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Full Details On Star Trek Season Two Blu-Ray Set August 5, 2009

by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: DVD/Blu-ray,TOS,TOS Remastered , trackback

The last bit of details on the Fall Star Trek home video titles has been revealed with the full press release for Star Trek Season Two on Blu-ray. The set will have some very interesting bits, including HD versions of TAS and DS9 ‘Tribble’ episodes. Full details below.

 

 

STAR TREK:
THE ORIGINAL SERIES
SEASON TWO BLU-RAY

Seamless Branching Technology! Every Disc is BD Live Enabled!
On Blu-ray September 22

From CBS Home Entertainment And Paramount Home Entertainment

Featuring The Mobile-Blu™ Application Allowing Fans To Download
Exclusive Content and Control Blu-ray Players With Their iPhone

HOLLYWOOD, Calif. – Experience one of the greatest action-adventure sagas like never before when the thrilling second season of STAR TREK®: THE ORIGINAL SERIES blasts onto Blu-ray disc September 22 from CBS Home Entertainment and Paramount Home Entertainment.

The seven-disc set features all 26 sophomore season episodes, each with superior picture and pristine audio, bringing fans closer than ever to the history and characters of STAR TREK®. An entire disc is dedicated to “The Trouble With Tribbles,” arguably the franchise’s most famous episode for its depiction of the cute and fuzzy, though ultimately quite dangerous, creatures.

Starring one of the most endearing casts in television history – led by William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan and Nichelle Nichols – STAR TREK® is a worldwide phenomenon and served as a launching pad for numerous television series and feature films, including this year’s J.J. Abrams-directed mega-blockbuster.

Offering the best of both worlds, the second season Blu-ray release of STAR TREK®: THE ORIGINAL SERIES features Seamless Branching technology that allows fans to toggle between the newly-enhanced and original special effects. In addition, the series is presented in 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, the best sound format possible, with the option to select mono as heard on the series’ original television airings.

Beyond the Tribble-specific bonus disc, this set also includes “Starfleet Access” content on select episodes which provides fans with special pop-up trivia and picture-in-picture video commentaries, rare on-set home movie footage and new special features on BD Live. Also, every disc is Mobile Blu™ enabled. Once downloaded, Mobile Blu™ allows Trekkies to turn their iPhones into Blu-ray player remote controls and download exclusive featurettes for on-the-go entertainment. The definitive release that fans have been waiting for, STAR TREK®: THE ORIGINAL SERIES SEASON TWO BLU-RAY will be available for the suggested retail price of $118.99 US and $136.99 CAN. Exclusive Star Trek Monopoly cards will also be included in early shipments of the Blu-ray set, while supplies last.

STAR TREK®: THE ORIGINAL SERIES SEASON TWO BLU-RAY is a seven disc set presented in the original 4:3 aspect ratio with English 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, English Original 2.0 Mono, Spanish 2.0 Mono and French 2.0 Mono sound. STAR TREK®: THE ORIGINAL SERIES SEASON TWO BLU-RAY is not rated in the U.S. and rated G in Canada. The total running time is approximately 22 hours. The Blu-ray disc breakdown is as follows:

Box Art & pre order



Star Trek Season Two on Blu-ray – 3D view + front and back

[Amazon pre-order: Star Trek The Original Series: Season Two Blu-ray: $72.99]

 

Comments

1. Jim Paul - August 5, 2009

I’m very curious about an HD version of the DS9 episode. Did they do a complete remastering from the original elements or something else?

2. Gary Seven - August 5, 2009

I don’t have a Blue Ray player. Does anyone know if a regular DVD player will be able to play the discs, and also will a regular player be able to “toggle” between the old and new effects?

3. Anthony Lewis - August 5, 2009

Only Blu-Ray players can can play a Blu-Ray disc. A Blu-Ray player can play DVD’s however. You can use a Blu-Ray player without having a HD Television it will work just fine you just won’t get the HD picture.

4. Jason - August 5, 2009

I’m disappointed that there aren’t as many ‘Starfleet Access’ features on this set as there were on season 1. Those were my favorite features by far.

5. Sean4000 - August 5, 2009

Can I just have “The Doomsday Machine” and “Amok Time” please?

6. Harry Ballz - August 5, 2009

What’s next? TOS with Smell-o-rama!! Enjoy the perfume Uhura wore in every episode!

Yikes!

7. rm10019 - August 5, 2009

Already pre-ordered. Looking forward to it! Paramount keep the bonus content coming, it really makes the Bluray release something special.

8. rm10019 - August 5, 2009

Sorry, that should be ‘CBS’ keep up the good work with the bonus content!

9. sean - August 5, 2009

Yeah, I’m curious about the DS9 episode. I can’t remember if they shot in video like TNG or not.

10. RD - August 5, 2009

#1, no more than I. This was discussed at length here:
http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/23/more-details-and-pre-order-for-star-trek-season-two-on-blu-ray/

and here:
http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/14/cbs-paramount-announce-comic-con-tribble-giveaway-promo-for-star-trek-season-two-blu-ray/

It was either originally mastered on high res video, or they went back to the original film elements and re-built it from the ground up.

The last possibility is that they merely up-resed it to HD and it is not true HD.

In any event it is going to be very interesting to see what they did. If this is truly a re-mastered version, I cannot imagine they are not trumpeting this from the mountaintops as further incentive to buy this edition.

11. Sean4000 - August 5, 2009

It was shot on film but scanned and mastered in Standard Definition.

But until now it looks like they went back and remasterd the DS9 ep. The animated episode was probably already in HD from the cleaning up of TAS a few years ago.

12. Balok - August 5, 2009

Seems like they are putting out a great product here. I like how they list some of TOS actors but skip Georgie (must be Shat’s fault!) and Walter…

13. RD - August 5, 2009

#11, yes if you notice Billy Blackburn’s footage is also HD, meaning a transfer of the 8mm or 16mm footage. TAS episode would have also been finished on film. Unless they up-resed the SD content.

