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Star Trek Movie Make-up Secrets Revealed (including Klingons!) October 6, 2009

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As we reported in our profile earlier this year, JJ Abrams applied his ‘make it real’ philosophy to the new Star Trek movie right down to the make-up, looking to Barney Burman and the wizards at Proteus to ‘pepper’ the movie with realistic looking aliens. Now a newly available in-depth look at the make-up reveals more details and never seen before images, including the Klingons.


 

Making up the new Star Trek
Today UK Magazine SciFi Now is kicking off a three-part special looking at the make-up of the Star Trek movie, including interviews with Burman and his team. In the profile, Burman reveals how many aliens were created for a scene that was cut from the movie:

One or two aliens were to shoot before Christmas of ’07 but everything else was set to work in March of ’08 in a ‘Market place’ scene on a desert planet, so most of our designs were geared toward that kind of atmosphere. Then came the big surprise. We were close to the beginning of principal photography when J.J. informed me that the desert marketplace scene was now going to be a bunker with only one alien in the snow, and all the other alien designs would have to be revisited and peppered throughout the film.


Barney Burman with his creations

Another scene that was cut from the film was the Rura Penthe prison. Burman and his team put a lot of time into developing new Klingons for JJ Abrams film, but they ended up on the cutting room floor. They were spotted briefly in a couple of the Star Trek trailers and will appear in the upcoming DVD and Bl-ray releases, but the article at SFN gives you a good close-up on the Klingon make-up.


Klingon close-up

Read the full article at SFN for more details and to see a gallery of images in high resolution.


JJ Abrams gives direction to one of his aliens (played by Jeff Chase)

 

Comments

1. I'm dead Jim - October 6, 2009

Finally, new behind the scenes stuff!!!! Sweet!!!!!!!!!

2. Steve Pinsent - October 6, 2009

Those Klingons look great…. actually scary…. hopefully we’ll get to see them next time around…

3. Drew - October 6, 2009

Great to see the creativity.

4. freezejeans - October 6, 2009

Awesome, loved the practical effects and make-up in the film. Hope to see even more in the next one!

5. Daniel Q - October 6, 2009

The Klingons look like Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

6. S. John Ross - October 6, 2009

I’m not a fan of the helmets (and I agree with #5 and find it distracting) but the glimpses of Klingon are very effective, menacing and aggressive.

7. Jason Sputnik - October 6, 2009

Wow – that’s a bit more like it! By the end of the Next Generation the Klingons (Worf included) had become a joke – a load of loud-mouthed buffoons impossible to take seriously. This one looks genuinely menacing – hope we get to see more of them next time out.

8. I'm dead Jim - October 6, 2009

After looking at the hi-res shots on the article, I am even more impressed with the make-up, especially the Kilngon. The skin quality is incredible and I agree… this looks like one bad ass Klingon!

9. Gorn Captain - October 6, 2009

In the top center of the pic with all the designs, is that a Gorn? :) Looks like the salt vampire thing is there too

And the klingons look cool

10. Captain Pike - October 6, 2009

I like that they actually managed to come up with a helmet that the Klingons could wear. It doesn’t look like Shredder at all. More Viking/Anglo-Saxon warrior.

11. Petitspock - October 6, 2009

I love the helmet. I particularly like the stylized forehead ridge. The Klingon equivalent of stylized chest muscles on a Roman breastplate.

12. Imrahil - October 6, 2009

#5 – Haha, nice.

13. Jason - October 6, 2009

The Klingon looks awesome. Canonically it could fit too since we can assume there’s a genetically altered human-like Klingon under there.
Klingons being the way they are, it would make a lot more sense for them to hide their new look with scary armour than prance around looking like humans.

Well that’s just my thoughts on it anyway.

14. The Original Spock's Brain - October 6, 2009

I dig the Kirk n Spock babies! Hah!

15. SupremeDalekOnTheBridge - October 6, 2009

Is that two baby Kirk’s I see in front of the Keenser prostehethic?!

I think so!

