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		<title>By: Jyuune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jyuune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeyl

- Which helped how? The moment she took the bridge station, nothing happened. In essence, that bit was only meant to expand Kirk’s role, not hers, because it didn’t make any difference if the Enterprise entered Vulcan because it would have still taken the Narada an entire minute to detect the Enterprise.

You&#039;re missing a crucial bit of information from that scene. They were all warping into a trap, unprepared militaristic because they were not intending to fight an powerful enemy but assist Vulcan in an possible evacuation effort. Kirk arrived on the bridge to alert Captain Pike, but it was Uhura&#039;s confirmation and Spock&#039;s acknowledgement that help saved the Enterprise crew to buy them some time to jump into a defensive state.

Kirk was a marked man and was not even supposed to be on the ship or even the bridge. Without Uhura, he would have been thrown in the brig.

Also, had that not happened, the ship would have been a sitting duck and possibly severely damaged.

- Same as above.

Same as above.

- Same as above. The Enterprise wasn’t in any immediate danger when it entered Vulcan and the shields wouldn’t have made a difference in the debris field as it was depicted.

What do you mean it wasn&#039;t in any immediate danger? They warped right into the middle of a vicious attack on a planet and the aftermath of a vicious battle. Her information gave them an advantage to be prepared for what they were to enter. They didn&#039;t enter Vulcan space &quot;blindly&quot; like the rest of the fleet - they were prepared.


- I will. That was only relevant because she was there comforting and reassuring him. It doesn’t make her more important, it just makes her more of a use to the male characters of the show.

The whole movie is about Spock. Not Kirk, Spock, despite what many may say. Every emotional scene was focused on Spock, not Kirk. He was the action hero, hanging from every ledge possible while Spock carried the personal and emotional development. 

The whole movie was about how this young Spock has to deal with the fight between picking his Vulcan side and Human side... While the pairing maybe out there in terms of how it delivered, her character helped showcase to the world that Spock wasn&#039;t an emotionless robot. He did have feelings, he did crumble under the loss of his mother, and he did love someone else.

Uhura was his humanity personified, Sarek was his Vulcan(ity) personified. The two characters played a big part on Spock&#039;s emotional display and development in the movie. I do not understand why people just don&#039;t get that.

- And didn’t you also find it weird that after Uhura takes her station that two ‘communication’ based orders go by that she doesn’t take part in? First was alerting Starfleet on what happened to Vulcan which was handled by an off-camera crew member, not Uhura. Than there was Kirk ordering to hail the Narada when it was being engulfed by the black hole. Was it Uhura who said “Aye, sir.”? No. It was Chekov who opened hailing frequencies.

Did you also conveniently missed every other scene when Uhura was in command of her station, announcing when all communication was down? Even in TOS, sometimes Spock would pick up ship transmissions and give it to Kirk. Everyone in the movie outside of Kirk and Spock were completely &quot;useless&quot; by your definition. Don&#039;t simply pin it on Uhura and Uhura alone.