Even the box doesn’t mention a thing about DS9 being HD – most peculiar as this is a big deal and might even result in a sale to a DS9 fan who might not otherwise buy the TOS box set.

14. Zaphod - August 5, 2009

Fantastic! I will definitely own this one. Don’t give a rat’s ass about Monopoly cards, so I won’t pre-order; I’m still only on disc 3 of Season 1!

15. Rosario T. Calabria - August 5, 2009

Seamless branching is such a great feature.

Interesting to see that they’ll be presenting episodes of TAS (which I don’t like, but that’s not the point) and DS9 in HD.

16. Julie - August 5, 2009

I have the old regular (non Blu-Ray) DVD sets of TOS and was very disappointed that I could not watch the HD special features. If a Blu-Ray player will play regular DVDs does that mean I would be able to watch the HD stuff?

17. spock - August 5, 2009

I wish they had Starfleet access on more episodes, like DDM.

18. JimJ - August 5, 2009

#16-Blu-Ray players will not play HD-DVD’s. I know because I bought an HD-DVD player when they became obsolete and were dirt cheap, just so I could watch my HD-DVD Season One Star Trek. Now, I just went and bought a Blu-Ray player at Wal-Mart for $98….just so I can get the movie in Blu-Ray. It’s all a bit confusing, at first. HD-DVD players play HD-DVD’s and regular DVD’s. Blu-Ray players play Blu-Ray dvd’s and regular dvd’s, but NOT HD-DVD’s. Whew!

19. Thomas Jensen - August 5, 2009

Happy to see that the DS9 episode is included.

The second season had a different ‘feel’ to it then the first. Many great episodes. It’s the middle season of a great series.

Looking forward to seeing it remastered in HD.

20. Will - August 5, 2009

RE:
” 9. sean – August 5, 2009

Yeah, I’m curious about the DS9 episode. I can’t remember if they shot in video like TNG or not.”

TNG was shot on 35, not video.

21. Mark Aitchison - August 5, 2009

@#18

A blu-ray player will play hd-dvd’s if you were lucky enough to get one of the combo players before they were discontinued. both LG and samsung made models that played both before toshiba pulled the plug on hd-dvd. i realise that you’re talking about standalone blu-ray players, just thought i’d mention the combo players, might be able to find them on ebay or something like that still.

22. Gary Seven - August 5, 2009

One more question…if I may:
What is “seamless branching?”
Does this mean you can go back and forth between the old effects and new effects–in other words, show them back to back, consecutively, to compare them? Or does it mean they have a split screen, where you can see both? What does it mean?
And thanks to #3, Anthony, for your previous answer.

23. Gary Seven - August 5, 2009

#18 Jim J-

I just checked the Walmart site and the cheapest Blu-Ray player is $129. How did you get the $98 price? Thanks.

24. DC - August 5, 2009

:o
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*does that “Peanut Butter Jelly Time” dance*
with HD versions of the TAS and DS9 Tribble episodes, now I’m DEFINITELY gonna get this on release day :D

25. Irishtrekkie - August 5, 2009

hmm i am thinking the way to go is just built a media centre pc and then slap blue-ray drive in , thats my plan anyway

26. Matt Wright - August 5, 2009

#20 — The raw footage was 35mm yes, but it was all edited and composited with VFX on video.

I’m interested to see what they did with the DS9 episode, hopefully it’s proper HD and not an upconvert :)

27. Matt Wright - August 5, 2009

25 — Trust me on this, I’ve been in to home theater PCs since 2003. Doing Blu-ray from your PC is generally more trouble than it’s worth. A decent standalone Blu-ray player is ~$250. You’ll likely spend more than that just trying to make Blu-ray work well on a PC. Proper Blu-ray playback sofware that integrates with Media Center is ~$80, a graphics card that accelerates the codecs is ~$60. The MC remote is about $30. FYI: you need a basic dual-core CPU to really keep things smooth. So don’t think you’ll be repurposing an old PC for the project.

28. The Weary Professor - August 5, 2009

22:

Seamless branching means the effects shots are present on the blu-ray both in the original and remastered versions and you can indeed toggle between them by hitting the angle button on your blu-ray remote control. It’s a very cool feature and I’ve played with it a lot on the season 1 set.

I doubt the DS9 episode will be in HD because the season 1 blu-ray set included many bonus features in regular 480 (standard DVD resolution). Only the TOS episodes and the new bonus features that weren’t on the previous DVD sets are in HD.

The season 1 blu-ray set is one of my most treasured possessions (especially since I got Leonard to sign the cover last week at the NJ con). The episodes have never looked this good before. I know it’s tough in this economy, but if at all possible I sincerely urge anyone who has not yet taken the blu-ray plunge to do so and buy these sets. You won’t be sorry. You’ll fall in love with TOS all over again.

Frank

29. DJT - August 5, 2009

I’m buying this set just for the DS9 episode on HD.

30. captain_neill - August 5, 2009

I am looking forward to this boxset, season 1 was amazing on blu ray and cannotwait to get season 2

29- be great to see DS9 in HD.

Looking forward to this and the TNG movie blu ray set

31. captain_neill - August 6, 2009

Is there an anti TNG vibe in this site? is anyone looking forward to the TNG bluray as well?

I love all five shows, and I am a huge TOS junkie

32. toddk - August 6, 2009

I want TNG on HD as well!

33. Sean4000 - August 6, 2009

I hope that if they did rescan the DS9 episode that they didn’t replace the model work with the TOS-R cgi 1701.

They actually built the 60s models all over again for the episode and they were impressive.