*lauhs hysterically*

16. Spaceboy - October 6, 2009

Top/center in the shot of the group of masks…am I seeing a Gorn?

17. The Original Spock's Brain - October 6, 2009

9. Gorn Captain – “In the top center of the pic with all the designs, is that a Gorn? ”

I think ur right awesome.

18. Sybok's Secret Brother - October 6, 2009

Those Klingons Kick Ass!!!

19. Jeyl - October 6, 2009

Hopefully next time if they make new aliens they won’t look like fecal matter like the long face alien from the bar. That thing makes me sick every time I look at it.

20. Third Remata'Klan - October 6, 2009

I simultaneously really liked the alien makeup for the new movie, while missing the touch of Michael Westmore.

The makeup looked good overall (and I especially loved the Romulan tattoos, which I guess was probably a different department from the prosthetics…?), but I was saddened that they didn’t get Westmore to collaborate.

As for the Klingons…I love the Shredder comparison! :D
But I also agree that helmet looks pretty great.

21. dmduncan - October 6, 2009

Way to go on the Klingons AND the Gorn. Yes, I think I would like to see a Federation-Klingon War outbreak movie with THOSE Klingons as the adversaries. Leave the TNG Klingons in the dust, please.

22. John from Cincinnati - October 6, 2009

JJ cut the rura penthe scenes because he said it detracted from the flow of the movie, but now we have to access the Blu ray menu, select deleted scenes to watch it, like that doesn’t detract from watching the movie??? Why no extended edition?

23. John from Cincinnati - October 6, 2009

Is that a Talosian, second row, third from the right?

24. somethoughts - October 6, 2009

#22

I agree, there should be a extended versions for the trekkies/folks willing to accept villains capturing villains. I would pay another $20 to see it in the cinemas as the movie was written/shot. Still looking forward to the Blu Ray though.

25. VZX - October 6, 2009

I am also a big fan of that Klingon design with the helmet. I hope that any future Klingons in Abrams’ movies will always have those helmets….it’d be cool…

26. VZX - October 6, 2009

Is that a tail next to the “Gorn” head? Reminds me of Whiplash from Masters of the Universe.

27. No Khan - October 6, 2009

I like the new direction. It would be cool to see Klingons with short hair & a uniform similar to TOS. I don’t want these guys looking all the same with Viking hair cuts & armor plates that aren’t functional in some situations. The Klingon look & how they acted got so stale. They became a bunch of Suicidal Kamikaze Neanderthals. I started to have trouble seeing how they could get it together enough to have space travel being such barbarians.

28. RedShark - October 6, 2009

#27: I was just gonna say that…but I hadn’t thought of such an awesome description. Suicidal Kamikaze Neanderthals, indeed. More like a bunch of whiny babies than an army of fearsome honor-bound warriors. And I wonder how their population can possibly increase when just about every insult merits a fight to the death. I’d like to see some Klingons more like Samurai than Vikings, in control of themselves but able to kill you without a moment’s hesitation, more like Worf I suppose. I see less of a berserk killing machine/whining overdramatic suicidal emo with a really big pointy thing in him than in most Klingons from TNG or DS9.

29. Balok - October 6, 2009

Ha, maybe they cut the Klingon story-line to minimize the amount of groaning from TOS old-timers like me. It will be interesting to see how much Klingon footage they really had, including any SFX space battle scenes…

30. maspill - October 6, 2009

Those helmets are a good idea and a good way to get around the issue of TOS or TNG foreheads clever!

31. Frederick - October 6, 2009

I see a nod to the Salt vampire up on the left!

32. Check the Circuit! - October 6, 2009

I liked how light could be seen through the the edges of Vulcan ears….like real flesh and not rubber. Even had noticable blood vessels. Keepin’ it real!!

33. Tanner Waterbury - October 6, 2009

Wow, those Neanderthals- erm I mean Klingons look AWESOME! They actually seem to look a bit like Cavemen to me.

