Rachel Nichols & Eric Bana Talk Star Trek Sequel Potential August 4, 2009
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We know that the main crew are all coming back for the ‘Star Trek Something Something’ sequel to this year’s Star Trek blockbuster, but what about the supporting cast. In a couple of new interviews Rachel Nichols (Gaila the Orion) and Eric Bana (Nero) weigh in on their future with Trek. Bana also talks about his deleted scenes.
Rachel Nichols on sequel return: I hope so
While at the press junket for GI Joe, our friend Jordan Hoffman of UGO asked Rachel Nichols if Gaila the Orion will be back for the next Trek.
More Gaila?
Eric Bana on return to Trek: did you see the movie?
Eric Bana is also out and about doing press for both Funny People and The Time Traveler’s Wife, and (as we reported in CelebWatch last week), he too has been asked if he is back. Here is what he told ComingSoon:
CS: Do you know if J.J. wants to have you back for "Star Trek?"
Bana: Did he say that? No.CS: I was just curious because as we know, Nero is a time traveler, and in theory, he could just come back in time from the future, so he doesn’t have to be dead.
Bana: Theoretically, but no, I think I’ve been taken care of in the movie. I mean, you saw what happened to Nero, so I doubt it.
And in a group interview (via SciFiWire) Bana said " "It was just a one-time for me." Bana also talked about the cut Rura Penthe scenes that will be on the Star Trek DVD and Blu-ray releases:
There were a few scenes, some detail, but nothing really that leaves you with any less clue who Nero is. I mean, there was a sequence in jail and me escaping from jail. Yeah, you’re kind of bummed when your fight sequences go, because you work on them and stuff, but I could totally see—I understand the editor’s pains—and I could see why they dropped things.
No more Nero
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I really like Nero as the villain. Compared to the most recent villains (Shinzon and Ru’afo) I think he was awesome!
We didn’t actually see Nero *die* as such. A my brother put it in the car on the way back after seeing the movie… “he’ll be back… he’ll be back”.
I reckon by the 3rd movie, we may see him again.
Well, having Gaila back would be fine, though she was assigned to a different ship other than Enterprise and all other ships were destroyed at Vulcan. Lifepod, I guess. And I seem to remember seeing an Orion in the audience at Kirk’s promotion.
As for Nero, no. He served his purpose as the rebooter. Let’s move on.
Seriously, guys, this is what killed Star Trek before. Let the dead stay dead. Move on. Explore new territory. Keep credibility with the general audience.
I do think Nero’s story is done.. leave anything else for the comics and novels.
“We didn’t actually see Nero *die* as such.”
We didn’t see Khan die either :)
do we REALLY know if Nero was killed. I mean..it was a black hole thing that “destroyed” the ship…so…perhaps parts of the Narada or survivors from the Narada were transported elsewhere in time.
the above is all just for argument’s sake. I think Nero died. and even if he didnt…we certainly dont need him back for the sequel. Any script that contained Nero would be a bad idea. I cant believe the interviewer asked that question.
I think Nero’s potential was never realized as a villain, not because of Bana, I think he did great, but I think the stuff of his that was cut from the film hurt. Still, it would be beyond stupid to bring him back for the next movie, even worse than if they use Khan (though not by much). He’s dead, end of story. As for Gaila, she could make a little come back. Nobody ever said she died in the Vulcan battle. She could have been assigned to Enterprise (she did seem pretty happy about her assignment) or made it into an escape pod. Either way, no big deal, but it would be kinda cool to see her around the big E.
I think that subtitle in the story says it all: did these writers actually see the movie?? He’s DEAD, Jim. Jeez.
#3 i’m pretty sure that was Gaila who we spotted at the endind ceremony. So, its likely that she survived the the attacke on vulcan
I still feel that the Nero character was kind of one dimensional and didn’t really have a plausible motivation to go as bonkers as he apparently did. And why would his crew have such unwavering loyalty to a guy who was basically a job-site foreman? Also that ship of his made no sense whatsoever. Captured Borg technology used on a minig ship? That was really the best use the Romulans could find for it? If the mining ships for Romulus are that formidable just imagine what the actual Warbirds are like. the future Federation was doomed. Good thing Spock’s mission to save them failed.
