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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
		<link>http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/05/great-links-star-trek-vs-everyone-else-edition/comment-page-2/#comment-2100287</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>49

Sorry, need to see the full list</description>
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<p>Sorry, need to see the full list</p>
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		<title>By: Mammootty&#8217;s Malayalam Blog &#124; kerala Click BLOG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mammootty&#8217;s Malayalam Blog &#124; kerala Click BLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spock's Uncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spock's Uncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The continued debate about Trek vs. Wars is over blown.   They are such different products.  Wars is a Fantasy product, ptiched predominantly at younger kids (saw the first movie when I was 12).  It&#039;s a great franchise, but wholly different from Trek.  It is not based on extrapolated science, but whimsy, which is good, and enjoyable.  It has no relation to &quot;our&#039; human condition.  It belongs unto itself.  Fans who are devoted to Wars tend to be more fanciful, more artistic, less pragmatic, less realist.

Trek is a forward look at THIS universe, and a paradigm to explore the current human condition.  In Trek, we want to see the specs on our beloved starships because at some point we expect them to WORK.  In Wars, they are pretty, daring, even mindblowing designs, but we have no need for blueprints--they are fantasy.  Never intended to function in this world.  

The Enterprise should make sense, even if the science takes extraordinary leaps, it should still follow the understood science of the day, incorporated with the &quot;what might be possible&quot; science of the future.  That&#039;s why so many engineers, astronauts, military people are attracted to Trek.  It represents the best of what is possible in THIS universe, within US.  

Wars represents a complete departure from the &quot;real&quot; into realms of unreal.  It is escapism.  Trek is grounded in things we know, touch, see... That is one area where Abrams movie really worked.

If something familiar were ever to appear in a Wars product, it would be completely out of place.  Trek&#039;s architecture is constructed on the foundation of reality.

Both are great, enjoyable story telling platforms, but the only place they &quot;converge&quot; is that some of both stories take place in outer space.  

A person can enjoy one franchise more than the other, but they are inherently so different, one can&#039;t be better than the other.  Just good (or bad) in different, unrelated way.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continued debate about Trek vs. Wars is over blown.   They are such different products.  Wars is a Fantasy product, ptiched predominantly at younger kids (saw the first movie when I was 12).  It&#8217;s a great franchise, but wholly different from Trek.  It is not based on extrapolated science, but whimsy, which is good, and enjoyable.  It has no relation to &#8220;our&#8217; human condition.  It belongs unto itself.  Fans who are devoted to Wars tend to be more fanciful, more artistic, less pragmatic, less realist.</p>
<p>Trek is a forward look at THIS universe, and a paradigm to explore the current human condition.  In Trek, we want to see the specs on our beloved starships because at some point we expect them to WORK.  In Wars, they are pretty, daring, even mindblowing designs, but we have no need for blueprints&#8211;they are fantasy.  Never intended to function in this world.  </p>
<p>The Enterprise should make sense, even if the science takes extraordinary leaps, it should still follow the understood science of the day, incorporated with the &#8220;what might be possible&#8221; science of the future.  That&#8217;s why so many engineers, astronauts, military people are attracted to Trek.  It represents the best of what is possible in THIS universe, within US.  </p>
<p>Wars represents a complete departure from the &#8220;real&#8221; into realms of unreal.  It is escapism.  Trek is grounded in things we know, touch, see&#8230; That is one area where Abrams movie really worked.</p>
<p>If something familiar were ever to appear in a Wars product, it would be completely out of place.  Trek&#8217;s architecture is constructed on the foundation of reality.</p>
<p>Both are great, enjoyable story telling platforms, but the only place they &#8220;converge&#8221; is that some of both stories take place in outer space.  </p>
<p>A person can enjoy one franchise more than the other, but they are inherently so different, one can&#8217;t be better than the other.  Just good (or bad) in different, unrelated way.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: T'Cal</title>
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		<dc:creator>T'Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Wars is a cute little franchise. No, really. It&#039;s nice. Don&#039;t let anybody tell you otherwise. Be proud, little soldier. Size doesn&#039;t matter I hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Wars is a cute little franchise. No, really. It&#8217;s nice. Don&#8217;t let anybody tell you otherwise. Be proud, little soldier. Size doesn&#8217;t matter I hear.</p>
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		<title>By: garen</title>
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		<dc:creator>garen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to compare...

i grew up a Wars fan.  But back then  it was only about 7 hours of fun.  If only the original trilogy existed...then to me...Star Wars would be batting .1000.  (yes, even with the ewoks in ROTJ)  But Star Wars...as a brand...has become way too diluted with crap in recent years.  I re-watched the prequel trilogy last week...and though it was a little better than i remember (because i&#039;ve personally been hard on it over the years) it still was not great by any measure.  The comes the Clone Wars movie and the clone wars TV show.  I have not watched either of these.  I dont want to experience more disappointment.  I havent mentioned the old ewoks movies...or the holiday special.  But the point is: Star Wars has more bad, silly, cringe-worthy stuff than good stuff.

