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	<title>Comments on: ST09 Tidbits: Trek Hits $375M + Star Trek Lessons + more</title>
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		<title>By: TheOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it either. TMP was/is an utter BORE that I cannot stand to watch, the only worthwhile scene was Enterprise drydock. The characterizations where dull/out of character. The pacing was like watching paint dry in a funeral home, ugh. I can&#039;t imagine why anyone thought this was &#039;good&#039; in 1979, let alone today.
This is 2009, Trek is back. If you dont like it pop in  your VHS of TOS and stay in your basements..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it either. TMP was/is an utter BORE that I cannot stand to watch, the only worthwhile scene was Enterprise drydock. The characterizations where dull/out of character. The pacing was like watching paint dry in a funeral home, ugh. I can&#8217;t imagine why anyone thought this was &#8216;good&#8217; in 1979, let alone today.<br />
This is 2009, Trek is back. If you dont like it pop in  your VHS of TOS and stay in your basements..</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79----&quot;According to you (not me), higher average ticket price is an advantage. “Up”’s is higher than &#039;Transformers,&#039; so according to your logic, it’s doing better than &#039;Transformers.&#039; &quot;

What? That isn&#039;t even close to what I said.

I think you are having difficulty with reading comprehension, or you just need to put the pipe down.



Up is not out-performing ROTF, despite having a higher ticket average. A higher priced ticket doesn&#039;t automatically translate to a higher gross, unless of course ticket sales are one for one---which in the case of Up vs. ROTF---they are not.

 A higher gross is a higher gross. The only thing suggested in that post (#55) was that a higher average ticket price doesn&#039;t make the higher domestic gross for ST09 (compared to TMP) any less significant.

But I don&#039;t know why I even bother with someone who still refuses to accept the difference between Johnny and Georgie....Lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79&#8212;-&#8221;According to you (not me), higher average ticket price is an advantage. “Up”’s is higher than &#8216;Transformers,&#8217; so according to your logic, it’s doing better than &#8216;Transformers.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>What? That isn&#8217;t even close to what I said.</p>
<p>I think you are having difficulty with reading comprehension, or you just need to put the pipe down.</p>
<p>Up is not out-performing ROTF, despite having a higher ticket average. A higher priced ticket doesn&#8217;t automatically translate to a higher gross, unless of course ticket sales are one for one&#8212;which in the case of Up vs. ROTF&#8212;they are not.</p>
<p> A higher gross is a higher gross. The only thing suggested in that post (#55) was that a higher average ticket price doesn&#8217;t make the higher domestic gross for ST09 (compared to TMP) any less significant.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know why I even bother with someone who still refuses to accept the difference between Johnny and Georgie&#8230;.Lol!</p>
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		<title>By: Son of a Maui Portagee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Son of a Maui Portagee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66

In 2005 Viacom split Paramount from CBS with CBS retaining Trek and all merchandising to same.

I have tried, and have failed to find any evidence that Les Moonves has allowed Paramount any recourse to participate in Trek merchandising/licensing.The only thing I uncovered was that Moonves gave Gail Berman a deadline to get the cameras rolling for Paramount&#039;s ST XI or lose what rights to a Trek film Paramount retained.

I would be very grateful if you could show me evidence to support your claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#66</p>
<p>In 2005 Viacom split Paramount from CBS with CBS retaining Trek and all merchandising to same.</p>
<p>I have tried, and have failed to find any evidence that Les Moonves has allowed Paramount any recourse to participate in Trek merchandising/licensing.The only thing I uncovered was that Moonves gave Gail Berman a deadline to get the cameras rolling for Paramount&#8217;s ST XI or lose what rights to a Trek film Paramount retained.</p>
<p>I would be very grateful if you could show me evidence to support your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, #78.  I hear tripe is very good for swine flu.  Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, #78.  I hear tripe is very good for swine flu.  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, #8, #78 put opinions in quotes because we don&#039;t have real ones, you see.

But then, he&#039;s delirious from swine flu.