34. Vardonir - August 6, 2009

Oh. Mah. Gawd.
Never though BR’s could have this much features. Without having to add an extra disc ala-DVD. Too bad they’re expensive.
And unavailable. D:

35. Jon B - August 6, 2009

I’m excited for the DS9 episode in HD. If it’s only an upconvert, I’ll be ******. I’m hoping it’s true HD. If it is, it’ll be wonderful. It, along with the re-doing of the effects (DS9 and VOY had some CG effects that only exist in SD) will prove that HD will not be the sole domain of TOS (TNG doesn’t count; it will have movies in HD, but the series is in the same boat as the other spin-offs). I can’t wait to hear if the DS9 episode is true HD. I’ll get this set for TOS season 2 (most of my favorite episodes are on this set) but an HD version of a Trek spinoff episode that a lot of people assume would not occur. Did I mention that:

a.) DS9 is my favorite series

b.) The Tribble episode was one of my favorites.

36. captain_neill - August 6, 2009

Season 2 has some of my fav episodes as well

Hell I am even looking forward to season 3 on blu ray as well

37. DJ Neelix - August 6, 2009

@31 captain_neill
“Is there an anti TNG vibe in this site?”

Unfortunately yes, and if it wasn’t for the great news coverage I would not use this site, because sometimes all the hate for the TNG era shows just makes me sad.

I love all five of them as well and although I would say TOS and ENT are my least favourites of them, they all have a special place :)

The DS9 episode and the TNG movies on HD makes me really excited, just a shame that we in Europe have to wait until November :(

38. Andy Patterson - August 6, 2009

Have first season and Bluray player now. Still haven’t figured out how to do ‘Seamless Branching’ while I watch though.

39. captain_neill - August 6, 2009

DJ neelix

I feel your pain.

I love TOS loads, but I also love the spin offs as well. I grew up loving TNG.

I agree that this site has great news coverage but I am also annoyed at hte hate the TNG era gets, to me it adds to Trek

40. I'm dead Jim - August 6, 2009

“Journal to Babel”??? I hope it’s not written that way on the box.

41. Daoud - August 6, 2009

#40 Sounds like a followup episode to “Trials and Tribble-ations” featuring journalist Jake Sisko on a time-travelling expedition to discover who the “Little Copper Dudes” were! ;)

42. Allen - August 6, 2009

If they say its in HD then its true HD. They have everything they need in 35mm. All they have to do is rescan the film elements and put it all back together. They even have all the time codes. Apparently this process is so easy you could get an entire episode done in a day or two.

As for CGI in it, i would say no. They never did anything for DS9 (not yet anyway) so my guess is that its nothing more than HD version of the original show as filmed.

43. Chadwick - August 6, 2009

#31 Hell Yes I can’t wait for TNG on blu-ray. I also loved all five shows, I thought Enterprise was fantastic and no one has given a good reason why it was bad other then the fact that they did not like it. Enterprise was awesome and I cant wait to see it, TNG, and the rest in HD. After seeing TOS on blu-ray I have fallen in love with it all over again. After watching the terrible cable TV quality and even the lackluster DVD version the HD quality TOS is fantastic, I never though it could look and sound so good.

Why does everyone hate Enterprise? I thought it was fantastic, I liked it better than TOS and VOY. DS9 and TNG are my favs but ENT was freaking great especially the first and fourth seasons.

I say all the FX CG shots need to be redone for TNG, some just look so bad and in season 7 they are using season 1 footage, I could not stand that.

#10 I am sure it is true HD, after watching TOS season 1 I was so impressed, I have never seen TOS like that before. The audio and visual quality was so incredible I was left speechless. After watching TOS on cable and DVD for so many years you can really see the difference, its not a simple upscale, its full HD, and I doubt they would skimp on season two if season one is full HD.

44. Scott Gammans - August 6, 2009

#42: Not correct. CGI was used on DS9 from the very first episode (for Odo’s morphing effect) and was being used extensively for spaceship scenes by the end of the fifth season (most notably for the breathtaking shot of the Defiant joining the Federation fleet at the end of the season finale “A Call to Arms”).

45. raffie - August 6, 2009

lol #42, I guess you don’t understand marketing much. This is one hunderd percent certainly a SD upscale or it would have been very clearly stated that the DS9 episode was re-edited entirely. They don’t just DO that and then not mention it xD

46. RD - August 6, 2009

#42. Allen wrote: All they have to do is rescan the film elements and put it all back together. They even have all the time codes. Apparently this process is so easy you could get an entire episode done in a day or two.

Where did you read that? First, there is nothing quite that simple about it. Second, time codes don’t apply. Third, a day or two? Doubtful. Go back and look at some of the previous discussions I linked to above for more detail on the problems. Or google it. There are some fine forums with some experts on the matter who discuss it at length.

#42. Allen wrote: As for CGI in it, i would say no. They never did anything for DS9 (not yet anyway)

I believe he meant the vfx overlays like phasers which were created in a computer and output to video for compositing with the film elements. Those at a minimum would have had to be replaced.

While the model work was superior to TOS, it may well not have held up to scrutiny in HD, at least to the level presented in the TOS-R CGI. The good news is that almost all of the DS9 Tribbles effects were already created for TOS-R Tribbles – if this is what they did.

I am not convinced of any of this due to the cost involved and lack of press about it. But it makes sense that if any of these TNG era episodes are going to be re-mastered first, it will be the most popular and historic ones. It is generally acknowledged in the industry that Trek will be the most expensive to re-master due to the number of vfx and composited elements. It is hardly Seinfeld, one of the shows held up as an example of the ease and speed with which the re-mastering process can be accomplished, nor does Trek bring in anything like the syndication dollars Seinfeld does.

#47 – Whether the TOS episodes are true HD or not, is NOT in question. It’s whether the TAS Tribbles and DS9 Tribbles episodes are true HD.

47. RM10019 - August 6, 2009

I can safely say the DS9 Ep will no be in true HD (as was the case on the HD-DVD from what I hear), i’m sure it will look great upressed on my PS3 but that’s about it.

For the people confused about the seamless branching, it’s a bit of a misnomer, just hit the ANGLE button on your remote during or just prior to an effect and you can toggle between the old and new shots.

48. TonyD - August 6, 2009

#38 – The only place where seamless branching really applies is during scenes with remastered special effects. When viewing an effects shot (like an Enterprise flyby for example) press the ANGLE button on your BluRay remote control; that should switch the video between the new CG special effect and the old optical version. Hope that helps.