34. Petitspock - October 6, 2009

From a production standpoint, the helmet is a good move. They can probably make more of them faster, since they don’t need to make each one unique or fit it to an actor’s head like they would a prosthetic. That means cheaper klingons, which means more klingons. The fact that they’re uniform means they can use a computer to turn 20 Klingon extras into 500 or a 1000 klingon extras ah la Lord of the Rings. The new Kirk could have a klingon battle royal in his future.

35. Pete359 - October 6, 2009

Everything looks very cool but would it have killed them to have one Andorian? Or a Tellarite?

36. Petitspock - October 6, 2009

They always avoid those don’t they?

37. AJ - October 6, 2009

32:

Only problem with the Vulcan ears was that the blood vessels were Jeremy Kogan’s, and showed up with a reddish tint while he had green blood on his lip.

38. Colonel West - October 6, 2009

@35:

aye, not a single sign of blue skin or antennae anywhere in the film, even in the starfleet academy/ hearing scenes. it seems they went out of their way to not show any of the more well known races in the background, still it’s a minor peeve that i hope the guys will remember for the next one.

great to see some nods to TOS in the prosthetics though all the same!

39. Gorn Captain - October 6, 2009

#34: IIRC, the Romulan helmets on TOS served the same purpose. And they got recycled into Vulcan helmets for Amok Time.

And that sure does look like a Gorn mask! :)

It’s funny how history repeats itself. TMP had a lot of exotic aliens end up on the cutting room floor as well.

40. Viking - October 6, 2009

#9 Gorn Captain – far upper left row – Ferengi? 2nd row, right side – Tholian and Talosian?

41. TD - October 6, 2009

too cool

42. dmduncan - October 6, 2009

I just hope, if they do go for a big Klingon presence in the sequel, that they maintain the going for reality philosophy, which means not returning to the one dimensional Klingons who all dress the same from TNG.

Let’s get a hint of the stratification of Klingon society. Let’s see some nerdy scientist Klingons who serve the powerful warrior and political castes. Let’s see a humorous Klingon character who does not buy into the warrior culture thing. Cast Steve Buscemi in the role and make him a fan of Earth novels, who speaks English and who longs to be far way from the Empire.

I would like to see 3 dimensional Klingons. All Nazis were German, but not all Germans were Nazis. But I also want to see the warrior caste Klingons written like interstellar Mongols swallowing up starsystems, and yes, at least give shadowy hints that they do really bad things to people who oppose them.

I’m really sick of the all snarl, no bite Klingons.

43. Will_H - October 6, 2009

The Klingons look cool, but it doesnt work for me. We already know what Klingons look like, and from what I can tell that only touches on it. As for the ridges on the helmet, they look cool, but Klingons have different ridge patterns depending on their family, so Id hope they wouldnt leave that out. I think its cool introducing new aliens, but when you have ones (like the Romulans and Klingons) that we already know how they look, I dont see the point in changing it.

44. dmduncan - October 6, 2009

Looks like the 1st left mask top row is Cardassian. Also looks like they put a couple different Whitley Strieberesque Grays in there.

And I believe the babies would be Kirk and Spock.

45. dmduncan - October 6, 2009

And by the way, folks, if you haven’t clicked on the SFN link, here’s a hi res pic of the Klingon in the makeup chair without the helmet on:

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Joel-Harlow-2.JPG

46. CmdrR - October 6, 2009

This is a disaster! Klingons whose skin doesn’t have fraying edges? That’s just not canon!

OK! Enough !!!.

Actually, one of the worst offenses of Nemesis was an early c/u shot of the Romulan woman, where you could see where her ear tip attached. There were a few ‘beauts’ in TNG as well, especially with Worf’s ever-peeling headpieces.

One of the great things in JJ’s movie is the ability of the makeup to stand close-ups. The early scenes of the Vulcans, where you can see the veins in their ears because of the backlighting is amazing. (Although the veins are red, instead of green!)

