star Trek’s clock globally.

35. Horatio - June 3, 2009

Are you guys sure Hanks wasn’t getting a little help from some cue cards just off camera?

36. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

#35—I doubt it. This isn’t the first time he’s made it clear that he loves TOS. Besides, if he was getting help, why would he get the title wrong (TCOTEOF)?

37. trekboi - June 3, 2009

i love hanks but putting him in yhe sequall is not going to help box office- Star Trek will never do well internationaly because it has such a strong western/american philosophy where they travel around the galaxy helping everyone in these backwards worlds be more amarican like them and starfleet is seen as militeristic.

ect ect

38. Odradek - June 3, 2009

Hanks could still play Zefram Cochrane.
Zef is supposed to be out there with his cloud buddy.

But what about Hanks as Gary Seven ?

39. DavidJ - June 3, 2009

4

I admit Conan has looked a bit nervous and jittery in his first couple shows, but his skits and pre-taped bits have been freakin HILARIOUS.

They’re certainly more edgy and inventive than anything Leno ever came up with. I mean, seriously: “Headlines”? Did anyone under the age of 50 actually find that funny?

40. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

#37—“Star Trek will never do well (internationally)…”

I hope Paramount doesn’t take that attitude. The effects of marketing are cumulative. Paramount should continue to beef up the efforts to export Trek to more than just the English-speaking countries and Germany. Before now, there had never been any real marketing campaigns abroad for Star Trek.

“…because it has such a strong western/american philosophy where they travel around the galaxy helping everyone in these backwards worlds be more (American) like them and starfleet is seen as (militaristic).”

While that may be true for some people, I don’t think it has had enough exposure worldwide to draw such conclusions about how people will react to it. I doubt that many people would have even heard of Starfleet, much less conclude that it is any more militaristic than it is meant to be.

Paramount just has to make a committment.

And Hanks would certainly aid the global box-office, particularly in Asian markets like Japan and China (where the actors’ names sell the movie when the product is American).

41. RD - June 3, 2009

#34, it’s not a matter of doing Trek’s current numbers in its 4th week. It’s a matter of steadily earning another $100M over the next 2 months and coming close to Trek’s total domestic gross. Something Trek will never do with A&D’s foreign gross. While Trek has long legs, it is finally slipping domestically. I fully expect “Land of the Lost” to do some major damage at the box office this weekend too, especially to Trek & Terminator. We’ll see if it affects A&D.

Either way, the real point is: why does it matter? People have been bashing TS & A&D since the start and both are well made movies that offer something completely different than Trek. As you have pointed out, neither gives the greatest ticket purchasing audiences in the USA what they want. Trek clearly does. But since the USA is not the only country that matters in the world, continually holding Trek up as a superior product because it has done so well here is a bit insulting. Trek is very successful and every Trek fan should be happy about that. It’s not going to be as successful as Star Wars III, or The Dark Knight. But it’s not in competition with those movies any more than it is with A&D or TS.

42. Gary the Gorn - June 3, 2009

I saw “Land of the Lost” at a preview screening last night.

Don’t expect “Land of the Lost” to dethrone Trek this summer. The movie is not that good. Wait until it comes out on DVD and then rent it at Red Box for $1. I think if that movie breaks 75 million total they’ll be lucky.

43. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

#41—“But since the USA is not the only country that matters in the world, continually holding Trek up as a superior product because it has done so well here is a bit insulting.”

I’m not sure that comparing its domestic box-office intake (particularly while acknowledging it global weakness) to other films means holding it up as a superior product.

In the United States, the most watched sporting events (and sometimes the most watched programs period) are NFL games. Year in and year out, the NFL dominates the ratings. More people tuned in to see the NFL college draft than to see MLB and NBA playoff games! Now—with that said—the rest of the World couldn’t care less about the Dallas Cowboys or the Pittsburgh Steelers. But does that mean that the NFL should stop being continually proud of its dominance of American sports and the television market?

Of course, Star Trek isn’t even #1 at the box-office any more. But let’s keep this in perspective. It’s been 30 years since a Star Trek film made this kind of money (at least the kind of money it is on pace to make). Of course it’s a big deal! Give us a break.
:)

44. SPB - June 3, 2009

LISTEN UP, FOLKS….

Tom Hanks.

Some extra weight.

Big, black mustache.

Enter: The new Harry Mudd. Make it so!!!