Gaila was zapped on the Farragut, no?
And would she come back as mere Kirk-centric eye-candy, or as a full-fledged character?
No real problem with Galia- might be interesting to see her take on a Rand kind of role. As for Nero? Liked him, watched him die, moving on.
Galia or another Orion would be good!
The Orion slave girl Gaila wasn’t at the promotion ceremony for Kirk so I’m guessing she’s dead. Then again did we hear what ship she was assigned too? I don’t remember seeing her on the Enterprise after they left spacedock so I betting she’s dead. Which is fine, she wasn’t that hot… could be the curly hair. heh
As for Kahn, well we did see him stab his last breath at Kirk, I’d say he’s dead. Course that was a different time line, but we aren’t talking about that… please let’s not talk about that. lol
Would love to see Gaila and/or other Orions in the next Trek, but please please please can they fix the makeup? The Orions on ‘Enterprise’ looked so much better.
I concur about the Orion women. The hair should be black. It’s what I like.
Wasn’t it a bit daft having an Orion female onboard?!?
Don’t they project something that makes them irresistable to men?
I mean.. Every time she’d go for a p iss, half the room would follow her! :-)
she is cute tho…,
One possible scenario is that Gaila was rescued by a Vulcan ship escaping before it was imploded.
If Nero did come back, I’m guessing Eric Bana doesn’t want to have that much to do with him. Recast. Maybe Edward Norton. A better actor might make for a better villain. Otherwise, Nero just wasn’t all that interesting.
If we were talking TV series, yeah, it’d be great to have Nero back- but when we are only getting 2 hours of Trek every 2-3 years, I’d think there are greener pastures to be explored. Using Nero again would just be plain lazy; he wasn’t that great a villain in the first place.
#18: If a Deltan can serve, so can an Orion. : )
And as I recall, the comment that there was something about Orion women that drove men crazy didn’t require anything really biochemical – I always thought it was more a reputed way of acting rather than physical.
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It is Deltan women who have the phromones that drive men crazy.
Remember Sulu’s uncomfortable ‘hide the boner’ moment in ST:TMP extended cuts? Knowing what we now know, that makes George Takei one of the acting greats of all time:)
How about Gaila being the mother of Kirk’s child instead of Carol Marcus? That would be a funny twist on canon. Althou there might not be a genesis device or maybe this child will make a genesis device that works and they can bring back Vulcan.
a few here make a point i hadn’t thought of. as a good part of the fleet was wiped out at le-mort-de-vulcan, the enterprise, for once, really WILL be “the only ship in the quadrant to address the crisis”. at least for a while.
also, red haired, green skinned babes are just dandy.
Gaila issue:
Uhura was kinda pissed when they were all being assigned to their ships, while Gaila was extremely happy. This could mean that she was assigned to the Enterprise. Just because we didn’t see her doesn’t mean she wasn’t. And THAT right there is my single biggest issue with people declaring “canon.” Just because we didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Nero:
Leave him dead. We saw him die. The Narada was destroyed. No further questions. Bring on the Klingons!
I thought Gaila was assigned to the Enterprise and Uhura to Farragut, which was why Gaila turned and squealed to Uhura and why Uhura then angrily demanded Spock transfer her to Enterprise. Or maybe I missed something.
Also, Gaila is clearly visible in the SF ceremony in the end, so she lived. Unless that’s Diora Baird.
The Klingons again? I’m kinda tired of the Klingons in Trek.
so lets get this straight rachel nichols wants the fans to go online and campaign for her to be in the next star trek movie, but yet when star trek fans asked her for an autograph at the premiere in L.A. back in april, she laughed in the fans faces and kept on walking . and did the same thing a few weeks back at another movie premiere she attended.
the ship needs a hot Andorian or maybe Vulcan..to piss off Uhura into Kirk’s arms…..maybe…we need to see Nurse Chapel, Mr Kyle, and more red shirts must die!!!!!