49. Kirk's Girdle - August 6, 2009

RE: #6 “Smell-O-Rama.

I’d wager you’d smell a lot of ham and cheese.

Bada-BING!

50. frederick von fronkensteen - August 6, 2009

#49.. if you were watching Shatner at the time.

51. Izbot - August 6, 2009

“Journal to Babel”??

52. Shatner_Fan_Prime - August 6, 2009

Ham & cheese is AWESOME.

53. Dom - August 6, 2009

The seamless branching claim is certainly not correct. TOS-R uses the multi-angle method, switching between different images with the same sound. seamless branching applies to the likes of the Alien Quadrilogy releases, which switch to outrightly different content.

I’d be very surprised if the DS9 ep was anything more than an uprez. Had they really remastered it from the original negative elements and rendered/rescanned the FX in 1080p, I think there would have been a lot more noise made about it, with Anthony being invited to see the work in progress and so on!

And captain-neill and DJ Neelix, its not that there’s an anti-TNG vibe around here: it’s more that there are a lot of people visiting this site who are Kirk/Spock/McCoy fans first and foremost who only came back to the Trek fold when the new movie was announced! As a result a lot of people’s interests tend to be in the original show. Doesn’t make the other shows any more or less valid, merely that they interest some people less and maybe TNG-era fans aren’t used to having Trek fans around who aren’t interested in their shows!

54. Anthony Pascale - August 6, 2009

I am not sure what this ‘tng hate’ is. This site covers all aspects of star trek from all incarnations. I wish we were reporting on TNG remastered and TNG on blu-ray but that is out of our hand. I find ‘my trek is better than your trek’ arguments to be kind of silly. if you like any trek show, you are a trekkie and welcome here.

But we can only report the news there is to report, and for the last few years there has just been more TOS and Star Trek movie related news with remastered, the movie, and the merchandising.

55. Steve Short - August 6, 2009

Before TNG goes to Blu-ray I hope it gets all new CG special effects like TOS did. If so it might be on TV to help pay for the cost of the effects, that’s what TOS did.

56. Rocket Scientist - August 6, 2009

43. Chadwick

Why does everyone hate Enterprise? I thought it was fantastic, I liked it better than TOS and VOY. DS9 and TNG are my favs but ENT was freaking great especially the first and fourth seasons.

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Enterprise fan here! Didn’t care for it too much until I rented the whole series from NetFlix. After watching it all the way through, I wondered why I didn’t “get it” the first time around. I definitely rank it among my favorite Treks along with TOS and DS9.

57. The Last Maquis - August 6, 2009

It’s “over saturation” TNG was Re-Run Constantly for Decades, as Good as it was Some of the time, all I seem to remember about it’s later seasons was Data, Geordi, Techno-Babble, and Data’s cat.

DS9 is much more Esoteric, and has a Love it, or Leave it Feel, but doesn’t seem as Dated.

How about “The Tholian Web” Episode, is that one Season 3?
if so then Will they make a special Disc for that and the Enterprise episodes
“In a Mirror Darkly” 1 and 2?

58. The Last Maquis - August 6, 2009

……or just Mirror Mirror, oh but then you’d have to get all the DS9 Mirror episodes in there too….. Hmmm…

Alright just Put DS9 on BluRay.

I’ll be in the Badlands.

59. Dom - August 6, 2009

54.

Hey Anthony. Even as someone who doesn’t think TNG is as great as some people make it out to be, I’d be extremely interested to see what they could do with it in an HD revamp. If they released a few of the two-part stories in HD as standalone films, I’d probably even buy them, especially if they took the opportunity to recut and rescore them, a la the new version of the Stargate SG1 pilot! That way the season box sets could have remastered original versions with new FX and there’d also be an incentive for us less interested fans to pick up some of the highlights of the series (and of course for TNG fans to double double dip!)

‘TNG hate’ is a bit strong, I think: there was a time when it was unheard of to criticise anything about TNG, but that time has passed, as people look at it as an archive television show now. It’s old now and inevitably people will look at it as a thing of its time and see it as lacking in some capacities and benefiting in others.

People need to be a little less brittle about these things.

60. Canadianknight - August 6, 2009

#53 – Actually, it is correct, unless I’m totally out to lunch. :)

Seamless branching, as described by Wiki (for those of you who are interested):

Seamless branching is a mechanism used on DVDs and Blu-ray Discs to allow the player to jump to a different scene after finishing one. The most common purpose is to have several versions of a scene within one film, without having to store the entire film on the disc several times.

A popular example is the DVD of The Lion King, where the user can select between the original cinematic version and an extended version. The two versions differ only in one scene (the “morning report”). The DVD player is instructed to play the film normally up to this scene, then jump to the appropriate scene as selected by the user before the commencement of the film, and then jump back to play the rest of the film. The user normally does not notice this jump, hence the word seamless. A larger scale example of the same technique is seen in the 2007 DVD rerelease of Blade Runner in which three different cuts of the film are playable from the same disc. (There aren’t three versions of the movie on the disc… there is one cut with pointers that lead to alternate scenes being inserted)

So… back to TOS on BD. The episodes are only on the disc ONCE. Likely with the newer FX shots. If you prefer the older FX, the player will finish the current live-action scene, and “jump” to the alternate FX track, then back to the original track.

It’s kinda complicated, considering you can just change tracks with a button-press. Even though it uses the “Angle” functionality, I *believe* it’s still considered “seamless branching”. Either way, it IS seamless… and terrific to have both versions available!! :)

61. Dom - August 6, 2009

59. Canadianknight

You’re confusing yourself there. Multi-angle is used for different visuals, seamless branching is there to transition between completely different story content.

Multi-angle allows new FX to ‘cover over’ the original image the same way Spirited Away allows you to watch the film with storyboards while the audio remains the same. Essentially, to simplify it to a ridiculous extent, the episode remains the same, but a new shot is overlaid on the existing scene, the same way, say you have an option to overlay a subtitle on the image.