45. Ralph F - June 3, 2009

#8/Hanks as Cochran:

Yes, from what I remember of stories from the time, he was on board (per se) to play Zefram. But he was also doing his own film at the time — “That Thing You Do” — and it conflicted with the shooting schedule of FIRST CONTACT, so he had to pass. He’s a big Trek fan.

And I really like what #5 said about Hanks as Matt Decker — think of Decker in DOOMSDAY MACHINE, then of Hanks in THE MONEY PIT doing the pained faces.

I think a multi-weaved plot, taking in a lot of classic TOS episode elements, would be quite fun. I don’t need a one-on-one villain (a la Nero, or Khan, etc.) but a good story with some fun, action, and character development. And more Urban as McCoy. Criminal underuse of Urban in ST.

46. Ralph F - June 3, 2009

Oh, that’s a fun idea (Hanks as Mudd).

47. Anthony Pascale - June 3, 2009

Comparing daily returns of movies that open at different times is tricky. Although Trek is only beating A&D by a bit each day, A&D opened a week later. Star Trek has actually made about the same amount as A&D since A&D has opened (even though Trek had already earned over $100M at that point).

Here is a comparison of May 3rd Tuesdays (daily / cume)
Star Trek: $2.0 / $193.0
A&D: $1.3 / $107.4
Wolverine: $1.1 / $153.5

Domestically on a day to day basis, Star Trek is outperforming all the May movies domestically (including NATM, Up and Terminator). It is likely that Trek will end up as the highest grossing film domstically of all the May movies. However, it would not be surprising Trek is the worst performing of all the big May movies overseas.

48. AJ - June 3, 2009

#37:

“Star Trek will never do well internationaly because it has such a strong western/american philosophy where they travel around the galaxy helping everyone in these backwards worlds be more amarican like them and starfleet is seen as militeristic.”

Sounds just like the Catholic Church! (A&D)

Star Trek TOS has always been quintessentially American. It’s just never been properly supported overseas, as US Return on Investment expectations always met budget and profit targets, ostensibly.

Trek had a small heyday in Europe with TNG being on the air as a running advertisement for its films. It’s style was much more European (meetings, consensus-building) than TOS. Then, Paramount just seemed to forget about it. Poor brand management.

49. Author of "The Vulcan Neck Pinch for Fathers" - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks: “Q” for the New Captain Kirk….

Just kidding….

50. Closettrekker - June 3, 2009

#48—“Sounds just like the Catholic Church! (A&D)”

Lol. Isn’t that the truth?

I’ve still never seen ‘The DaVinci Code’, much less its sequel.

But I plan on a 4th viewing of ST09 in the next couple of weeks.

51. Driver - June 3, 2009

The next film will still be in prequel mode to TOS, so no TOS episode remakes, please. Leave that to the series spinoff.

52. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - June 3, 2009

I can easily see Hanks as Matt Decker. if they have the Doomsday machine or maybe have Decker go against another villian. The Klingons. there is so much that Orci and comp can do with Commodore Decker and having Hanks would be the best way.

53. rm10019 - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks needs to be in the next Trek.

54. CAPT KRUNCH - June 3, 2009

perhaps Tom Hanks could play Capt April..or Decker or some other character….get Ben Stiller into the mix as well…and don’t forget Tom Cruise…they’ll all want a piece of the action after it’s all said and done!
250 million is just around the corner!

55. screaming satellite - June 3, 2009

lets get some other TOS eps wrong Hanks style:

Operation Catspaw
Charlie Time
Tomorrow is Tommorow
The Deadly Apple

56. screaming satellite - June 3, 2009

54 – Please no Stiller…please no.

57. Pat D. - June 3, 2009

I though Hanks should have played Pike when this film was announced.

58. la'Hom Ho'neH jorDe' taI-VamPyr - June 3, 2009

Hanks was the only thing worth watching last night on The Tonight Show. Conan certainly was not. He might write funny material, but He is not funny. Just boring.

59. Shane Zeranski - June 3, 2009

Wondering if there is a Tom Hanks – JJ Abrams connection already?

60. Lore - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks can reprise his role from Apollo 13. His charactor comes to the future and helps Kirk and Spock figure out a mystery from the middle ages. Call it Star Trek vs Angels and Demons, and of course Ron Howard must direct. JJ can executive produce.

61. RD - June 3, 2009

#50, I think your argument more or less support’s #37’s argument. If foreign audiences have a resentment of the Catholic Church for trying to force their will upon the world, then it makes perfect sense for A&D to outperform ST. A&D tends to hold the mirror up to the Catholic Church and reveal its flaws, however accurate. Trek is generally about imposing its ideals on others. Trek is also a multiple repeat-viewing movie and A&D is one-time only.