As for Nero///he served his purpose creating the alternate universe..let him go in peace….time for a new baddie…be it Khan or whomever…
Nero wasn’t as one dimensional as I thought as first, though the dead wife vengence story is a little weak et al Soran in Generations..and I love Malcolm!!!….little droogies!!!…. looks like Bana is too busy to do anything else right now anyway…maybe they will ask him to be Banner in the Avengers…though Ed Norton played a better Banner, I think!…
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Who is Rachel Nichols anyway? And who really cares? A lot of women could put on scanty underwear and green makeup and look better than her.
And there are better Thespians around too. Is Thespian the word I was searching for?
Bad Bob…
Bad bad Bob.
Nero could come back,,
hes just lost in time
( for now)
capnjake….
you seem to paint with broad strokes. How do you know either of those things occurred involving Nichols? Were you there? for both? for either? And what is the context of the situation? was she busy? was she in a hurry? was she laughing at something or someone else? were the autograph seekers rude? who knows?!
dont jump to such big conclusions….plus..ultimately she doesn’t actually OWE anyone an autograph.
I love that whole plot idea of multiple Klingon ships capturing the Narada. Was it all filmed & the effects finished?
@28 But Klingons are as significant a part of Trek as most of the Enterprise bridge crew. I understand what you mean though and would like to see a fresh take on them, not drastically different, but just not the cosmic savages we saw in the later years of Trek.
@33 – I don’t know the instances of which capnjake speaks but I think any actor who is lobbying for fan support DOES owe autographs.
Nero: Someone who’s angry and destroys Vulcan.
Result……Mission Accomplished!
Nero: More than just a 2-dimensional character.
Result……FAILED
#6: You actually do see Khan die. He dies before the Genesis device even detonates. After he says, “To the last, I will grapple with thee… from Hell’s heart, I stab at thee! For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee!” he dies.
24…
I don’t think Orion DNA is compatible with human DNA. If that were the case the universe would be overpopulated with half breed Orions. Neither of these characters made that much of a impact on the movie so they really aren’t needed back.
#26: Nero: Leave him dead. We saw him die. The Narada was destroyed. No further questions. Bring on the Klingons!
Hear, hear! I want to see cruel, viscious, savage, yet honorable Klingons! At least honorable in the Klingon sense of the word.
They are dead. I don’t want to see them again.
Anyway just tell me why were the vulcans so painfully unable to do anything with the nero’s mining drill? Weren’t they much more advanced then humans and didn’t they assist them with a first step into space exploration and a warp drive? I don’t understand why the hell didn’t they at least try to send some ships to destroy that drill:-\ They were rather hidden in their caves :o How absurd…
I thought Vulcan ships had no weapons? Or is that just fanon? Also, the drill blocked communications, making defence difficult… The fact that they got off the distress call at all was pretty amazing. Especially if Nero was able to access and disable to planetary defence codes using the far-advanced Jellyfish. *Easy* fix.
As for Gaila, I hope we do see her again! We never hear where she was assigned, but her joy at ehr assignment to me means Enterprise, until proven otherwise.
I’m also hoping Galia was happy about her assignment because she was assigned to the Enterprise, and that she’ll be back in the next movie. She had very little screen time, granted, but it was very entertaining screen time and she and Kirk make a great contrast (and foil) to Spock and Uhura.
#35 I want evil cunning Klingon’s in TOS instead of these TNG cavemen barbarians that never would have made it into space from day one. Of course keep the pronounced ridges like in ST:TMP.
I thought that Nero was one of the ONLY flaws in a historic film that not only relaunched the franchise AND became the first Trek film embraced by NON Trek fans since Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home(23 years ago!) but ALSO accomplished the Herculean task of breaking the even/odd curse that’s been going on since Star Trek:The Motion Picture!(30 years ago!!!)
For the sequel we need a REAL villain.
We need, nay we MUST have, KHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, for anyone who is unsure of Gaila’s fate: join the club. It is not said in the movie which ship she was assigned to nor is she shown in the ceremony at the end of the film.
If I had to guess, being that she was only a minor supporting character, she’s dead and we won’t NEED her back.
On another note, I think Sienna Miller would make a super hot Carol Marcus.
I know just what Star Trek needs for an antagonist:
Decepticons.
Orci and Kurtzman, it’s so obvious.
