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	<title>Comments on: Library Computer: Review TNG &#8220;Losing the Peace&#8221; + Preview of Next DS9 books</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32, the trek fiction world has come on so much that it&#039;s almost hard to explain at this point :-) I think that if you want to catch up, read the Destiny series - they really set one up for the current story arc, which is a bit like jumping into DS9 in the middle of their final two series.

The big gripe I&#039;ve got about the new books is that, apart from a Titan book I just read, there&#039;s very little old star trek, ala TNG episodes. It&#039;s all about war and such.

Also, the character development is really flat in places. Star Trek writers seem to have a current fascination with characters &quot;making love&quot;, kind of the way schoolkids look at it when they&#039;re first introduced to personal relationship and sex ed classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32, the trek fiction world has come on so much that it&#8217;s almost hard to explain at this point :-) I think that if you want to catch up, read the Destiny series &#8211; they really set one up for the current story arc, which is a bit like jumping into DS9 in the middle of their final two series.</p>
<p>The big gripe I&#8217;ve got about the new books is that, apart from a Titan book I just read, there&#8217;s very little old star trek, ala TNG episodes. It&#8217;s all about war and such.</p>
<p>Also, the character development is really flat in places. Star Trek writers seem to have a current fascination with characters &#8220;making love&#8221;, kind of the way schoolkids look at it when they&#8217;re first introduced to personal relationship and sex ed classes.</p>
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		<title>By: John in Canada, eh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in Canada, eh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read a new-ish Trek book in years, and so a little more context for the first review here would have been appreciated. I can quote you full paragraphs from Diane Duane or Vonda McIntyre Trek books, but &quot;Post-Borg Disaster...&quot; wha? I&#039;m assuming that this is post-Nemesis, but a little more background would be nice.  
(Glad to see print reviews, though.) Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read a new-ish Trek book in years, and so a little more context for the first review here would have been appreciated. I can quote you full paragraphs from Diane Duane or Vonda McIntyre Trek books, but &#8220;Post-Borg Disaster&#8230;&#8221; wha? I&#8217;m assuming that this is post-Nemesis, but a little more background would be nice.<br />
(Glad to see print reviews, though.) Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 :: &quot;The Romulan War&quot; is the sequel to &quot;The Good That Men Do&quot; and &quot;Kobayashi Maru&quot;, and will begin the actual Romulan War. It&#039;s an ENT-era novel, taking place probably... I&#039;d bet a year after the events in &quot;Demons&quot; and &quot;Terra Prime&quot;, but way before &quot;These Are the Voyages...&quot;. It takes a different perspective on Cmdr. &quot;Trip&quot; Tucker&#039;s &quot;death&quot; (which was about as bad as Tasha Yar&#039;s) in the series finale. It helps to read the first two books before jumping into TRW. :3

I think it would be interesting to start a series of books set in the alternate timeline. Really, everything could change. Some people could not have even been born, starships never created, First Contacts never acheived... There are so many places to go with this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 :: &#8220;The Romulan War&#8221; is the sequel to &#8220;The Good That Men Do&#8221; and &#8220;Kobayashi Maru&#8221;, and will begin the actual Romulan War. It&#8217;s an ENT-era novel, taking place probably&#8230; I&#8217;d bet a year after the events in &#8220;Demons&#8221; and &#8220;Terra Prime&#8221;, but way before &#8220;These Are the Voyages&#8230;&#8221;. It takes a different perspective on Cmdr. &#8220;Trip&#8221; Tucker&#8217;s &#8220;death&#8221; (which was about as bad as Tasha Yar&#8217;s) in the series finale. It helps to read the first two books before jumping into TRW. :3</p>
<p>I think it would be interesting to start a series of books set in the alternate timeline. Really, everything could change. Some people could not have even been born, starships never created, First Contacts never acheived&#8230; There are so many places to go with this!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 - I think in the case of the new timeline, the sky&#039;s the limit so to speak, and there&#039;s going to be no TNG era stories set in it. Remember, the TOS - TNG - DS9 - VOY universe still exists as they&#039;ve presented it. The Alternate Timeline (Neroverse? ALT? What to call it in short?) is in realtime, if you&#039;ll allow the stretch. We don&#039;t know what&#039;ll happen in the TNG era because its&#039; still 80 or so odd years in the future. 

So one can continue to read the TNG/etc universe stories as they&#039;re set in the TOS original timeline. To oversimplify, the ALT universe is unto itself. 

And the TOS novels I read -- just finished &quot;The Rings of Tautee&quot;, which read like a really good original-5-year-mission episode -- are still part of the TOS original (ORG?) timeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 &#8211; I think in the case of the new timeline, the sky&#8217;s the limit so to speak, and there&#8217;s going to be no TNG era stories set in it. Remember, the TOS &#8211; TNG &#8211; DS9 &#8211; VOY universe still exists as they&#8217;ve presented it. The Alternate Timeline (Neroverse? ALT? What to call it in short?) is in realtime, if you&#8217;ll allow the stretch. We don&#8217;t know what&#8217;ll happen in the TNG era because its&#8217; still 80 or so odd years in the future. </p>
<p>So one can continue to read the TNG/etc universe stories as they&#8217;re set in the TOS original timeline. To oversimplify, the ALT universe is unto itself. </p>
<p>And the TOS novels I read &#8212; just finished &#8220;The Rings of Tautee&#8221;, which read like a really good original-5-year-mission episode &#8212; are still part of the TOS original (ORG?) timeline.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28-