Nevertheless, by striping the political messages out of Trek and offering a more child-like experience, without the overbearing adult overtones (assuming all audiences worldwide seek a more kid-oriented fun film like some see Star Wars), will give Trek a new lease internationally. Whittle the story down to the playful interplay between the characters only, add in some much needed humor, throw in a generous dose of explosive action and don’t hammer any particular message and it will become an irresistible and exciting ride like the current film that audiences of any locale will want to take.

Many have hinted that following Trek’s run at the foreign box office that it will become must-see viewing and drive DVD sales becoming its own marketing tool for the sequel similar to Batman Begins & TDK. If so, Trek may have finally turned the corner of perceived American Imperialism to draw a larger international audience seeking merely to have fun for a couple of hours and the sequel will out-perform itself worldwide.

Or not.

62. Dave P - June 3, 2009

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS!! :D

63. The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - June 3, 2009

Somebody mentioned Harrison Ford should be in the next movie…I’d think he would make a better Decker than Hanks. He has more of the look.

And @39:

“They’re certainly more edgy and inventive than anything Leno ever came up with. I mean, seriously: “Headlines”? Did anyone under the age of 50 actually find that funny?”

You know, if you really watched the show, there were plenty of headlines that were outrageously hilarious and borderline obscene, such as a picture of man holding a fish near the crotch of his pants making it look like he’s stroking his you know what and the headline reading “The Return of an Old Town Legend”, with Jay’s response of, “You can see why he’s a legend apparently.” I mean, seriously, people can have various tastes in styles of humor.

64. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - June 3, 2009

20. Boborci – June 3, 2009

Good idea.

I hope you mean the Harry Mudd one and not the Q one. Heh. Tom could kill as Mudd. And he really doesn’t have to gain weight. Roger C. Carmel was not that chubby in Mudd’s Women and only slightly so in I, Mudd. The shirts cause some of that perception.

As for Hanks flubbing COTEOF, well we’ve all flubbed them off the top of our heads at times. I am sure Tom kicked himself when he saw it or thought about it later. Fact is, he knows his stuff and loves Star Trek. And he needs to do more funny stuff.

Hanks for Mudd! Make it a slogan people!

65. NoRez - June 3, 2009

44 – Brilliant. Though part of me would also love to see him in a straight dramatic role. Maybe he could also play Harry’s secret super-serious twin…

I keep waiting for something BAD in connection with Tom Hanks, like he’s a member of the KKK or something – he’s just too (fairly) quietly AWESOME and loves at least 3 of the things I love: Trek, Beatles, and Bruce Springsteen.

Someone let me know if you hear rumors that he and Rita are on the outs, k? Thanks.

66. NoRez - June 3, 2009

(p.s. please don’t take my comment to mean I “wish” he was a member of the KKK – just wondering if the guy has ANY skeletons in his closet.)

(and I thought of a 4th thing – SPACE!)

67. RaymondJ - June 3, 2009

I say get Hanks in the movie but as some new character. Over the years I’ve often wondered why, with his love of TOS, he hasn’t been in any episodes or movies. But some of the arguments proposed make sense. Give him something meaty to do, perhaps in the vein of an expanded cameo that Nimoy had.

68. S. John Ross - June 3, 2009

Groovy. I knew Hanks was a SF fan in general, but didn’t know he liked Trek in particular.

69. SPB - June 3, 2009

Harry Mudd is arguably the 2nd-most popular guest character from TOS (outside of Khan, of course), and Hanks certainly has the comic chops to pull off a new Mudd interpretation. No need to make STAR TREK 2 a flat-out comedy, but a supporting appearance by Mudd/Hanks would go a long way!

70. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - June 3, 2009

Keep in mind folks that Mudd’s Women was not a comedy episode. I, Mudd was. Mudd has range as a character, just as Hanks does as an actor.

JMN

71. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - June 3, 2009

And before Wrath of Khan there was zero argument that Mudd was the most popular guest character. :)

JMN

72. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - June 3, 2009

Well him and Sarek. :)

JMN

73. Liz - June 3, 2009

I saw Tom on the Tonight show. Tom should be in the next movie. I bet he’d be game for it. Tom is a real class act.

