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	<title>Comments on: Abrams: Jack Black NOT In Talks For Harry Mudd For Star Trek Sequel</title>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#285---&quot;I would argue, except for the films, Chapel was more of an integrated character than Uhura and Sulu.&quot;

I referred to Chapel as a &quot;semi-regular&quot;. She only appears in 25 episodes. Uhura, meanwhile, appears in 65 episodes. The other character to whom you compared her (Sulu) appears in 52 episodes.

I readily acknowledge that she is more developed as a character than Sulu, but I&#039;m not so sure I would say that about her in comparison to Uhura. While Uhura doesn&#039;t get an episode where the plot is built upon her backstory (as Christine does in &quot;What Are Little Girls Made Of?&quot;), we actually get numerous glimpses of insight into her well-rounded life and personality throughout the series.
 In fact, I think the notion that she is merely there to &quot;answer the phone&quot; in TOS is a misconception. She is an avid collector of art and cultural artifacts, a singer, ana an athlete. She also possesses skills beyond the range of what is necessary to be a communications officer, could be relied upon by her superiors in critical situations, and was sometimes deemed an asset on landing parties.

&quot;You&#039;re the only one who can do it.&quot;---Kirk to Uhura (&quot;Mirror, Mirror&quot;)

&quot;Lieutenant, I can think of no one better equipped to handle the repairs.&quot;---Spock to Uhura (&quot;Who Mourns For Adonais?&quot;)

There are other moments in which she &quot;shines&quot;.

In &quot;Bread And Circuses&quot;, she is the one who sets the Captain, First Officer, and Chief Medical Officer straight on their misconceptions about the spreading religious teachings on Planet 892-IV.

In &quot;Space Seed&quot;, she demonstrates tremendous loyalty and courage with that memorably defiant scowl directed toward Khan&#039;s henchman.

Chapel, at least in TOS, is almost completely driven by her pursuits of unattainable men. After all, even her decision to join Starfleet was based upon the chance that she might run into Korby.

With all due respect to the lovable Nurse Chapel, I think Uhura is a far more developed character as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#285&#8212;&#8221;I would argue, except for the films, Chapel was more of an integrated character than Uhura and Sulu.&#8221;</p>
<p>I referred to Chapel as a &#8220;semi-regular&#8221;. She only appears in 25 episodes. Uhura, meanwhile, appears in 65 episodes. The other character to whom you compared her (Sulu) appears in 52 episodes.</p>
<p>I readily acknowledge that she is more developed as a character than Sulu, but I&#8217;m not so sure I would say that about her in comparison to Uhura. While Uhura doesn&#8217;t get an episode where the plot is built upon her backstory (as Christine does in &#8220;What Are Little Girls Made Of?&#8221;), we actually get numerous glimpses of insight into her well-rounded life and personality throughout the series.<br />
 In fact, I think the notion that she is merely there to &#8220;answer the phone&#8221; in TOS is a misconception. She is an avid collector of art and cultural artifacts, a singer, ana an athlete. She also possesses skills beyond the range of what is necessary to be a communications officer, could be relied upon by her superiors in critical situations, and was sometimes deemed an asset on landing parties.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re the only one who can do it.&#8221;&#8212;Kirk to Uhura (&#8221;Mirror, Mirror&#8221;)</p>
<p>&#8220;Lieutenant, I can think of no one better equipped to handle the repairs.&#8221;&#8212;Spock to Uhura (&#8221;Who Mourns For Adonais?&#8221;)</p>
<p>There are other moments in which she &#8220;shines&#8221;.</p>
<p>In &#8220;Bread And Circuses&#8221;, she is the one who sets the Captain, First Officer, and Chief Medical Officer straight on their misconceptions about the spreading religious teachings on Planet 892-IV.</p>
<p>In &#8220;Space Seed&#8221;, she demonstrates tremendous loyalty and courage with that memorably defiant scowl directed toward Khan&#8217;s henchman.</p>
<p>Chapel, at least in TOS, is almost completely driven by her pursuits of unattainable men. After all, even her decision to join Starfleet was based upon the chance that she might run into Korby.</p>
<p>With all due respect to the lovable Nurse Chapel, I think Uhura is a far more developed character as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: fansince66</title>
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		<dc:creator>fansince66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mudd,or Cyrano;ONLY as minor cameos(perhaps as hired smugglers of the new Ms. Ryder villain; the Crimelord of one of the Orien Crime Syndicates?).