Seamless branching isn’t just about overlaying new FX shots: it’s about running a film with different scene orders and different content, as Blade Runner and Alien Quadrilogy do.

The equivalent would be giving us the option to watch Where No Man Has Gone Before in the original pilot presentation with the additional scenes and Quinn Martin-style graphics or the broadcast version, which can currently be watched with old or new FX via multi-angle!

62. sean - August 6, 2009

Good to see The Last Maquis still uses random capitalization! :)

63. Canadianknight - August 6, 2009

#61 – Fair enough Dom! I stand corrected! *blush*

I honestly didn’t think anyone used the multi-angle functionality anymore. It was kind of a dud for DVD. I don’t recall seeing it used very much… and I have a 700+ DVD collection. ;)

64. Bill - August 6, 2009

#59

I’m sorry, but that’s not correct.

The reason it is called “seamless branching” is because… it branches.

If Trek were a multi-angle only affair, then two full episodes would be on the disc; one with original effects, one with new effects. Similar to how multiple audio tracks can go on the same program.

But there is no need to do this on TOS since large portions of the video are the same in either version. “Branching” means the disc is programed to “branch” the video content. When the show comes to a point where VFX are used, it “chooses” (based on your preference) which branch to take.

In the case of Star Trek, both branches last the same amount of time and use the same audio track, but they are seperate content nontheless.

And yes, I’ll cite on of many references on this. The complete technical specifications of seamless branching is (among other places) in the “DVD Demystified”. The book itself is filled with opinions, but the specifications are the specifications.

In shorter terms, there are multiple paths your Blu-ray player can take to get from the begining to the end of the program because the program “branches off” and rejoins itself many times.

65. The Original Spock's Brain - August 6, 2009

I haven’t noticed TNG-hating here. Anthony does a great job at covering whatever TNG news is out there (but there’s just not much of it). Though TOS will be the best for me always due to the characters, TNG and DS9 are tied for a close second in my book.

TNG brought Trek back to TV (I remember where I was the night it premiered in 1987). TNG gave us wonderful new characters in the Trek-verse that I am truly grateful for.

66. John from Cincinnati - August 6, 2009

If there is any hate on this site it’s towards TOS, which is my favorite by far. Greatly superior in characters and stories to anything else. The show that launched a franchise.

67. star trackie - August 6, 2009

#31 “Is there an anti TNG vibe in this site?”

Well, I’m certainly not a fan of TNG in the least and found the show to be totally alien and contrary to the TOS universe that I was familiar with…but I don’t believe this site is anti- TNG at all. Like Anthony said, it may seem slanted due to the coverage that comes with a new TOS era themed movie and the merchandising around it, but I see no intentional agenda to gear this site towards TOS….unfortunately! lol

68. Justin Olson - August 6, 2009

Re: Trials And Tribble-ations From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine® (HD)

Right now there is a question as to whether the DS9 episode was truly remastered in HD and not simply an SD upconvert. Jeff Kleist of the Digital Bits is trying to get an answer from Paramount/CBS right now.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=2183036&postcount=6763

69. DJ Neelix - August 6, 2009

@54 Anthony Pascale

“I am not sure what this ‘tng hate’ is. This site covers all aspects of star trek from all incarnations. I wish we were reporting on TNG remastered and TNG on blu-ray but that is out of our hand. I find ‘my trek is better than your trek’ arguments to be kind of silly. if you like any trek show, you are a trekkie and welcome here.

But we can only report the news there is to report, and for the last few years there has just been more TOS and Star Trek movie related news with remastered, the movie, and the merchandising.”

Oh no, I’m not saying that the site itself is by any means promoting this. What I’m talking about is only what’s going on in the comments section. Perhaps I wasn’t really clear about that, sorry!

As I said, the news coverage is excellent and reports everything surrounding Trek, whether it’s TOS, ENT or whatever. That’s what I like about it!

But on the comments section, there is definitely a lot of hate going on, and that’s just a shame, but there are natural reasons for this which previous posters have already explained.

70. Bill - August 6, 2009

@69 DJ Neelix

Hey sir. I haven’t seen it, but I’m sorry you feel that way. I guess I just don’t understand where this popped up from in this particular thread since I didn’t really see any reference to the TNG era before the comment about the TNG hate.

Anyway, as a TOS boy myself I have nothing but love for the 24th Century.

IDIC

71. Prologic9 - August 6, 2009

FYI Digital Bits updated and said the the DS9 episode is just an upconvert from the 480 digital master — as expected.

72. Bill Hunt - August 6, 2009

This hasn’t been officially confirmed with CBS yet – I’m working to do that and I’m sure Anthony will as well. But Mike Okuda got back to me today to say that’s what he believed it was just an upconvert from the 480 digital master, and had it been a full HD rebuild, you’d think he would have been directly involved. In other words, he would know. Other industry sources involved have also unofficially indicated to me today that it’s an upconvert.

73. Dom - August 6, 2009

64. Bill: ‘I’m sorry, but that’s not correct.’

Yes it is.

‘The reason it is called “seamless branching” is because… it branches.’

Exactly and TOS-R doesn’t branch: it simply has multi-angle timed to kick in every so often.

If Trek were a multi-angle only affair, then two full episodes would be on the disc; one with original effects, one with new effects.

Nonsense!

Similar to how multiple audio tracks can go on the same program.

Nonsense!

‘But there is no need to do this on TOS since large portions of the video are the same in either version. “Branching” means the disc is programed to “branch” the video content. When the show comes to a point where VFX are used, it “chooses” (based on your preference) which branch to take.’

No. Watch it on the right machine and you’ll see a multi-angle logo in the corner. Check out the classic Doctor Who DVDs with optional new FX. They’re all multi-angle too. There’s no point in seamless branching for the likes of TOS-R. They’re merely using new images.

‘In the case of Star Trek, both branches last the same amount of time and use the same audio track, but they are seperate content nontheless.’

