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	<title>Comments on: More Star Trek Sequel Talk From Orci &amp; Kurtzman &#8211; Is There A Leading Candidate For New Khan?</title>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the idea of the reboot was not to redo the original series?  Seriously, making a Kahn movie would just be horrible and would clearly show that the writers are not creative enough to develop new villians.

Though the idea of introducing Borg and Q to Captian Kirk is an something that it I find tempting.  Perhaps since there are these new singularities in Federation space where Vulcan was located and where Narda was destoryed perhaps this causes Borg to venture to Federation space 80 years earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the idea of the reboot was not to redo the original series?  Seriously, making a Kahn movie would just be horrible and would clearly show that the writers are not creative enough to develop new villians.</p>
<p>Though the idea of introducing Borg and Q to Captian Kirk is an something that it I find tempting.  Perhaps since there are these new singularities in Federation space where Vulcan was located and where Narda was destoryed perhaps this causes Borg to venture to Federation space 80 years earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Japz Lapeno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Japz Lapeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However they do it, if they&#039;re going to, they just better not do a weird remake of Space Seed and Wrath of Khan all at once.  I want to see the characters cross paths in a different way, or not at all.  But i&#039;d prefer to see something new, or something branching off of where the last movie left off.

I&#039;d actually like to see the Enterprise crew run into Kang, Kor, and Koloth.  All at once.  Hehehe...  Maybe have them stuck in some diplomatic mission with the Klingons gone horribly wrong with a young Curzon Dax onboard.  Sorry, DS9 fan.

The reusing of characters from previous canon should be done carefully and not too often or you end up with something ridiculous like what i came up with above that would only appeal to a small minority of people.  Khan&#039;s ok to do cause he&#039;s an interesting character that has a lot of potential for more than a really good revenge plot.

They have to play to the old and new fans that enjoyed the last movie, while still finding a way to draw in more new fans, so using old characters and old stories may not be the best way to go.  Characters maybe, but not stories.  They gave us a great ride this year, but they set the bar pretty high for themselves the next time around, so I just hope they can live up to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However they do it, if they&#8217;re going to, they just better not do a weird remake of Space Seed and Wrath of Khan all at once.  I want to see the characters cross paths in a different way, or not at all.  But i&#8217;d prefer to see something new, or something branching off of where the last movie left off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually like to see the Enterprise crew run into Kang, Kor, and Koloth.  All at once.  Hehehe&#8230;  Maybe have them stuck in some diplomatic mission with the Klingons gone horribly wrong with a young Curzon Dax onboard.  Sorry, DS9 fan.</p>
<p>The reusing of characters from previous canon should be done carefully and not too often or you end up with something ridiculous like what i came up with above that would only appeal to a small minority of people.  Khan&#8217;s ok to do cause he&#8217;s an interesting character that has a lot of potential for more than a really good revenge plot.</p>
<p>They have to play to the old and new fans that enjoyed the last movie, while still finding a way to draw in more new fans, so using old characters and old stories may not be the best way to go.  Characters maybe, but not stories.  They gave us a great ride this year, but they set the bar pretty high for themselves the next time around, so I just hope they can live up to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they use Khan as the villian the movie should premiere in *Cannes!

*(joke only works if you pronounce both words the same way)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they use Khan as the villian the movie should premiere in *Cannes!</p>
<p>*(joke only works if you pronounce both words the same way)</p>
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		<title>By: Starch Wreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starch Wreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trekwebmaster said: &quot;Now you realize the SHEER GENIUS of those behind ST:XI! Not only did they sucessfully accomplished a great “REBOOT,” they also have liberated the great thing which IS STAR TREK from the same “BOX” that Star Wars is entrenched in.&quot;

On the contrary, they put Star Trek *into* that Star Wars box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trekwebmaster said: &#8220;Now you realize the SHEER GENIUS of those behind ST:XI! Not only did they sucessfully accomplished a great “REBOOT,” they also have liberated the great thing which IS STAR TREK from the same “BOX” that Star Wars is entrenched in.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the contrary, they put Star Trek *into* that Star Wars box.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>587. In the new time line Kirk doesn&#039;t meet Carol Marcus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>587. In the new time line Kirk doesn&#8217;t meet Carol Marcus.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ballz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Ballz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that &quot;for Pete&#039;s sake&quot; or &quot;for pity&#039;s sake&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that &#8220;for Pete&#8217;s sake&#8221; or &#8220;for pity&#8217;s sake&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: THX-1138</title>
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		<dc:creator>THX-1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do an original story for Pete&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do an original story for Pete&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Noonian Sing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noonian Sing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At a minimum they need to work in Carol Marcus in the next movie.  She and Kirk were presumably in love.  Kirk presumably abandoned her and David for a career in Starfleet.  There&#039;s a lot of drama in that relationship.  It would be great if someone told us the backstory.