While Star Trek certainly isnt batting .1000 either....i feel that the overall quality and watchability of Star Trek as an entire product has surpassed Star Wars on the whole.

To me...star wars is  great adventure that fills me with warm feeling when i look BACK.  Star Trek fills me with wonder as i look FOWARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to compare&#8230;</p>
<p>i grew up a Wars fan.  But back then  it was only about 7 hours of fun.  If only the original trilogy existed&#8230;then to me&#8230;Star Wars would be batting .1000.  (yes, even with the ewoks in ROTJ)  But Star Wars&#8230;as a brand&#8230;has become way too diluted with crap in recent years.  I re-watched the prequel trilogy last week&#8230;and though it was a little better than i remember (because i&#8217;ve personally been hard on it over the years) it still was not great by any measure.  The comes the Clone Wars movie and the clone wars TV show.  I have not watched either of these.  I dont want to experience more disappointment.  I havent mentioned the old ewoks movies&#8230;or the holiday special.  But the point is: Star Wars has more bad, silly, cringe-worthy stuff than good stuff.</p>
<p>While Star Trek certainly isnt batting .1000 either&#8230;.i feel that the overall quality and watchability of Star Trek as an entire product has surpassed Star Wars on the whole.</p>
<p>To me&#8230;star wars is  great adventure that fills me with warm feeling when i look BACK.  Star Trek fills me with wonder as i look FOWARD.</p>
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		<title>By: The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #9. captain_neill:

&quot;...annoyed RoboCop was not in there.&quot;

Yes it was, it&#039;s #24.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #9. captain_neill:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;annoyed RoboCop was not in there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it was, it&#8217;s #24.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorg Sacul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorg Sacul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wool-gabardine clad dorks against plastic-clad dorks.  Ah, the hilarious irony of it all! Both sides claim superiority, both sides are viewed as dorks by the rest of society.

I don&#039;t say this out of cruelty, as I enjoy and love both universes and do costuming in both. It&#039;s just so damn funny, watching the one-upmanship and oh-yeahs.

And yes. TOS miniskirts rule over Slave Leias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wool-gabardine clad dorks against plastic-clad dorks.  Ah, the hilarious irony of it all! Both sides claim superiority, both sides are viewed as dorks by the rest of society.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t say this out of cruelty, as I enjoy and love both universes and do costuming in both. It&#8217;s just so damn funny, watching the one-upmanship and oh-yeahs.</p>
<p>And yes. TOS miniskirts rule over Slave Leias.</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30 garen: I think the faces of the two... err, lifeforms of not yet determined sex, are, let&#039;s say: plain, but not  masculine. Maybe that&#039;s fooling you. But a certain indeterminacy remains, I admit it...

32: First of all, I&#039;m a geek and not a nerd. Remember that! 
Second, who&#039;s drooling here? I only said I *like* the girls (now I would add: if they are girls). That&#039;s because I like TOS miniskirts. Had I been drooling I had been posting &#039;I find them hot&#039; which I didn&#039;t post.
Thirdly, what&#039;s with all that Nerds vs Cool Kids crap out of American highschools, anyway? Please drop it, at least as soon as you&#039;re out of school!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 garen: I think the faces of the two&#8230; err, lifeforms of not yet determined sex, are, let&#8217;s say: plain, but not  masculine. Maybe that&#8217;s fooling you. But a certain indeterminacy remains, I admit it&#8230;</p>
<p>32: First of all, I&#8217;m a geek and not a nerd. Remember that!<br />
Second, who&#8217;s drooling here? I only said I *like* the girls (now I would add: if they are girls). That&#8217;s because I like TOS miniskirts. Had I been drooling I had been posting &#8216;I find them hot&#8217; which I didn&#8217;t post.<br />
Thirdly, what&#8217;s with all that Nerds vs Cool Kids crap out of American highschools, anyway? Please drop it, at least as soon as you&#8217;re out of school!</p>
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		<title>By: captain_neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trek is much betterthan Wars

Star Trek is superior</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trek is much betterthan Wars</p>
<p>Star Trek is superior</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre De Boul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre De Boul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My feelings are, as usual; I prefer Star trek for great justice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feelings are, as usual; I prefer Star trek for great justice&#8230;</p>
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