Didn’t the Orion Girl die? She was on one of the other ships that got blown away by the Narada when the Federation fleet went to attack.
Or… have Gaila serving under Fleet Captain Garth, she goes insane with him and changes her name to Marta. We know how that turns out!
Garth in Star Trek 12!!
Party on, Garth!
no khan.
I am all for the Orion girl appearing again…although I would say they need to remember that the Orion women have Black hair, not Auburn. Just follow the example as seen in Enterprise episode “BOUND”. Now those were Orions!!!!!
As for Nero…. he played his fiddle.
I think the Orion character was just there for the comedy of that scene. The character was not significant and should not be recycled.
That said, I would argue that Rachel Nichols was unrecognizable in that makeup. In the true spirit of canon, I think they should recycle the actress in a new role with less makeup.
How ’bout a shoutout to the original Lost in Space and have Gaila the Onion.
^52 “no khan”
How about a Khan done right?
No more Nero, please. But I did like Rachel Nicols character (for obvious reasons). She could still be alive, because I don’t remember hearing what ship she was assigned to. Could easily have been the Enterprise.
They’ve been talking about bring Khan into second film well they could tie it in with Nero, We don’t see Nero die what he survived found the Botany Bay and revived Khan and made an alliance with him. it just a thought.
Garo! Where you been dude?
Ooooooo Nero getting sucked into the “prime” timeline.. meeting “old” Kirk.. and old and young kirk joining forces to defeat him once and for all.. Oooooo Yesssssssssss (and throw in Picard and Archer for good measure)…
“Lifepod, I guess”
Sucked into the blackhole of Vulcan! Saw the film for the 6th time today, great film!
As much as I would love to see Rachel Nichols back as Galia the unfortunate truth is that she was on one of the ships that was desroyed by Nero at Vulcan. She was definitely one of the highlights of the movie! :)
And I may be a little biased as Eric Bana is a fellow Aussie but I thought he played an awesome Villain in Nero!
I’ve seen a preview for Funny People and it looks pretty funny, Eric Bana plays a St.Kilda Saints fan, of which he is a real life fan, who are currently 18-0 in the current AFL (Australian Football League) season and are one of the favourites for the Premiership (Championship).
Eric Bana actually started out as a comedian on Australia tv and a pretty funy one at that. He was on a skit show called Full Frontal back in the 90’s. Check out one of his classic chracters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqFcdz4gGKA
Yes, Bring back Gaila!!
Nero on the other hand. Um. If you blinked, you’d miss him. I’d love to have him better fleshed out, but there’s no need for cheap tricks in reviving characters the audience thought to be dead. Especially such a shell of a character that nobody cared about to begin with (except those that had read the Countdown, and even with that, I was still surprised he didn’t seem to match the Countdown character…) anyhoo.
Bring back Gaila! Loved her. She could seriously play a Saavik type.
Star Trek: Where No One Has Gone Before
Starring Jeremy Renner as Commander Gary Mitchell and Sienna Miller as Dr. Elizabeth Dehner.
Gaila was like a sorority sister with green skin. Very dull. Very ordinary. Not at all like the sultry, mysterious “Orion girl” we saw in The Cage. She was a major disappointment.
I’m a big fan of Jeremy Renner , but he doesn’t strike me as Gary Mitchell. I think he’d be great as the commander of a Star Base or the leader of a colony.
Sienna Miller I don’t think would be a good casting decision.
Wow it looks like Rachel leaned up a lot since Trek! Jeremy Renner looks to be a front runner for the Mad Max reboot.
Id love to see George Takei do an appearance in the new franchise as the mentioned (in TMP), but never shown Admiral Nogura. I think that would be a great role for him.
As Jim says, “Let’s move on.” I didn’t find Nero all that interesting as a villian. Would like to see someone/thing superior to humans who still doesn’t quite have it together enough to make it.make it.
I did enjoy the Orion Slave girl in the IMAX version of the movie.
Nero was a two-bit cardboard scenery-chomping caricature devoid of character, sensible motive, depth or wit. Yet another flimsy Khan knockoff in a series of Khan knockoffs.