But majority opinion is always right.  That&#039;s why in pre-Copernican times the sun and the planets revolved around the Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, #8, #78 put opinions in quotes because we don&#8217;t have real ones, you see.</p>
<p>But then, he&#8217;s delirious from swine flu.</p>
<p>But majority opinion is always right.  That&#8217;s why in pre-Copernican times the sun and the planets revolved around the Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: MC1701B</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC1701B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>61.  According to you (not me), higher average ticket price is an advantage.  &quot;Up&quot;&#039;s is higher than &quot;Transformers,&quot; so according to your logic, it&#039;s doing better than &quot;Transformers.&quot;

Nice to see you accepting reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>61.  According to you (not me), higher average ticket price is an advantage.  &#8220;Up&#8221;&#8217;s is higher than &#8220;Transformers,&#8221; so according to your logic, it&#8217;s doing better than &#8220;Transformers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice to see you accepting reality.</p>
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		<title>By: SChaos1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>SChaos1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not surprised to see the vocal minority back spouting their &quot;opinions.&quot;

I think I&#039;d rather just recover from the swine flu than read that tripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not surprised to see the vocal minority back spouting their &#8220;opinions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d rather just recover from the swine flu than read that tripe.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8 - &quot;Star Trek wasn’t that great, or good for that matter.&quot;

Despite the grief that you get from other posters on this site for such an opinion, my best friend and I, who are both fans from its original NBC days, saw it together and are in full agreement with you.  We both found it to be pretty mediocre.  As my boss, who also saw it said:   &quot;All sizzle and no steak.&quot;

You&#039;re not alone in your opinion that it was not very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 &#8211; &#8220;Star Trek wasn’t that great, or good for that matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Despite the grief that you get from other posters on this site for such an opinion, my best friend and I, who are both fans from its original NBC days, saw it together and are in full agreement with you.  We both found it to be pretty mediocre.  As my boss, who also saw it said:   &#8220;All sizzle and no steak.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not alone in your opinion that it was not very good.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69---&quot;Thanks for missing the point of my question, the thrust of which was to explain the logic behind it. Not about to get into an opinionated discussion about what I find frequent and what you do. That’s just silly.&quot;

 My intention was not to solicit debate. I simply pointed out that I believed your assertion that it was an &quot;all-too-frequently expressed notion&quot; was grossly overstated.

As for &quot;missing the point&quot;, I don&#039;t believe I did. I thought I made perfectly clear that I didn&#039;t believe that to be any more realistic than you do. Simply put---there *is* no logic behind that notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69&#8212;&#8221;Thanks for missing the point of my question, the thrust of which was to explain the logic behind it. Not about to get into an opinionated discussion about what I find frequent and what you do. That’s just silly.&#8221;</p>
<p> My intention was not to solicit debate. I simply pointed out that I believed your assertion that it was an &#8220;all-too-frequently expressed notion&#8221; was grossly overstated.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;missing the point&#8221;, I don&#8217;t believe I did. I thought I made perfectly clear that I didn&#8217;t believe that to be any more realistic than you do. Simply put&#8212;there *is* no logic behind that notion.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Ice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am giving TMP benefit of the doubt. According to Mojo the worldwide gross for TMP is approx: $398 million and S09 is $375 million. Please note the numbers for TMP is for 2008 inflation and not this year. TMP worldwide gross will pass $400 million mark next year.
Also TMP ended 4th in domestic and overseas market however i don&#039;t see S09 any higher than 6th place domestically and it wont reach top ten list overseas. Overall no matter what we look at it TMP just has the edge over S09 at the box office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am giving TMP benefit of the doubt. According to Mojo the worldwide gross for TMP is approx: $398 million and S09 is $375 million. Please note the numbers for TMP is for 2008 inflation and not this year. TMP worldwide gross will pass $400 million mark next year.<br />
Also TMP ended 4th in domestic and overseas market however i don&#8217;t see S09 any higher than 6th place domestically and it wont reach top ten list overseas. Overall no matter what we look at it TMP just has the edge over S09 at the box office.</p>
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