The new Klingon looks more Orc than Trek, but that’s fine. I fully expect a lot of bad-ass Klingons in the next movie. It’d be nice to have them more like Kor (a nice take on “The Grand Illusion” and a nice performance from John Colicos) and less like Koloth (buffoonish; and yes I know it was a comic episode.)

47. tman - October 6, 2009

Klingon character design look nice but I would hope in space the grunts take on a more haggard appearance (like the submariners in Das Boot). Everyone is so costumed, hiply designed and European leathered, I half expect Kate Beckinsale in tight plastic jeans to flip across the screen shooting away.

I think Romulans are the Romans in space.

48. Brett Campbell - October 6, 2009

45 – Thanks for the link, but it took forever to download on my computer at work — a long time for not that great a design. Actually kind of ugly — like Klingons were bred by Snuffleupagus.

49. dmduncan - October 6, 2009

Regarding the Klingon under the helmet, what would REALLY be cool from a dramatic and visually interesting standpoint, would be to put those ridges back but make them actual bony protrusions, not skin covered, but protruding out of the skin the way that fingernails and teeth do, or the way that horns on an animal do.

That would look awesome and somewhat frightening, I think.

50. angry rockman - October 6, 2009

hmmmmm http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Barney-Burman-and-Don-Lanning.jpg M-113 creature?

51. Do You Wanna Dance - October 6, 2009

The masks can explain the Klingon’s genetic mutation that could have also inevitably happened around that time. Based on canon, they looked human, though Genghis Khan-like, and this could have been the turning point where they were ashamed or unwilling to deal with the physical transformation as a result of the accidental genetic mutation.

52. CarlG - October 6, 2009

Uruk-Hai Klingons? :D
Although those helmets would look good with appropriately barbaric armor, instead of the trench coats. Some kind of Klingon shock troops, maybe?

I wish we had seen those amazing makeup jobs more clearly in the movie. Ah well, next time…

53. Pete359 - October 6, 2009

Check these images out, it looks like the M-113 creature was going to have a cameo. I didn’t see it though. The others in the photo set I did.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/italent/3526217921/in/photostream/

54. captain_neill - October 6, 2009

Im not sure I like the look of the Klingons, I don’t hate it but I thought it would look similar to how they were before.

Guess it could be a way to combine the ridges with smooth headed Klingons

55. captain_neill - October 6, 2009

Can I ask out of curiosity, are there any people who hate the changes JJ Abrams made to some of the iconic stuff in Star Trek?

Not saying because I hate the film but I always more people would be vocal against changes to their favourite show.

56. captain_neill - October 6, 2009

13

I agree with that idea, I like that one

But the original Klingon look is iconic, if they have been changed drastically under that helemt, then AARRRRRRRRRRGGGGH!

57. DJ Neelix - October 7, 2009

@55 captain_neill
I hate it, because I loved it the way it was before. We need new stories, not new costumes.

58. DJ Neelix - October 7, 2009

But I usually don’t comment here any more, because I feel alienated (haha) by the new Trek, and I feel a sadness when realising that people didn’t see what I saw in ST, they were just in it for the “space action”.
I liked the fact that the aliens in ST usually weren’t that menacing, because I think that that feels more real in a way. I think this “our enemies are monsters” is very primitive and anti-intellectual. Usually your enemy is flesh and blood like you, but perhaps looks a bit different. Basically, I’ve never been a big fan of demonization.

Star Trek has become any other sci/fi. There is nothing left to distinguish it. These costumes are clearly in line with that. If you look at them, they all look as if they’ve been taken out of a Guillermo del Toro film (except for those that look like taken out of Star Wars).

But I’m not one who doesn’t give second chances, and I will watch nu-Trek 2 with an open mind.

59. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

I will be watching the next Trek movie as well

I was only asking out of curiosity to get a feel of the two camps for JJ Abrams new film.

60. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

DJ

I reach

I do like the new movie but I do miss what came before

61. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - October 7, 2009

behind the sceens stuff is the best

62. ProperTrekkieUK - October 7, 2009

The new Klingons are epic. I hope that they are more like real Vikings and less like the classic stereotyped rampaging Vikings. I am all for the Norse-ness of them, its great, but make them less barbaric and less stupid please…thats a dis-service to the Nordic peoples.