And I say that with all due respect to Bana, who is a fine actor who really elevated the material considerably. He made Nero more than he ever might have been with another performer, and did Nero the serious compliment of taking him seriously and really working it. Bravo, Eric Bana; you were one of the many excellent casting decisions that helped make ST09 a fun time.
By all means, bring Bana back someday – but with another role, one worthy of his skills as an actor (and, as long as we’re wishing – one worthy of the audience, too).
70 – I agree. Although there’s something sort of interesting to him being a fairly random pissed off Romulan with a grudge against Spock (for the very recent death of his wife/Romulus, in the beginning) who kind of got accidentally, and unwittingly, pulled into the past and had 25 crazy years to come up with a crazy revenge plan… the prison stuff may have helped establish that. Although, how would they have calculated exactly when Spock was exiting (being miners in prison) and then wait to escape then? Whatever. But yeah, revenge for the death of a hot wife is a Khanny motive, indeed.
Wasn’t Galia on the two ships that went to warp before the Enterprise, to Vulcan and they both were destroyed by Nero?
Correction : Wasn’t Galia on ONE of the two ships
No Nero, he was not a great villain in my eyes, there was not enough back story in the movie and he was not as layered like Khan or Soran or Ru’afo.
Nah, he went further back in time and was the “Diaphanous, Vaguely Romulan-Shouldered Future Dude” from ST:Enterprise who caused all of the temporal dilly-dallying. Dovetails nicely, I think. Can also explain some ENT inconsistencies. Yet another alternate timeline!
# 33 Garen
yes i was there at the star trek premiere and did witness first hand when she laughed in the face of several fans waiting to see the arrivals, when asked to sign an autograph.
and yes she laughed at them not at something else.
she is known as one of the worst when it comes to her interactions with fans, going back to her days on alias.
Its one thing to not want to sign an autograph or take a photo when you are going out to dinner, taking in a day at the park with your family, going shopping etc, its another to laugh at people mockingly and not want to sign or take photos with your fans when you are at an event promoting your movie.
bigger and better stars happily go out of there way even when they are being rushed by their publicists to head into the theatre to take photos or sign or greet fans.
Heck Katherine Heigl took her heels off and ran barefoot over to greet fans after appearing on a talk show taping a few weeks ago, even though she was suppose to be across town 5 mins earlier for the premiere of the the ugly truth.
the least she(rachel) could have done was wave and say sorry guys i have to get inside but thanks for comming out and supporting us. (others have done this)
72 Dan-
You are absolutely right, and since in J.J. Trek universe once a character has been killed in a prior trek movie its not possible to bring them back to life in a future movie,star trek XI will be the first and last time we will have to see her in Trek.
well, if i remember correctly, all the ships that were destroyed or severly damaged at vulcan were ultimatly sucked into the black hole, effectivly sealing the fate of any surviviors. as for nero..there is 25 years of stories that could and can be told in book or comic book form. bana is right, nero is done.
So both of these actors parts were killed off in the last movie, so why are they being asked if they’ll be returning for a sequel…riiiight!!!
4 Former Trekologist: I agree 100%!
No Khan. No Nero. No plot retreads. For all that is holy, how about something totally NEW???
If something has to be revisited, let it be Gaila. Having her in a minor support role (perhaps talking to Uhura on a comm-channel in the background ) would be more than enough to appease the hardcore fans.
The point of Star Trek (2009) is that the sky is now the limit again in terms of potential plot action. Everything is on the table again, and now is the time for the producers to take full advantage of it.
AMEN to #81!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
NO KHAN! NO MORE NERO!!!!! Sequel needs to be something totally new otherwise Trek falls back into the same cycle that nearly killed it.
And this, my fellow Treknoids, is cosmic truth.
Neros dead!
whats the point of making news stories from Journalists who are stuck for a question and pull a lame one out of their ass.
As for Gaila, sure bring her back.
Yeah, bring Galia back as a minor character: she’s fun. But the make-up really needs sorting out!
As for Rachel Nichols not signing autographs, a lot of actors, actresses and models don’t any more because the autographs turn up on eBay within 12 hours. I’ve only ever heard through the friends of friends grapevine (she’s a friend of the sister of the wife of one of my friends, so the likelihood of ever meeting her is absolutely zero) what a nice person she is.
