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FSM Releasing Complete Soundtrack For Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan July 20, 2009

by John Tenuto , Filed under: Feature Films (TMP-NEM),Merchandise,Music , trackback

TrekMovie is excited to announce some big news, especially for Star Trek soundtrack aficionados. Film Score Monthly and Screen Archives Entertainment are releasing the complete soundtrack to James Horner’s classic Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan score. We have all the details. 

 

Star Trek II: The Expanded Soundtrack

Originally released in 1982, and owing to the limitations of space on cassettes and LPs at the time, the TWOK soundtrack featured about 44:50 minutes of music. As they have done with previous releases such as the amazing 8CD Superman box set, Film Score Monthly/Screen Archives Entertainment have now greatly enhanced the TWOK music offering with an expanded edition of the score. With 23 tracks, the expanded edition of TWOK includes 76:58 minutes of music, featuring all the previously unreleased music available. Fans will be able to hear some of Horner’s beautiful music (made all the amazing considering he was only 28 years old at the time) for the first time on CD.

The  filmscoremonthly.com website has this description:

Star Trek II was released on LP by Atlantic Records in a 45-minute program issued on CD by GNP/Crescendo (long out of print). Although the album program featured the score’s highlights, fans have long clamored for a complete-score presentation—adding such important cues as the mind-control sequences involving Chekov and Capt. Terrell being possessed by alien eels, the revelation of the Genesis Cave, the final battle between the Enterprise and Reliant, and Spock’s death and funeral ("Amazing Grace"). FSM delivers in cooperation with Rhino Entertainment (who administer the Atlantic Records catalog) and Paramount Pictures (owners of the Star Trek film franchise)—remastering the complete score from Dan Wallin’s 1982 three-track film mixes, stored in the Paramount vaults in sterling sound quality.


Star Trek II: The Expanded Soundtrack CD packaging front and back
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Rare music from a Trek classic
Two of the more exciting offerings are the music from the scene where Spock sacrifices himself for the crew ("Spock (dies)") and the amazing battle music of "Enterprise Attacks Reliant." The expanded edition also includes the one selection not composed by Horner. The music for "The Genesis Project" was actually composed by Craig Huxley. Astute fans may remember that Huxley, now a Grammy and Emmy award winning musician, played Peter Kirk (nephew to Captain Kirk in "Operation Annihilate!") and Tommy Starnes ("And the Children Shall Lead"). He is also the inventor of the "blaster beam" instrument which was the voice of V’Ger in Jerry Goldsmith’s music for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. There are also bonus tracks, including "Amazing Grace" and the original epilogue and end credits music. As many fans know, the scene with Spock’s photon casing on Genesis was added to the film after completion. This necessitated new music and reediting of the film. The TWOK bonus track includes the version of the music as it originally would have played if this scene was not added to the feature film.

The soundtrack also includes an extensive and detailed 28-page program booklet, with many rare photos (some supplied by myself, with director Meyer’s permission, from my collection of photos from the amazing "The Papers of Nicholas Meyer Collection" from the University of Iowa) and liner notes from Jeff Bond, Lukas Kendall, and Alexander Kaplan. Here is an exclusive look at a sample page from the booklet.


Sample page from TWOK Extended Soundtrack booklet
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Get the Extended TWOK Soundtrack now
The soundtrack costs $19.95 is available now, online only. You can purchase (and listen to clips) at filmscoremonthly.com. [note: this Soundtrack is not a 'limited edition' so if you have trouble getting to their site today, don't worry]

You can also pick it up at the Screen Archives Entertainment booth at SDCC, booth #429.

FSM and SA also have a special deal where you can save $5 if you order this and other select science fiction soundtracks and spend more than $50. Details at ScreenArchives.com.

TRACK LISTING (listen to clips at filmscoremonthly.com)
1. Main Title 3:06
2. Surprise on Ceti Alpha V 0:45
3. Khan’s Pets 4:19
4. The Eels of Ceti Alpha V/Kirk in Space Shuttle 3:53
5. Enterprise Clears Moorings 3:33
6. Chekov Lies 0:40
7. Spock 1:12
8. Kirk Takes Command/He Tasks Me 2:07
9. Genesis Project (Composed and Performed by Craig Huxley) 3:16
10. Surprise Attack 5:07
11. Kirk’s Explosive Reply 4:01
12. Inside Regula I 1:35
13. Brainwashed 1:24
14. Captain Terrell’s Death 1:58
15. Buried Alive 0:57
16. The Genesis Cave 1:09
17. Battle in the Mutara Nebula 8:07
18. Enterprise Attacks Reliant 1:29
19. Genesis Countdown 6:34
20. Spock (Dies) 1:53
21. Amazing Grace 1:26
22. Epilogue/End Title 8:41
Bonus Track
23. Epilogue (original version)/End Title 7:29

 

MORE on the TWOK Extended Soundtrack to come
TrekMovie will soon have a review of the new TWOK Extended Soundtrack, along with an interview about the project from FSM’s Lukas Kendall.

 

Comments

1. Jeyl - July 20, 2009

HOLY SH**!