IMHO, movies CANNOT have dozens of secondary characters with elaborately detailed backstories &amp; long story-arcs.That resides within  the province of a TV series that has 50, or, 100 episodes to develop detailed,secondary characters.Movies have to maintain a fast pace &amp; an epic scale in their story-telling.

BTW,that would mitigate against an exploration story-in-movie format;unless it was an outrageously fascinating story of a planetary culture with a historical tale to tell,on an &quot;Indiana Jones&quot; scale of story-telling.

I think the &quot;5-year mission of exploration&quot; should await  the inevitable TV series that will follow a sucessful trilogy of fantastic STAR TREK movies, by JJ &amp; Co.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mudd,or Cyrano;ONLY as minor cameos(perhaps as hired smugglers of the new Ms. Ryder villain; the Crimelord of one of the Orien Crime Syndicates?).</p>
<p>IMHO, movies CANNOT have dozens of secondary characters with elaborately detailed backstories &amp; long story-arcs.That resides within  the province of a TV series that has 50, or, 100 episodes to develop detailed,secondary characters.Movies have to maintain a fast pace &amp; an epic scale in their story-telling.</p>
<p>BTW,that would mitigate against an exploration story-in-movie format;unless it was an outrageously fascinating story of a planetary culture with a historical tale to tell,on an &#8220;Indiana Jones&#8221; scale of story-telling.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;5-year mission of exploration&#8221; should await  the inevitable TV series that will follow a sucessful trilogy of fantastic STAR TREK movies, by JJ &amp; Co.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#285. I hope you aren&#039;t accusing Closet or myself of relying too much on movies for our TOS info. Of course she was more integrated, Majel Barrett was the producer&#039;s girlfriend. She was originally supposed to be the ship&#039;s Number One and helm officer. So it is not surprising she had an entire episode based around her. But according to Memory-Alpha she was only in 25 of the 79 episodes and most of that time she was pining after Spock and bringing people soup. Ultimately that level of development was unwarranted for the character. Well Spock has a girlfriend now (and I have no interest in seeing that further explored or complicated) and  there is no real reason to otherwise involve the ship&#039;s nurse regularly into most of the plots they could come up with for the next few films. Then there&#039;s the argument for more diversity than yet another white blonde Anglo. In contrast, both Sulu &amp; Uhura provide both ethnic diversity, and provide vital recurring services aboard the ship to almost every episode in the series. The movies finally allow some tighter integration which Uhura go in this film and perhaps Sulu will in the next.

&lt;b&gt;#276. Loved Dr. M’Benga.&lt;/b&gt; Unfortunately, adding another character to sickbay doesn&#039;t really keep them vital unless the movie revolves around something medical. You&#039;ll note in the films, we rarely saw sickbay the way we saw it in TOS which is partly why we saw little of Chapel. What&#039;s needed is someone who who will be around from film to film, either on the bridge or holding down engineering while Scotty takes command or is on a landing party (why Scotty ever went anywhere of a non-technical is beyond me), or a head of security or weapons. Besides, I think there is little avoiding Chapel considering we&#039;ve already heard her name called (or perhaps that will be the joke – we never see her).

