Personally I much enjoyed the film, though as many have seem to have stated here, there and everywhere, I too was left with a bit of a bitter aftertaste upon the movie’s conclusion, pondering on what I perceived as the more ’sour’ aspects of the feature film (- – -no malice intended).

Credit should be given to appropriate parties when appropriate (and hopefully it isn’t too much of a stretch to think that most people could find at least one element they were happy with). Criticisms should be evaluated and negative comments analyzed for validity (conversely, I think that it isn’t too much of a stretch to think that most people could find at least one element they were not happy with). As life forms living in a linear temporal event (ok, conjectural if one thinks outside the square), the best we can do is reflect on our past to hopefully make improvements and work towards a better future. If that means that in this sense that the latest Star Trek film acts as a jumping off point for even more grandiose motion picture (or television) events than the mores the merrier (it is logical to work towards an optimistic of the future…)

After all, one must remember that even the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself was tasked to run Star Trek through a second pilot seeking improvements and refining. Had the journey ended so soon, sighting rejection after only the first outing, then I could only ponder how poorer the world would be… and how too none of us would be here eliciting such a visceral debate on such a beloved and emotive subject.

All the best…

I agree with you, different universe will be DIFFERENT.

But the laws of physics in Trek apply to all universes.

They cant just say their time travel theory is the only use-able one.

This thread’s gone crazy. There’s a crow here that’s decided to get rude and use cruel stereotypes and spew hate? For frak’s sake people, I’d agree with the next person that this movie was too dumb for Trek and that the writers need to address that, and that they should be open to fair criticism– but Frak!

People! Show a little class. We have crossed a line (#74, 73, 60). Pull back on the reins. Come about. Whatever you want to call it, STOP.

John Ross, what’s with the “lie” stuff? The movie caught you by surprise even though they said “This isn’t your father’s Star Trek”?
Slightly different universes does imply that things will be different. And if that is a little confusing… well, I guess it was not as “dumbed down” as a few here said.
But your opinion matters to you, as mine matters to me. Glad I won’t be sitting next to you at the sequel.

Only the very gullible ones.

“You could also say, they’ve lied.”

Yes. Because they’ve lied.

“But that would be a little bit too harsh; wouldn’t it?”

No, although admittedly the word “lied” isn’t permitted (by law) within 500 yards of anyone who works in Hollywood. Within that culture, lying has a long list of euphemistic titles to help people sleep at night with the fact that they can hardly get through the day without lying to someone, and helping them convince themselves that it’s the same for everyone, perhaps. You could say “spun” rather than lied, or “promoted.” Other Hollywood words for lying include “speaking,” “answering” and “signing this contract which includes a clause that the script is original and not ripped off from another movie.”

The Prime Universe don’t count anymore and if you take a look on the USS Kelvin and it’s design, it never had for this movie.

Every statement from JJ or Orci just were for tranquilizing the hardcore-fans. You could also say, they’ve lied. But that would be a little bit too harsh; wouldn’t it?

Lying to the public doesn’t reflect on someone’s intelligence, only their honesty.

For example, the Enterprise crew were still admirable men and women with a basic sense of right and wrong and the will to incorporate it into their choices.

After all, they did, for all intents and purposes, completely erase the last 43 years of Star Trek from existence.

Thats what I’ve been trying to say. And I don’t like it.

The movie was an OK action flick, but I still can’t except that 43 years of Trek just went down the drain. That is a NO NO in my book.