@ 84
I am your father’s uncle’s cousin’s nephew’s former roommate.
As the title of the article asks, did anybody actually see the movie? Gaila was assigned to the Farragut with Uhura, which upset Uhura (not that she was upset about being paired with Gaila, but because she wasn’t with Spock).
#85. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^84 Dom: “As for Rachel Nichols not signing autographs, a lot of actors, actresses and models don’t any more because the autographs turn up on eBay within 12 hours”
……So? Anything and their atoms can turn up on eBay for any given reason, whether it’s dust or gold. You can’t tell someone who gets an autograph not to put it up on eBay. And really, I wouldn’t care if I had a fan who took an autograph I gave to him and sold it on eBay. At least he’d be making money in this economy.
Go read up on Babe Ruth and see how he treated Autographs.
And to those who say that celebrities don’t owe fans autographs are completely missing the entire point of autographs.
^ 82 Horatio: “Sequel needs to be something totally new otherwise Trek falls back into the same cycle that nearly killed it. And this, my fellow Treknoids, is cosmic truth.”
Uh, The Wrath of Khan brought back Khan from the original series and that didn’t kill Star Trek. Being totally new does NOT equal success.
#78. toddk wrote: “as for nero..there is 25 years of stories that could and can be told in book or comic book form. bana is right, nero is done.”
Actually this brings up a very good point. There are 25 years of untold history regarding Nero. As such, it is extremely possible that something Nero did during that time which sets up the next movie or even a trilogy of films, can and will be told in flashback, thus reprising Nero in a cameo role, which if available Bana may well be amenable to.
I can even imagine a Khan-type story where Nero strikes back from the grave, even if it’s by video logs only. Of course, there’s always the possibility that Nero stumbled upon Exo III, or planet Mudd, or even Holberg 917G, upon which he forced the inhabitants to construct an android copy(s) of himself, or they did it against his will.
If they want Nero back, there are any number of Trek-plausable ways to get him back, including some that may be relevant to a completely new story with a completely new villain.
#23, your message still has me chuckling as I read it again and again. Never a funnier moment written on these pages than your comment. Great job.
I’m an official member of the Bring Back Gaila Brigade, so seeing her again would be great The Enterprise suffers from a serious shortage of XX-chromosed officers anyway. And remember, nobody in SF is dead until you’ve seen the body, and even then …think of ST:TSFS!
But Nero again? No, no and no.
ERIC BANA returning, though? Fine by me. He had a heavy-make up part, so he could play another character, like Jeffrey Combs repeatedly did on TV.
Bring Gaila back!
*naughty smile*
85. CJS: LOL, it is a ridiculously thin connection isn’t it! I’ve never even met my friend’s sister-in-law! Although my friend’s wife immediately mentioned Rachel Nichols when Star Trek came up in conversation!
88. Jeyl: ‘So? Anything and their atoms can turn up on eBay for any given reason, whether it’s dust or gold. You can’t tell someone who gets an autograph not to put it up on eBay.’
So therefore they don’t give you an autograph.
‘And really, I wouldn’t care if I had a fan who took an autograph I gave to him and sold it on eBay. At least he’d be making money in this economy.’
Other people do care. And when an actor is a commodity in this day and age and their autograph is part of their image, they have a right to be paid for that autograph if it’s going to be sold! Sadly the sort of people who’ve turned this into a major internet trade have cheapened it for decent people like you!
‘Go read up on Babe Ruth and see how he treated Autographs.’
Babe who? (kidding!)
‘And to those who say that celebrities don’t owe fans autographs . . .’
Well they don’t! :0
‘are completely missing the entire point of autographs.’
I never really did see the point in having a piece paper saying ‘Dear Whatever Your Name is, Break a leg, luv Fred!’
If someone doesn’t do autographs, really that’s up to them. I shouldn’t take it so personally. Maybe she’s shy around fans. Maybe she had a bad day. Maybe she had a wrist injury. Just means you’ll have to try harder next time!!! ;)
Gaila may be dead, But that doesn’t mean Rachel Nichols can’t come back as an alien of another color. There you go, a remake of “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.”