2. jas_montreal - July 20, 2009

thats jut FREAKEN INCREDIBLE !!!!!! I can’t believe it ! I’m a huge collector of Star Trek Soundtracks and this just MADE MY DAY !

3. Jeyl - July 20, 2009

Bah. I’m so sorry, but this is my dream soundtrack! I even made my own cover artwork for what I would have done with the soundtrack a couple of years ago.

http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2708667&postcount=7

4. I'm dead Jim - July 20, 2009

Frak! Gotta have it!

5. Vernon Wilmer - July 20, 2009

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. JOSEPH MCDANIEL - July 20, 2009

Will it end up on iTunes?

7. Lukas Kendall - July 20, 2009

Hi Everyone, and thanks for your great comments. As far as I know there are no plans to put the soundtrack on itunes, because of the way the rights are jointly with Atlantic Records and Paramount Pictures; I suppose they could work it out, but we only have physical CD rights. Thanks!

8. drapera - July 20, 2009

Could there be more to come?

ST III through VI expanded editions would be most welcome!

(ST V would be VERY nice…yes, VERY nice, indeed)

9. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

Okay, someone has to do it …

KHAAAAAANNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am definately getting this. I’ve been wishing for this for as long as I’ve had the (superb) GNP Crescendo CD.

This score was one of those that introduced me to soundtracks, and is one of my all-time favorites.

10. Anthony Pascale - July 20, 2009

it will not be on itunes

11. ScottDS - July 20, 2009

Ordered!

A rep from LaLa Land Records said on the Film Score Monthly message board that a Trek soundtrack boxset is impossible because the rights are owned by five or six different companies (Sony, Atlantic, GNP Crescendo, Epic, MCA, etc.) but individual releases would be possible. And as we’ve seen today, that’s true! Personally, I can’t wait for Trek III and V (fingers crossed).

12. mscottr - July 20, 2009

Very, very exciting…

I, too, would love to see expanded editions of the subsequent films.

13. Spock - July 20, 2009

I can’t wait for this. Now we need Star Trek 3 as well, since it is a companion to 2.

14. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

Trek III is a must for them to do, now that they have Trek II.

These scores go together like Kirk and Spock.

15. dayxday - July 20, 2009

Finally!

16. Crusade2267 - July 20, 2009

I’d love to find some of the extended First Contact score while we’re at it. The scene where the Phoenix goes to warp is some of the most exciting Trek film music not released on the soundtrack.

17. Enterprise - July 20, 2009

SPOCK DIES?!! WHAT!! SPOILERS!!! Oh, can’t wait to get it.. Hope we can get the other movies, too.

18. Pasty - July 20, 2009

Ordered as ordered! I can’t wait!

19. Starman - July 20, 2009

Now, if they’d only expand ST:TMP with “Red Alert” and “Kirk Lost”. Why those were left off the official release, who knows?

20. Jeyl - July 20, 2009

^18

Or what about the score that played during the crews recreation of V’Ger destroying the klingon ships on the recreation deck and the ultimate V’Ger reveal for the Director’s Edition?

21. Starman - July 20, 2009

Oh, right. That too.

Well, at least they’re out there…somewhere :D

22. Imrahil - July 20, 2009

Wishlisted. I’ll have to wait until August to actually order it (payday).

23. Marvin the Martian - July 20, 2009

Wow… I remember copying the “Amazing Grace” cue to the end of my Star Trek II cassette tape when I was in college, because one of my wingmates had his VCR audio piped through his stereo and could record it for me. You have to remember that in 1984, that was the coolest thing ever.

(In fact, I still have the tape.)

Will be nice to pick up the entire soundtrack now. The artwork looks great!

24. Norm - July 20, 2009

Awesome…just ordered it.

25. LodownX - July 20, 2009

I have it on Vinyl sitting next to me right now. A cherished B-Day present from a close friend.

26. DmsDyMach - July 20, 2009

Finally! One of the best ST scores finally gets the treatment it deserves. So ordering it.

27. AJ - July 20, 2009

Wow. This is one of the greats. Horner was only 28. Friggin’ incredible piece of work. I’m buying this puppy for sure.

And I second the motion for a TSFS expanded set as well. They are very much companion pieces.

28. Allansfirebird - July 20, 2009

YEEEEEHAAAAWWWWWW!!!!

I’ve been waiting for this ever since the “official” TMP score was released back in 2001.

Hey, FSM, any possibility of releasing all of The Motion Picture’s soundtrack officially?

29. screaming satellite - July 20, 2009

KHAN FOR THE……*sighs* u get the idea

30. Scotty Mon - July 20, 2009

Excellent! I’ve wanted this one for AGES! Finally – and they ship to Canada cheaper than Amazon!!! Already ordered. . .

31. Driver - July 20, 2009

Most impressive. I shall have it.

32. Raktajino - July 20, 2009

BOUGHT!
Always wanted the rest of those cues. Excellent day for Trekkies!

33. Robert Gillis - July 20, 2009

Just ordered it. the best trek movie EVER gets its due. Horner’s soundtrack is the best of the best.