No, they’re using the multi-angle facility because it’s simple. Some people call that seamless branching, but they’re trying to make it sound more impressive than it is. Indeed, TOS-R could easily have used the multi-angle method on DVD. Loads of Doctor Who DVDs do it.

‘And yes, I’ll cite on of many references on this. The complete technical specifications of seamless branching is (among other places) in the “DVD Demystified”. The book itself is filled with opinions, but the specifications are the specifications.’

Then go back and read it again.

‘In shorter terms, there are multiple paths your Blu-ray player can take to get from the begining to the end of the program because the program “branches off” and rejoins itself many times.’

Yes and DVD does the same. With all due respect, I work with this stuff. You can’t seamlessly branch mid-shot with the angle button. You can merely select which angle you want to look at, which is why the new FX are timed to match the original episode. They’re alternate angles!

74. Dom - August 6, 2009

Also check out restoration-team.co.uk. Very informative site.

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76. Sean4000 - August 6, 2009

I’m pretty sure it’s an upconvert too but an Official word is, well, the official word. lol. We’ll wait and see.

I’m very excited about the truly HD TAS episode. If they cleaned them all like that then a Blu-ray release of TAS is “a distinct possibility” sometime in the future.

77. Bob Tompkins - August 6, 2009

It was 11 or 12 years ago on the old Section 31 website that I suggested updating TOS with new FX- and most everybody pooh-poohed the idea.

Obviously it was a terrible idea *ahem*

Soooooooo, since a DS9 episode has been given the ol’ HD conversion, I again must ask why apparently there are no plans afoot to put TNG onto Hidef- with new FX?

Gold mine, I’d buy for sure, along with DS9.

78. Bob Tompkins - August 6, 2009

Sorry, I missed all the furor over whether DS9 & TAS were truly HD or just upconverted.

It still doesn’t make it a bad idea for TNG.

79. Darrell Kaiser - August 6, 2009

You have $72.99 for the pre-order of the Blu-ray. It’s $84.99 on the site.

80. RD - August 6, 2009

#78. Bob, you’ve also been living under a rock. The possibility of TNG, DS9 & VOY has been hotly debated ever since the TOS-R project was announced. See these recent threads which discuss the problems involved and/or Google “TNG remaster HD”:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/23/more-details-and-pre-order-for-star-trek-season-two-on-blu-ray/

http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/14/cbs-paramount-announce-comic-con-tribble-giveaway-promo-for-star-trek-season-two-blu-ray/

http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/27/cbs-testing-remastering-tng/

81. Bill Hunt - August 6, 2009

Just a quick update: Paramount and CBS have now officially confirmed that it’s upconverted.

82. Sean4000 - August 6, 2009

Cool, thank you Mr. Hunt.

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84. captain_neill - August 7, 2009

54 Anthony

Agreed, as far as I am concerned we are all Trek fans and that is what is important. I just hate it when fans critiicise other fans for not being true fans because they did not like the new movie and vice versa.

I liked the new movie but it was not the best one for me and JJ Abrams changed things. I am still and always be a trek fan no matter what. Just dont think the new movie is the best ever Trek.

How is vegas So much wish I was there this year, I loved the past two cons in vegas

85. Dom - August 7, 2009

84. captain_neill: ‘Agreed, as far as I am concerned we are all Trek fans and that is what is important. I just hate it when fans critiicise other fans for not being true fans because they did not like the new movie and vice versa.’

Funny, the majority of ‘true fan’ remarks I’ve seen on this site have been a stick-in-the-mud minority of cross-era and TNG-era fans attacking people for embracing the new film! TNG’s bound to attract criticism, artistically, because it’s a 20-something-year old show, whose inevitably dated attitudes and storylines are a bit silly or offensive in places these days.

TOS had its share of criticism in the 80s and 90s. It’s now gone past that stage and is viewed as iconic.

Actually, neill, I don’t know why you even started this discussion on a thread about season 2 Blu-rays. What’s your problem with TOS fans that they can’t discuss the new Blu-ray set on this thread without starting a fight out of nowhere? Do you hate us so much that you want to ruin our party?

It’s a TOS-related thread, so deal with it. There’s no Blu-ray been announced for TNG and there’s unlikely to be one announced in the near future.

If TNG-R ever happens, it’ll likely get broadcast first and out of order, given that most people wouldn’t sit through the first two seasons consecutively, so don’t expect any Blu-rays anytime soon.

86. captain_neill - August 7, 2009

I love TOS a lot and I am really looking forward to this box set. DOM I love TOS fans

I am a TOS junkie and will always love it the most but I am also a TNG fan and feel it became a great show in its own right.

By the way I am excited for this blu ray box set, season 1 of TOS is amazing, actually the best box set i bought.

How dare you say that I am not a TOS fan, I love TOS, I just happen to enjoy the spin offs as well.

My fav Trek movie is a TOS movie, The Wrath of Khan

The labelling I am talking about refers to all fandsoms, even Doctor Who has it as well. Between old and new Doctor Who who.

87. captain_neill - August 7, 2009

What I hate about fandom is that apparaently if you dont like the new movie then you are not a true fan.

This is silly.

Must all fans love this movie? Is it a crime to think FC is a better movie than the new one?

Does liking Voyager more than other people make you less a Trek fan?

We are all Trek fans but we all like it differently.

I love TOS and prefer it over the new movie because the originals are the characters.

I do like TOS and I am looking forward to this boxset

I love this site, but the message boards on trek movie are beginning to sicken me. YOu say something wrong and you end up being criticised for not being a true fan.

This is sick

88. captain_neill - August 7, 2009

My TNG rant was based on comments from other boards.

I am really looking to this box set, it is damn annoying that I have to wait till November in the UK.

But I love TOS and my gripes with the new movie where the changes it made to the TOS era, not the TNG era. It changed things regarding the TOS era.

