Twenty years from now, when you pull out your oh-so-beloved Next Generation Holographic Discs and rewatch them, you’ll think to yourself, “Why did I ever like this sterile, self-indulgent crap?” Then you’ll have to go watch some RDM Battlestar Galactica to get the bad taste out of your mouth, and the rest of us will just laugh and say, “We told you so!”

You see: I can throw that stupid, angry bile right back at you and what does it solve? Nothing. It belongs on those nasty ‘I hate GINO forums.’ If humans end up like those in TNG, bring on the apocalypse today!

107. Thorny: ‘I’m starting to think you and Daoud were actually watching Stargate Atlantis, because I’m baffled how anyone could watch RDM’s Galactica and not notice that it was about the bleakest show to ever hit the airwaves. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the show (somewhat) especially the first season, but holy crow… that show was relentlessly downbeat.’

I know it was. I loved every bleak minute of it. It was relentlessly gripping with characters I cared about and could relate to. More than that, my loyalties were thrown all over the shop because one minute I’d find myself rooting for Roslin and Adama, the next I’d be supporting Gaius Baltar against them. That was the beauty of the show.

People might like all the sci-fi clichés of other shows: y’know, characters enunciating their lines in a way that indicates they know they’re VERY IMPORTANT even though they don’t know what they mean, dreary, yet cliched, self-important sonic wallpaper incidental music, token ‘quirky’ alien character and humans who act exactly according to their character outline as set up in the show bible.

For me, nu-BSG was the sci-fi show I’d waited my whole life for. A show where people live in big tin cans, where a hull breach will suck them into the vacuum of space and random death can strike at any moment.

BSG, made by the TNG team’s lone original Star Trek fan, had the human race surviving against terrible odds and ultimately, for all the terrible things that happened, making peace with their enemies and co-existing with them, ultimately being willing to wipe out their entire history and civilisation in the hope of building something new as part of the hybrid human/Cylon/primate race.

I found the end of Galactica breathtaking and upbeat. Very old-school Star Trek. Like James Kirk, they turned death into a fighting chance to live.

Yes. Bleak, bleaker, and bleakest. I’m starting to think you and Daoud were actually watching Stargate Atlantis, because I’m baffled how anyone could watch RDM’s Galactica and not notice that it was about the bleakest show to ever hit the airwaves. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the show (somewhat) especially the first season, but holy crow… that show was relentlessly downbeat.

That’s just . . . garbage! Sorry, but did you even watch the new show the whole way through?

‘Those are the only choices we get? Ridiculous camp and cheesy dialogue or relentlessly hopeless and characters I wouldn’t trust to give me the time of day?’

No, because both those descriptions are gross mischaracterisations of the two shows.

Avatar. Hmm… we’ll see.

Still have not seen Moon. Was it released anywhere??

“Laura & Bill didn’t give you reason to root?”

Root? No, although they were the two best characters on the show.

“And I’ve seen all episodes of both *when they aired*.”

So did I. You’re not the only Over 40 around here. :-)

“But don’t watch 13 eps of nBSG and claim to be definitive about anything”

False assumption.

“If Laura & Bill’s romance, and even that of Saul and Ellen, both ending maturely and beautifully…. is what you call gloom and doom”

Riiiight. The last ten minutes of the series make up for four years of relentlessly bleak drama.

“… all I can say is… well, put in your Disney tapes and enjoy Muffy The Daggit.”

Those are the only choices we get? Ridiculous camp and cheesy dialogue or relentlessly hopeless and characters I wouldn’t trust to give me the time of day? I hope Singer finds a middle ground.

Also, on “Avatar”… James Cameron’s story is original, it’s not based on the anime “Avatar a/k/a The Last Airbender”. Different like night and day. Cameron uses the term avatar correctly, to describe an astral being under the control of a god, or in this case, a human on a space station in orbit around a world where human’s can’t go, but their genetically created half-human half-Pandoran bodies can be “remotely controlled”.

As far “Avatar”, does anyone even remember who James Cameron is anymore? He’s come out of hiding to make a movie out of a bad Anime show? Alrighty then…

Sorry be the bringer of bad news, but you’re living up to the cliché and stating opinon as fact. There’s no evidence that ‘most of oBSG fans really don’t like nBSG’, beyond a few extremist web forums that are at best irrelevant and at worst a mild irritation.

‘Have you ever seen the TOS?’

Yes, more than once. Same goes for BSG1980. It was fun.

‘Except for some names not a single character of TOS resembles the re-imagined ones; even the plot barely has any resemblances.’

Sorry, but you couldn’t be more wrong.

‘The original was about overcome the difficulties of a holocaust and hope, the new I still don’t know what was about, the new characters goal seemed only be who could be more obnoxious and best back stabber.’

Sorry, but you’re completely misinformed.

‘I actually saw the pilot and first season of nBSG and don’t hate it, I simply ignore it like I do to BSG 1980.’

And that’s why you’re wrong. You’re basing your argument on a show you haven’t watched. It’s all there: the Pegasus, hope amidst unthinkable genocide, the human Cylons, Starbuck’s ultimate intended fate . . . so you consider your opinion of a completed series valid when you never got past the first 13-episode season, thus missing the subsequent 61!

‘About the new movie probably will not resemble much the 1978 version, but if the characters minimally make sense and the plot is not a mess like was nBSG one I’m willing to give it a chance.’

As someone who has watched a miniseries and 13 nBSG eps, clearly you’d know plenty about the critically-acclaimed recent show’s plots in order to make that judgement! ;)