I like the helmets, good blag on the smooth/ridged heads, and trench coats just work for prison guards dont they!

In ST:SS I would like to see a Master and Commander style film with the Big-E pitched against an aggressive yet clever Klingon Commander, by removing a overly powerful villan as a main character (like the French captain in M&C) you can focus more on the major character set-pieces on the Enterprise itself! Hmmm….maybe if the Klingons had done or were planning something majorly bad…and the Enterprise had captured one of his officers and they had to decide how to get the information out of him…

Anywho

63. greenapple7 - October 7, 2009

@62
that may be cool as an opening scene but I’m all for a Vulcan villain!

64. Crazy Guy - October 7, 2009

I looked at the pictures of the Klingons on a different website. There was a “third” picture of one of the actors without the helmet, and in full makeup apparently.

I guess Abrams DID go with canon, and these Klingons have no forehead ridges (though I could be wrong — screenshots I’ve seen all show them wearing helmets, only a behind-the-scenes photo was helmetless). I guess Abrams wanted a Darth Vader or Shredder look for our favorite nemeses. Nice.

And for those of you who do complain about their new look, it makes sense. The Klingons, having been affected by the augment virus epidemic, would see their lack of forehead ridges as dishonorable and maybe even disgraceful (assuming disgrace is stronger than dishonor). They’d wear helmets to conceal their shame. And adding forehead ridges to the helmets themselves may be an act of deception, or cosmetic compensation, on their part.

Hope to see the Klingies in action in STII — them or the Planet Killer.

65. David_Alexander - October 7, 2009

The Klingons look like ‘The Ripper’ from ‘Last Action Hero’…

66. Chris Pike - October 7, 2009

32. Check the Circuit! – October 6, 2009

Yes that was good – would have been even cleverer with a hint of green blood vessels though.

Can’t seem to get the highrez Klingon pics??

But they do look a vast improvement, as did all the alien make up work for the film.

67. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

However Quinto did not have the greenish tinge to his make up that Leonard had on TOS.

Greenish tinge was due to a copper based blood.

I am a fan of the Klingon make up as it was

68. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

in addition looking at Klingon without make up I see its actually a cool blending of the TOS Klingon smooth head look and the TNG look, perhaps a sign of the ridges starting to reform on some Klingons?

69. Sebi - October 7, 2009

Part 2 is up…

70. Paul - October 7, 2009

Klingons? From what I can see, those are hairy Hirogen, helm included. :P

71. John from Cincinnati - October 7, 2009

I love the updated look to the classic Star Trek aliens! Hope to see some of these in the next movie in prominent roles.

72. jonboc@aol.com - October 7, 2009

Great updates to the classic TOS aliens! And an incredible turn around for the long poodle haired grunting hulks with ridiculous crazy patterns of latex on their forehead. I don’t even want to call them Klingons because they were so different and full of crap like honor and singing songs. The TOS version of Kor was nasty, cold blooded, he was greasy and he would shake your hand while holding a knife in the other, ready to do you in when you turn your back. He was deliciously contemptible. When and IF JJ ever brings Klingons back into the mix, I hope he jettisons that 24th century Klingon mentality along the the poodle hair and garbled latex appliances.

73. doug_skywalker - October 7, 2009

one thing that needs to addressed is the fact that some of the make-up effects that came before suffered from one major thing: budget. there was no way in heck that there was going to be TNG Klingons with realistic skin effects in their ridges and such. it just wasn’t going to happen. someone mentioned before that the Nemesis ears were poorly done, that was because the film had a TV budget. Baird even said it himself. if abrams can take advantage of his budget and create REALISM for his movie, i’m all for it. artisitc interpretation, people.

74. Seumas - October 7, 2009

But the Hirogen never looked so life-like!

