Comments on: More Star Trek Movie Make-up Secrets

By: doug_skywalker

doug_skywalker — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:24:20 +0000

@ #30 – Captain Neil

i can totally see your point.

i’ve been seeing almost 50/50 in regards to the preference of Klingons…TOS vs. TNG. and while i’d like to get into the various differences of the series themselves, both production and canon, let’s just chalk it up to personal opinion…you like what you like…

personally, i thought Enterprose had better interpretations of aliens and such, especially the Andorians…Shran = total bad@$$

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:09:59 +0000

Some of the earlier novels did interesting things with the Klingons — talking about different cultural, racial and ethnic groups and their rise and fall within the empire with kind of a macbethy feel to it …

I found the Klingons and romulans more interesting in TOS. TNG kind of made both quite stereotyped. I like the idea of Romulans who are more caught up in orders and politics they may nit agree with and just wanting to get the damned crew home – a bunch of individuals rather than just big masses of bad make up. It would be interesting to see conflict, and just emotions, personalities generally, among the villains themselves, I always wondered about all the officers on the Star Deatroyers in the empire strikes back, and their various motivations…

By: Burek

Burek — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:58:25 +0000

I miss Romulan greenish skin tone (like they were depicted in Nemesis), and I don’t miss Klingon ridges. The way new makeup looks, species resemble more to each other. That makes easier explanation of children born from interracial relationships. With this, maybe Ferengi could be used as real threat instead of Klingons, like they were originally meant to be…

By: RetroWarbird

RetroWarbird — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:29:15 +0000

Bring on the Klingons, for sure. Fueling civil wars with arms dealing and trying to weaken the Federation’s alliances.

Ideally, I’d like to see almost a fusion of TOS and TNG Klingon sensibilities – a little more tribal in the hair braids, a little less “generic military” … and dial up the “Space Viking” status to ridiculous levels so it’s obvious to everyone that’s just why Klingons are so bad-ass.

Obviously Klingons already have a language, but the ideal thing I think would be to hear the men speak with slower, deeper, almost even with Nordic accents, so that every phrase feels like an epic poem, and every war song feels like victory.

We never actually got to see THOSE klingons as the enemy – gleefully singing in unison as they raced down the halls of a starship killing Starfleet officers – our main characters – in hand-to-hand combat. We only ever saw them as allies, but as an enemy nothing would be more epic and fearsome – an enemy that just raided and looted a Federation Starbase just so they could take the spoils of war home and gain fame and power within their own kingdom.

How do you truly beat an enemy like that? I know how the Europeans did it … they didn’t. The consistently lost, until eventually, after years of giving up land and tribute, the viking age ended and Scandinavia became just another set of kingdoms in the increasingly intermarried and interconnected “royal families” of Europe.

By: No Khan

No Khan — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:30:29 +0000

I want the same evil cunning Klingon’s like in TOS instead of the TNG cavemen barbarians that would have never even got past the stone age & made it into space with the way they acted. And yes keep the pronounced ridges like in ST:TMP.
I also hated the way they all dressed the same & not very functional dress. Put them in uniform but still show non uniform when needed.

By: Pete359

Pete359 — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:48:29 +0000

LOL that Klingon looks more like an old Bajoran.

By: Dr. Image

Dr. Image — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:54:06 +0000

As someone who has sculpted and run foam, I think Burman & co. did a great job. There’s a subtlety to the make-ups that’s really impressive. The Klingons look like they’re somewhere between the old-school version and the TNG variety.
The only thing that bugged me was old Spock’s ears. Too thick, and an unflattering sculpt. Perhaps there was a reason for the look, but I don’t think it worked. Aged or not, a person’s ears don’t change THAT drastically.
Overall though, hats off!

By: EFFeX

EFFeX — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:50:39 +0000

I don’t like the Klingon appearance at all in that picture, bring back the ridges!

By: They call me Stasiu

They call me Stasiu — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:06:20 +0000

I love all the early Romulan make-up tests; it’s a great peek into what could’ve been.
While the Klingon appliances were only to support the masked appearance, the subtle ridges and nose seem to allude to the human-looking Klingons of TOS, which feels perfect to me given the time-frame of the new movie.
Too bad some of the photos have dead links.

By: captain_neill

captain_neill — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:24:11 +0000

yea but all I see is fans bitching about our favourite show and then calling people who dont like the new film , non true fans

Am I missing something here?

Star Trek is a great franchise and all we can do about al the stuff before the new movie is bitch about it?