these pictures do look great though. i hope they include the Titan….the smallish pic on the cover of my Sword of Damocles copy is simply not enough!

You can’t know that, because you can’t put yourself in the place of a viewer who has no pre-existing bias – you have one, as does most everyone who has seen Trek previously (including moi). It’s like saying “I’m going to pretend for a minute that I have no musical likes or dislikes, and thus decide by listening to a new piece of music whether it’s ‘good’ or not.” The only way to make the new ship out as around three hundred meters long is by comparing it to other Trek ships, not by using the internal evidence of the movie.

Rows and rows of large shuttles inside a huge shuttle bay and the relative size of Kirk and McCoy’s shuttle as it flies toward the Enterprise and over the saucer have nothing to do with “behind-the-scenes claims;” they’re in the movie, and other scenes in the movie establish the size of those shuttles very strongly. Judging just by what’s shown in the movie, the Enterprise is much larger than a thousand feet or twelve hundred feet long. The relative size of details like windows is irrelevant, as the absolute size of such details is not standard.

Of course, come the next film, after they’ve had some time to re-detail the ship to actually match the size now claimed, it could be a whole different thing. (Or, they might change their minds and go back to treating it liike the size it looks, and just have done with it. ;) Who knows?)

#37 – “@30 – are you sure? It really depends on which timeline you’re in, no? I personally think I inhabit the prime timeline, but that’s just ego”

Nah, the ships’ sizes have never been at issue in the prime timeline. This is entirely about the ship we saw in the alternate timeline. (As someone with little interest in alternate universes for their own sake, my primary involvement in that debate is simply that what they’re claiming and what was on the screen don’t match. But like I said to Dennis, come the next film, that could change, too.)

On topic, meanwhile… Holy crap wow… Gorgeous stuff! December, September, October, and June are my favorites so far, with April right behind.

#15 – When I first saw the really tiny version of the pic on Drex Files, I thought it was under attack, too, but look closer at the big version. They’re *building* it.

#27 – Well, the warbird was always established as huge. ‘Course, so much of its size is actually around empty space that there’s less sheer bulk volume of the ship itself than its size might lead one to believe. But it’s still *big*.

#43 – I think you’re right about the timeframe.

That’s what she said.

Shut up, you!

I must have this calendar in a 6 inch format!!! PLEEEEEEEEAASE!

We get to see on a few occasions what this armada of ships look like going agaist a foe, but I want to see StarFLEET at it’s full force. Who is frontline, and who is the warship. Who is the peacemaker. I want to see some military strategy. We know the fleet has some military leanings right? i’m just saying… It’s human nature.

ST: Voyager stinks, BTW. IOMO.