Comments on: Viral Video Leads To ‘Klingon Empire’ Website

By: T.'.

T.'. — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:44:36 +0000

T.’.

This has to be a new viral for the next ST movie; if not, the damn thing is brilliant regardless. As has already been discussed, every detail is congruent with a logical direction for JJ and Co to go for a sequel, from the retro-stalinist Klingon Empire with common characteristics from ALL previous Klingon incarnations, to the viral nature of the promotion itself. Again, brilliant. I even think the connection to a left wing media company is cool, from a beautifully synergistic perspective — how many side arguments have their been about the Federation’s ’socialist’ nature, or lack there of, etc. etc? (It would really be a kick if, someday, they could actually really explore the ambiguous relationship between the Federation citizen and the UFP state itself.)

Anyway…

Kap’lah!

T.’.

By: Klingon Propaganda

Klingon Propaganda — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:59:11 +0000

[...] is speculation that this is a viral marketing video (it leads to a Klingon website), but the product is not yet evident. It could be the new Star Trek [...]

By: C.S. Lewis

C.S. Lewis — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:34:25 +0000

Navy,
Hooyah from the land of the Star Spangled Banner.

Did you see the Klingon Lenin statue? At the same time, its obvious variegated Oriental portrayals take us back to the 1950s when the USSR, Red China, and their proxies provoked the USA at every turn, esp. Korea and Viet Nam.

I do wonder though, if the political establishment’s recent rehabilitation of Mao Tse Tung has anything to do with the timing… oh I hope not.

Sincerely,
C.S. Lewis
TDY near Fort McHenry, Baltimore, Maryland

By: Last-C

Last-C — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:41:17 +0000

#42 Locutus i didn’t see that you’ve already posted the link to the song, sorry.

I don’t know fellow Turks, but i’m offended and i want an explanation.

By: Last-C

Last-C — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:36:50 +0000

I found the Turkish song used on this video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6xySTvzu4

I can’t understand why someone makes such a video. I hope those who come up with this bright idea will care to explain.

By: Pat Payne

Pat Payne — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:23:57 +0000

@140: That’s an interesting surmise — that the Klingons were a feudal society till shortly before TOS — that might also explain to the layman why there is an “empire” without an “emperor”. Personally, I like the “proud warrior race” angle for the Klingons a bit more than the very-ill-defined (to my mind, at least) “space-commie” analogue of TOS (even Kor came off as more of a “proud warrior race” type). It brings a bit more depth to the race, in my opinion. Now, did they become somewhat neutered once they became allies of the Federation? Yeah, as they lost their tension edge and became “just another forehead race” for the Feds to interact with.

By: Pat Payne

Pat Payne — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:13:18 +0000

@145: The salute was not by any means exclusively Nazi or fascist — it was originally called the Roman Slaute, as it was one supposedly used by the Romans when making oaths (for instance in the famous painting by Jacques-Louis David, “The Oath of the Horatii”). The US even used a variant of the salute, in what was known as the Bellamy Salute, originated in 1892 by Francis Bellamy for the Pledge of Allegiance, the hand remained over the heart until the phrase “To my Flag” (later “to the Flag of the United States Of America”), when it became the Roman Salute. This was changed to just the hand over the heart in 1942, when unfortunate comparisons with the Nazi salute forced a change.

By: JJ Savard

JJ Savard — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:34:15 +0000

@150 Sparkiller I think that was from a demo, where a 25th century ship used the gaurdian of forever and whent back in time (PC Gamer magazine if I remember correctly) this is likely not for STO, because it is still set in the 25th century.

By: Jon Evil

Jon Evil — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:36:26 +0000

this Chinese propaganda video even moreso: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJbNPeYNz8

Even though they were a stand-in for Russia, TOS Klingons had vaguely “oriental” sensibility about them because it gave viewers a sense of ‘otherness,’ of an incomprehensibly non-American culture. Now that China really is the US’s competitor politically and economically (and they really have risen at an incredibly fast rate to threaten American dominance), the Klingon metaphor works even better.

By: AJ

AJ — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:26:47 +0000

Here’s a montage from Russia/USSR. This stuff is closer to home than you think.

The Young Pioneers existed into the 1990s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJw9sKg4Z_0