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	<title>Comments on: Orci &amp; Kurtzman Talk Star Trek Sequel (and the one after that too)</title>
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		<title>By: Greentea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greentea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to be shown how the vulcan colony is founded, and the challenges inherent in that process -  episodes and movies with a vulcan focus (katra, history, culture, etc.) were usually among the best. That could also tie in nicely with political and environmental foes. 

Also, call me a sap, but I&#039;d love to see Kirk!Prime and Spock!Prime reunited in some form or another. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to be shown how the vulcan colony is founded, and the challenges inherent in that process &#8211;  episodes and movies with a vulcan focus (katra, history, culture, etc.) were usually among the best. That could also tie in nicely with political and environmental foes. </p>
<p>Also, call me a sap, but I&#8217;d love to see Kirk!Prime and Spock!Prime reunited in some form or another. :)</p>
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		<title>By: spaceseed</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaceseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nature as a villain is boring.  We need real villains.</description>
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		<title>By: Trekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, lost of good ideas so imma gonna put my two cents in on a few of them, but before that, im wondering if any REAL trekkies are even commenting here on this movie.  I see a LOT of comments about ST09 being so great, but i didnt think &quot;Insurrection&quot; did all that well in the box offices.  Other comments appear to be labelling this movie as ST09, but of course any trekkie knows this is ST11.  I mean c&#039;mon here, stuff like this is common knowledge somewhat akin to knowing spock has pointed ears, or that standing too close to a redshirt on an away mission can be hazardous to your health (not as hazardous as BEING a redshirt though).

Now about the second movie, I personally like the thought of having no one big villian in this one, perhaps bring back an old race from TOS like the gorn or the tholians perhaps?  Either of these races would make for a suitable annoyance, but also not seem overwhelming at the same time.  Or perhaps bring back an old character to act as the aggravation factor such as maybe Harry Mudd, or maybe even (yes, im gonna say it) even Khan.  I mean lets face it, in TOS, Khan was not a terribly bad fellow, or at least not so bad he wasnt given his own planet for him and his people.  After that mix in a backstory with some mysterious dark overtones and a hidden puppetmaster pulling most of the strings.  Then to top it all off with some sort of cliffhanger it looks like neither the federation nor the enterprise itself can make it out of and you got a fairly sure fire formula for a winner there.

From there its on to the third one (ST13) where they can go through and restore the proper timeline.  After all, the one comment on this thread that gives me any hope for these new movies is this one right here...

As Orci said, “the universe wants to correct itself!”

Now time for me to dis the movie itself.  First of all, if this movie handt used the same characters and the name &quot;Star Trek&quot; it wouldnt have done as well as it had.  Sure the action was good and the script okay, liked a lot of the actors, but it just wasnt &quot;Star Trek&quot;.  As I have been a fan for a great many years I have come to expect a little bit more outta the franchise than that movie.  i expect for there to be at least a few funny one-liners, and i dont remember laughing when i watched it.  Secondly I expect for there to be some camraderie betweeen the characters.  Sorry, but all i saw was a group of hormonally challenged teenagers pissed off at each other.  And lets face it, the only ones that actually appeals to are hormonally challenged teenagers.  Maybe they should hold off on making part two until both the cast and the audience finishes puberty.  Third point i would like to bring up is the fact that this movie never made me stop and think (and i mean higher thoughts that &quot;ARE THEY HIGH???&quot;).  I mean cmon here, this is supposed to be science fiction.  As it looks right now, I would have more of an intellectual challenge from each and EVERY one of Steven Segal&#039;s movies (GREAT martial artist, terribly bad actor, plays one role, is happy, gets pissed, kills everyone).

