TrekMovie After Dark: Trek XXX, Mr. Skin Trek, Trek Corsets & ST09 Erotic FanFic June 5, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links , trackback
In the last few days a few things have come across the desk at TrekMovie HQ which are a bit on the risqué side, but we still wanted to share them with you all. So tonight we have a special ‘After Dark’ feature, including a clips from Star Trek XXX, Mr. Skin taking a look at Star Trek celebrities, plus Star Trek corsets and new ST09 erotic fanfic.
[warning article contains adult themes]
Star Trek XXX
As we have reported before, Hustler has jumped on the Star Trek media buzz with the release of This Aint Star Trek XXX, a porn parody of the original Star Trek. You can watch the first four minutes and an additional clip online and to be honest, it doesn’t look that bad. The sets are pretty good and they seem to know their Trek, check it out.
Mr. Skin and Star Trek
And Mr. Skin (the site that keeps track of Celebs who take it all off), is also getting into the Trek thing, with a couple of new looks at the babes of Star Trek and scifi.
…and um…this girl
In a recent article we pointed out how lots of girl bloggers were talking Star Trek, but I can’t believe we missed this one from a girl from Japan.
Star Trek corsets!
How would you like to spice up your captain’s quarters? How about picking up a handmade Star Trek corset? Evening Arwen has corsets in engineering red, science blue and command gold. The Star Trek Corsets cost $200 and are custom made to size. Order them, and see more pictures at Evening Arwen.com.
Or would you prefer to go to a galaxy far far away?
Star Trek Movie erotic fan fic
The new Star Trek movie has only been out for a month but there are already hundreds of fan fiction stories at FanFiction.net. And of those 92 of them are rated M for mature. Most seem to focus on Uhura and Spock, but of course you get all sorts, including new Kirk and Spock hooking up. Here are just a few titles and descriptions:
Mine For The Taking by lalalamarieme
Captian James Tiberius Kirk is his own man, and will do as he pleases. Aimi Amelia Jenkins is the one woman that he can’t resist.
Primal » by window124
When Commander Spock and Cadet Uhura travel to a unexplored planet to find new Federation technology, the planet begins to awaken Spock’s primal urges.
Lose Control by adevotedreader
They had one night to discover each other. One night where it would be okay, but they had to remember that it was only for tonight.(Kirk & Spock)
The Definition of Desire » by IAmTheGrayArea
Kirk is shocked at how drawn he is to the Vulcan, Spock. So, he decides to make Spcok truly understand the definition of "desire."
Forgive me Father for I have sinned by Donna Dekaren
Spock as a Priest and Uhura’s naughty confession.
find more at fanfiction.net
I’ll be in my bunk
Well that’s it for our first ever edition of ‘TrekMovie After Dark’. Hope you liked it. If you are easily offended or this kind of thing bothers you, why did you open the article?
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Schwing!
Ay carumba!
hmm… fascinating.
My god, Jim…..
So, is Japanese Star Trek Girl this year’s version of Obama Girl?
(Let’s hope so. :-) )
Oh My!
About those corsets: I wonder if Kirk would have requested similar attire for his lady friends at evening socials at his beachfront property on Wrigley’s Pleasure Planet.
It never hurts to ask, I say.
;-)
Kirk and Spock hooking up… I’m sorry but Spock would find that illogical. There is no reason for it and it does not assist in the logical aspect of sex: reproduction
Don’t forget Spockboy and Kelvington’s “Star Trek After Dark”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO9jvOyT1SU
Porn Kirk looks like Captain Archer!
That girl from Japan… I wasn’t sure it was a joke until I finally recognized the song at the end. Now that I know it’s a joke I feel a little less stupid for having watched the whole thing.
I would love to have one of those corsets but holy hell, the price!
So many sociological papers have been written about Trek, I’d be surprised if there isn’t some kind of treatise on possible sexual practices in the fictional 23d Century, which would probably be at least as strange to us today as some of the practices seen today would be to most of those who lived two centuries ago.
It’s like when I found my brother’s issues of “Grup!” Let us just hope K/S never stands for Keenser/Scotty…
I love Jayne. (Hence my name)
I’m getting a corset!
Also, K/S is the best!
I didn’t think Kirk and Spock really had it going on together in the new movie but I’m more than willing to let the fanfic convince me otherwise. For scientific purposes, of course.
Fascinating indeed…
Katherine Janeway wouldn’t approve.
Marina Sirtis and Denise Crosby (ugh!) in the top five???!!! Mr. Skin needs to watch a lot more Star Trek!
Nice corsets. But $200 is a bit pricey for something that I would more than likely tear off of a space babe.
Best article on this site in awhile!
In my best Sulu voice:
OH MY!
13.
Well they were cold and lonely on Delta Vega for months. Aw yeah, some Scotsman on creepy alien dwarf action. Finally.
Guess now we know what Scotty and Keenser was doing with that lone caged tribble now ….*shudders*
Those corsets look closer to the TNG designs to me, so that’d be command red and ops gold. :P (I wonder if they deliberately got the colours a little off just so people wouldn’t think they were Trekkies themselves, heh.)
First Trekmovie brings us the Quinto homo-interpreted video last week, now they bring us these x-rated videos this week. Come on Anthony and Matt, YOU GUYS ARE BETTER THAN THIS!!!
12-
Most of us would find any contact, sexual or otherwise, with those who lived two hundred years ago quite disgusting. PBS did an experiment a while back where they had volunteers living for a couple months as the early American colonists did (no modern technology). After only a week of deteriorating sanitation, the smell of the dirty colonists was unbearable for most of the film crew.
But the sexuality on display in Star Trek isn’t even remotely speculative. That’s part of the reason why this aspect of the mythos is so dreadfully dull. There’s nothing controversial or scandalous about it. Most of it is the usual juvenile, immature attitudes towards intimacy we see throughout American television and cinema. Exhibit A: “Let He Who Is Without Sin.” Far from being shocked, excited, or outraged – many European viewers simply shrugged and wonder why this episode even exists. Risa is positively puritanical compared to Berlin.
Star Trek has always copped out when it came to sexuality. Kirk was nothing more than a horny high schooler when it came to sex. It’s more than laughable today, and I can only stand it when I remind myself it’s nostalgia.
But then, most science fiction writers are lousy when it comes to writing about sexuality. Probably because few of them ever experienced the real thing :-)
Trek was almost always puritanical, until they were desperate for ratings, then suddenly T’Pol was throwing herself all over crewmates. It really should be embarrassing to any fan who is a mature non-virgin.
I’m legitimately curious as to whether “Spock” is immune….
I may have to investigate….
Fascinating.
Wow…
MMM GROK!
pft, what about the star trek kink meme? that’s what, fifteen thousand comments and 500 fic now?
…or, ah. so i hear.
Um, isn’t this all rather sexist?
23 – I could rant at you for a paragraph or two, but instead I’ll quote Anthony himself as he said it best:
“If you are easily offended or this kind of thing bothers you, why did you open the article?”