34. Robert Gillis - July 20, 2009

#22 Marvin — people younger than us don’t understand how cool that was. I used to do the same thing to listen to different sections of the music. For a while, the only place to get the Trek II soundtrack was on a cassette at a convention (where I got mine). I think it was over 15 years before we got the trek II and trek III soundtracks on CD. Good times.

35. JKP - July 20, 2009

Ordered. Can’t wait. What a great year for Trek. :)

36. CmdrR - July 20, 2009

Can someone speak knowledgeably about the portion of the TWOK soundtrack used when we see the camera sweep from Enterprise over the dead moonlet to reveal Reliant (It’s been awhile, but I think this is just after Kirk reveals that they’re only stuck for a couple hours and it’s before the later battles). My observation is that this became THE basis for bad guy incidental music over the next two decades, sci-fi and otherwise.
Thoughts, comments, passing of pretentious gas?

37. CmdrR - July 20, 2009

(on the above list, I would think it would fit between 16 & 17)

38. Mike in the Mirror - July 20, 2009

What? No commentary from someone who had absolutely nothing to do with the movie or other movies and tv shows!? Definitely a buy for me!

39. Brett Campbell - July 20, 2009

Wow! He was only twenty-eight? Amazing film score!

40. Krik Semaj - July 20, 2009

Oh brother. I can see it now. Trek fan invites date home after dinner (yeah right a date) and says let me put on some mood music. Date leaves at warp 9.

41. Enterprise - July 20, 2009

What’s with that cover they always use for Wrath of Khan items now? The poster art with the Space station shooting at the Enterprise? Could they not use the original one sheet poster?

42. Robert - July 20, 2009

I still have the LP

43. John Gill - July 20, 2009

Just ordered it! FINALLY, the Amazing Grace cut, I always wondered why it was not included on the LP.

44. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

35 – That was the Main Title / Kirk’s theme, mixing into Khan’s theme, and it was part of Battle in the Mutara Nebula, which was on the original GNP / Atlantic release.

Khan’s theme is more of a vengeful sounding cue with low brass, and was heard at least as early as Surprise Attack, and in slowed down form in Khan’s Pets, which accompanies the sequence where Khan takes off his one glove, and chekov recognises him.

Those two themes, plus Spock’s theme (a sweeping theme that became the main title theme for Star Trek III) are the 3 major themes for this score.

45. Robert - July 20, 2009

Gimmie! gimmie! Gimmie!

46. Joseph Chapes - July 20, 2009

#40

I believe it is the Enterprise shooting at the Space Station actually. I should know, I have one of those posters hanging behind me at work.

Joseph Chapes

47. Anton Karidian - July 20, 2009

SWEET!! Do it for TSFS also, please!!!

48. ShinRa Actual - July 20, 2009

About goddamn time. Star Trek III next, kindly.

49. The First Son of Krypton - July 20, 2009

Am I the only one reading far too much into this?

Re-Releasing of all the Original Series movies, complete with a rerendering and ‘touching up’ of the visual FX and now the release of the expanded soundtrack…

Now to me, it seems Paramount are trying to make damn sure the newbie fans know who Kahn is?

50. Andy - July 20, 2009

YES YES YES!!!

ST:III NEXT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

51. screaming satellite - July 20, 2009

#39 – get a life? nah get this instead

52. Cmdrr - July 20, 2009

43 —
Cool. Am I wrong that a LOT of incidental music in movie scores followed this general arrangement? I have no idea whether this composer did all of those or, more likely, Hollywood saw something that worked and made 92437529572958298 more of it.

53. Cmdrr - July 20, 2009

As for the poster, Ricardo Montalban looks like Maude.

54. Spock - July 20, 2009

^48
It sure looks like they are trying to put “modern” trek behind us. Thank the gods. It is all about the original characters once again.

55. Spock - July 20, 2009

Was this just a publicity shot, or is it an unused shot from the film?
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/merchandise/fsm_twok_i.jpg

56. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

51 – The way in which Khan’s theme was handles is something James Horner does in a similar way, and since Star Trek II, he has been known to ‘self borrow’ for many film projects.

If you’ve heard Khan’s theme noticabley in other movies, chances are it was a James Horner score.

It’s not “Hollywood” but “James Horner” who often reused the musical ideas for Khan’s theme in other scores.

Other composers have their own recognizable styles and traits, but James Horner seemed to pick up the reputation for it.

The Wrath Of Khan was one of his earliest scores, and at that time, he had not gotten into his later bad habits.

A good example of music that is similar to Khan’s Theme can be found in his score to Aliens.

Take note of when you’ve heard something similar to Khan’s Theme, and see qho composed the music.

57. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

54 – The larger image is a well known publicity shot of the model, and the insert shot was from the film itself, though I think it was flipped.

58. Robert Saint John - July 20, 2009

I just pooped myself.

59. Harry Ballz - July 20, 2009

Music to my ears!

60. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

57 – Too much information ;-)

61. blackwidow - July 20, 2009

Just ordered my copy and I can’t wait!!!

62. Dom - July 20, 2009

Great news about the release. I vastly prefer Horner’s scores to Goldsmith’s.

Horner’s ‘self-plagiarism’ goes back to his days working for Roger Corman. His superb score for Battle Beyond the Stars was reused countless times in other films (along with the special FX!) and there are many similarities in TWOK.

