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	<title>Comments on: Watch Full Video From Art Director&#8217;s Guild Tribute To Star Trek</title>
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		<title>By: Spockish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spockish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 C.S. Lewis, I&#039;ve alway&#039;s knew the 19666-69 Star Trek was just Star Trek, in 1990 when I started label my VHS tapes I started doing the ST:TOS and ST:TNG. I started to notice others doing the same when in 1993 Deep Space Nine came out. At that time most did ST:DS9, I did ST:DSN and over time people moved to using the N instead of 9. Most likely because before Letters have been used so why not keep using them.

I&#039;m not saying that I invented the coding system, all I&#039;m saying is similar minds think the same way no matter how brilliant or dumb the thoughts.

Actully started thinking the ST:name labeling system when the movies came out in the 80&#039;s, because putting labels on the 2.25&quot; tape end labels was hard to fit all the letters in the full title. And double stacking tapes let you fit 2 tapes in the space of one. But DVD&#039;s solved the storage space problem. I could fit 16 to 20 Jewel cases in the space of a tape. Thats thin or slim cases.

Amd 10 pack cases are 3 times better than full sized jewel cases. If I was still using VHS with my collection all my basement walls would be shelves with tapes on them, and losing quality as they ages. Still have around 600 VHS tapes sitting in boxes. Will sell the tapes when VHS tapes get rare and the used price of a quarter a tape. They cost me on average $1.00 for T-120&#039;s and $1.25 for T-160&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 C.S. Lewis, I&#8217;ve alway&#8217;s knew the 19666-69 Star Trek was just Star Trek, in 1990 when I started label my VHS tapes I started doing the ST:TOS and ST:TNG. I started to notice others doing the same when in 1993 Deep Space Nine came out. At that time most did ST:DS9, I did ST:DSN and over time people moved to using the N instead of 9. Most likely because before Letters have been used so why not keep using them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that I invented the coding system, all I&#8217;m saying is similar minds think the same way no matter how brilliant or dumb the thoughts.</p>
<p>Actully started thinking the ST:name labeling system when the movies came out in the 80&#8217;s, because putting labels on the 2.25&#8243; tape end labels was hard to fit all the letters in the full title. And double stacking tapes let you fit 2 tapes in the space of one. But DVD&#8217;s solved the storage space problem. I could fit 16 to 20 Jewel cases in the space of a tape. Thats thin or slim cases.</p>
<p>Amd 10 pack cases are 3 times better than full sized jewel cases. If I was still using VHS with my collection all my basement walls would be shelves with tapes on them, and losing quality as they ages. Still have around 600 VHS tapes sitting in boxes. Will sell the tapes when VHS tapes get rare and the used price of a quarter a tape. They cost me on average $1.00 for T-120&#8217;s and $1.25 for T-160&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S. Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S. Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hosannas to the men and women of the original Star Trek series, especially Matt Jeffries who contributed so much of the program&#039;s look and feel.  Do many of you have his son&#039;s beautiful and touching biography? Anyway, those craftsmen were wonderful, creative people decades ahead of their time.  

It makes me sad to read the ignorant insults from so many younger fans here who can be counted upon to write, &quot;They used plywood for crying out loud!&quot;  How does one reply to such a sentiment?  It comes from a radically different place, informed by something other than a love of theater and cinema, possibly the video/multiplayer gaming phenomena in which pixels on a screen are mistaken for flesh, blood, brick and mortar.

Oh, a quick note to the site editors: there is no such thing as &quot;Star Trek The Original Series&quot;.  Not only is that a somewhat homely nickname, the first Star Trek program is called simply &quot;Star Trek&quot;.  No need to rewrite history.

Sincerely,
C.S. Lewis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosannas to the men and women of the original Star Trek series, especially Matt Jeffries who contributed so much of the program&#8217;s look and feel.  Do many of you have his son&#8217;s beautiful and touching biography? Anyway, those craftsmen were wonderful, creative people decades ahead of their time.  </p>
<p>It makes me sad to read the ignorant insults from so many younger fans here who can be counted upon to write, &#8220;They used plywood for crying out loud!&#8221;  How does one reply to such a sentiment?  It comes from a radically different place, informed by something other than a love of theater and cinema, possibly the video/multiplayer gaming phenomena in which pixels on a screen are mistaken for flesh, blood, brick and mortar.</p>
<p>Oh, a quick note to the site editors: there is no such thing as &#8220;Star Trek The Original Series&#8221;.  Not only is that a somewhat homely nickname, the first Star Trek program is called simply &#8220;Star Trek&#8221;.  No need to rewrite history.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
C.S. Lewis</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jefferies did more with scrap, imagination and $1.97 than Chambliss did with untold thousands of dollars!</description>
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		<title>By: davidfuchs</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidfuchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeyl 