Point made.
Also, was anyone else wondering for a brief moment if, for “This Ain’t Star Trek XXX” they made their own sets, or just borrowed James Cawley’s?
It would be so much funnier if they *had* used JC’s sets…
^If those are sets they built and designed then they’ll give JC and the Phase II crew a run for their quatloos!
-cs™
Yum.
JJ — I hope you see what to add to the 2011 sequel. We’ll pop over the one billion mark yet!
PS– Odd, but Mr. Skin manages to make the sex in Trek seem… well, dull.
Best update yet.
30. I was just about to mention it. :D
Google ‘Star Trek XI kink meme.’ It’s a LiveJournal community. it’ll blow your mind.
(And yes, there actually IS Keenser/Scotty fic!)
To speak it out loud one more time:
Jolene Blalock is NOT the sexiest Star Trek Babe!
Slow news day? ;)
NIce article, though. :P
You know… This Ain’t Star Trek XXX looks better than most TOS 3rd season episodes…..
This Ain’t Star Trek XXX looks bloody hilarious! It’s exactly the right sort of parody, because they clearly know their Star Trek. The acting’s pretty good too!
Give me Kate Mulgrew over Denise Crosby any day!
No (Empress) Hoshi Sato/Linda Park? =/
40 + 41 – I’ve actually seen it, & if you ignore all the sex, it’s not a bad story.
Basically, the story is a twist on “Space Seed”, where they find the Botany Bay with Khan aboard. However, he’s carrying an infection that induces Pon Farr in *anyone*, regardless of their species. Also, instead of Khan traveling with fellow Augments, he has a female Vulcan & a woman who was overdosed with the Venus drug as a child.
As Dom said, they really do know their Trek! ;>))
Mmmmmmm…….my Pon Farr seems to be coming on a little earlier than usual……
Now, If I could just find my copy of “Sex Trek: The Next Penetration” LOL
Here’s a link to an article published in May by Newsweek (Yes! Newsweek!) about the K/S phenomenon.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/195963
Trek has truly gone mainstream now! Everyone all of a sudden seems to be a Trekkie!! Which means – more TREK!
#25
- Kirk was nothing more than a horny high schooler when it came to sex. -
Really? And when exactly was that?
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K/S has gained a well-established role in the Trek Universe, and the unique friendship between Kirk and Spock – whether you prefer it with or without the allusion of a sexual relationship – is one of the most important engines of TOS. There are some pretty good, well-written and enjoyable stories floating the net. That being said, I’ll never be persuaded to see Pine and Quinto in my mind’s eye when reading fanfic….:)
fascinating…
49. Actually I think the most suggestive thing Original Star Trek ever did, was Shatner putting his boots back on… (in a plot so Kirk could gain the trust of invading aliens, er “Wink of an Eye” I think).
I honestly don’t know where people get this idea about Kirk being randy. Wishful thinking perhaps? Watch the episodes and it’s all about the loneliness of command. Leaving his lack of confidence, until he could get back to his quarter and then share them with Spock and McCoy.
Geese, every episode wasn’t exactly about his busy hands… like “The Enemy Within” :p
Wow. I didn’t watch the videos, but just their covers looked… um… interesting.
And those corsets look… how do I put this… uncomfortable? But I suppose they’re probably not made for the average-sized woman.
And there is SO MUCH K/S fanfiction on that site. D: I go on FF.net all the time, and have even uploaded some things myself, and it gets pretty darn crazy.
Frankly, people need to chill out about this kind of stuff. It amazes me how people get so worked up about anything remotely related to sex (especially in Trek), yet they can sit there and watch people get gunned (phasered) down, blown to bits, etc. Most illogocal….
Typo alert=illogical
That idiot. Their sets are pretty good and it is pretty funny….those idiots.
Re: #49 –
“#25 – Kirk was nothing more than a horny high schooler when it came to sex. -
Really? And when exactly was that?”
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I agree, Iowagirl. In TOS Kirk was similar to most ’60s male TV show leads when it came to women, but more like the Cartwright boys than, say, James West. He was depicted as isolated by command, somewhat lonely, craving love (not merely sexual conquest), and finding it relatively often, what with the accelerated pace of weekly adventures. On occasion, he used his sex appeal as a weapon to get what he needed to save the ship (Catspaw, Wink of an Eye). But he recognized that his duty to the Enterprise would always supersede feelings he might have for any woman (insert “super seed” joke here).
I think that’s the biggest misfire with the new movie, and one that no one seems to mention. New movie Kirk has been written as the post- series parody Kirk, instead of the Kirk from the three seasons of TOS. He used to be a duty-bound scholar-adventurer. Now he’s a horny hot-dog, less brash than brat. I liked the thoughtful, chess-playing (and winning), classics-quoting, Renaissance-man charmer Kirk. I don’t much like the new smarmy rebel-without-a-clue Kirk. Not that Pine gave a bad performance. He was fine. It was just the way the character was mis-written that grated on my fanboy expectations. And please don’t argue that this is “young” Kirk, and he’ll change and mature; only the career-minded, multiple-award-winning Kirk we knew from TOS would have come anywhere close to deserving command of a flagship that early out of the Academy starting gate. Sorry.
Ah well. Cheers!
Scott B. out.
Boborci alert! Get JJ to take over the aborted Barbarella remake! One look at that Stormtrooper white corset and boots, and there’s your yet another $150 million budget from Paramount!
The Trek-derived corsets don’t have the same snazziness.
@ 57:
“The Trek-derived corsets don’t have the same snazziness.”
AGREE!
#19…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Perfect!
Wow, that chick in the Japanese video was slightly annoying.
#23
Apparently, they AREN’T better than this! HAHAHAHA!!!
Trekmovie…
Going where some men have gone before…
Apparently…
;)
And the monkey flips the switch…
#4—That One Guy – June 5, 2009
“My god, Jim…..”
My thoughts exactly!
Anthony, you didn’t review any of MY stories at ff.net! ;^(
#9
Actually I had absolutely nothing to do with that one. It was all Rick, but thanks for thinking of me ;)
Man I really needed a good laugh lol ok let’s see who pay attention what color was the girl from japan?? and if you guess black you were not looking at what I was looking at LOL. Trek porn lol you know they did a great job toa point lol
#51
Ah yes, I certainly remember the famous boots moment… ;) So Kirk demonstrably got laid twice (Deela, Miramanee) in the course of a five year misson. What a lecher! :))
#56
Well said, Scott. My thoughts exactly.
…I liked the thoughtful, chess-playing (and winning), classics-quoting, Renaissance-man charmer Kirk…
Same here.
I’m a doctor, not a porn star!
Re: #67 – It’s nice to find someone with similar feelings on the subject.
Kind of an oddball thread to have this exchange, though. :-D
Scott B. out.