#90: “I can even imagine a Khan-type story [...]”
So can the filmmakers. So far, as near as we can tell, that’s ALL they can imagine.
The New Trek is not canon at all. Romulus is alive and well in the 24th century. JJ has some issues. Never mind that Romulans would never shave their heads, sport facial hair, nor tattoo themselves because they are a conservative people and very much conformists. JJ made them look bad to be like his Star Wars Sith (ie, Darth Maul).
Trek is dead, this is Galaxy Quest: Trek style. Fringe was the only good show JJ ever did, and he killed that with that HORRIBLE cliff hanger with the world trade center (good idea in theory but most certainly the paper should have said “President Hillary moves into new white house”, not Barry Obama). JJ is a typical left wing pot smoking hippie with not a shred of creativity in his blood other than to piss people off.
Putting Khan up again would be like Disney remaking Mary Poppins, its just plain wrong. As I recall, “Enterprise” was barely canon and among the 6 lowest rated episodes were the ones with (dull) Brent Spinner and Khan’s screwed up engineered people. Oh Gawd.
Strike him. strike him down now!
#97: “The New Trek is not canon at all.”
Canon is a corporate distinction, and this film is a (very, very) corporate product.
So, yes, sadly, it’s canon. It’s on screen.
“Trek is dead, this is Galaxy Quest: Trek style.”
Galaxy Quest had heroism.
94 Dom-
wasnt saying they owed any fan anything, iam saying its wrong for her to just laugh in a fans face when they ask for one, and she has indeed done this. if she doesnt want to signthat is fine, but atleast be polite or friendly about, i mean we are people after all.
#89 Jeyl – “Uh, The Wrath of Khan brought back Khan from the original series and that didn’t kill Star Trek. Being totally new does NOT equal success.”
So you are suggesting do a double remake? Wrath of Khan was great. Perhaps one of the best SF films ever made. But its been DONE. We have a new lease on life for Trek… I don’t understand why some fans want to go back over already traveled territory. I suppose if you look at the Trek franchise like Batman where they visited the Joker twice it can make sense to some – but not to me. While we’re at it, why don’t we insist that the next film be about space hippies who steal Spocks brain while a great big space amoeba is sucking up star systems?
For the love of mike, Gaila is dead. How bout we accept (yes even in a movie) that when some one dies, they are gone from this existance and they aren’t coming back. We are such a wimpy nation, can we not have some finality? PLEASE!
Those of you who want Gaila OR Kahn back probably think Elvis is not dead either. Heck, whi not have Mr. Olsen be Sulu’s relief at the helm in the next one, maybe they beamed up the puff of steam he turned into and reconstituted him, Dr McCoy is pretty damn good you know.
The movie was awesome, far better than I have come to expect based on all the previous Treks, a non believer making it is probably the reason it was so good.
#101: “We are such a wimpy nation, can we not have some finality?”
Trek fandom isn’t a nation, and Trek fans of many, many nations post here.
101. TomTheCat: ‘For the love of mike, Gaila is dead. How bout we accept (yes even in a movie) that when some one dies, they are gone from this existance and they aren’t coming back. We are such a wimpy nation, can we not have some finality? PLEASE!’
No, cos she’s fit and blokes fancy her! ;)
Khan is still a candidate for a badguy .The events before the start of the movie are still “canon” so Khan is still out there.
104- Just because he is still technically canon doesn’t mean that he has to be revisted. Maybe in this particular reality the Botany Bay just continues undisturbed into the cosmos, never to be found. Buried alive….. buried alive…..
I dont particularly think he would be a good main story line either , he could be interesting just as any other story could be it would depend on the script , he could also be used as a minor subplot or forgotten about completely, which seeing as the new films are based on a whole new get out clause sorry i meant timelne youll probably never hear of any of the original storylines/planets/cultures as there is no need for them to exist at all.
We’ll just have to wait and seee.
They should bring Nichols back as Gaila’s identical twin sister who Kirk also seduces.