In fairness, Aliens, made by another Corman alumnus, James Cameron, had to have its score written and recorded from scratch in the space of about a fortnight, IIRC, so some recycling was inevitable.

63. Cap'n Calhoun - July 20, 2009

Awesome, but it figures this would come *two weeks* after I finally picked up the one-disc version…

64. Cap'n Calhoun - July 20, 2009

Or I should say the non-expanded version…

65. 1701 over Gotham City - July 20, 2009

FSM Rocks. Some years ago they issued a limited pressing of BATMAN from 1966, and in outstanding quality. Can’t wait to add this to the shelf!

#40, this was the B-Sheet poster… more artisitic, even if incorrect, than the hideous photo montage poster.

66. Shadowcat - July 20, 2009

Anthony, do you think TWOK Soundtrack will be released on Rhapsody? I have a Rhapsody subscription. I downloaded tracks by Alexander Courage from Rhapsody and burned them on a CD. They have a music collection of 30 years of Star Trek music from th e TV series and the movies. My favourite tracks are the barroom scene from the Trouble With Tribbles” and “Inner Light” from TNG. I actually have a vinyl copy of STTMP.

67. RoobyDoo - July 20, 2009

Ordered! Nice to see that they don’t artificially inflate postage costs to Canada. Appreciated.

68. Scott Gammans - July 20, 2009

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! I am absolutely squealing with delight over this news… it almost makes up for the travesty being foisted upon the return of “Futurama”. (Almost.)

69. toddk - July 20, 2009

I always wondered if the complete soundtrack would ever be released, my question now is: when will the complete TOS soundtracks be released? I was hoping that the TV Series soundtracks would have been compiled during and after the TOS remastering, but didnt hear anything. Could this be a catylist? I hope so. I will be buying this disc regardless.

70. toddk - July 20, 2009

Oh, and i think the reason why the enterprise on the cover appears to be firing at regula one , was to hide the fact that khan and his minions had taken over the reliant, so the audience would be suprised. (and delighted that it would be a closer match in battle) otherwise the poster would have revealed a key part of the movie.

71. ken1w - July 20, 2009

“Battle Beyond the Stars,” take 2 :)

Star Trek fans who have never heard the music to “Battle Beyond the Stars” (Horner’s first major movie score) should take a listen. The recording itself is not as good, but it is enjoyable stuff. Parts of it are amazingly similar to key themes from Star Trek II.

72. OneBuckFilms - July 20, 2009

70 – It was on the strength of BBTS that James Horner was hired to score Star Trek II. He was only 28 at the time.

73. dep1701 - July 20, 2009

So happy to find out about this. I own several FSM Soundtrack releases and they are always superb ( Their expanded release of ‘Goldsmith’s soundtrack to “Logan’s Run” is a special treat ).

I’m thrilled that we’ll finally have the music that accompanied Carol’s revealing the wonders of the Genesis cave to Kirk, and the “Spock
( Dies)” cue – although I’m afraid I won’t be able to hear it without welling up.

Isn’t the power of soundtrack music incredible? Another cue that always makes me want to weep is the portion of the music that accompanies Claude LaCombe giving the hand greeting to the E.T. in “Close Encounters Of The Third Kind”.

74. Magic_Al - July 20, 2009

Fantastic release. I guess I’m buying a CD, but the only way that happens anymore is if it’s not on iTunes or Amazon mp3 another digital download store. As long as the bitrate is high enough I don’t need more plastic objects. Hard to believe anyone releases music without putting it on iTunes anymore.

75. Beck - July 20, 2009

I’m doing the butt dance as we speak.

76. Thorny - July 20, 2009

Ordered it tonight. Thanks, Anthony and John! I never would have known about it except for this site.

77. Enterprise - July 20, 2009

Can we get a complete ST score to the new movie? The soundtrack that’s out now is terrible.

78. Captain Rickover - July 20, 2009

That was about time! I want it! I’ll buy it!

And I’ll wait for other complete recordings from Star Trek III, V and VIII, forget the others.

79. mdbchud - July 20, 2009

Not to mix my movie metaphors, but I feel like Indiana Jones…..FINALLY the holy grail is mine!!!!!!!!

80. Squire of Gothos - July 20, 2009

Wonderful news! I am going to be ordering this right away!!

81. Jeyl - July 20, 2009

#73 Magic_Al

I hear what you’re saying, but I prefer to have a ‘tangible’ source that I can rely upon should the digital source fail, be misplaced or erased entirely.

82. SerenityActual - July 20, 2009

I will be ordering this tomorrow!

83. Rastaman - July 20, 2009

The local second run theater played Star Trek II this weekend. I had never seen it on the big screen!!! So cool …

And the music is just amazing. I remember playing the “Main Title” for my last recital before I quit playing piano when I was a kid. It’s probably still my favorite score of all the Star Trek movies.

84. Michael Foote - July 20, 2009

I actually hired bag pipes to play amazing grace at my fathers funeral because of this score. I want this so bad.