P.S. Just to play devil’s advocate, I’d argue that the scene in “Bread and Circuses” with Drusilla implies some off-screen horizontal action, and is probably the ONLY time in TOS where Kirk gives in to temptation just for the hell of it.
#69
- Kind of an oddball thread to have this exchange, though. :-D -
I thought this board was famous for its oddball threads…:D
And you’re right about Drusilla. :)
The transporter effect in the Hustler clip is better than in the new movie. Although when they first show ‘Kirk’ and ‘Bones’ on the bridge I thought maybe it was going to be some sort of weird pregnant tranny porn. Those shirts are not too forgiving.
Would love to see more of this (just out of curiosity of what the rest of it looks like – frak, that came out wrong, frak, THAT came out wrong ah forget it…) but I think it’s probably better to just enjoy what’s posted here. I’m sure it’s a letdown in the end… oh, FRAK…
I don’t think it’s that Kirk slept with everything that moved, but he clearly loved the ladies (the soft focus that magically appeared any time he glanced at a pretty young thing made this abundantly clear).
But while you’re imploring us not to exaggerate the sexual exploits of Shatner’s Kirk, let’s not do the same to Pine’s Kirk, either. He slept with a grand total of *1* woman in the course of the film, and had a crush on Uhura. That’s it. Doesn’t make him a womanizer, either.
#72—”He slept with a grand total of *1* woman in the course of the film, and had a crush on Uhura. That’s it. Doesn’t make him a womanizer, either.”
Actually, he presumably never “sealed the deal” with Gaila, either.
The other thing is that once you’ve seen the nude decontamination in Star Trek: Enterprise (then named simply, “Enterprise”), all bets are off.
That scene, had it been only slightly hotter, actually might have earned it an “R” if it’d been in a movie. At the very least, a hard PG-13.
And that was during the uptight Bush Administration.
Say, that gives me an idea for a future article: (Putatively) unclothed scenes in Trek. That would include the aforementioned decon scene, that TNG scene with Lwaxana Troi, and possibly others that I might have forgotten. It could be expanded to include semi-unclothed scenes, as well.
With all the uncertainties in this world, it seems likely that the future will be more relaxed about matters of interpersonal intimacy and matters of clothing than ever before. Particularly with global warming and all….
:-)
Run it during Valentine’s Day 2010. :-)
#72—”He slept with a grand total of *1* woman in the course of the film, and had a crush on Uhura. That’s it. Doesn’t make him a womanizer, either.”
That’s all we saw. Just by the way he came on to Uhura in the bar suggests he’d done that before.
Sadly…..that’s the second Star Trek porn I’ve seen.
I didn’t watch the other. It was much too long. An actual episode length in fact which I must say impressed my slightly.
Ok. Bob Orci. Please do not use any of the Trek Porn for a story in the next Movie. But if you want to use the Uniform Corsets for the female crew then by all means do so.It would greatly help at the box office. Lol
Re: #72 – sean, I’d say that it’s the attitude more than the “action” that separates new-Kirk from original-Kirk. TOS makes it pretty clear that Kirk enjoyed the company of women, but that there was usually respect underlying the lust. The new Kirk ogled and leered and innuendoed his way through this movie, like unbridled id. He was much more as I’ve always imagined Gary Mitchell would have been at the Academy, than Kirk would have ever been.
As a married, middle-aged guy, I’m just spitballing here, but I’d guess that the kind of strong, smart women that typically turned TOS Kirk’s head would be more attracted to that Kirk than to the the panting frat boy of the new movie. No wonder this new guy could only hook up with green animal women who “actually like being taken advantage of.” :-)
Scott B. out.
Well, we made it 22 comments before someone started bitching.
now this is just good reporting.
Kinda gives a new meaning to ‘Space Seed’
#51—”I honestly don’t know where people get this idea about Kirk being randy.”
Come on. As with any legend (and I would submit that JTL is a legendary character), perceptions become exaggerated.
I can think of 3 instances in TOS where it is fairly clear that Kirk has engaged in sexual activity—”Wink Of An Eye”, “Bread And Circuses”, and “The Paradise Syndrome”. He also clearly had a sexual relationship with a young woman named Carol Marcus prior to that time period (TWOK).
But it isn’t just the few clear instances where he did so. I don’t know how many ‘passionate kisses’ we see in TOS involving JTK, but there are alot.
And he obviously has a reputation (as well as a past) with regard to his prowess with the ladies.
“All of my friends look like doctors. All of his look like you.”—Dr. McCoy to Areel Shaw (”Court-Martial”). It is also pretty clear that Kirk had a past relationship with her. One can be naive and suggest that the look in her eye toward him stems from something other than a sexual past….but please.
“What is it with you?”—Dr. McCoy to Captain Kirk at Rura Penthe (TUC), in reference to Jim Kirk’s tendancy to end up with a female (at least those who appear to be) more often than most.
I find it hard to believe that you “honestly don’t know where people get this idea” from…Kirk is a legend, and so is his status as a ladies’ man. Most legends are only partially accurate. This one is no different.
But pretending to be surprised that people have developed this ‘legendary’ perception of him is rather silly to me.
32 – Dusk. I am not offended at all. I just think that those of us who love ST are better than this. If you don’t like my opinion, TOO BAD!!!
#77—”No wonder this new guy could only hook up with green animal women who ‘actually like being taken advantage of.’ ”
First of all, it is hard to classify it as her being ‘taken advantage of’ if the act is welcome. That seems to be a rather archaic view of female sexuality.
Second, who is to say this is the only girl he could ‘hook up with’? The guy was at the Academy for three years, only a tiny portion of which is actually depicted in the movie.
And Gaila may be promiscuous, but “animal woman”? She is in fact a Starfleet cadet, just as he is—–45 year-old dialogue aside.
I’m offended they are in Next ‘Prude Trek” Gen Era Corsets??? Let’s see some TOS corsets please
Chickadee Diary of Japan is a cutie. I get a great “Elvira Mistress of the Dark” vibe from her!
#82—-You are of course entitled to your opinion, but I’d like to understand where it is coming from. Specifically, I’m curious as to why this is somehow illegitimate in your mind as an article in the “Great Links” category. Should Anthony not report (and instead ignore) certain Trek-related material on some kind of moral grounds?
Anthony didn’t create this material. He may not even approve of it. He just reported on it. I guess I just don’t understand why Anthony should be anything *better* than “professionally objective” as a journalist.
Perhaps your complaint should be addressed to the creators of the video (Hustler), not to the person who reported on the video’s existence, as in post #23.
And there are no “x-rated videos” in this article. As the warning above suggests, the article contains “adult themes”. I suppose that readers who wished to view the actual x-rated material would have to search for it themselves.
Most of us don’t need to. I think we get the picture as to where all of this was going!
Re: #84 – My comments about Kirk hooking up with a green chick were meant to be funny. Clearly, Gaila is a serious, capable student who is no doubt Kirk intellectual equal. No offense to the women of Orion was intended.