As much as I disagree with the brewery locale, it didn&#039;t have a &quot;grunge&quot; look to it. Sure, it was a brewery, but a kept-up one with lots of sparkly lights and such. I don&#039;t *agree* with the production choices for the movie, but I still defend them as on the whole some damn good design. Whether I think it feels like Trek... another issue (I mean, you could argue about which is true Trek, Roddenberry&#039;s sterile TMP bridge or Meyer&#039;s submarine look in TWOK and TUC.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeyl </p>
<p>As much as I disagree with the brewery locale, it didn&#8217;t have a &#8220;grunge&#8221; look to it. Sure, it was a brewery, but a kept-up one with lots of sparkly lights and such. I don&#8217;t *agree* with the production choices for the movie, but I still defend them as on the whole some damn good design. Whether I think it feels like Trek&#8230; another issue (I mean, you could argue about which is true Trek, Roddenberry&#8217;s sterile TMP bridge or Meyer&#8217;s submarine look in TWOK and TUC.)</p>
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		<title>By: Spockish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spockish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4. CmdrR, was that Warp 6 in a yellow Gremlin, I recall seeing a a comedy sketch in the 90&#039;s about that. As Shoddy said when Capt. Jerk said I need more speed, the reply was Sorry Capt. this ship is not structured to hanle that speed, and by the way better start looking for an unleaded antimatter station soon because were almost running on fumes.

I think it was on a FOX copy of SNL or a Second City skit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4. CmdrR, was that Warp 6 in a yellow Gremlin, I recall seeing a a comedy sketch in the 90&#8217;s about that. As Shoddy said when Capt. Jerk said I need more speed, the reply was Sorry Capt. this ship is not structured to hanle that speed, and by the way better start looking for an unleaded antimatter station soon because were almost running on fumes.</p>
<p>I think it was on a FOX copy of SNL or a Second City skit.</p>
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		<title>By: Spockish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spockish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the RAP insult but in 1980 when I first herd it I titled it &quot;Coordinated Noise&quot;.

And since I avoid it like Laurence Welk LP&#039;s I have never herd any positive aimed songs, I&#039;m sure there may be one or two but I do not think those ever became singles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the RAP insult but in 1980 when I first herd it I titled it &#8220;Coordinated Noise&#8221;.</p>
<p>And since I avoid it like Laurence Welk LP&#8217;s I have never herd any positive aimed songs, I&#8217;m sure there may be one or two but I do not think those ever became singles.</p>
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		<title>By: Spockish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spockish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll agree with #2. the marvels of Star Trek&#039;s visual aspects, do one thing very well, almost better than any other method, and that is to make you think of what you thought before was not possible is now possible. In turn many try to learn how that is possible and educate themselves in how to make it possible.

As for #3, his comment is the old Apples and Oranges thing. And their is an easy reply that was used in the advertising of Star Trek:The Movie, and it is &#039;This is not your fathers Star Trek. Why compare 21st century Movie stuff to 20th century TV stuff. I&#039;ll take a guess commentary #3 author listens to Rap, since Rap is 95% &#039;Their out to get me&#039; looking at things in a good way as a first view is very rare from this person.

It goes to show how music has such a power of framing someones points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll agree with #2. the marvels of Star Trek&#8217;s visual aspects, do one thing very well, almost better than any other method, and that is to make you think of what you thought before was not possible is now possible. In turn many try to learn how that is possible and educate themselves in how to make it possible.</p>
<p>As for #3, his comment is the old Apples and Oranges thing. And their is an easy reply that was used in the advertising of Star Trek:The Movie, and it is &#8216;This is not your fathers Star Trek. Why compare 21st century Movie stuff to 20th century TV stuff. I&#8217;ll take a guess commentary #3 author listens to Rap, since Rap is 95% &#8216;Their out to get me&#8217; looking at things in a good way as a first view is very rare from this person.</p>
<p>It goes to show how music has such a power of framing someones points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffries is the man.</description>
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		<title>By: CmdrR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CmdrR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 - Yes, but nothing beats a bear buzz at warp 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 &#8211; Yes, but nothing beats a bear buzz at warp 6.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davidfuchs: &quot;Star Trek simply has been so far in the opposite of the usual chains-in-space “used future” that we get these days&quot;

What about the worn looking brewery with all the concrete floors and nuts and bolts columns ? Not very inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davidfuchs: &#8220;Star Trek simply has been so far in the opposite of the usual chains-in-space “used future” that we get these days&#8221;</p>
<p>What about the worn looking brewery with all the concrete floors and nuts and bolts columns ? Not very inspiring.</p>
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