I love TOS and even love watching the third season, cant wait to see season 3 on blu ray

89. Dom - August 7, 2009

86. captain_neill: ‘I love TOS a lot and I am really looking forward to this box set. DOM I love TOS fans’

I don’t! ;) I quite like them most of the time. Then again, my Mum and Dad are TOS fans and I love them. Ah well, hypocrisy makes the world go round.

‘I am a TOS junkie and will always love it the most but I am also a TNG fan and feel it became a great show in its own right.’

And plenty of people and and plenty of people disagree.

‘By the way I am excited for this blu ray box set, season 1 of TOS is amazing, actually the best box set i bought.’

Yes, I like it too.

‘How dare you say that I am not a TOS fan, I love TOS, I just happen to enjoy the spin offs as well.’

I didn’t. Watch your temper!

‘My fav Trek movie is a TOS movie, The Wrath of Khan’

I’m happy for you.

‘The labelling I am talking about refers to all fandsoms, even Doctor Who has it as well. Between old and new Doctor Who who.’

Doctor Who’s a different matter: there are fans of eras and even sub-eras.

87. captain_neill (didn’t we talk recently?)

‘What I hate about fandom is that apparaently if you dont like the new movie then you are not a true fan.’

Only one or two people have said that, not the whole of ‘fandom!’

‘This is silly.’

I hadn’t noticed. ;)

‘Must all fans love this movie?’

Nope.

‘Is it a crime to think FC is a better movie than the new one?’

A crime against good taste perhaps! ;)

‘Does liking Voyager more than other people make you less a Trek fan?’

What’s Voyager? :)

‘We are all Trek fans but we all like it differently.’

Yes, you said.

‘I love TOS and prefer it over the new movie because the originals are the characters.’

That’s not coherent English.

‘I do like TOS and I am looking forward to this boxset’

You said.

‘I love this site, but the message boards on trek movie are beginning to sicken me. YOu say something wrong and you end up being criticised for not being a true fan.’

That’s a paranoid delusion.

‘This is sick’

Or perhaps you are being OTT?

88. captain_neill (Didn’t we just talk?)

‘My TNG rant was based on comments from other boards.’

So what possible relevance can it have here. Take it up on the other boards.

‘I am really looking to this box set,’

You said.

‘it is damn annoying that I have to wait till November in the UK.’

It’s only a couple of months away.

‘But I love TOS and my gripes with the new movie where the changes it made to the TOS era, not the TNG era. It changed things regarding the TOS era.’

YOU ARE NOT A TRUE FAN!!!! (Kidding!)

‘I love TOS and even love watching the third season, cant wait to see season 3 on blu ray’

Me too.

90. captain_neill - August 7, 2009

just wanted to make it clear that I do love it all,

I am looking forward to see Tribbles in HD

91. David B - August 7, 2009

I guess this is the right thread but on Amazon UK they have just set up a page for a 1-10 remastered Box set region 2 DVD and Blu-Ray.

Trekmovie guys anyone know anything?

DVD

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Films-Remastered-Special/dp/B002KKCVXC/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1249650915&sr=1-8

BLU-RAY

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Trek-Remastered-Special-Blu-ray/dp/B002KKCXTE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1249650915&sr=1-7

92. Matt Wright - August 7, 2009

#73 — Actually it is branching, when you decrypt the disc (like I have to, to get screenshots for our reviews here) you can not only see, but also open, individual files from the file system and there are ton of small M2TS files [the Blu-ray video container file format] named with sub-numbers for different scenes in an episode. It clearly makes a jump from one segment to the next depending on the menu setting for old or new effects. They coded the function to use a pre-existing button that most players already have: the “angle” button.

93. Matt Wright - August 7, 2009

#91 — Yep that’s been expected for some time, a giant boxed set of every Trek movie.

94. Matt Wright - August 7, 2009

#88 — If it helps, the UK got the TOS movies boxed sets before the US, and TOS Season 1 was released 1 day earlier then here in the US. So maybe Paramount is taking turns with the releases as to who gets them first?

95. Dom - August 7, 2009

92. Matt Wright

Fascinating. Sounds like we’ve all been confusing each other. Of course the discs branch, but it’s not full-scale ‘Seamless Branching’ used to create entirely different versions of films.

Surely it’s just overlaying the alternate images for that moment as a different image (a la the Doctor Who discs) via the multi-angle function (which is, naturally, a type of branching but not ‘Seamless Branching’.

Seamless Branching is when they’re diverting to entirely separate content – audio, audio commentaries, video layers and so on – in chunks the way they do with Blade Runner, Alien Quadrilogy and the like.

It would be a waste of time to encode all that material as separate scenes. Best bet is to look at the Doctor Who Restoration Team Website because I’m not explaining myself clearly enough.

96. David B - August 7, 2009

I found a picture of the region 2 DVD set 1-10

Artwork subject to change, although they should CHANGE the Enterprise to the FILM model not the TV model.

Is this a hologram or what?

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/11416898/Star-Trek-Films-I-X-Remastered-Special-Edition-Box-Set/Product.html

97. Dr. Image - August 7, 2009

DS9 in HD? That alone’s worth picking up the set…. and a player….. wonder if anyone’s offering a “phaser remote?”
(Yeah. Like I’ve ever used the one that came with that fkg Toshiba…)

98. Matt Wright - August 7, 2009

95 — Both are uses of seamless branching. I fail to see the difference between what say Blade Runner did and what TOS does. The only difference is that BR is a whole movie while TOS does it per episode.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamless_branching
“The DVD player is instructed to play the film normally up to this scene, then jump to the appropriate scene as selected by the user before the commencement of the film, and then jump back to play the rest of the film.”

This is exactly what the TOS seasons do. Like I said, there are different files of the scenes of a given episode that it jumps between on the disc. The episode is chopped up into multiple files. It continues along the path of the normal live action and then when a scene with effects is encountered the Java coding makes a choice about which file to play based on the preference you chose in the menu.