85. Fubamushu - July 20, 2009

As much as I love Horner’s music, he does borrow from himself quite a bit. About a year after TWOK came out, I was watching a werewolf movie starring Albert Finney on cable (Wolfen). The music sounded as if it came straight out of TWOK.

What I want to know is, why didn’t the Director’s Edition of TWOK contain the original ending?

86. Jose Kuhn - July 20, 2009

I am not a Horner Fan. When watching Cocoon I heard familiar elements in that movie. That soured me on him!!

I think Eidelmann’s VI score deserves more credit than it has received…

Of course Goldsmith was a god!!!

87. Ryan T. Riddle - July 20, 2009

Awesome cool.

88. Sybok's Secret Brother - July 20, 2009

Love it!

89. Andy Patterson - July 20, 2009

Now that filmscoremonthly has put this out maybe they can put out Dirty Rotten Scoundrels too. That one has been a holy grail of mine.

90. Fleetlord - July 20, 2009

“15. Crusade2267 – July 20, 2009
I’d love to find some of the extended First Contact score while we’re at it. The scene where the Phoenix goes to warp is some of the most exciting Trek film music not released on the soundtrack.”

I have that track “Flight of the Phoenix” and two other missing tracks NOT on oringinal CD (but should be!) if you interested, look me up on trekbbs and pm me

91. Scott B. here. - July 20, 2009

This is great news. May have to wait till a gifting occasion to con someone into buying it for me though. :-)

In defense of Horner, his scores for The Rocketeer (with the exception of one or two brief TWOK-y fanfares) and A Beautiful Mind are totally unlike TWOK, and are two of my favorite scores.

Still want all the TOS scores on CD. Sigh.

Scott B. out.

92. braxus - July 20, 2009

I wonder if this will finally be a fully digital recording, as I know this score was recorded in digital- but I believe was mixed in analog since you can hear hiss on the original CD. Anyone confirm this? Being its stated to be from a 3 track tape, I suspect its still an analog master being transfered to CD.

93. CarlG - July 20, 2009

Oh, dear GOD, yes!

I need this. YESTERDAY.

94. captain_neill - July 20, 2009

Fantastic

I definitely have to get this. I have the originals CD and was always annoyed that it did not have the full score. Now I can have it, def looking forward to this one.

Awesome

95. Iowagirl - July 20, 2009

Sounds good.

96. John - July 21, 2009

#91 – the producer Lukas Kendall had this to say at the Film Score Monthly message board. “We used mostly the analogue safety 3-track 1/2″ because the digital 3M 1/2″ 3-track tape nobody can play anymore! There was also a 1″ 32-track 3M tape that only one place can play anymore (Walt Disney Imagineering; they keep a machine working) that we used for some cues (the 3-track film mixes are printed along with the multitrack channels) but it had to be baked and this caused some ticks (which we have to painstakingly edit out) and the analogue was actually the better source. (Did you know the 3M machine ran at a sampling rate of 50 khz, not 44.1 or even 48? So you have to go analogue out anyway!) Hope that answers the question. In all honesty…digital converters must be better now than in 1982, right? Thanks!”

97. Sean4000 - July 21, 2009

Awesome!!!! I hope the music has been cleaned up and mixed for modern systems! I can’t wait to hear this for myself.

98. Sean4000 - July 21, 2009

NEVERMIND!! I listened to the sound clips on the website, these tracks sound BRAND NEW! DAMN! Well done!

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100. RoobyDoo - July 21, 2009

#90 Horner’s score for The New World was also impressive, and quite unlike anything I’ve heard from him.

101. Larry Wilson - July 21, 2009

I am definitely getting this one, but I certainly hope the audio quality is improved over the GNP version. This was one of the earliest all-digital recordings, and there was actually tape hiss on the CD.

I also hope that an expanded “ST3″ will be on is way, since GNP has the rights to that (or GNP and Capitol/EMI). Right now I have expanded versions of both soundtracks that were made by taking the 5.1 track from the DVD, turning each channel into a WAV and remixing them, leaving out the center channel and .1 channels to isolate the music. Don’t get me wrong, they’re fairly good quality, but they also have sound effects in them.

102. trekboi - July 21, 2009

Made my day- next Star Trek III

103. Digginjim - July 21, 2009

AT LAAAAASTT!!!!!!!!!

This has made my day as well…… will order immediately!

104. RichyG - July 21, 2009

Khaaaaaaaannnnn…..
Cool! I’m so pleased about this, right up there with the motion picture and ST3 as some of the best movie soundtracks out there. Cant wait for my copy to be delivered to the UK!

105. Doug Wilson - July 21, 2009

HumanuhHumanuhHumanuhHumanuhHumanuhHumanuh!

Holy Shazbot!

This is a dream. I’m still asleep. This is a dream…

106. Eli - July 21, 2009

I also have “flight of the phoenix” from First Contact. Which other two tracks are there?

This is great news. I’ll be picking it up one way or another. The original soundtrack cd was one of the first i ever purchased as a kid. It stayed in my CD walkman for months!

107. Spock - July 21, 2009

Horner used a lot of the same style cues in TWOK, TSFS, Aliens, Rocketeer, Titanic, Uncommon Valor.