Oh well, i can only hope this franchise can claw its way back to the heights it once held from the foul and malodorous depths it has sunk to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, lost of good ideas so imma gonna put my two cents in on a few of them, but before that, im wondering if any REAL trekkies are even commenting here on this movie.  I see a LOT of comments about ST09 being so great, but i didnt think &#8220;Insurrection&#8221; did all that well in the box offices.  Other comments appear to be labelling this movie as ST09, but of course any trekkie knows this is ST11.  I mean c&#8217;mon here, stuff like this is common knowledge somewhat akin to knowing spock has pointed ears, or that standing too close to a redshirt on an away mission can be hazardous to your health (not as hazardous as BEING a redshirt though).</p>
<p>Now about the second movie, I personally like the thought of having no one big villian in this one, perhaps bring back an old race from TOS like the gorn or the tholians perhaps?  Either of these races would make for a suitable annoyance, but also not seem overwhelming at the same time.  Or perhaps bring back an old character to act as the aggravation factor such as maybe Harry Mudd, or maybe even (yes, im gonna say it) even Khan.  I mean lets face it, in TOS, Khan was not a terribly bad fellow, or at least not so bad he wasnt given his own planet for him and his people.  After that mix in a backstory with some mysterious dark overtones and a hidden puppetmaster pulling most of the strings.  Then to top it all off with some sort of cliffhanger it looks like neither the federation nor the enterprise itself can make it out of and you got a fairly sure fire formula for a winner there.</p>
<p>From there its on to the third one (ST13) where they can go through and restore the proper timeline.  After all, the one comment on this thread that gives me any hope for these new movies is this one right here&#8230;</p>
<p>As Orci said, “the universe wants to correct itself!”</p>
<p>Now time for me to dis the movie itself.  First of all, if this movie handt used the same characters and the name &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; it wouldnt have done as well as it had.  Sure the action was good and the script okay, liked a lot of the actors, but it just wasnt &#8220;Star Trek&#8221;.  As I have been a fan for a great many years I have come to expect a little bit more outta the franchise than that movie.  i expect for there to be at least a few funny one-liners, and i dont remember laughing when i watched it.  Secondly I expect for there to be some camraderie betweeen the characters.  Sorry, but all i saw was a group of hormonally challenged teenagers pissed off at each other.  And lets face it, the only ones that actually appeals to are hormonally challenged teenagers.  Maybe they should hold off on making part two until both the cast and the audience finishes puberty.  Third point i would like to bring up is the fact that this movie never made me stop and think (and i mean higher thoughts that &#8220;ARE THEY HIGH???&#8221;).  I mean cmon here, this is supposed to be science fiction.  As it looks right now, I would have more of an intellectual challenge from each and EVERY one of Steven Segal&#8217;s movies (GREAT martial artist, terribly bad actor, plays one role, is happy, gets pissed, kills everyone).</p>
<p>Oh well, i can only hope this franchise can claw its way back to the heights it once held from the foul and malodorous depths it has sunk to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Persinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Persinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-Theory.    Need I say more  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-Theory.    Need I say more  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Persinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Persinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would absolutely love to see nature as the villain.   Something obviously from great theory, but &quot;M-Theory&quot; would be my vote, only because it is so fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would absolutely love to see nature as the villain.   Something obviously from great theory, but &#8220;M-Theory&#8221; would be my vote, only because it is so fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: AdmiralXizor</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdmiralXizor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that Klingons are required... given that they have had 20 years to study the Narada. Even though they aren&#039;t known for their engineering prowess, the Klingons should be able to utilize the Narada tech for a decided technological (if not tactical) advantage... which would require a &quot;superior intellect&quot; (KHAAAAAN!!) to truly overcome.  

The decision to  deal with Khan could easily drive a wedge between Spock and Spock Prime... and you&#039;ve got the 3 hours of fistfights and &#039;splosions we all want..!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Klingons are required&#8230; given that they have had 20 years to study the Narada. Even though they aren&#8217;t known for their engineering prowess, the Klingons should be able to utilize the Narada tech for a decided technological (if not tactical) advantage&#8230; which would require a &#8220;superior intellect&#8221; (KHAAAAAN!!) to truly overcome.  </p>
<p>The decision to  deal with Khan could easily drive a wedge between Spock and Spock Prime&#8230; and you&#8217;ve got the 3 hours of fistfights and &#8217;splosions we all want..!  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Piccioli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Piccioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawaiowa said&quot;
As the 12th century Crusaders looked upon the Hagia Sophia and asked themselves “how the f**k did they do that, because we certainly can’t”,

