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	<title>Comments on: Review of Wrath of Khan Extended Soundtrack + Producer Interview</title>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got mine its great

many of you should try the expanded Goldsmith scores for FC and Insurrection, the additional cues are great on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got mine its great</p>
<p>many of you should try the expanded Goldsmith scores for FC and Insurrection, the additional cues are great on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Cheis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Cheis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not available through iTunes?

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not available through iTunes?</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: StarTrekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>StarTrekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got my copy in the mail. The little bit after Kahn puts the eels in is *definitely* Vina&#039;s theme. I recognized it right away. The same theme is also heard on the planet with the spore projecting plants that makes everyone loopy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my copy in the mail. The little bit after Kahn puts the eels in is *definitely* Vina&#8217;s theme. I recognized it right away. The same theme is also heard on the planet with the spore projecting plants that makes everyone loopy.</p>
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		<title>By: swh1939</title>
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		<dc:creator>swh1939</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[[38. Tom - The original version of the epilogue and end titles doesn’t include the Spock voice over. So you have both versions on this CD.]]

That&#039;s mostly true.  The music is ever-so-slightly arranged differently.  I suspect most people won&#039;t be able to tell the difference.  But I&#039;m glad to have any official version without the Nimoy voice over.

My favorite new track is #9, The Genesis Project.  It&#039;s a wonderful avante garde piece.  In my opinion, if it weren&#039;t in the movie, that scene would be less interesting.

And if anyone has any reservations about getting this CD, don&#039;t wait.  Get it now.  You won&#039;t be sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[[38. Tom - The original version of the epilogue and end titles doesn’t include the Spock voice over. So you have both versions on this CD.]]</p>
<p>That&#8217;s mostly true.  The music is ever-so-slightly arranged differently.  I suspect most people won&#8217;t be able to tell the difference.  But I&#8217;m glad to have any official version without the Nimoy voice over.</p>
<p>My favorite new track is #9, The Genesis Project.  It&#8217;s a wonderful avante garde piece.  In my opinion, if it weren&#8217;t in the movie, that scene would be less interesting.</p>
<p>And if anyone has any reservations about getting this CD, don&#8217;t wait.  Get it now.  You won&#8217;t be sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: RichyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My copy has just arrived here in the UK. Cant wait to get home and put it on the surround system, lie back on the sofa and immerse myself for 80 minutes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My copy has just arrived here in the UK. Cant wait to get home and put it on the surround system, lie back on the sofa and immerse myself for 80 minutes!</p>
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		<title>By: toddk</title>
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		<dc:creator>toddk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys know anything about &quot;Net Seer&quot;? ..it blocks the page I click on and I have to keep clicking back to see trekmovie stories and comments.. kind of irritating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys know anything about &#8220;Net Seer&#8221;? ..it blocks the page I click on and I have to keep clicking back to see trekmovie stories and comments.. kind of irritating!</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86. –

1) Nope. No royalties were due Goldsmith. They owned the music outright. Only if they reused the recording would he be entitled to additional money out of Paramount&#039;s pocket as an AFM musician. Any royalties due Goldsmith as a composer would have come out of Horner&#039;s pocket.

3) The main reason composers don&#039;t like to use other people&#039;s material is because they earn no royalties on it which is the primary way composers earn their living, not from the initial creative fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86. –</p>
<p>1) Nope. No royalties were due Goldsmith. They owned the music outright. Only if they reused the recording would he be entitled to additional money out of Paramount&#8217;s pocket as an AFM musician. Any royalties due Goldsmith as a composer would have come out of Horner&#8217;s pocket.</p>
<p>3) The main reason composers don&#8217;t like to use other people&#8217;s material is because they earn no royalties on it which is the primary way composers earn their living, not from the initial creative fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among the reasons they didn&#039;t reuse the TMP music in TWOK: 
1. Cost - they would have to pay Goldsmith royalties for the score, and the movie was being produced by Paramount&#039;s TV division on a shoe-string budget less than a fourth of what TMP cost.
2. Theme - I making TWOK, Meyer was inspired by the C.S. Forester novels about Captain Horatio Hornblower (Watch the 1950 movie with Gregory Peck; the similarities to TWOK are not coincidence).  For the music, along with much of the production, Meyer wanted a nautical feel which the TMP score doesn&#039;t provide.
3.  Composers tend to like to write their own music, not reuse other people&#039;s work, unless they are paying homage.  Horner&#039;s use of the TV theme at the beginning of the film was one of his best decisions.  It said right away that this is &quot;Star Trek&quot;, not a film called Star Trek that really wants to be something profound like 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the reasons they didn&#8217;t reuse the TMP music in TWOK:<br />
1. Cost &#8211; they would have to pay Goldsmith royalties for the score, and the movie was being produced by Paramount&#8217;s TV division on a shoe-string budget less than a fourth of what TMP cost.<br />
2. Theme &#8211; I making TWOK, Meyer was inspired by the C.S. Forester novels about Captain Horatio Hornblower (Watch the 1950 movie with Gregory Peck; the similarities to TWOK are not coincidence).  For the music, along with much of the production, Meyer wanted a nautical feel which the TMP score doesn&#8217;t provide.<br />
3.  Composers tend to like to write their own music, not reuse other people&#8217;s work, unless they are paying homage.  Horner&#8217;s use of the TV theme at the beginning of the film was one of his best decisions.  It said right away that this is &#8220;Star Trek&#8221;, not a film called Star Trek that really wants to be something profound like 2001.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 I know what you mean.  The credits for Cocoon come at the end, so I spent most of the movie not knowing who the composer of this wonderful score was.  Then when the scene of the boat escaping came up, and I heard ST:TWOK, I immediately turned to the friend I was with and said &quot;Horner&quot;.  I love Horner&#039;s work, but he does tend to repeat himself a lot.  I remember a passage from the beginning of Aliens repeated verbatum in Patriot Games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 I know what you mean.  The credits for Cocoon come at the end, so I spent most of the movie not knowing who the composer of this wonderful score was.  Then when the scene of the boat escaping came up, and I heard ST:TWOK, I immediately turned to the friend I was with and said &#8220;Horner&#8221;.  I love Horner&#8217;s work, but he does tend to repeat himself a lot.  I remember a passage from the beginning of Aliens repeated verbatum in Patriot Games.</p>
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		<title>By: toddk</title>
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		<dc:creator>toddk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the score from STIV was weird but I bought the cd anyway,

The music from generations was quite excellent.

STVI was also weird, The title score was good, but the rest was pretty forgettable.

also hoping for complete film scores from all trek movies and TV shows...yes even enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the score from STIV was weird but I bought the cd anyway,</p>
<p>The music from generations was quite excellent.</p>
<p>STVI was also weird, The title score was good, but the rest was pretty forgettable.</p>
<p>also hoping for complete film scores from all trek movies and TV shows&#8230;yes even enterprise.</p>
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