108. dep1701 - July 21, 2009

I still hope that they will release an expanded Trek V soundtrack. Jerry Goldsmith’s cue for Kirk climbing the mountain ( heard as part of the opening theme titled “the Mountain” on the album ) is ( IMHO ) one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written…much less for a trek soundtrack.

I really want all three arrangements of that piece from the film: during the climb, from the campfire scene ( ” I’ve always known…I’ll die alone” ), and on the Enterprise after “God” is defeated ( “Cosmic thoughts, gentlemen?” ).

the movie itself may be of debatale quality, but the score is great.

109. De - July 21, 2009

#100

You made a music and effects track? That’s way cool!

I remember listening to those on various laserdiscs like War of the Worlds back in the day.

110. Cyberziggy - July 21, 2009

BUYING…. THIS…. NOW!!!!

111. Starman - July 21, 2009

When are these being shipped?

112. ScottDS - July 21, 2009

110. Starman –

Screen Archives has them in stock. I placed my order yesterday and, after looking at my previous orders, they usually ship within 48 hours give or take. I’ve placed three previous orders with them (including one pre-order) and I haven’t had a problem with them.

113. Starman - July 21, 2009

Oh, and one thing, why don’t these remasters get released on SACD or something?

114. CaptainDonovin - July 21, 2009

Fangasm, ordered. Love this movie & lucky me I get to hear the famous KHANNNNN scream quite frequently. The Minnesota Timberwolves (NBA) have a new GM named David Khan & one of the morning shows always plays that when his name is mentioned. Gotta get that for a ringtone.

Now the rest of the movie soundtracks can be expanded, I always wanted FC to be a longer soundtrack.

115. Dr. Image - July 21, 2009

#107 Absolutely.
And I hope they do the same with III. That score, though derivative of II, I think is superior.
Larger orchestra used, I think.

116. 16309A - July 21, 2009

Just ordered mine. One of my favorite soundtracks. Like mentioned above, I hope they do STV. I thought I was the only one that wanted that opening music to Kirk’s climb.

117. Canadianknight - July 21, 2009

Ordered! Can’t wait! :D

118. Mr. Fanboy - July 21, 2009

Unbelievably awesome!!! Just ordered mine and can’t wait until it arrives. What can be said other than THANK YOU FILM SCORE MONTHLY!!! You guys are so awesome for doing this. I can’t believe this news didn’t leak, and it’s incredible that this new expanded release is available immediately. Usually we have to wait months after the initial announcement. Though, on the other hand, we have waited 27 years for the full score! Many a year I’ve wished for this… and now we finally get it. If only they could release the rest of the TOS scores. There’s still a dozen or so of them unreleased.

119. CmdrR - July 21, 2009

Thanks, OneBuckFilms. That’s the answer I was looking for. I know ‘Aliens’ used virtually the same incidental music. I’ll check me some credits on other suspect self-borrowings. Ha! Hollywood.

120. Mark - July 21, 2009

RE 112:
+1 for SACD or similar. But I’m afraid consumer music is going the other way (lossy data reduction, iTunes). I am not a crazy audiophile, but mp3/aac/ogg and other lossy compression schemes were not designed with orchestral music in mind.

121. starshipconstellation - July 21, 2009

Ordered my copy as well. Add me to the list of fans who want Star Trek III The Search For Spock get the full treatment.

122. Patrick Gleeson - July 21, 2009

Definite purchase for me – as would the others if someone can see fit to release them. Hopefully good sales of this may push the release of the rest forward. Full release of ‘Generations’ …

123. Porthos X - July 21, 2009

bahhh.. this haa already been in underground circles and in soundtrack trading rings and online soundtrack blogs for years…or something very very similar…

124. Porthos X - July 21, 2009

sorry…typo..HAS

125. John - July 21, 2009

Porthos X, the only music that was ever previously available on Star Trek II was the original album and “Genesis Project”. Any bootlegs that were ever shared on-line were just ripped from the surround channels from the DVD and had all sorts of sound effects and the music sounded terrible. For an example listen to this sample from YouTube of what was out there before and then listen to the minute long sample at the FSM site. There is a world of difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62sycyAumZA&fmt=18

126. Fleetlord - July 21, 2009

“I also have “flight of the phoenix” from First Contact. Which other two tracks are there?”

May have got the names wrong these are the names of 3 of the unleased tracks not on the retail FC CD, there may be more but source only gave me these 3.

STAR TREK VIII – FIRST CONTACT (Disc 1) – [25] – The Starship Chase.mp3
STAR TREK VIII – FIRST CONTACT (Disc 1) – [26] – Resistance Is Futile!.mp3
STAR TREK VIII – FIRST CONTACT (Disc 1) – [27] – The Future Restored And Victory Over The Borg.mp3

127. Eli - July 21, 2009

trekcore.com has the unreleased tracks from the First Contact score available for sampling. Just found ‘em earlier today actually. There’s actually quite a few.

Hope it’s not breaking the law mentioning that, considering they’re not available for sale anywhere…

128. James Heaney - Wowbagger - July 21, 2009

I *just spent* two nights laboring over the TWOK soundtrack, wishing, “Man, why haven’t they released Spock’s death music?” as I tried to interlace “Kirk’s Explosive Reply” with “Stealing the Enterprise” and “Genesis Countdown.”