Just a little history lesson...the Crusaders would have NEVER asked how did they do that...because they DID in fact do that...for a 1000 years before it was a mosque it was an Orthodox Church...the Church of the Holy Wisdom.  The christians built it...not the Muslims...just an FYI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaiowa said&#8221;<br />
As the 12th century Crusaders looked upon the Hagia Sophia and asked themselves “how the f**k did they do that, because we certainly can’t”,</p>
<p>Just a little history lesson&#8230;the Crusaders would have NEVER asked how did they do that&#8230;because they DID in fact do that&#8230;for a 1000 years before it was a mosque it was an Orthodox Church&#8230;the Church of the Holy Wisdom.  The christians built it&#8230;not the Muslims&#8230;just an FYI</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not have a species like the xindi reptilian who still thinks that needs to be destoryed in order to save his own species, it would be cool to see species like that appear in the next movei</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not have a species like the xindi reptilian who still thinks that needs to be destoryed in order to save his own species, it would be cool to see species like that appear in the next movei</p>
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		<title>By: dev</title>
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		<dc:creator>dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is everyone saying &quot;i want the bad guy to not be a person and be something like nature, cause its never been done before.&quot;

it has. in TMP. Vyger was a machine who obtained a conscience and searched for the meaning of life. He was pure logic and defiantly NOT human. i thought there were smarter fans out there than this.

TWOK is my favorite followed by ST. But please. No Khan. it would be impossible. though i do agree that kirk and khan were destined to meet, just not again please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is everyone saying &#8220;i want the bad guy to not be a person and be something like nature, cause its never been done before.&#8221;</p>
<p>it has. in TMP. Vyger was a machine who obtained a conscience and searched for the meaning of life. He was pure logic and defiantly NOT human. i thought there were smarter fans out there than this.</p>
<p>TWOK is my favorite followed by ST. But please. No Khan. it would be impossible. though i do agree that kirk and khan were destined to meet, just not again please.</p>
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		<title>By: Meshakhad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meshakhad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could try to do an exploration plotline, but the&#039;ll have a better chance of financial success with a genuine antagonist.

On the subject of Klingons, I think that while there&#039;s plenty of reasons to try and create new villains, we also need to reintroduce critical elements of Star Trek. I suggest that the next film should not only feature Klingons, but they should play a critical role in the plot.

One feature that distinguishes the Klingons from other &quot;classic&quot; alien enemies in sci-fi such as the Daleks or Goa&#039;uld is that they can also be allies. Therefore, the conflict in the next film should essentially be Good Klingons &amp; Enteprise v. Bad Klingons. Perhaps we could introduce one of the &quot;classic&quot; Klingons - Kang, Koloth, or Kor - as a Klingon commander who fights alongside Kirk and comes to view him as a friend. He would then be a recurring character, similar to Shran on Enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could try to do an exploration plotline, but the&#8217;ll have a better chance of financial success with a genuine antagonist.</p>
<p>On the subject of Klingons, I think that while there&#8217;s plenty of reasons to try and create new villains, we also need to reintroduce critical elements of Star Trek. I suggest that the next film should not only feature Klingons, but they should play a critical role in the plot.</p>
<p>One feature that distinguishes the Klingons from other &#8220;classic&#8221; alien enemies in sci-fi such as the Daleks or Goa&#8217;uld is that they can also be allies. Therefore, the conflict in the next film should essentially be Good Klingons &amp; Enteprise v. Bad Klingons. Perhaps we could introduce one of the &#8220;classic&#8221; Klingons &#8211; Kang, Koloth, or Kor &#8211; as a Klingon commander who fights alongside Kirk and comes to view him as a friend. He would then be a recurring character, similar to Shran on Enterprise.</p>
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