- Again, not only does she not do anything by herself that’s important, her role is strictly limited to ensuring that the male characters move up, not her. Her promotion to the communication’s station may have been nice, but she never does anything while at that station.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeyl</p>
<p>- Which helped how? The moment she took the bridge station, nothing happened. In essence, that bit was only meant to expand Kirk’s role, not hers, because it didn’t make any difference if the Enterprise entered Vulcan because it would have still taken the Narada an entire minute to detect the Enterprise.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re missing a crucial bit of information from that scene. They were all warping into a trap, unprepared militaristic because they were not intending to fight an powerful enemy but assist Vulcan in an possible evacuation effort. Kirk arrived on the bridge to alert Captain Pike, but it was Uhura&#8217;s confirmation and Spock&#8217;s acknowledgement that help saved the Enterprise crew to buy them some time to jump into a defensive state.</p>
<p>Kirk was a marked man and was not even supposed to be on the ship or even the bridge. Without Uhura, he would have been thrown in the brig.</p>
<p>Also, had that not happened, the ship would have been a sitting duck and possibly severely damaged.</p>
<p>- Same as above.</p>
<p>Same as above.</p>
<p>- Same as above. The Enterprise wasn’t in any immediate danger when it entered Vulcan and the shields wouldn’t have made a difference in the debris field as it was depicted.</p>
<p>What do you mean it wasn&#8217;t in any immediate danger? They warped right into the middle of a vicious attack on a planet and the aftermath of a vicious battle. Her information gave them an advantage to be prepared for what they were to enter. They didn&#8217;t enter Vulcan space &#8220;blindly&#8221; like the rest of the fleet &#8211; they were prepared.</p>
<p>- I will. That was only relevant because she was there comforting and reassuring him. It doesn’t make her more important, it just makes her more of a use to the male characters of the show.</p>
<p>The whole movie is about Spock. Not Kirk, Spock, despite what many may say. Every emotional scene was focused on Spock, not Kirk. He was the action hero, hanging from every ledge possible while Spock carried the personal and emotional development. </p>
<p>The whole movie was about how this young Spock has to deal with the fight between picking his Vulcan side and Human side&#8230; While the pairing maybe out there in terms of how it delivered, her character helped showcase to the world that Spock wasn&#8217;t an emotionless robot. He did have feelings, he did crumble under the loss of his mother, and he did love someone else.</p>
<p>Uhura was his humanity personified, Sarek was his Vulcan(ity) personified. The two characters played a big part on Spock&#8217;s emotional display and development in the movie. I do not understand why people just don&#8217;t get that.</p>
<p>- And didn’t you also find it weird that after Uhura takes her station that two ‘communication’ based orders go by that she doesn’t take part in? First was alerting Starfleet on what happened to Vulcan which was handled by an off-camera crew member, not Uhura. Than there was Kirk ordering to hail the Narada when it was being engulfed by the black hole. Was it Uhura who said “Aye, sir.”? No. It was Chekov who opened hailing frequencies.</p>
<p>Did you also conveniently missed every other scene when Uhura was in command of her station, announcing when all communication was down? Even in TOS, sometimes Spock would pick up ship transmissions and give it to Kirk. Everyone in the movie outside of Kirk and Spock were completely &#8220;useless&#8221; by your definition. Don&#8217;t simply pin it on Uhura and Uhura alone.</p>
<p>- Again, not only does she not do anything by herself that’s important, her role is strictly limited to ensuring that the male characters move up, not her. Her promotion to the communication’s station may have been nice, but she never does anything while at that station.</p>
<p>Look above</p>
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		<title>By: mamasaymamasagoomagoosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mamasaymamasagoomagoosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Wars Rocks!

LOL, Sorry.  I absolutly loved the new Star Trek and for me and many other ladies we can&#039;t wait to see more of the Spock/Uhura thing.  It just has to be more subtle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Wars Rocks!</p>
<p>LOL, Sorry.  I absolutly loved the new Star Trek and for me and many other ladies we can&#8217;t wait to see more of the Spock/Uhura thing.  It just has to be more subtle.</p>
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		<title>By: Ston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with &quot;Greg H.&quot; here folks.  I honestly feel like it&#039;s an &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot; mentality.  People are constantly asked are they &quot;Trekkies&quot; or &quot;Trekkers&quot; it&#039;s silly.  I am neither.  I loved the show in the 60&#039;s, at least the first 2 seasons.  How many times have I seen every episode? Truthfully I have seen every first season episode well over 300 times...probably hundreds more.  Second season somewhere around the same.  It&#039;s not my life, however I loved the show.  THAT show.  So I refer to Trek as that.  I never got too wrapped up in all the Trek Universe stuff that came after.  I&#039;m not saying they were bad, I&#039;m just saying Star Trek was that, the show I liked.  Star Trek NextGen is a show I didn&#039;t care for but that&#039;s my own opinion.  I&#039;m NOT SAYING IT&#039;S BAD, just not a show I totally dug.  I wonder how many people would change their tune if they made a academy days movie about the next gen.  Instead of Picard being sharp and intelligent with a british or french accent (sorry not sure which), he was a loose cannon calling security guards &quot;cupcake&quot; with a german accent and starfleet giving him the enterprise hours after being reprimanded (as a cadet) or better yet, Data (prime-BTW, I too hate this word) tells his younger self to be more of a computer and don&#039;t seek to be human (basically changing the entire character of Data).  All I&#039;m saying is this movie was lazily made.  Not &quot;my&quot; Star Trek...but rather &quot;Their&quot; Star Trek.  Which is fine, I&#039;m happy with my BluRay Season1 and Season2 on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with &#8220;Greg H.&#8221; here folks.  I honestly feel like it&#8217;s an &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; mentality.  People are constantly asked are they &#8220;Trekkies&#8221; or &#8220;Trekkers&#8221; it&#8217;s silly.  I am neither.  I loved the show in the 60&#8217;s, at least the first 2 seasons.  How many times have I seen every episode? Truthfully I have seen every first season episode well over 300 times&#8230;probably hundreds more.  Second season somewhere around the same.  It&#8217;s not my life, however I loved the show.  THAT show.  So I refer to Trek as that.  I never got too wrapped up in all the Trek Universe stuff that came after.  I&#8217;m not saying they were bad, I&#8217;m just saying Star Trek was that, the show I liked.  Star Trek NextGen is a show I didn&#8217;t care for but that&#8217;s my own opinion.  I&#8217;m NOT SAYING IT&#8217;S BAD, just not a show I totally dug.  I wonder how many people would change their tune if they made a academy days movie about the next gen.  Instead of Picard being sharp and intelligent with a british or french accent (sorry not sure which), he was a loose cannon calling security guards &#8220;cupcake&#8221; with a german accent and starfleet giving him the enterprise hours after being reprimanded (as a cadet) or better yet, Data (prime-BTW, I too hate this word) tells his younger self to be more of a computer and don&#8217;t seek to be human (basically changing the entire character of Data).  All I&#8217;m saying is this movie was lazily made.  Not &#8220;my&#8221; Star Trek&#8230;but rather &#8220;Their&#8221; Star Trek.  Which is fine, I&#8217;m happy with my BluRay Season1 and Season2 on the horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and P.S.