75. Justin - October 7, 2009

71. YES!!!! I’m glad someone else prefers the TOS Klingon personas as opposed the TNG, honor, pirates in space, over-exaggeration of a warrior culture thing. I liked the subtlety, intelligence, and deceptive cunning of the TOS and TOS movie Klingons. The 24th century version went way too far. It got comical after a while. Yes, with the make-up too.

76. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

the changes to the Klingons were explained in Enterprise.

I happen to like both interpretations of the Klingons.

I hope JJ can find balance between the two versions.

He should not redo everything just he is JJ ABrams.

Although enjoying the new film I think he changed too much. Not keen on the Klingons looking more like the Xindi sloth.

TNG added a culture to the Klingon Empire, granted they were neanderthal at times< i found the Klingon stuff very interesting.

77. JessIAm - October 7, 2009

I’d like to see the makeup for the med tech from the Kelvin who had those huge eyes.

Did you notice baby Kirk and baby Spock to the left and right of the alien Engineer from Delta Vega?

78. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

I know this is off topic but willt there be a tribute to Scott Bakula as its his birthday on 9 October?

79. AJ - October 7, 2009

72:

I’m with you. The whole “honor!” thing with the Klingons seems to go against the culture as it was developed in TOS. The Klingons were about mass executions of innocents, no captives, and pure lies and deception. On an individual level, they were intelligent and could be reasoned with.

80. British Naval Dude - October 7, 2009

Scott Bakula???? Worst vampire ever!

ARCHER: Golly, look out in the ballroom. So many fans dressed as me. And a great big cake, too! Golly, golly!

TRIP: Yeah, Cap’n… and I think some o’ them out there are women folk.

ARCHER: How can you tell?

TRIP: Cap’n?

ARCHER: How can you tell, you know, who the women folk are?

TRIP: Bumps, dammit! Bumps! Geez… did you go our for a haircut and to get Porthos neutered on the same day and somehow got those mixed up?

ARCHER: I’m a damned good captain. Schools are named after me.

TRIP: Well, I’m a damned good engineer. Many children are named after me. Well, at least I think they are. Say, what’s this child support line in the take-outs from my paycheque?

KAN-TRAP: As a Klingon, I wonder what happened to my people? We used to be the evil George Hamiltons of the galaxy… but then we became some sort of nihilistic warrrior clan. What, are they drugging our prosthetics with steriods?

ARCHER: That Klingon has bumps. Is that a woman?

Oh- I kids cuz’ I loves… : )

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…

81. AJ - October 7, 2009

Archer: “Well, Jeepers. Can I touch a woman? I mean, will she hit me if I try?”

Trip: “Cap’n, it’ up to you. It’s up to your personal charasma.”

Archer: “Charasma?”

Trip: “Surely, Cap’n. See that 7-footer over there? Use the pick-up line I taught you!”

Archer walks up to the Klingon Security Officer: “Hi, Sweetie. If I told you you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?”

Klingon: “If you were but one demi-Kellicam taller, I would gut you like a baby Targ on Christmas eve! HA! HA! HA! HA! More blood wine!”

Archer: “Trip! I don’t know what that means…”

Trip: “Yer doin’ fine, Skipper. Tell him about his eyes.”

Archer: “You have beautiful thighs”

Trip: “Oh Shi*t”

Klingon: “So, hairless rapscallion! Now face your honorless doom!”

Trip: “Post-TOS Klingons have a thing about their thighs….I’m kinda outta here.” (runs)

Archer: “Golly….”

82. Check the Circuit! - October 7, 2009

I think Mr. Nimoy looks better with the ears and his own hair rather than having to wear one of the ubiquitous Vulcan wigs. Just sayin’.

83. dmduncan - October 7, 2009

I would totally dump this nonsense augment virus thing introduced in Enterprise, along with every thing else introduced by Enterprise. Yeah, that’s a good way to kill the new franchise: Let’s be hamstrung by the lousy ideas introduced in lousy Trek spinoff series.