It is NOT an angle. What is contained in the secondary stream (like an angle in a DVD) of the video is the PiP data (Starfleet Access function). Again, I verified this myself by opening the different raw video files using Media Player Classic Home Cinema while I had the discs decrypted using my PC for the Season 1 review.

99. DJ Neelix - August 7, 2009

@ captain_neill:
Very well said! I think Gene would have been proud :)

@89 Dom:
Wow, your post is one of the most arrogant ones I’ve read on this board… ever. You are showing exactly the kind of intolerance that captain_neill has brought up. It’s just sad that you carry around so much hate, I think.

A real shame (though expected) that the DS9 ep wasn’t in HD =/

100. The Weary Professor - August 7, 2009

88-present:

Although I firmly believe in freedom of speech and the IDIC ideal, what say everyone agrees to keep things civil and peaceful? The site’s webmaster Anthony is probably busy enough working for all of us in Vegas this week without having to worry about flame-wars breaking out.

So in this August of the Woodstock 40th anniversary can we all just have some peace and love, man?

101. Anthony Thompson - August 7, 2009

What I’d like to have seen on these is the content created for the Sci Fi Channel’s airing of these episodes about 10 years ago, with intros by Shatner and Nimoy, various episode-specific interviews with the cast, etc. Why hasn’t that great material been made available?

102. capnjake - August 7, 2009

So awesome as i have said on other threads involving season 2 of trek on bluray. I was hopeing we would get trials and tribulations as a bonus feature on this set. Nice to see it is being included and is in HD at that. very exciting.
will be nice to see the crew of DS9 in HD (even if its just one episode)

103. Bill - August 7, 2009

@Anthony Thompson – 101

Amen to that! I’ve been wanting these for a very very long time.

104. Magic_Al - August 7, 2009

I would wager the first Berman-era episode in HD would be a simpler one than “Trials and Tribble-ations”. The live-action composites would make it one of the most expensive episodes to do compared to one that just cuts between live action and space and just has some phasers and transporters here and there.

Although… a way to cheat it would be to claim artistic license in leaving all the 1960s/23rd Century-style shots in SD and only have the 1990s/24th Century-style shots in HD, sort of a Wizard of Oz thing. Have CBS Digital reuse their Trouble with Tribbles Remastered assets to replace the model photography, and there you go, quick and dirty DS9 HD.

105. Andreas -horn- Hornig - August 8, 2009

hi, I’m a huge DS9 fan and would really like to see the complete series in hd, but I think that will merely happen, because they did a lot of stuff directly on video. so this special epsidoe will be one of few examples how to transfer som episodes into real hd.

and Star Trek: TAS was already broadcasted in hd on AnixeHD in Germany in 2007, because Anixe directly does transfor from film for their programmes.
http://www.hdtvtotal.com/module-pagesetter-viewpub-tid-1-pid-1037.html
unfortunally the aspect ratio is 4:3 and AnixeHD cropped it into 16:9 (that HD aspect ratio) and so some details are missing :(. but it looks quite good for an animation and for an animation of that age :).

greets, Andreas

106. raffie - August 9, 2009

#104 Yes it remains an interesting issue, and the more I think about it the more I see what a monumental underatking it would be to have to go back to the originnally filmed footage and completely redo every episode of TNG/DS9/VOY. I mean, the TOS remastering project almost looks like childsplay compared and it does make me wonderf if we will EVER see a great show like TNG in HiDef.

107. RD - August 9, 2009

#106 – It WILL happen. Just a matter of time. Other less complex shows like Seinfeld have already done it. More than Likely CBS will wait until the costs go down and profits begin to fall from the lack of demand for syndicated SD programming. If they don’t remaster the series, they might as well throw it all away to save storage costs for all the profit it will earn them over the next 40 years.

FYI, the only difference between the TOS-R and TNG shows, is that in addition to restoring the footage it must be re-edited. Some of the vfx shots will have to be re-composited as well. It may actually save costs and look better to CGI all the vfx rather than re-assemble and re-composite all the model footage. If anything the re-editing is child’s play, patient, pain-staking child’s-play, but a relatively simple conforming process none-the-less.

108. Matt Wright - August 9, 2009

107 — You realize of course the flaw in your example of Seinfeld is that it required zero visual effects, so it was just a matter of rescanning the 35mm film and regenerating the title text/graphics.

109. RD - August 9, 2009

#108, my example is not flawed. I was very clear that Seinfeld was a “less complex” show. TNG & Seinfeld are no different except that TNG requires rescanning and compositing of numerous elements whereas Seinfeld likely required no compositing at all, plus some limited CGI fx. SInce CBS is already prepared for CGI exteriors with Trek, I would expect almost all compositing to be replaced with more updated CGI, which will also likely be cheaper, but either way, preserve the investment for the future.

There are three obstacles:
1) money – as it will cost considerably more than Seinfeld
2) time – it will take longer to do and to pay for itself (Seinfeld allegedly took between 4-12 months to re-conform the negatives)
3) TNG may not have kept as copious notes to make re-conforming the negatives quicker, which could result in a much more expensive and time-consuming eye-balling process of matching edits.

Since CBS has been shopping the project to various post houses and have conducted some tests, we know they are interested in doing it. It is merely a matter of when. Like Seinfeld to Sony, the TNG era shows are equally as valuable to CBS.

I suspect CBS is going to take a good long look at the purchases of the 4 Blu Ray TNG films over the next few months and the holidays. If the numbers are sufficiently high, I would expect CBS to at least start the process in some way.

110. Sean4000 - August 9, 2009

God I hope they give the job to EdenFX. Their work on These Are the Voyages was astounding!

111. The Weary Professor - August 10, 2009

My youngest daughter is at cheerleading practice, so I might as well do my own cheer–Hooray for the job CBS did on the Season 1 Blu-Ray set, which I’m now watching through for the 2nd time. As I said someplace around message 28, the classic show has never looked this good. It really is like seeing it for the first time. I cannot wait for the Season 2 set to come out.

By the way, it still seems strange to an old-timer like me to say CBS while refering to NBC’s Star Trek.

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