Yeah, 

Nero isn&#039;t the brightest baddie. But then again, he is a &quot;simple miner,&quot; by his own admission. Though I&#039;m kind of glad he&#039;s just a dumb thug and not the clever, suave Trek villians (Khan, Chang, Dukat, etc.) we usually see. It creates a different dynamic.</description>
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<p>Yeah, </p>
<p>Nero isn&#8217;t the brightest baddie. But then again, he is a &#8220;simple miner,&#8221; by his own admission. Though I&#8217;m kind of glad he&#8217;s just a dumb thug and not the clever, suave Trek villians (Khan, Chang, Dukat, etc.) we usually see. It creates a different dynamic.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainRickover</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainRickover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 27
Nero can&#039;t have done that. He has no Red Matter until Spock arrived in the alternate 23rd century (shortly before Vulcan is attacked by Nero). The Hobus star still exists and will go Hyper-Nova in 2387. Romulus will die another time and this time there is no Vulcan where anyone could get some Red Matter from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 27<br />
Nero can&#8217;t have done that. He has no Red Matter until Spock arrived in the alternate 23rd century (shortly before Vulcan is attacked by Nero). The Hobus star still exists and will go Hyper-Nova in 2387. Romulus will die another time and this time there is no Vulcan where anyone could get some Red Matter from.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised a Countdown novel isn&#039;t on the cards. Maybe when Pocket Books get their novel series up to the same point. That said, they&#039;re on the brink of 24th Century Trek becoming 25th Century and there&#039;s a definite difference in perception where that&#039;s concerned. It might only be a matter of a decade, but the knowledge that it&#039;s a different century means there&#039;ll be a different feel to anything that happens there!

It was never mentioned in ST09, but I assume Nero would have zapped the Hobus star with Red Matter after escaping Rura Penthe and before taking out Vulcan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised a Countdown novel isn&#8217;t on the cards. Maybe when Pocket Books get their novel series up to the same point. That said, they&#8217;re on the brink of 24th Century Trek becoming 25th Century and there&#8217;s a definite difference in perception where that&#8217;s concerned. It might only be a matter of a decade, but the knowledge that it&#8217;s a different century means there&#8217;ll be a different feel to anything that happens there!</p>
<p>It was never mentioned in ST09, but I assume Nero would have zapped the Hobus star with Red Matter after escaping Rura Penthe and before taking out Vulcan!</p>
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		<title>By: screaming satellite</title>
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		<dc:creator>screaming satellite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - cant wait for this….Nick Meyer has written a book about  TWOK and TUC 
http://www.amazon.com/View-Bridge-Memories-Star-Hollywood/dp/067002130X?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243807608&amp;sr=1-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; cant wait for this….Nick Meyer has written a book about  TWOK and TUC<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/View-Bridge-Memories-Star-Hollywood/dp/067002130X?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243807608&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/View-Bridge-Memories-Star-Hollywood/dp/067002130X?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1243807608&amp;sr=1-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dovile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dovile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m, too, waiting for novels from the new alternate timeline, but since what comes next after the movie isn&#039;t exaclty set yet, writing new adventures of the crew would be quite a challenge, and also there&#039;s a high probability of such novels&#039; inconsistencies with further sequels. 

OTOH, they can always publish pre-movie novels, like about the adventures of the Kelvin, or a new Starfleed Academy series, whatever. The possibilities are wide here, and till Nero&#039;s show-up, the canon is already known. 
I&#039;d particularly like a novel(s) set in the Federation, Earth in particular, and which would (besides some main plot line) show how the destruction of Kelvin influenced the Federation and Starfleet (like the advance of technology, larger ships etc), which would explain at least some of the differences between the prime and alternate timetines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m, too, waiting for novels from the new alternate timeline, but since what comes next after the movie isn&#8217;t exaclty set yet, writing new adventures of the crew would be quite a challenge, and also there&#8217;s a high probability of such novels&#8217; inconsistencies with further sequels. </p>
<p>OTOH, they can always publish pre-movie novels, like about the adventures of the Kelvin, or a new Starfleed Academy series, whatever. The possibilities are wide here, and till Nero&#8217;s show-up, the canon is already known.<br />
I&#8217;d particularly like a novel(s) set in the Federation, Earth in particular, and which would (besides some main plot line) show how the destruction of Kelvin influenced the Federation and Starfleet (like the advance of technology, larger ships etc), which would explain at least some of the differences between the prime and alternate timetines.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me crazy (you&#039;re crazy!) but the descriptions of those alleged &quot;Deep Space Nine&quot; books which feature exactly one passing reference to a main character from DS9 do absolutely nothing for me, a reader who would be interested in reading a DS9 book about those characters I invested seven years in watching.

Better, one would think, to bill these books as &quot;From the World of Deep Space Nine&quot; ... or some other equivocation.  I know all about and appreciate the relaunch, and don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m glad these types of &quot;off the beaten Trek path&quot; books exist... but I&#039;m still much more interested in Sisko/Kira/Dax/Odo/O&#039;Brien/Bashir/Quark ... than I ever will be in &quot;Iliana Ghemor&quot; or &quot;Rugal.&quot;

Am I alone in this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me crazy (you&#8217;re crazy!) but the descriptions of those alleged &#8220;Deep Space Nine&#8221; books which feature exactly one passing reference to a main character from DS9 do absolutely nothing for me, a reader who would be interested in reading a DS9 book about those characters I invested seven years in watching.</p>
<p>Better, one would think, to bill these books as &#8220;From the World of Deep Space Nine&#8221; &#8230; or some other equivocation.  I know all about and appreciate the relaunch, and don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m glad these types of &#8220;off the beaten Trek path&#8221; books exist&#8230; but I&#8217;m still much more interested in Sisko/Kira/Dax/Odo/O&#8217;Brien/Bashir/Quark &#8230; than I ever will be in &#8220;Iliana Ghemor&#8221; or &#8220;Rugal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I alone in this?</p>
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