Hopefully Abrams &amp; Co. will be up to the challenge of creating another couple of new, diverse, regular iconic characters as vital and memorable as as the originals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#285. I hope you aren&#8217;t accusing Closet or myself of relying too much on movies for our TOS info. Of course she was more integrated, Majel Barrett was the producer&#8217;s girlfriend. She was originally supposed to be the ship&#8217;s Number One and helm officer. So it is not surprising she had an entire episode based around her. But according to Memory-Alpha she was only in 25 of the 79 episodes and most of that time she was pining after Spock and bringing people soup. Ultimately that level of development was unwarranted for the character. Well Spock has a girlfriend now (and I have no interest in seeing that further explored or complicated) and  there is no real reason to otherwise involve the ship&#8217;s nurse regularly into most of the plots they could come up with for the next few films. Then there&#8217;s the argument for more diversity than yet another white blonde Anglo. In contrast, both Sulu &amp; Uhura provide both ethnic diversity, and provide vital recurring services aboard the ship to almost every episode in the series. The movies finally allow some tighter integration which Uhura go in this film and perhaps Sulu will in the next.</p>
<p><b>#276. Loved Dr. M’Benga.</b> Unfortunately, adding another character to sickbay doesn&#8217;t really keep them vital unless the movie revolves around something medical. You&#8217;ll note in the films, we rarely saw sickbay the way we saw it in TOS which is partly why we saw little of Chapel. What&#8217;s needed is someone who who will be around from film to film, either on the bridge or holding down engineering while Scotty takes command or is on a landing party (why Scotty ever went anywhere of a non-technical is beyond me), or a head of security or weapons. Besides, I think there is little avoiding Chapel considering we&#8217;ve already heard her name called (or perhaps that will be the joke – we never see her).</p>
<p>Hopefully Abrams &amp; Co. will be up to the challenge of creating another couple of new, diverse, regular iconic characters as vital and memorable as as the originals.</p>
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		<title>By: SpocksinnerConflict</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpocksinnerConflict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>227

I would argue, except for the films, Chapel was more of an integrated character than Uhura and Sulu. 

She had a whole episode devoted to her. 

I think folks tend to rely to much on the films for their TOS info.</description>
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<p>I would argue, except for the films, Chapel was more of an integrated character than Uhura and Sulu. </p>
<p>She had a whole episode devoted to her. </p>
<p>I think folks tend to rely to much on the films for their TOS info.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner_Fan_Prime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner_Fan_Prime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#283 ... I hear ya. Not sure when I&#039;ll get to catch it again. Going to Chicago (where my folks live) soon for about a week, so I don&#039;t know. But I do need one more viewing.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#283 &#8230; I hear ya. Not sure when I&#8217;ll get to catch it again. Going to Chicago (where my folks live) soon for about a week, so I don&#8217;t know. But I do need one more viewing.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t supposed to come back until 6/12, but it&#039;s already showing again tonight. I wonder how long it will stay there. I already caught it there twice, but if it is still there for Father&#039;s Day---I&#039;ll do it again!

I&#039;ve been trying to get away to the Alamo Drafthouse to see it a 4th time (overall) over food and beers. It just hasn&#039;t happened yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t supposed to come back until 6/12, but it&#8217;s already showing again tonight. I wonder how long it will stay there. I already caught it there twice, but if it is still there for Father&#8217;s Day&#8212;I&#8217;ll do it again!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to get away to the Alamo Drafthouse to see it a 4th time (overall) over food and beers. It just hasn&#8217;t happened yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#281---Well, I know where my father&#039;s day outing will end up after dinner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#281&#8212;Well, I know where my father&#8217;s day outing will end up after dinner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner_Fan_Prime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner_Fan_Prime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That Which Survives.&quot; By the way, a friend just e-mailed to tell me Trek was still on IMAX at the Edwards I-10! Apparently now at 9:30pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That Which Survives.&#8221; By the way, a friend just e-mailed to tell me Trek was still on IMAX at the Edwards I-10! Apparently now at 9:30pm.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind.

&quot;That Which Survives&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind.</p>
<p>&#8220;That Which Survives&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#278---I recall &quot;A Private Little War&quot;. What was the other one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#278&#8212;I recall &#8220;A Private Little War&#8221;. What was the other one?</p>
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