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	<title>Comments on: Orci &amp; Kurtzman On Star Trek Sequel, Fringe, Cowboys &amp; Aliens &amp; more + Pair Producing Hawaii Five-0 Reboot</title>
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		<title>By: Jamey Kless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamey Kless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let the klingons evolve again, give them horns and reptilian dna, make them a cuckoo race whose home is a world stolen from its indigenous peoples, hide them (a la the deleted scenes from the first movie) at first so as to deliver some sort of disgust or shock when we eventually see them, cast morgan freeman against type as a psychotic alien who gets klingon red-eye when mad and who lightly sautés women and children of the human red-shirt persuasion as his favourite starter before entering into battle, washed down with a magnum of mugatu blood... this is an alternative timeline where shatner never died or might die tomorrow, we don&#039;t need &#039;old&#039; villains, the crew wouldn&#039;t even necessarily meet them anyway. ho-hum. and please re-introduce yeoman rand, at least as some kind of bargaining chip for the villain, before letting her die horribly, thereby giving kirk a reason to kick galactic ass. just don&#039;t make sulu gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let the klingons evolve again, give them horns and reptilian dna, make them a cuckoo race whose home is a world stolen from its indigenous peoples, hide them (a la the deleted scenes from the first movie) at first so as to deliver some sort of disgust or shock when we eventually see them, cast morgan freeman against type as a psychotic alien who gets klingon red-eye when mad and who lightly sautés women and children of the human red-shirt persuasion as his favourite starter before entering into battle, washed down with a magnum of mugatu blood&#8230; this is an alternative timeline where shatner never died or might die tomorrow, we don&#8217;t need &#8216;old&#8217; villains, the crew wouldn&#8217;t even necessarily meet them anyway. ho-hum. and please re-introduce yeoman rand, at least as some kind of bargaining chip for the villain, before letting her die horribly, thereby giving kirk a reason to kick galactic ass. just don&#8217;t make sulu gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish these hacks would just leave it alone, Bring it back to the prime universe is what I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish these hacks would just leave it alone, Bring it back to the prime universe is what I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Daoud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I think you and Alex are doing a great job of sandbagging us.

I tend to think you&#039;ve already got the script all plotted out, and you&#039;re enjoying all the diversionaries. :)

All I hope to have answered... is why the hell was the fleet being gathered at the Laurentian System before Nero&#039;s appearance at Vulcan....

Is that system near the Klingon-Federation &quot;borderland&quot;?

And since Pike (a majorly important Captain, erm, I&#039;d say almost a &quot;Fleet&quot; Captain) wasn&#039;t already at the Laurentian System in charge of it... there must be another Fleet Captain already there....

Fleet Captain Garth is really a great answer to that.  And there&#039;s no reason (following on your use of the Laurentian Abyss from HFRO) you couldn&#039;t model the yet-to-go-insane Garth upon Marko Ramius.

And perhaps Axanar is nearby... and a young Kang, Koloth and Kor.

Oh, it would have been glorious.... and interesting to have Kirk&#039;s Enterprise turn up at the Axanar &quot;Peace Mission&quot;, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I think you and Alex are doing a great job of sandbagging us.</p>
<p>I tend to think you&#8217;ve already got the script all plotted out, and you&#8217;re enjoying all the diversionaries. :)</p>
<p>All I hope to have answered&#8230; is why the hell was the fleet being gathered at the Laurentian System before Nero&#8217;s appearance at Vulcan&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is that system near the Klingon-Federation &#8220;borderland&#8221;?</p>
<p>And since Pike (a majorly important Captain, erm, I&#8217;d say almost a &#8220;Fleet&#8221; Captain) wasn&#8217;t already at the Laurentian System in charge of it&#8230; there must be another Fleet Captain already there&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fleet Captain Garth is really a great answer to that.  And there&#8217;s no reason (following on your use of the Laurentian Abyss from HFRO) you couldn&#8217;t model the yet-to-go-insane Garth upon Marko Ramius.</p>
<p>And perhaps Axanar is nearby&#8230; and a young Kang, Koloth and Kor.</p>
<p>Oh, it would have been glorious&#8230;. and interesting to have Kirk&#8217;s Enterprise turn up at the Axanar &#8220;Peace Mission&#8221;, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: dmduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It goes without saying that any portrayal of the Klingons should not be a reprisal of the simplistic one dimensional villains.  There would have to be sympathetic characters.  Turn someone like Steve Buscemi into a funny and very non warrior-like English speaking Klingon who hates the Empire and agrees to help Kirk if he can get asylum in the Federation.    Have Kirk discover a half naked beautiful Klingon sex slave in a Klingon officer’s quarters when they run in there to escape a chase (imagine someone like Dichen Lachman in the role) with NICE teeth—maybe a bit vampirically sharp, but nice—who also wants out.  She doesn’t speak English, so the Buscemi-Klingon has to translate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It goes without saying that any portrayal of the Klingons should not be a reprisal of the simplistic one dimensional villains.  There would have to be sympathetic characters.  Turn someone like Steve Buscemi into a funny and very non warrior-like English speaking Klingon who hates the Empire and agrees to help Kirk if he can get asylum in the Federation.    Have Kirk discover a half naked beautiful Klingon sex slave in a Klingon officer’s quarters when they run in there to escape a chase (imagine someone like Dichen Lachman in the role) with NICE teeth—maybe a bit vampirically sharp, but nice—who also wants out.  She doesn’t speak English, so the Buscemi-Klingon has to translate.</p>
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		<title>By: dmduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for a massive Klingon invasion movie that Kirk figures out an amazing way to repel, testing young Kirk&#039;s fitness for command, and silencing all his doubters—a way which which averts an all out war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