I still maintain that the new movie reduced the character of Kirk to the most basic of Kirk stereotypes. Minus the … dramaticpauses … and weight gags.
Scott B. out.
#78
I seem to recall Shatner’s Kirk threatening to bend a visiting dignitary over his knee to administer a spanking. Very respectful, that ;)
#89—I think he also slapped the same visting dignitary across the face.
42. Janeways Yeoman – June 6, 2009
Give me Kate Mulgrew over Denise Crosby any day!
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Excuse me, Janeway’s Yeoman, but is that your official ‘position’
….
or their’s?
Kirk (TOS) seemsto have left behind many old flames. He wasn’t just promiscuous, but had real girlfriends. Gaila says “I love you,” those she was clearly in lust as well.
As for the appropriateness of this article, it’s important to note that most of us posters are adults, and sexual interpretations of “Trek” have existed for 40 years. It is an appropriate, and much ignored discussion here on Trekmovie.
Unfortunately the Bermanites neutered everyone by Voyager (Jadzia had that randy gleam in her eye quite often. Have a look at ‘Trials and Tribblations:’ along with Bashir’s turbolift encounter, it’s almost a tribute to something the show had lost touch with).
Men and women couped up on a ship should be copulating constantly, and in the latter years of ‘Star Trek,’ they just don’t.
Has some actually used the term “porn farr”? I’m just asking. It seems like an apt neologism in connection with some of these adult versions or (ahem), non-versions, of Trek.
#89, 90
Your memory seems a bit partial, Gentlemen. There was talk about spanking on either side, and the slapping was mutual. Considering the subsequent events, I’d say neither was an indication of missing respect…:)
Correction to 93: “Someone,” not “some.”
About Kirk: Let’s remember Dr. Marcus’ words from ST II that Kirk was many things, but he was “never a Boy Scout,” with which was imbued the meaning alluded to above: That he was, especially in his younger days, a dog of the horn variety.
Oh grow up for God’s sake.
49. Iowagirl – June 6, 2009
K/S has gained a well-established role in the Trek Universe, and the unique friendship between Kirk and Spock – whether you prefer it with or without the allusion of a sexual relationship – is one of the most important engines of TOS.
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Absolutely. I remember a footnote in the ST:TMP novel which [I think Gene Roddenberry wrote as if it was Kirk in 1st person .. regarding his relationship with Spock, he comments [if memory serves ..] on the Vulcan word – t’hayla – meaning “brother” .. and how it describes his relationship with Spock perfectly. Gene as Kirk also comments that of all the various sexual relationships he prefers “the one between male and female”.
#96
You might find this interesting:
http://www.alternateuniverses.com/judygran/footnote.txt
Lots of fan interpretation going on, that’s for sure.
#93—Come now, Iowagirl. It is certainly no more selective or “partial” in memory than the notion that there is no basis for Kirk’s legendary reputation as a ladies’ man!!!
The fictional character of James T. Kirk was without question, by the standards of American television during the mid-late 60’s, depicted as a ladies’ man. The truth is, Star Trek stretched the boundaries of the moral police state that was American television as far as it could go back then.
The notion that a 21st Century interpretation of that character should be limited to those same censoral standards in his behavior is ridiculous, IMO. If it were, then the character would fail to come across now in the same way he did more than 40 years ago.
Moreover, there is nothing which suggests that even a Prime Timeline Kirk could not have been a bit more ‘uncooth’ in his mid-20’s, as compared to the more refined 30-something Captain we saw in the Original Series…In fact, it is difficult for me to imagine otherwise.
“Jim Kirk was many things…but he was never a boyscout!”—-this from one of JTK’s numerous prior female companions from before the 5-year mission (one which, btw, produced an illegitimate son during that time).
The bottom line is this:
There is quite a bit from which to derive the legendary myth of “James T. Kirk: Ladies’ Man” in the 79 episodes and 7 films in which Shatner portrayed him. Is it a myth? To some degree, yes, but one which is unquestionably rooted in canon.
Undoubtedly the WORST Trekmovie article of ALL time.
Way to go guys.
Sasha gets an, um, other-than-family-friendly verb into the very end of that “This Ain’t Star Trek” clip. LOL
Looks like quite a fun little fan film – wonder what CBS Legal makes of it? Parody is rather broadly protected by legal precedent, but Paramount did shut down at least one on-stage parody in court back in the 1990s. So who knows…
#100
Aww, I was talking about the joys of slapping each other in Jimmy’s quarters, and Closettrekker writes me a thesis on Kirk’s courtship behaviour in the past, present, and future…:D
Anyway, I’ve never said that Kirk wasn’t a man who likes the ladies (and the ladies do like him), I’m just inclined to doubt that sex maniac image some people have of Kirk. There’s a lot of wholeheartedness in the relationships Kirk has on TOS – just think of Edith Keeler, Miramanee, and Rayna – and I don’t think that this pattern was solely due to the 60’s restrictions on what you could/couldn’t show on TV. It’s rather the character itself; it’s how Kirk was written, portrayed, depicted, and constituted. He may have been slackier in his twenties, who wasn’t ;), but that doesn’t make him a billy-goat chasing the nymphs around. An illegitimate child doesn’t either.
Lest we forget that the movie takes place in an alternate reality where Jim Kirk grows up without a father and a mother who seems to be missing in action. A younger, 20-something Kirk combined with acting out as a result of his situation?
101 said:
“Undoubtedly the WORST Trekmovie article of ALL time. Way to go guys.”
Agree completely. I don’t know what is worse, Alex and Matt stooping to the lowest level to publish this trash, or some of the responders posting here like giggling teenage boys with woodies. This is what happens when you mix sensationalism with losers! As I said earlier, we Trek fans (the real ones!) are better than this.
I’m a person who enjoys Trek and my reaction to this is one of amusement and a complete lack of fear/loathing/disgust.
If that doesn’t make me a “real” Star Trek fan, I’m comfortable with that. I’ll live.
This article is fine by me.
From “Lessons from Star Trek” by Steve Pavlina:
“First, all the main characters (i.e. the Enterprise crew) behave virtuously. They appear to be guided by an inner moral compass. They’re brave, honest, honorable, just, and self-sacrificing….Every character has its moral failings now and then, but they quickly self-correct.”
I have often noted that not every single article at TrekMovie is for every person. Star Trek is a phenomenon that spans many areas. One of them happens to be more adult than the others. I decided that since this is out there, it is worth reporting on to show how star trek is part of popular culture. That can be of interest, even if you are not into erotica.
The article even came with a warning, even though there is nothing in this article above a PG13 level, nothing that you haven’t seen in an episode of Enterprise or the new star Trek movie really.
Just like not everyone is into collectibles, celeb news, science news or comics or books, should we stop reporting those? I don’t see this as any different. Just like with all those other things. If you aren’t interested, skip it.