I&#039;m already tired of using the word &quot;prime&quot; when referring to the correct universe.  

Plus it sounds stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and P.S.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already tired of using the word &#8220;prime&#8221; when referring to the correct universe.  </p>
<p>Plus it sounds stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!  Why are you people trying so damn hard to fit these old novels into the &quot;new continuity???&quot;

Leave JJ Abrams on his island.  Don&#039;t let some arrogant rogue director from outside the Star Trek circle come in and redefine your universe.

Why do you accept it?  What does Zoe know about Uhura? Use your time, efforts, talents and treasure to hold JJ Abrams accountable...if not to the &quot;prime&quot; ST universe...then at least to non-lazy, thoughtful storytelling.

And to the guy who likes the &quot;cover art&quot;....take a look at &quot;Uhura&#039;s Song.&quot;  We see Spock in a motion picture uniform and Uhura in a classic red uniform.  Talk about recycling stock photos.  At least match your timeframes...unless you know NOTHING about Star Trek.  He must be related to Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci.  

Wonder how THAT fits into the &quot;new reality...?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!  Why are you people trying so damn hard to fit these old novels into the &#8220;new continuity???&#8221;</p>
<p>Leave JJ Abrams on his island.  Don&#8217;t let some arrogant rogue director from outside the Star Trek circle come in and redefine your universe.</p>
<p>Why do you accept it?  What does Zoe know about Uhura? Use your time, efforts, talents and treasure to hold JJ Abrams accountable&#8230;if not to the &#8220;prime&#8221; ST universe&#8230;then at least to non-lazy, thoughtful storytelling.</p>
<p>And to the guy who likes the &#8220;cover art&#8221;&#8230;.take a look at &#8220;Uhura&#8217;s Song.&#8221;  We see Spock in a motion picture uniform and Uhura in a classic red uniform.  Talk about recycling stock photos.  At least match your timeframes&#8230;unless you know NOTHING about Star Trek.  He must be related to Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci.  </p>
<p>Wonder how THAT fits into the &#8220;new reality&#8230;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with you above me #32, devon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you above me #32, devon</p>
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		<title>By: devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved all 3 Uhura based novels, as well as any other that depicts her in a positive light! She has always been a favorite of mine, and continues to be in the alternate timeline as well! Nichelle Nichols and Zoe Saldana are both wonderful as Nyota Uhura(isn&#039;t it wonderful her 1st name was finally acknowledged in canon after 42+ years?!). Hopefully Zoe&#039;s Uhura won&#039;t be held back by sexism as Nichelle&#039;s  Uhura suffered in the original series! Uhura, old &amp; new, 1966 vs. 2009,Nichelle or Zoe... ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
Also don&#039;t understand any issues with Uhura/Spock romance as these 2 were flirtatious @ times, and their relationship can develop more intimately in the divergent timeline!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved all 3 Uhura based novels, as well as any other that depicts her in a positive light! She has always been a favorite of mine, and continues to be in the alternate timeline as well! Nichelle Nichols and Zoe Saldana are both wonderful as Nyota Uhura(isn&#8217;t it wonderful her 1st name was finally acknowledged in canon after 42+ years?!). Hopefully Zoe&#8217;s Uhura won&#8217;t be held back by sexism as Nichelle&#8217;s  Uhura suffered in the original series! Uhura, old &amp; new, 1966 vs. 2009,Nichelle or Zoe&#8230; ROCKS!!!!!!!!!<br />
Also don&#8217;t understand any issues with Uhura/Spock romance as these 2 were flirtatious @ times, and their relationship can develop more intimately in the divergent timeline!!</p>
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		<title>By: wkiryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>wkiryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another relevent Uhura novel...Uhura&#039;s first name was created by author William Rotsler for his book Star Trek II Biographies.  Another book in that series &quot;Star Trek II short stories&quot; has the distinction of depicting the Enterprise upside down on the cover!