74. screaming satellite - June 3, 2009

Harry Mudd ? – ok but only if he gets a Dark Knight Joker style reboot…

75. HHT - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks as Garth.

76. Andy Patterson - June 3, 2009

Guess I need to catch Conan’s new show.

77. Ultimate Trekker - June 3, 2009

Start the chant

We want Hanks!
We want Hanks!
We want Hanks!

78. Rick - June 3, 2009

I would like to see something new in the next movie. I can watch Trelane, Mudd, Gary Seven, Decker etc. etc. whenever I want on dvds.

79. sean - June 3, 2009

#41

“People have been bashing TS & A&D since the start and both are well made movies that offer something completely different than Trek.”

I think this is clearly a matter of opinion. Critics didn’t find either very impressive, and neither did I. Both were marginally better than their predecessors, admittedly, but they should have been far, far better.

80. Moonbrew - June 3, 2009

Garth would be interesting, but my vote is for MUDD.

81. Andy Patterson - June 3, 2009

Those NBC clips never work for me.

82. Izbot - June 3, 2009

I still would”ve welcomed Hanks as Zephram Chochran.

83. GaryS - June 3, 2009

How Tom Hanks As Captain Robert April?
i am sure Orci And Kurtzman could come with something for April to do,
even if it is an altered timeline.

84. The Last Maquis - June 3, 2009

Conan Rules!!!

85. VZX - June 3, 2009

I will also support the Tom Hanks as Harry Mudd campaign. Even if it is some small, flashback bit, having Hanks play the iconic Harcourt Fenton Mudd would be brilliant casting. It is just too perfect for the next Trek.

Bob Ocri and JJ: make this happen! The next one will make twice as much internationally!

86. Joanna McCoy - June 3, 2009

Tom Hanks should definitely cameo in the next Trek film. Maybe another starship captain or a commodore. It would be even better if he was a Westmore Alien captain or commodore. :D

I agree with most of you–we’ve all been there where we misquote something. The Tomorrow = Yesterday thing is probably torturing poor Mr. Hanks and will scar his impression of Trek forever.

Whatever happened to the Guardian in TNG era, anyway?

87. Daoud - June 3, 2009

I still see Paul Giamatti as Harry Mudd. (His orang in Planet wasn’t that far off from Mudd!)

Hanks as Garth is great. We could see the incident that causes him to end up with the Antosians… But as Decker… that would be awesome.

Just as long as somehow we get the Romulan Commander as an ally. I sure wish Adrien Brody could get that role…. This time they’re the ally…

Romulans + Doomsday + B-story involving Mudd. Fanwank fun! :)

88. Buzz Cagney - June 3, 2009

Mystery as to why Trek hasn’t done better outside the USA. I certainly did my bit here in the UK- Seven times! Shame that more of my fellow contrymen didn’t/haven’t gone. The reviews and word of mouth have been great.

89. VOODOO - June 3, 2009

Hanks is a well know Star Trek fan. It would be fun to see him involved in Star Trek in the right role.

That said I have to disagree with Anthony in his suggestion of Hanks as Captain Pike. I just don’t see it.

90. JohnWA - June 3, 2009

61-

I think it is probably a little more than just a perception. I’ve always maintained that the franchise has, traditionally, performed better in the United States, UK, and Germany for a very logical reason. Star Trek is a very “Anglo-Saxon” vision of the future. Bold, brash, and adventurous. But more than a little naive in its undying devotion to positivism and technocracy.

I appreciate and respect the late Gene Roddenberry. But in all honestly, he was writing from a cultural perspective than seems outdated even when applied to the 21st century. To say nothing of the 23rd and 24th centuries. There’s a lot about Star Trek that feels old-school. Perhaps that’s what fans want. And that’s fine. But the critics aren’t totally off-base when they use words like “imperialistic” or “ethnocentric.”

91. Trekker chick - June 3, 2009

@86

Custody of the doughnut shaped sentient time machine was ultimately decided in favor of Harlen Ellison, who, at age 362 at the time, exited the courtroom extending a middle finger at Paramount’s attornies and stating “Here’s your Great Bird.”

92. cd - June 3, 2009

Say the words!

93. David B - June 4, 2009

How about Hanks as the President Of Starfleet his on screen presence requires a role of this magnitude.

94. I am Kurok! - June 4, 2009

Tom Hanks as Commodore Matt Decker. I could picture him playing the final scene as the shuttlecraft is engulfed by the Doomsday Machine.

cool.