And for the record, the Hustler thing has been covered by lots of other ‘mainstream’ websites. Just this week io9 even did a full review of it, and they included nudity in their review, something i would never do at TrekMovie.
And MAJ
You are not the decider on who is a real fan or not, and not sure who are are calling a ‘loser’ but tone it down dude. You dont like the article, fine, then skip it. but don’t get personal. And for the record my name is Anthony, neither Alex nor Matt were involved with this article.
101
“Undoubtedly the WORST Trekmovie article of ALL time”
I have to agree.
Hahaha!! :D
#108 – Right on, Anthony.
I must say, you guys at Trekmovie do a FANTASTIC job of reporting everything that should appeal to every kind of Trekkie. Keep up the excellent work.
#109 — thanks Rick for the support given #108’s response to my post. Perhaps, you, I and others should “take our business” over Trektoday.com, where they intelligently decided to not do an article (with linked videos) on this topic, as well as deciding not to do an artcicle (with linked videos) on the Quinto homo-innuendo video. They apparently have more class on that ST web site and seem to staying more true to the ideals of ST which most of us aspire to.
And I find is pretty depressing that folks calling themselves ST fans would revel in the debassing stuff. If the term “loser” offends these folks, then I retract that and call them “misguided and immature” instead.
“Hahaha!! :D”
Case in point!
“Boldly going” doesn’t just mean to other planets and stars. It also refers to all facets of the human condition. Bravo to Anthony for going boldly.
Re: #103 – Once again, I totally agree with your sentiments, Iowagirl.
Re: #108 – Anthony, you must not be a chest man. There’s clearly some nipple action in that clip with the Vulcan woman above — I’d consider that “nudity.” Not that it bothers me personally. Just saying.
Re: #104 – DiDi – I think you’re right. And at the risk of getting beaten up, it seems that the “fatherless” Kirk was introduced by the Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman intentionally so that we would have this (presumably more interesting) angry, aimless, rebel Kirk we see in the movie, instead of the (presumably more boring) duty-bound, ambitious young Kirk as depicted in “Where No Man…” and “Shore Leave.” Frankly, I find this new Kirk much more of a boring cliché than I imagine a more straight-laced Kirk to be. But that’s me.
Scott B. out.
Maj
no one is forcing you or others to stay. I am sure that in the future we will do another article like this one. We do about 100 articles each month. we might cover somthing like this every month or two maybe. but if you cant handle that…please dont come to trekmovie.com
if you can find another site with the access and scoops and bredth of coverage we have, please do go there. it is an open market and i am not stopping you
Trek has always been about mature attitudes towards sex.
Like many thing in life, including sex and ‘Trek’ itself, a good sense of humor is vital to being able to cope with everything that is thrown at us from day to day.
Sex is a natural function of the species, just like eating and pooping, and we all do it. MAJ posted in 107 that discussing it somehow makes one less ‘virtuous.’ I won’t go there except to say that human sexuality and virtue can co-exist just fine.
Star Trek is very much about a liberalized attitude towards sex (Deltans being shown as a virtuous species in TMP is one example). TOS was replete with references to it, and JJ’s Trek will be as well.
I can believe what prudes some Trek fans are. I have seen much more risque articles on other sites, like io9, this is quite tame actually. And is TrekMovie supposed to not report aspects of what is happening with Trek. I have always liked that this site reported everything going on with Trek. As has been said, why did you even read the article and bother commenting, just skip it if you are not interested.
This stuff is not for me, but I find it interesting that it exists.
Awwww man – this is GREAT! XD!!
I was just showing off the old Randy Spears Sex Trek vids to the GF the other day and commented that Hustler was going to be doing a Trek production – and now it’s finally here! Whoohoo!
Those Randy Spears productions were absolutely low-budget, hilarious, 80’s GOLD for those of you who haven’t seen ‘em!
#56 – “I liked the thoughtful, chess-playing (and winning), classics-quoting, Renaissance-man charmer Kirk. I don’t much like the new smarmy rebel-without-a-clue Kirk.”
Bingo – my thoughts exactly.
The way Kirk was written DID seem somewhat based on the post-Trek stereotyped Kirk, rather than what we saw in the original series.
Not that Kirk was a complete choir boy or anything – Carol Marcus made that quite clear – but considering the age difference between Kirk and the other Constitution Class Captains, and considering Gary Mitchell’s “stack of books with legs” comment among others scattered series hints, one would think Kirk to have been a bit more focused (maybe even obsessively) on achievement and merit rather than attaining his captaincy on ascription.
Then again who knows how things may go next time out – maybe we’ll get to see a little more of that aspect of his character develop when we don’t have to worry about exposition eating up screen time – the curse of origin stories!
You know gang, as much as I’m feeling those NextGen corsets – I might actually be about those Star Wars corsets even more – there’s something kinda dominatrix-ish about ‘em. Pretty hot stuff there!
BTW – thanks Anthony for running this story, I know you’re taking some heat over it, but speaking personally – I appreciate the work.
- 24thCRS!
There’s a “Warp Core Breach” in progress….
#122 – IN MY PANTS!!!!!! XD
Bwahahahahahaha! Za Zing! Cue the laugh track! XD!
24thCRS!
112. “And I find is pretty depressing that folks calling themselves ST fans would revel in the debassing stuff. If the term “loser” offends these folks, then I retract that and call them “misguided and immature” instead.”
What is “debassing”, exactly? Is that the processing of taking fish out of something?
Gods I know I’m going to take heat for that last one – couldn’t resist :P
-24thCRS!
Wait, let me make sure I understand. This is Anthony’s site, isn’t it? Then should he not write about whatever he wants?
Should he not quote Dr. McCoy in STIII ?
“I’ll discuss what I like! And who in the hell are you?”
118. Stardate 1984 – June 6, 2009
It’s perfectly OK for you not to completely miss the point. I can live with that.
er…rather “to complete MISS the point”
Even if im not that interested at least this site gives us something trek related to read. I visit the site daily and would rather find only an article like this about trek then no updates at all.
#112: ” I and others should “take our business” over Trektoday.com…”
Yeah, because your “business” is worth – I’m sorry, *how* much to the various sites that you kill your time perusing *for free?*
Oh yeah, not much of anything.
But do come on over to Trektoday. The folks at TrekBBS will find you…momentarily diverting. :-)
A nice clean punk song by “Nerf herder” who played he “Buffy” series theme, called “Mr. Spock.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-lmtY6sis
#116
-…it seems that the “fatherless” Kirk was introduced by the Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman intentionally so that we would have this (presumably more interesting) angry, aimless, rebel Kirk… -
Yup – alternative Kirk being Mr. Rebel Without a Cause-Always Ready for a Fight-Never Missing a Chance certainly has a more “contemporary” approach, particularly with regard to the young audience. I think I’ll stick with the Kirk who’s become an icon. :)
#”I think I’ll stick with the Kirk who’s become an icon. ”
I don’t have any reason to choose between the two, which is much more satisfactory. :)
I for one think it is utterly ridiculous to critisize over something like this. I watched the video and did not see anything that horrible. It is not like he posted a link to watch the entire movie, sex scenes and all. If that were the case then I would say folks have a point. My Daddy used to say this to me growing up “You can’t please all of the people all of the time”. That is surely true. I think Anthony is doing an incredible job providing us with new about Star Trek. As one person stated, coming to this site is free. He is not getting anything for it, and I am sure it takes up a lot of his time. We owe him our gratitude, as he said you don’t like it leave it
A friendly reminder
posting under multiple names and ‘agreeing’ with yourself remains an insta-ban offense.