Also, in the new timeline, Kirk has honorably fought and slain Nero, the destroyer of 47 Klingon vessels.  Instead of a prolonged war with the Klingons, perhaps the destruction of Nero could prompt an early peace between the Klingon Empire and the Federation (ex: STNG &quot;Yesterday&#039;s Enterprise).  Then Kirk would be revered by the Klingons as a hero.  Sadly, this respect for Kirk will ultimately cause the death of Lt. Savik who is chosen for death by the Klingon minion who previously murdered David.  This time the minion chooses to kill Savik because he fears the stain on his honor that will result from cowardly attempting to stab in the back the son of Kirk, an honored hero of the Klingon Empire.  The death of Lt. Savik removes one more female Vulcan of child bearing age from from &quot;old Spock&#039;s&quot; new colony, thus delaying even further the rebuilding of the Vulcan race.  Luckily, this fact no longer matters to old Spock who is locked forever in the mind of Dr. McCoy since there&#039;s no longer any planet Vulcan for Spock to return to and have his mind restored.  Consumed by madness, McCoy imbibes on Romulan Ale and eventually dies from a tragic Retnox overdose.  The good news is that God eventually wins in the end.  Spock&#039;s brother is no longer alive to kill God as Spock&#039;s brother died on Vulcan when Nero turned it into a black hole.  The bad news ... no more humpbacks.

... I hope this stupidity clearly illustrates the problems that will arise if Khan returns.  I miss Khan too and I would definitely shell out ten bucks to see him again.  But, nostalgia and profit are not good reasons for destroying a classic film.  Anyone remember &quot;The Phantom Menace&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At a minimum they need to work in Carol Marcus in the next movie.  She and Kirk were presumably in love.  Kirk presumably abandoned her and David for a career in Starfleet.  There&#8217;s a lot of drama in that relationship.  It would be great if someone told us the backstory.</p>
<p>Also, in the new timeline, Kirk has honorably fought and slain Nero, the destroyer of 47 Klingon vessels.  Instead of a prolonged war with the Klingons, perhaps the destruction of Nero could prompt an early peace between the Klingon Empire and the Federation (ex: STNG &#8220;Yesterday&#8217;s Enterprise).  Then Kirk would be revered by the Klingons as a hero.  Sadly, this respect for Kirk will ultimately cause the death of Lt. Savik who is chosen for death by the Klingon minion who previously murdered David.  This time the minion chooses to kill Savik because he fears the stain on his honor that will result from cowardly attempting to stab in the back the son of Kirk, an honored hero of the Klingon Empire.  The death of Lt. Savik removes one more female Vulcan of child bearing age from from &#8220;old Spock&#8217;s&#8221; new colony, thus delaying even further the rebuilding of the Vulcan race.  Luckily, this fact no longer matters to old Spock who is locked forever in the mind of Dr. McCoy since there&#8217;s no longer any planet Vulcan for Spock to return to and have his mind restored.  Consumed by madness, McCoy imbibes on Romulan Ale and eventually dies from a tragic Retnox overdose.  The good news is that God eventually wins in the end.  Spock&#8217;s brother is no longer alive to kill God as Spock&#8217;s brother died on Vulcan when Nero turned it into a black hole.  The bad news &#8230; no more humpbacks.</p>
<p>&#8230; I hope this stupidity clearly illustrates the problems that will arise if Khan returns.  I miss Khan too and I would definitely shell out ten bucks to see him again.  But, nostalgia and profit are not good reasons for destroying a classic film.  Anyone remember &#8220;The Phantom Menace&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#576---&quot;The best of trek always relates to current events told in a sci-fi sort of way and based in the future.&quot;

Actually, I think that can render its value somewhat dated.

For me, Star Trek works best when exploring the human condition---the value of which is timeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#576&#8212;&#8221;The best of trek always relates to current events told in a sci-fi sort of way and based in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I think that can render its value somewhat dated.</p>
<p>For me, Star Trek works best when exploring the human condition&#8212;the value of which is timeless.</p>
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		<title>By: starshipcaptain</title>
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		<dc:creator>starshipcaptain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best of trek always relates to current events told in a sci-fi sort of way and based in the future.  Bob and Alex... look at our world... terrorism, genocide, economic collapse etc.  So, do you think you can make a compelling NEW story that involves terrorists who come from a planet that is committing genocide and threatens the economy of the 24th century (remember, they don&#039;t use money)?   How does a fleet of starships combat rogue terrorists... do they have a fleet of ships hidden somewhere you can destroy?  Is genocide being done on Uhura&#039;s home world?  Do we know who they are... is there a sense of mystery and intrigue?  Do they have a superweapon or is their weapon stealth and disguise?  Does the federation stoop to their level or does Kirk find a way to overcome &quot;Bush era&quot; tactics and live up to the prime directive?  A bio-weapon that destroys the federations food supply and nanites that destroy the replicators causing starvation and chaos?

YOU TELL ME!  Food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best of trek always relates to current events told in a sci-fi sort of way and based in the future.  Bob and Alex&#8230; look at our world&#8230; terrorism, genocide, economic collapse etc.  So, do you think you can make a compelling NEW story that involves terrorists who come from a planet that is committing genocide and threatens the economy of the 24th century (remember, they don&#8217;t use money)?   How does a fleet of starships combat rogue terrorists&#8230; do they have a fleet of ships hidden somewhere you can destroy?  Is genocide being done on Uhura&#8217;s home world?  Do we know who they are&#8230; is there a sense of mystery and intrigue?  Do they have a superweapon or is their weapon stealth and disguise?  Does the federation stoop to their level or does Kirk find a way to overcome &#8220;Bush era&#8221; tactics and live up to the prime directive?  A bio-weapon that destroys the federations food supply and nanites that destroy the replicators causing starvation and chaos?</p>
<p>YOU TELL ME!  Food for thought.</p>
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