@17
&gt;However, I do appreciate when (very rarely) the authors of various TREK &gt;novels try to present the timeframe near the story’s beginning, or even &gt;with a blurb (”This novel takes place during the original 5 year mission, &gt;shortly after the ENTERPRISE’s encounter with the Planet Killer” or &gt;something like that).

Don&#039;t 60% of star trek novels reference City on the Edge of Forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another relevent Uhura novel&#8230;Uhura&#8217;s first name was created by author William Rotsler for his book Star Trek II Biographies.  Another book in that series &#8220;Star Trek II short stories&#8221; has the distinction of depicting the Enterprise upside down on the cover!</p>
<p>@17<br />
&gt;However, I do appreciate when (very rarely) the authors of various TREK &gt;novels try to present the timeframe near the story’s beginning, or even &gt;with a blurb (”This novel takes place during the original 5 year mission, &gt;shortly after the ENTERPRISE’s encounter with the Planet Killer” or &gt;something like that).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t 60% of star trek novels reference City on the Edge of Forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Izbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I can definitely say positively about &quot;Tears of the Singers&quot; and &quot;Uhura&#039;s Song&quot; is how much I loved those Boris Vallejo covers! Boris was one of the great fantasy cover artists at the time and his Trek paintings never disappointed. Can&#039;t say the same for Keith Birdsong who did the cover for &quot;Firestorm&quot; above. He relied so heavily on studio promo photos that he reused the same portraits over and over and over. Boris worked in oils whereas Birdsong did mixed media -- colored pencils and gauche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I can definitely say positively about &#8220;Tears of the Singers&#8221; and &#8220;Uhura&#8217;s Song&#8221; is how much I loved those Boris Vallejo covers! Boris was one of the great fantasy cover artists at the time and his Trek paintings never disappointed. Can&#8217;t say the same for Keith Birdsong who did the cover for &#8220;Firestorm&#8221; above. He relied so heavily on studio promo photos that he reused the same portraits over and over and over. Boris worked in oils whereas Birdsong did mixed media &#8212; colored pencils and gauche.</p>
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		<title>By: Robby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, that book cover brings back some memories.  I don&#039;t remember all the details, but I do remember that I really enjoyed &quot;Uhura&#039;s Song.&quot; As I recall, it was very detailed in the building of the cat people and their world, and I&#039;ve always had a special place for Uhura, having a linguistic bent myself. I recommend a read; in my case, a re-read.  

Also, on a side note, I just watched Transformers 2. What crap. The reinvigoration of ST was nice; but, after both Romulus and Vulcan, I fear for Kronos and Earth at their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, that book cover brings back some memories.  I don&#8217;t remember all the details, but I do remember that I really enjoyed &#8220;Uhura&#8217;s Song.&#8221; As I recall, it was very detailed in the building of the cat people and their world, and I&#8217;ve always had a special place for Uhura, having a linguistic bent myself. I recommend a read; in my case, a re-read.  </p>
<p>Also, on a side note, I just watched Transformers 2. What crap. The reinvigoration of ST was nice; but, after both Romulus and Vulcan, I fear for Kronos and Earth at their hands.</p>
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