I appreciate the thoroughness of TrekMovie’s news aggregation. I don’t have to go anywhere else to find out what’s going on in the Trek world. If the site only reported on the things it liked, it would not be as useful to people who want to go just one place for their news. This site is professional and welcoming, two traits one doesn’t often find on the internet. I think it’s a breath of fresh air.
Personally, I was not offended by this post, and actually found it rather sweetly chaste and respectful, which is why I was surprised by the harsh reaction. This stuff is out there and it can be both amusing and titillating to those who would like it. What’s wrong with that? Did people find what was posted particularly degrading? It seems that the objections are of the inclusion of anything sexual, even if it’s good-natured. Perhaps this is a generational thing? (I’m in my twenties.)
Well dang, I was contemplating giving a response to a certain missing person that has been all powerfully vanished by some Q-like phenomena.
# 133 – You know, I DID think some of those dissenting arguments were just a little TOO dissenting – not to mention unanimous. Lord knows it takes a near act of the freaking almighty to get Trek fans to unanimously agree THAT quickly over an issue.
Anywhoo, I hope your not taking much of this puritan-ish trolling to heart Anthony. The primary reason I like to drop by TrekMovie in my downtime is because of the great angles you guys cover, and the thoughtfulness in which the TM gang presents them.
It’s just a fact that not all Trekkies(ers) are cut from the same mold. The fact that the TrekMovie.com staff realize and respect that is what makes this whole thing Infinitely Diverse and Infinitely Combined – not to mention a lot of fun.
Thanks gang
- 24thCRS!
These articles are ironically appropriate for a Saturday night. This is where I visit to get updated on all things Trek and will always do so. Keep up the good work Anthony and don’t let the prudes influence your coverage.
Well, I see that my POV (”This crap don’t belong here nor anywheres what says its got class.”) is getting crucified in the TrekMovie poll, so I’ll respectfully bow out now. My final word on the subject: I’ve always thought of TrekMovie as a cut *above* io9. io9 is internet dreck, served to the lowest (and often quite hideous) common denominator. TrekMovie has always been, IMHO, much closer to the level of the mainstream media in reporting ferocity and publishing standards. I’m not gonna lie: I think pornography is an inherently exploitative, dehumanizing medium, and seeing it given free publicity on TrekMovie is a huge let-down for me. But I’m *clearly* in the minority.
LLAP,
James
#131
Count your blessings…:)
I dont’ understand this all or nothing moralizing of some. I dont read every story here. I think the celebrity stories are silly, i really don’t care what William Shatner or Zachary Quinto are doing, unless they are doing it in Star Trek,. I dont read comic books or the trek novels and rarely buy toys. But do I demand that TrekMovie stop coverying that or I am going to leave. geez…i do this magical and high tech thing, you should try it. I scan down to the next article. I use a mousewheel I could recommend one for the moralizers. But i think hitting page down works too.
And judging by the poll it is just a tiny group of peole that cant handle it. I hope that TrekMovie doesnt cowtow to this group and they continue to bring us the best star trek site that has ever been made
Re: 137
Trekmovie is *still* a cut above the sites you cite. Have you not noticed?
Btw, pornography has existed since neolithic times. It aint going away anytime soon.
ewwwwwwww!!! The polling numbers for this survey are disturbing.
This type of purile stuff definitely belongs on another blog-site… or at the least, a password encoded entry to gain access if it were to get any racier (I know some of the more juvenile readers in here at times just cannot keep their libidos in check).
TREK has always had some amount of raciness to it, but tact prevailed… this stuff shows none of that.
I want the blue corset. Wouldn’t go so well with my green hair though…
After looking some of this over more closely it occurred to me someone has surely done a story with Deltans with no holds barred, “no oath of celibacy on record…”
I’m not sure it’d be worth my time to bother looking though (I have my own imagination to contend with).
Not to sound like a prude (cuz I’m not) but have to say that the sex topic bothers me less than some immature attitudes that often prevail (but remarkably, the comments on this thread have remained pretty PG-13 –even though the photos of -THE WOMEN!!!- poured into their uniforms weren’t…)
I guess that is encouraging.
Sorry to be so blunt Anthony. The Dorkiness video was too much.
Your site is still more entertaining than 3/4 of the internet.
Congrats!
Hm. The article is fine, the commentary thread, though … yikes.
I knew we still had prudes in the 21st century, I just assumed they were holed up in remote wooden churches peering through gaps in the walls and clutching shotguns, waitin’ fer some outsiders t’ shewt.
How to get away with making a STAR TREK fan film and not have problems with CBS/Paramount – Just make it a porno and call it a “parody” :)
Oh no, more Kirk/Spock slashfics
In reply to the poll: Love it – more please.
On the poll for trekmovie after dark, they should have added a fifth option.
Fascinating.
#131 — Dennis Bailey
Who are YOU? Anthony’s guard dog?
Why don’t you shut the hell up?! People have a right — including myself — to have their say about smut being posted here.
You’ve always got something to say to everybody. You aren’t half as bright as you think you are. You’re one of those who thinks they are some kind of “great sage” or “font of wisdom” but don’t know JACK S*&#!
You wrote one so-so/ok episode of Next Gen and you think you rule the world.
It’s pathetic.
“Go somewhere else” and “don’t read it” is a lame directive to people you and Anthony don’t agree with. The OPs point was — he expected better…oh, I dunno…VALUES? A higher MORAL standard maybe? Than presented here. But, since this site is one of the biggest and unabashed proponents of the gay agenda in Trekdom I admit he’s probably foolish to expect better from you clowns. I sure don’t. However, I give the OP props for having the courage and moral fortitude to challenge you assclowns to rise to a higher standard…futile though it is.
As for “going elsewhere” There’s plenty of other Trek sites…and some of them are better than this one because they don’t take a “holier than thou” approach! Many of us frequent ALL of them.
You smug “know-it-all” Jackass! I would use a Samuel Jackson expletive…but for now, jackass will do.
You catch my drift.
Now take some advice and get down off your pedestal of foolishness.
150. The Great Barrier
Now I see what Mitchell and Dehner must have gone through.
Don’t let it go to your head, man.
Yeah, “This Ain’t Star Trek XXX” looks a lot like the “Pirates” movies, which had that same actor who plays Kirk. Pirates was actually such a well produced picture they made an R-Rated version and released it in Blockbuster. I’ll wait for the R-Rated version of this new one, but it definitely looks fun.