95. Red Shirt Diaries - June 4, 2009

“Crying? You’re crying? There’s no crying in Starfleet”

96. Boozup - June 4, 2009

am i the only one who noticed the meteor looked like a potato?

97. Some Dude on the Internet - June 4, 2009

This morning, I’m thinking about Hanks’ appearance, and it occurs to me: Tom Hanks as Matt Decker. Then, I pop on to Trek Movie, and see I’m not alone!

TOM HANKS IS MATT DECKER!

Who’s starting the never-fail Internet Petition?

98. fa - June 4, 2009

I think that would be great to have mr. Hanks in the next Star Trek, but just if he have a good hole. Just put him there to make money would not be a good idea.
And, certainly, it wouldn’t be a good ideia to put all the trek fans actors in the same movie!!!!

About how much the movie earned outside US, I can say that in Brazil, the movie had almost no divulgation, had few roons in the teathers, and, of course, didn’t make much money.
Paramount didn’t make a good job in promoting the movie here.

99. Planet Pandro - June 4, 2009

maybe Hanks shouted out the wrong title to AVOID infringing on Mr Ellison’s intellectual property? Dodged a bullet…

100. Closettrekker - June 4, 2009

#61—” I think your argument more or less support’s #37’s argument. If foreign audiences have a resentment of the Catholic Church for trying to force their will upon the world, then it makes perfect sense for A&D to outperform ST.”

My argument is not that foreign audiences have a resentment of the Catholic Church. I’m not sure where that comes from. AJ made a joke, and I simply saw the humor in it (having been born of a Catholic mother and having married a Catholic girl myself).

“Trek is generally about imposing its ideals on others. ”

Really? I always thought it was just an optimistic vision of the future of Humanity. I suppose if foreign audiences reject optimism in favor of such dark material as what is foreseen in the Terminator movies, then maybe that’s true.

“…by striping the political messages out of Trek …”

I must have missed the “political” messages in TOS…or at least mistook them for philosophical (humanist) messages.

101. Bob - June 4, 2009

Hanks is a good guy, too bad he’s a friggen Liberal.

102. AJ - June 4, 2009

100:

Trek got more ‘political’ in the TNG days. Remember Q dressed up like Oliver North in “Farpoint?”

But usually it was “Oooh! Don’t kill the ‘terrorist’ leader. He’ll become a martyr! “Maybe it’s time to stop the killing.” etc.

It was more about looking for understanding as an alternative to conflict, which is not political at all.

103. RD - June 4, 2009

#100 – Well, this is what you were making the joke about – AJ wrote:
it has such a strong western/american philosophy where they travel around the galaxy helping everyone in these backwards worlds be more amarican like them and starfleet is seen as militeristic.”
You both indicated that this behavior reminded you of the Catholic church. Joke or not, there’s a not so subtle message. If you did not find trekboi’s statement negative and worthy of resentment, then you will not find any validity in what I’m bout to say.

Regardless, there were lots of messages in any given episode. However, one message that resonated with me from TOS more than any other Trek stories usually involved Kirk forcing his views on other cultures. Not just attempting to change those cultures for the better, but specifically forcing the Federation’s and in some cases his personal beliefs on them, sometimes over the objections of Bones or Spock. Again, this is a general observation about Trek and clearly one others have as well. Is this the main reason foreign audiences reject Trek? Probably not, but considering French clothing designers had anti-American labels sewn into their clothing during the Bush (2) years, I would imagine any such behaviors by a mainly white American cast would be equally objectionable. Kirk embodies so-called “cowboy” diplomacy, often ignoring cultural taboos and deriding social and political conventions. His views about politicians and diplomats are clearly stated and he typically runs the show his way regardless of the consequences. The Trouble With Tribbles is a perfect example of his complete disregard for the issues, but because it was a comedy, the serious undercurrent of his personal philosophies were softened.

I have little trouble imagining Kirk in a contemporary tale, going into an Islamic country and showing the local culture that their treatment of women is wrong, parading starfleet women around without covering their faces in contempt of local culture and most likely openly seducing a local woman and parading her around without her Niqab. This is obviously an extreme example of Kirk-like behavior in TOS, but otherwise typical. Whether one agrees with the Federation values and Kirk or not, it is not so much the message as it is the means by which Kirk & Co. affect change which I think perpetuates a negative image of the West, which may be offensive to other nations.