FanTAStic news! Bravo, FSM!

129. Raktajino - July 21, 2009

Hmmm, two days later and my order is still in pending status. So much for their statement of immediate processing and shipping! I hope it’s actually in the mail already.

130. Chris_of_ODU - July 21, 2009

What always gets me with most scores that get released is that some of the most unique parts are always left out of the soundtrack completely.

It’s good to see more and more scores released in their complete or near-complete forms.

131. Starman - July 22, 2009

I just got my shipping notice.

132. OWAT - July 22, 2009

…and ordered. GHEEEE

133. braxus - July 22, 2009

#95- Was the 32 track source digital or analogue? I find it hard that a 32 track master would sound worse then a dupe analogue tape. Wouldn’t the dupe tape be taken from the 32 track master?

And if the master was 32 tracks of digital, then I would of had it all transfered to a new format that can be used today and remix the thing. 50Hz frequency isn’t a problem. Telarc transfered similar tapes to SACD which kept the sampling frequency and you benefitted from that. Once in SACD- any format can be taken from it including CD. I always thought the original mix was a little flat sounding, so I would have jumped at the chance to remix the thing while retaining it in digital format. Now that this CD is released, its doubtful they will ever do that now.

And how could a dupe 3 track analog tape sound better then the original digital file? Was it recording in analog at the same time it was in digital?

134. Lukas Kendall - July 22, 2009

We were asked by Paramount not to remix the 32-track given that a new mix of the multitrack would necessarily sound different from what was approved by the composer and filmmakers at the time of the film.

The analogue 3-track was better for our purposes than the 3-track mix on the digital because the digital had to be “baked” in order to get playback (the tape stock gets sticky after all these years and can only go through the machine once it has literally been put in an oven for a period of time) and the baking caused digital “pops” that had to be meticulously removed.

I think once you hear the CD you will approve of the sound! Thank you for your insightful questions.

Lukas Kendall

135. braxus - July 22, 2009

Lukas- Were at least the 32 track transfered over to a new digi format for archiving at least, even though it won’t be used?

136. RD - July 22, 2009

#132. braxus wrote: “how could a dupe 3 track analog tape sound better then the original digital file?”

What a sad commentary. Analogue is superior in so many ways, especially to the digital crap called MP3s that everyone listens too now. The analogue tape was probably encoded in Dolby A, reducing tape noise substantially, with greater dynamic range and frequency response and a lot more forgiving of any dropouts caused by age.

There was no 32 track 1″ tape. It was digital. The tape had to be baked and it caused some of the tracks to imprint causing data dropouts. Combined with the 50Hz re-sampling issues, the end result was not as good as the analogue. Once you bake a tape you have to transfer it as the original is essentially destroyed for future long term storage. While re-mixing would be possible now, the tracks would have to be meticulously cleaned up before one could attempt it. But that was not the goal. Though, I’m sure budget played into it as well. If it is ever attempted in the future a substantial budget would have to be established to restore the tape (and might even have to rely on the analogue safety to fill some holes).

The session would have been recorded and mastered on this system:

http://mixonline.com/TECnology-Hall-of-Fame/1978-EM-Mastering/

The digital and analogue 3-track masters would have been slaved and made at the same time. A “safety” is NOT a dub. A safety is run at the same time and was for years in the early days of digital “just in case”. I would not be surprised if they ran a 24 track analogue back-up as well. Hard to believe now but many people were leery of digital and preferred analogue, so the practice persisted years after digital proved itself. Also, In those days, the 32-track digital source would have been run through an analogue mixing board. So in the mastering process it would have been DAD, meaning the digital result would not have been substantially better than the analogue master, except for tape noise, which the dolby A did an extremely good job of keeping at bay in professional systems. Considering the kludged 3M DAC (12 + 8 bit) in those days, digital would have only been slightly better mastering source for some purposes.

It’s easy to second guess something like this today, but it was 1982, the dawn of digital recording, and today it’s not as easy as simply transferring the digital information off the tape into a Pro Tools session and re-mixing it in your living room.

137. braxus - July 22, 2009

Thanks for the comments RD. I assumed the analog tape was made from the digital master, which was not correct. I wonder how Star Trek 1 managed to stay digital- different format?

Also I am an analog lover who prefers tapes over CDs, so I can understand how the analog tape would sound better- only if recorded right from the board itself and not off the digital master tape. I only agree the digital master would be prefered if there was no analog original recorded along with the digital.

I still hope they preserved the 32 track tape on a hard drive- like SACD format since it works with 50 khz sampling frequency.

138. Lukas Kendall - July 22, 2009

Friends, I’ll be honest, I am hesitant to start getting into the behind-the-scenes of the analogue vs. digital tape issues with people I do not know. By the way, yes, there was also a 2″ analogue backup—very insightful. The 1″ was not transferred in toto due to the cost but I assure you it is safe and sound next to my magnet collection.

The fact is, I could tell people we made the master from silly putty, and 99% of the listeners would not care, and one person would ask why we did not use the digital silly putty. Let me just say that the CD is actually a hybrid of the digital and analogue tapes and I would be floored if anyone could tell the difference by ear…but you are welcome to try!