Great Barrier
warning for flaming
150/Great Barrier
That is one of the most offensive posts I’ve ever read.
You can have a beef with Dennis. Many of us do. And they pass, and we move on. Though post 131 was distinctly inoffensive.
You can disapprove of the videos posted up top. Fine.
But the “gay agenda” bit was unnecessary and insulting to the many gay men and women who frequent this site as fans. Their “agenda” is to be left alone to live normal lives. That includes discussing Star Trek in its major forum without being identified as an undesirable group. I am happily straight, and count gay men and women among my good friends.
The world is waiting for people like you to catch up.
154. AJ
Do people really define themselves based on a sex act?
That is what really disturbs me about that agenda.
155:/TMMW
That’s the question to ask.
I can walk down the street holding my girlfriend’s hand, and I am invisible. Two gay men, doing the same thing, are not yet invisible.
I can marry my girlfriend. Those two men most likely have to travel somewhere to do so, but still will attract scorn from a steadily diminishing group of individuals.
The sex act for the ‘moralists’ is designed divinely for procreation. For Catholics, for example, one’s body belongs to God, and the individual has ’stewardship’ over it. Sex requires marriage and prohibits protection, as it hinders the ability to procreate. Gay men or women are already excluded here because the “act” is abuse of the body.
Today, society still requires individuals to define themselves by their sexual orientation. For the gay community, which is fighting for equal rights in the US and other countries, identification allows for organized opposition and action, or for a collective expression of pride.
Those corset models would appear to have been photographed at Vasquez Rocks! Nice touch.
#155:
Most gays and lesbians I’ve known would rather _not_ be defined by a sex act (for one thing, gays and lesbians can be celibate). Most gays and lesbians I’ve known would rather be defined by one of the other dumbass categories people invent to feel better than each other: what borders they’re born between, their ethnicity, how much money their parents have, what sports team they root for, what political team they root for, which dialect they speak, what work they perform to put food on the table and which web browser they use, etc. But we’re not quite to the point where they’re allowed to to that without hiding something, so for the time being, it’s sometimes necessary to band together in a search for basic human rights and decency. I urge you to consider the phrase “no harm, no foul.”
And #150: prudery is not a higher moral standard; it’s just a higher horse.
Thanks 156 & 158.
Good posts. I think I understand the subject much better.
Typically I do not think too much about the subject.
AJ your words were very well phrased. I do try not to be a hater, no matter what the circumstance. How such a simple topic can be twisted.
To each there own. No harm, no foul. I like it.
Here is the perfect logic as to why gays and lesbians deserve equal rights like everyone else: The nature vs. nurture debate is a sham….it should be obvious to everyone by now that people are BORN with a genetic predisposition as to sexual preference, not because of the environment they grow up in……based on that premise the “religious right” should lose their bigotry/hatred because GOD DOESN’T MAKE MISTAKES!
For those here who doubt the “being born that way” argument, answer this question: Would you, as a “straight” person, ever even think of changing the gender you are sexually attracted to simply because of environment or conditioning? If your answer is a resounding “NO”, this might give you a hint of how gays and lesbians feel in answering the same question. Sexual orientation is not a fashion choice, or because of psychological trauma or a phase people go through……it is an innate biological drive that, pardon the expression, goes right to the bone!
It’s the 21st century now, folks, time to grow up!
#155: “Do people really define themselves based on a sex act? That is what really disturbs me about that agenda.”
That’s ridiculous. I know no one who self-identifies as gay or lesbian who defines themselves purely on sexuality or a sexual act.
Do you define your very being solely on a sexual act? I know I do not.
A gay agenda, if there is such a thing, is about seeking equality and living a life of honesty and dignity without fear of discrimination and persecution, the same kind of life each of us expects AND has a right to lead.
Think before inserting your foot in your mouth, please.
#155: My apologies for my last sentence… it was a bit over the top, even by my standards.
#160: Harry, thank you for a well-reasoned response. I’ll remember that one the next time someone accuses me of making *that* choice–other than my usual response (”Yes, I choose. I choose to be honest”).
162. MC1 Doug
Well then why are there these categories anyhow? The Gay Agenda seems to be self defeating in its name and purpose. I think all of these rights they are declaring are already covered in the Constitution.
Anyone being denied any of there rights can use the courts. Hmmm, is marriage a right? I guess when it comes to the children and related legal matters the State will eventually have to become invovled.
That’s the real kicker is’nt it? Because you just can’t have it both ways.
I happen to be a gay man. I also happen to be a life long star trek fan. It saddens me to think that still, in this day and age, that followers of this show, who claim to appreciate the philosophy of IDIC still cannot get past their fear of a “gay agenda”.
I don’t care for K/S fiction, just because I’ve never thought of Kirk or Spock as gay men in a physically loving relationship, but I say live and let live. If some folks enjoy writing and reading it let them ( I also find it amusing that most of it is written by women. NOT gay men ).
I also am not disgusted or upset by reports that have a lighthearted whiff of sexuality about them. I find them entertaining, and there was nothing here that was mind warping. Again, you don’t like it? Skip it. Are you so insecure about your own moral fortitude that you can’t handle a little raciness? Then you’d better not go to any PG-13 rated movies anymore.
Please do not presume to tell the rest of us what we should not be watching/reading/ listening to. Save it for your children ( by the way, how were those kids created, I wonder).
can we not divert this topic into another argument on gay rights, that has been debated to death last week
#164: TrekMadeMeWonder (but perhaps not to become empathetic)
I really didn’t want to argue this again… but I have to ask, “what categories?”
You ask the question “is marriage a right?” Ask yourself this, what if the government said you have no right to marry the woman you love? Of course, the government isn’t exactly saying this is the case now, but those 1,500 some-odd identified benefits a heterosexual couple are automatically afforded just by simply saying ‘I do’… are not afforded to a gay couple, unless they want to/can afford to, spend the thousands of dollars in legal fees required to make it so…
Since you want to use constitution, try this one, “we the people…” Nowhere does it say “We some of the people.” or “We, but not you.. or you or you (pick yout your favorite group to discriminate against).” No, it says WE…
Furthermore, quoting the…
14th Amendment: “A person born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or imumunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any State depriveany person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, nor deny to any person witihin its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
The 1st Article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, states, “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.”
2nd Article: “Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declarationm without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”
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I’m sure not certain what you think gays are asking for that asks, how did you put it? ‘both ways.’ The question is why make life so difficult for one segment of our population–something that should be so simple, so fair, so equitable?
Tell me, how are gays and lesbians asking for something so wrong?
this is just ridiculous
If anyone wants a comprehensive rundown of the history of sexuality in “Trek,” our old friend “Wikipedia” addresses it quite thoroughly. A great read covering all series and books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_Star_Trek
How about we get back to the real topic at hand?
The internet is for…..??