It would be cool to see the crew split over confidence in his ability, with Uhura, McCoy, and Scotty doubting him, and Sulu, Chekov, and Spock believing in him, a split which is resolved by the end of the film.

Afterwards, McCoy and Scotty both apologize and pledge they&#039;ll never doubt him again.  In the turbolift, Uhura does the same.  When he thanks &quot;Uhura&quot; she corrects him: &quot;Nyota.  My first name is Nyota.&quot;

He smiles and nods.  She smiles back, her gaze lingering a half second too long before she whirls off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for a massive Klingon invasion movie that Kirk figures out an amazing way to repel, testing young Kirk&#8217;s fitness for command, and silencing all his doubters—a way which which averts an all out war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.</p>
<p>It would be cool to see the crew split over confidence in his ability, with Uhura, McCoy, and Scotty doubting him, and Sulu, Chekov, and Spock believing in him, a split which is resolved by the end of the film.</p>
<p>Afterwards, McCoy and Scotty both apologize and pledge they&#8217;ll never doubt him again.  In the turbolift, Uhura does the same.  When he thanks &#8220;Uhura&#8221; she corrects him: &#8220;Nyota.  My first name is Nyota.&#8221;</p>
<p>He smiles and nods.  She smiles back, her gaze lingering a half second too long before she whirls off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I think a film should be based on:  the Federation Prime Directive for non-interference.  It must be there for a good reason, which was never examined in filmed Trek (perhaps it was in a book).  In TOS, Kirk violated the Directive routinely, usually to positive effect.  But suppose New Kirk and Co ran into a situation that cried out for interference, but every attempt at interference simply made things worse, reaffirming the Prime Directive as the right solution.  Plenty of opportunity for character-based interaction between Kirk, Spock and McCoy, as well as being thought-provoking, and something that involves a central principle of Trek.  I have no idea what the situation should be; I&#039;m not a screenwriter!

Please, if not the next film, then the one after that!

&quot;Enterprise&quot; should have done a storyline like this as part of the Federation&#039;s origins, to dramatize whatever catastrophic screw-up resulted in the Prime Directive in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I think a film should be based on:  the Federation Prime Directive for non-interference.  It must be there for a good reason, which was never examined in filmed Trek (perhaps it was in a book).  In TOS, Kirk violated the Directive routinely, usually to positive effect.  But suppose New Kirk and Co ran into a situation that cried out for interference, but every attempt at interference simply made things worse, reaffirming the Prime Directive as the right solution.  Plenty of opportunity for character-based interaction between Kirk, Spock and McCoy, as well as being thought-provoking, and something that involves a central principle of Trek.  I have no idea what the situation should be; I&#8217;m not a screenwriter!</p>
<p>Please, if not the next film, then the one after that!</p>
<p>&#8220;Enterprise&#8221; should have done a storyline like this as part of the Federation&#8217;s origins, to dramatize whatever catastrophic screw-up resulted in the Prime Directive in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>150:

Porthos X:

The E being upside-down was done intentionally.  There was a discussion here months ago that conventional ideas about &#039;which way is up in space?&#039; would be challenged by the film&#039;s portrayal of ships moving through space.

As for the editing, I think a fine job was done. Keeping a frenetic pace and rich story going for two hours isn&#039;t easy.</description>
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<p>Porthos X:</p>
<p>The E being upside-down was done intentionally.  There was a discussion here months ago that conventional ideas about &#8216;which way is up in space?&#8217; would be challenged by the film&#8217;s portrayal of ships moving through space.</p>
<p>As for the editing, I think a fine job was done. Keeping a frenetic pace and rich story going for two hours isn&#8217;t easy.</p>
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		<title>By: S. John Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. John Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>153. boborci - October 11, 2009 

Fair enough ;)</description>
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<p>Fair enough ;)</p>
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		<title>By: boborci</title>
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		<dc:creator>boborci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>143. S. John Ross - October 11, 2009


Never saw it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>143. S. John Ross &#8211; October 11, 2009</p>
<p>Never saw it.</p>
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