Lukas

139. Tanru - July 23, 2009

They also better release the music for The Search For Spock because that TOO is an amazing soundtrack and sorta (of course) twins with TWOK.

140. Frank - July 23, 2009

The Search for Spock won’t come in the near future, Lukas said on the FSM home page. This is not because he doesn’t want to, but because it’s not something that follows naturally from Star Trek II, given that the LP rights are controlled by a different company (EMI, not Atlantic Records).

141. Jeyl - July 23, 2009

Lukas: “I have received more than a few suggestions to release Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. Really, you don’t say?- I’ll make you this deal: I will try, but please leave me alone while I do. Thanks! ”

Uh…. I’m not quite sure how to take that. Is he telling us to fu** off? I buy two copies of the Wrath of Khan soundtrack and he says this just because a lot of fans have an interst? What is wrong with just saying “I will try” and leaving it at that? it’s like he’s trying to make us feel guilty in expressing interest in other potential releases.

I don’t feel too good about supporting people who post about how good their sales are and treating the people who helped make those sales happen like they were children.

142. Lukas Kendall - July 23, 2009

Hi Jeyl, no and I’m sorry it came out that way. Please accept my apologies. I wrote that at the FSM site where our usual readers know we don’t announce titles ahead of time as a way of cutting down on “is it ready yet?” emails. I should have been more thoughtful. Thanks for chiming in.

Lukas

143. ScottDS - July 23, 2009

For those that don’t read the FSM board, this is LK’s reply to Jeyl –

Hi Jeyl, you are quite right — I am sorry — and I saw your comment on trekmovie as well. I’m a little afraid to appear to promise something and then not be able to deliver.

Lukas

144. John - July 23, 2009

I would think it would be tough to concentrate on getting work done if your inbox kept getting filled with e-mails from fans asking for an album. With this message he’s acknowledged that there is demand for it and that he’ll look into it. It doesn’t offend me at all.

145. Jeyl - July 23, 2009

^144. John

He said he’d “try” and that is more than enough to keep me from asking again and again. After all, I did wait all these years for this soundtrack. :)

And I’m glad he responded back to me as quickly as he did. In fact, a lot of people from FSM did. Some actually thought I canceled my order because of his comments, and that’s not the case at all. As someone who deals in customer support, I just saw his comments as something that I wouldn’t say to a paying customer. If everyone is cool about it, than I’ll be cool. I think what Lukas and FSM has done is fantastic and they will continue to have my support.

146. RD - July 23, 2009

#138 – LOL, but interesting note about transferring the 1″ 32-trk. Since there are probably numerous reels considering the amount of takes and number of cues, you would have only baked the reels you needed. Works for me. But the fact you had to bake them only tells me that these reels need to be transferred and preserved sooner rather than later. I’ll bet the 2″ analogue 24-trk has held up better. Viva la safety!

As far as SACD goes, it is really too bad that the mp3 appeared as early as it did, or the SACD might have done for audio what Blu-Ray has done for the DVD. But for some reason, people do not hear as well as they see. Very sad. Indeed, thanks to the ever evolving compression schemes and the dominance of MP3s and iPods, SACD will likely never happen in any popular way. It’s too bad really. Eventually when storage, band-width and download speeds improve and costs drop higher quality audio may re-emerge on the consumer stage simply because they can for no additional cost, and for a lot of music it will be too late. But I imagine yet another replacement of ones audio collection down the road, but probably not until there is a much more elegant format than SACD or BD.

147. Raktajino - July 23, 2009

We’re now at the three day mark and my order is still pending and no charge against my credit card. Once again I must say I’m not so happy with the “immediate” processing and shipping.

148. Raktajino - July 23, 2009

Figures….

I decide to check one more time and just now a charge appeared on my credit card (as of yesterda). Yay! My apolgoies for the grouchy posts. I’m too anxious for a “silly” soundtrack. Since I’m going on a road trip this weekend, I was actually hoping it would be here by Friday.

Sorry and thanks.

149. ger - July 23, 2009

Two scores I’d sell my soul for:
the complete ST 5: THE FINAL FRONTIER score, and the complete ST9: INSURRECTION, with the final showdown as heard in the film included, not the fake one on the GNP album.

150. Mark Lynch - July 24, 2009

This is great news and I will be ordering as soon as I have any money to spare. I always wondered why the amount of tracks on the 1982 CD seemed so low.

Can anyone tell me if this is available in the UK directly or just from FSM?

Thanks.

Wow! Great news…. \o/

151. Jeff.H - July 24, 2009

I ordered the soundtrack Monday evening.
Postman brought it today!
Listening to it now.
So far, so great!

152. harley3k - July 27, 2009

Flying Spaghetti Monster?

153. Joe T - August 27, 2009

I just ordered mine, too.

BTW, for those asking about a complete soundtrack for ST III (all the original tracks, nothing omitted), I suggest you try Google. You’ll find it if you know how to search for such things.

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155. andy summers - June 15, 2010

Oh, very nice I’ll look for this and order it. I still have the original LP.

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