Gaila wont be back. She was on the Farragut which was one of the ships destroyed by Nero before the Enterprise arrived at Vulcan :)
I’d like to see Gaila back. She’s a techie-type character so it might be cute to see her working with Scotty. I took her excitement to mean she was assigned the Enterprise although it’s just as a possible that she’s excited about being called up. Canon wise it can go eitherway as it isn’t an issue resolved in the movie. She could’ve died, she could be on the Enterprise. Personally I think It would be nice if there were a couple of re-occuring supporting roles instead of having everyone other than the main crew die horribly after five minutes.
The Nero stuff is just the usual gossip and rumours that help studios keep a franchise in the public eye until the next one comes along.
Gaila didn’t die. And she wasn’t assigned to the Enterprise. Her “excitement” when Uhura met up with her was because she was on her way to a quick fling before heading up to the ships — mostly because Uhura wasn’t going to be in their room!
So she missed the shuttles, therefore, wasn’t on board a ship to be killed.
And why she wasn’t in Kirk’s commendation scene? Again, check the dorm…
Oh, Gaila. My favorite Orion whore! She and “cupcake” need their own web series!
just let it go if he come back they just recycling they got ideas use em don’t always plan for a trilogy
Shows n Movies get killed in the taffy process
instead of trying to stretch it to for average or bad movie make two good movies
i was never really a star wars fan so this is of the top
G had a small part pretty insignificant
but if they bring her back they are poking holes in the plot
since ALL other ships were destroyed but its all for entertainment
and I’m not gonna complain about seeing Rachel Nichols again
its fresco COOL
Holes? What holes? *If* Gaila does make a reappearance in a sequel, I saw nothing in the current film that would preclude her from doing so. Her fate was very ambiguous. Saying she was on one of the doomed ships is speculation, since we don’t hear which ship she’s on. And as I jokingly pointed out previously, for all we know, she could have been stuck in her dorm during the entire Vulcan incident.
My ultimate point: it wouldn’t be difficult at all to give Gaila an alibi for coming back. No one *knows* what happened to her. This is different than shoving in someone like, say, Captain Robau in a sequel when he clearly met his maker on-screen.
rachel nichols is one of the nicest, real and responsive hot young actresses around. tweet her and most often than not she is going to respond. her twitter page is @RachelNichols1. it is her real twitter.
V’Ger is coming… The Doomsday Machine is coming…. The whale probe from Trek 4 is coming… And Khan is still in the deep freeze floating around out there somewhere… And Cyrano Jones, too!
I say no to Nero(what was the interviewer thinking?!). I wish the character had been developed more in depth and the countdown series Nero is different than the one in the movie. Maybe a spinoff series depicting the 25 years gap. Eric Bana MUST be in the next one though. Not as the villain though as that would be odd.
As for Gaila: she was probably assigned to the USS Farragut as she was quite happy when Uhura was also assigned to the Farragut leading me to infer that she was also assigned to it. We haven’t actually seen her fate and frankly I like the movie focusing more on the main cast.
I would like to see Picard and the TNG crew make an appereance even a voice cameo would be awesome.
As for new villain…
NOT)
Romulan
Klingon
MAYBE)
Andorian
Borg
Best [IMHO])
Rogue Vulcan
Something from the Andromeda Galaxy (entirely new)
Mirror Universe (Need to see the Goatee heh heh)
or The USS Enterprise gains conciousness and builds this skynet with all the other federation ships and the federation has to team up with the Klingons and/or Romulans to battle them (though I don’t know which hate the federation most).
But please no Shatner(or anyone from TOS their time to shine was already).
i just paused at a full shot of the auditorium during kirks promotion and i did in fact see a green lady in the upper level. it could be gaila but i cant tell
Hmmm
There were a number of philosophical flaws in the movie (which I’ve watched a few times and really like).
Nero travelled back in time to gain revenge – logically, Romulus would have still been in existence, since the supernova which destroyed it happened over a hundred years in the future. Even a baddie, theoretically, would be assumed to devote more energy to saving his own planet than making frantic arrangements to take revenge on Spock and Vulcan.
Naturally there are a lot of paradoxical angles, but assuming he was in possession of the red matter then he may have been able to warn Romulus of the approaching danger and the exact timeframe etc etc
I agree, bring back Gaila/Nichols! She actually IS a very nice person in real life!!!