Trek may have been hopeful, but it was “American” hopeful, following on the heels of America’s self-perceived successful defeat of “evil” in WW II with an ongoing fight to preserve the American way during the cold war, the Federation mirrors the global expansion of America as “savior” and “protector” while simultaneously using its power and might to spread its cultural and religious values as the only way to “do-business” with a financial empire that lasted 50 years. As it stands today, whether correctly or not, other nations blame those 50 years of American “decadence” for bringing down the global economy. To ignore that subtext in favor of the overall more hopeful view that the humans on Earth will one day all work together in complete agreement without poverty, ignorance, or intolerance, is to simply view the series through a rose-colored filter. The fact I and anyone else see it more objectively, should not be an indictment of our pessimism. To say everything the American military is doing for the world is ultimately for its own good without regard for the methods employed, or even asking if the majority of the world wants such change, would be a similar comparison.

104. AJ - June 4, 2009

RD:

You totally got my response to trekboi’s paragraph. It was just a jab at my own Catholic faith’s history, as he seemed to describe their mission in a nutshell.

Your comments are perceptive and ring true, except, perhaps the inverted commas around “evil” in WWII. The Third Reich was pretty evil, though one could look at the US nuking of 2 Japanese cities the same way.

As for Kirk ignoring the Prime Directive, he sure did. A lot. But he always had a reason which vindicated him. Eminiar VII, “A Private Little War” all had their ducks in a row.

As for the Federation, it was indeed an allegory of what happens when America takes over. TNG changed that quite a bit, at least for Europeans, who saw Picard, and perhaps Troi and even O’Brien as moving the show away from a US focus.

If you notice, in ST09, Pike refers to the Federation as a ‘peacekeeping armada.’ Not Starfleet, but the Federation. Bob Orci mentioned once here that it was deliberate, and based on a changed perception, and perhaps a more accurate view of the organization’s true purpose in his re-boot.

105. Closettrekker - June 4, 2009

#103—“If you did not find trekboi’s statement negative and worthy of resentment, then you will not find any validity in what I’m bout to say.”

I don’t resent his comments. They are representative of his opinion, and apparently what he feels is the opinion of the rest of the World toward Trek.

I just do not agree that the rest of the World has had enough real exposure to ST to draw such conclusions. I believe my response was something along the lines of the suggestion that most probably wouldn’t even know of Starfleet.

“I have little trouble imagining Kirk in a contemporary tale, going into an Islamic country and showing the local culture that their treatment of women is wrong, parading starfleet women around without covering their faces in contempt of local culture and most likely openly seducing a local woman and parading her around without her Niqab. ”

Lol. I think that’s about right for 1966-1968.

In fairness, we’ve already seen Trek’s view on this sort of thing evolve since then. I seem to recall an episode of ENT where Commander Tucker took it upon himself to interfere in a similar manner with a culture whose treatment of a certain segment of its population he found distasteful and unfair. The results being disasterous, the lesson was that it was outside of his or anyone else’s place to pass such quick judgement on another culture.

I really don’t see how a mid-1960’s attitude toward the superior values of America and the West has any place in future Star Trek stories. It would be absurd to depict such nonsense today.

“To ignore that subtext in favor of the overall more hopeful view that the humans on Earth will one day all work together in complete agreement without poverty, ignorance, or intolerance, is to simply view the series through a rose-colored filter. ”

But that is the very goal of the series, regardless of the fact that the execution has been flawed (particularly when looking at it 40 years later). Even if the method used to try and present that message hasn’t been perfect in every episode, the goal is still a good one.

The method should be improved…that’s all—and I think that’s just a matter of updating the perspective, as has already been done to some degree.

106. Liz - June 4, 2009

I wonder… was that Tom Hank’s birthday present to Zachary Quinto? Tom promoted Star Trek more than he promoted Angels and Demons…. all on Zach’s birthday. Tom seems like the kind of guy who might do that..

107. I have been, and always will be, a Trekkie - June 5, 2009

Can I just “ditto” ClosetTrekker’s opinion on here? Ok, thanks. ;P

108. BigRedBri - June 5, 2009

is the video available elsewhere… can not watch in Canada.

109. Harry Ballz - June 6, 2009

Big Red

go to NBC.COM and dig through their archives….I watched it there and I live in Toronto!

110. ~~TARA~~ - June 7, 2009

If you put Tom Hanks in the sequel I’d like to see him as the villain. You just don’t see him as such which means it would probably turn out great.

111. Ian - June 9, 2009

Haha, this was fantastic! Love the part about Twitter, and Tom Hanks should have a role in the next Trek!

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