I’ll give you a hint: it’s a song from the musical known as Avenue Q. It deals with what men do on the internet.
While it’s not the ONLY use the internet has, it certainly is used for it.
Point aside:
It’s Star Trek and it’s porn. In theory, I can see why this is a good thing. But on the other, it just doesn’t do it for me. Personally, I like the newer versions of the uniforms. Then again, I’m sure that this hardly revolves around clothing…
#154/156 :: Amen, AJ. It will truly be a great day when people can love who they want to love without being gaped at or ridiculed. But, since we’re all human, and we’re imperfect, that may not happen for a long… long… time.
‘Cause it doesn’t matter whether you’re into girls or guys. Love’s all the same, and you can’t choose who you fall in love WITH!
Shark, as we all know, the internet is for porn.
I like sex. It’s neato. I like having it. And performing it. I like watching it. And I like talking about it. If it’s so bad, why does it feel so good? I say, more sex and less violence. Popular TV and movie images contain thousands upon thousands of images of death and violence and nary a protest is uttered. Hustler puts out a Star Trek porn and the fans become unglued.
Maybe they figure that if they aren’t getting any, nobody should.
#172: “I like sex. It’s neato. I like having it. And performing it. I like watching it. And I like talking about it. If it’s so bad, why does it feel so good? I say, more sex and less violence.”
Yes.
THX
some person here will probably tell you to go screw yourself, but judging by your lengthy list of sexual preferences, that would probably be redundant!
Just dropping by to see if this thread is still as ADHD as it was a few days ago – anywhoo, the girlfriend entity got an eyeful of the blue Trek corset and went nuts for it – and yeppers, I’m thinking a certain Christmas present is now in order.
And I owe my great fortune all to Trekmovie-dot-freaking-com folks! XD
So should I come down with..,say, a sudden onset of the psi-2000 virus around late December and needz myself a Doctor – I now know where to go!
Oh yes, and a big kudos to Evan Stone for being committed enough to Trek that he CUT HIS HAIR juuuuust to play Capt. Kirk in Hustler’s new Trek production. That guy NEVER cuts his hair – we already have an idea what he’ll do for money, and trimming them locks ain’t one of ‘em – so it’s kind of a big deal for a guy like him to lop it off for a role. So if you’re a fan of the adult industry, involved with or circulate within that scene, or if adult entertainment isn’t your thing, I do hope that as Trek fans – we can at LEAST give a nod to a fella whose been a real trooper and shown his true Trek stripes in his own way (even if we don’t all necessarily like\agree\condone or otherwise advocate adult entertainment or adult entertainment-like lifestyles).
After all, we’re not all cut from the same mold.
In fact, one might say that lopping his legendary locks to play Kirk –
- took seriously balls!
XD
(gods I know I’m going to take heat AGAIN for that one!)
LOVE this thread!
- 24thCRS
#103—” I’m just inclined to doubt that sex maniac image…”
I don’t think that image applies either. #25 just went overboard a bit with the exaggerated “horny high-schooler” comment.
And only the first two sentences were addressed to you, my dear. The rest of the post was a more general response to the likes of post #51, who feign surprise at Kirk’s legendary reputation.
#174
I’m a musician, Harry, so there are only a few things that I am good at. In order to be a master of other people’s domains one must be a master of their own.
Maybe I should change my name to TMI-1138.
Oooh, you’re a master at baiting me, aren’t you?
I’ve got to hand it to you, Harry You saw that one coming a mile away.
#107—-Who the heck is Steve Pavlina?
I understand he’s a motivational speaker who writes alot of self-help material, but what makes him such an expert on the characters of Star Trek?
And claiming that the characters behave “virtuously” doesn’t say much of anything really, since that is relative to the individual’s particular set of values.
Apparently, Kirk’s “moral compass” doesn’t preclude him from apparently sleeping with a slave girl who has been ordered to please him (”Bread And Circuses”). I wonder how taking advantage of a person relegated to sexual bondage fits within Mr. Pavlina’s set of virtues…
I take it that’s not a “moral failing”…since it wasn’t quickly self-corrected as the author of that passage suggests.
It’s nice that this guy is a fan of Star Trek, but he’s hardly an authoritative figure on its characters. His interpretations are just that—interpretations.
Nevermind. Pavlina is talking about the TNG characters—-whom we all know have been neutered away!
Actually, Closet, I would submit that TNG characters were shown in a more sexually advanced state that the TOS characters, due in no small part to the differing times in which they aired. I would have to do a bit of research, but I could give some examples.
#181: “Nevermind. Pavlina is talking about the TNG characters—-whom we all know have been neutered away!”
All of them except Data; he’s fully functional.
Well, apart from being destroyed and stuff.
#181 – I always had a hard time buying into the Troi\Riker tension.
When you think of the people the both hooked up with…
Riker – hussies, hence it could be argued that he has a thing for ho’s.
Troi – a-holes and degenerates (except maybe Wyatt Miller), hence it could be argued that she’s something of a trollop – even Michael Dorn’s nickname for her was ’space whore’!
Soooooo – one would think that even with all the ‘oh noes we caaaan’t – you’re my boss!’ kind of tension, that there would have been at least onnnnne day where they had one too many ten-forward martini’s and that woulda been that.
What’s with them needing some funky brain radiation to get past all that? What there’s no vodka, caviar, and slow dancing in the 24th Century??
#183 – Yeppers, at least Data had that whole 24th Century Frat Party thing with Tasha – and there was something verrrry dominatrix-ish about Alice Krige’s Borg Queen – but he didn’t waste any time, that’s for sure!
- 24th CRS!
To the webmasters here….your site is frelled up! I’ve got a P4 at 3.4 Ghz (2000Pro) and 2Gigs of ram…..taskmanager is pointing to firefox……….your site is too busy…..my CPU is at 100% and 143 degrees F….
It shouldn’t be that way……something is wrong in your setup but without access to your server I can’t tell from here.
You should always test with a 486 or P3 because if it runs under those modest machines then ppl should be alright and not everyone can afford to buy the latest dual/quad core speed demons and I should know …I’m a system builder.
TrekMadeMeWonder said…
“I guess when it comes to the children and related legal matters the State will eventually have to become involved.”
Since no relationship is impervious to breakup, a Homosexual relationship will suffer the same ills. If not more. Do you really want the State involved in your most personal affairs? On the surface it seems that Gays do not want the state to tell them how to live. But then are asking for special consideration above others.
“That’s the real kicker is’nt it? Because you just can’t have it both ways.”
It’s nice to have the State recognize a union and make things all official, until things go awry in a relationship, then it WILL BE the State telling you how much to pay, or when you can visit whomever.
THE LESS STATE THE BETTER EVERYONE!
And quit being so defensive!
Let no man tore asunder what God has granted.
Its funny how these article posts JUST DIE after being removed from the main page.
Yeah, unlike some posts that go on forever! :>)
HARREEY?!