It would be much more interesting, story wise, to have human looking Klingons the result of a massive genetic engineering program to infiltrate the Federation, to pass as human—and Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite.

The virus idea was as lame as the series it came from, and now some people will cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war if the augment virus crap isn’t respected.

84. AJ - October 7, 2009

83:

I think it was just Manny Coto trying to “fix” everything.

Don’t like that Temporal Cold War? Fixed.

Constipated Mean Vulcans? Fixed.

Inconsistent Klingon physiognomies? Fixed (?)

Archer still never got a personality.

85. Mammalian Verisimilitude - October 7, 2009

I don’t think the unhelmeted Klingon being ridgeless means anything. Take another look at where the seams on the rubber makeup are – that makeup was never meant to be shot without the helmet fully covering the forehead and cheeks.

Given that the nose is 100% TMP/TNG-on Klingon, they still may or may not have ridges when the full head is shown, regardless of what the helmet implies.

86. Captain_Mills - October 7, 2009

Yes, but it looks so much more realistic than the fake-foreheads in all the TNG episodes. This looks more alien and rough to me… I like it! Here’s to hoping we see them in action someday!

87. captain_neill - October 7, 2009

86

That was the Klingon look and its the look I want to continue

It was NOT fake looking.

Here they should have the smooth heads due to the era.

Sorry along with TOS, TNG is my fav show so i find it hurtful that all everyone does here is bitch about the Trek I grew up watching, yet JJ can do no wrong.

JJ did a few things that drove me crazy but I stil enjoyed the film. I still love what came from the past as well,

If Worf had this new look I’d scream.

88. ProperTrekkieUK - October 8, 2009

@ 87…I think everyone likes the new Klingons because they mark a point between the TOS Klingons (no ridges) and the TNG Klingons (with ridges)…there has to be a point where they stopped being human looking and started to start looking like ridged up TNG guys…

…although personally I like the new looking Klingons, in TNG they did begin to get a little farsicle!

89. ProperTrekkieUK - October 8, 2009

Parts 2 and 3 (including some un-used Romulan ideas as well as explaining Romulan ridges and stuff) are online at the SciFi Now site

90. USS Manila NCC-99232 - October 8, 2009

Hope they’re gonna make a bunch more aliens in the 2011 sequel. I like Keenser

91. Dom - October 8, 2009

New era, new designs. As far as I’m concerned the makers of these new films can change whatever they like. For me, Star Trek is words on pages and the TV/film incarnations interpretations of the words.

Like the Klingon designs and couldn’t give two hoots whether they ‘contradict’ anything. Just you wait: there’ll probably be an extended release Blu-ray right before the sequel hits cinemas!

92. doug_skywalker - October 8, 2009

#91- YES! RIGHT TO CREATIVE EXPRESSION AND INTERPRETATION!

93. dmduncan - October 8, 2009

I like these Klingons because they look more realistic and detailed. Enough with the giant scrambled egg foreheads, Arkansas Bob fake teeth and the Andy Rooney eyebrows already. And it’s about time the Klingon Empire got some new uniforms. They’ve been wearing the same clothes for a couple hundred years.

94. captain_neill - October 8, 2009

93

so once again everything in the past was wrong.

The look of the ridges was fine, JJ did not have to change them.

I think everyone wants so much realism these days that it takes the fun out of things.

What I get from this site is just bitching about the Treks we grew up with. Has the Trek been forgotten just because of this one movie?

95. doug_skywalker - October 9, 2009

#94

Not at all, man, not at all. But now that they’re able to have the money for some of these productions, they can afford all the things that weren’t attainable due to low budgets (like how Gene Roddenberry always intended for Kligons to have ridges but the budget never would’ve allowed it). so, it’s not that everything from the past is ‘wrong’, it’s now the ideas of the past can be fully realized.

besides, i think it’s a distraction for movie make-up to be pealing or ‘fake’ looking…sorry, that’s just me…

96. The Gorn - November 3, 2009

I can confirm that is definitely a Gorn mask. It’s pretty heavy too

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