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	<title>Comments on: Exclusive: Creator Of &#8216;Klingon Propaganda&#8217; Revealed</title>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myself I conceived an empire that was based on the Ottomans, but it dealt with the prospect that TOS Klingons were like the Janissaries and their TMP counterparts belong to the so-called Imperial race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myself I conceived an empire that was based on the Ottomans, but it dealt with the prospect that TOS Klingons were like the Janissaries and their TMP counterparts belong to the so-called Imperial race.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about an *anime* Trek?

This vid was incredible!  I completely enjoyed the &#039;brut art&#039; take on the Soviet-era propaganda art!  It&#039;s one of the best fan-made Trek shorts I&#039;ve seen in a long time.  I agree with all the others who commented &quot;give this guy a job&quot;!

Funny how misinterpreted the 60s have become as time passes by.  Many of the comments about TOS and it&#039;s &#039;message&#039; indicate this.  Did you know that Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise around the Sun?



This is the one area that has been overlooked by Par for at least a decade.  If Par licenses Trek for animation, give it to one of the Japanese major studios and let them do a &#039;take&#039; on it.  One of the ongoing problems with Trek is that it&#039;s too ~American~ at times, which loses the overseas audience.  Trek has that universal appeal that comes with all monomythic epics, and this could easily be translated cross-culturally.  How about a Japanese crew on a TOS/TNG/ENT era ship?  Or perhaps a new timeframe (frankly, the franchise needs a new timeframe as much as it needed a &#039;alternate&#039; timeframe).  We&#039;ve spent over 20 yrs in TNG timeframe and 40 yrs in TOS timeframe...perhaps it&#039;s time to move forward another century.

The big mistake would be to create something animated that simply rehashes the 09 film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about an *anime* Trek?</p>
<p>This vid was incredible!  I completely enjoyed the &#8216;brut art&#8217; take on the Soviet-era propaganda art!  It&#8217;s one of the best fan-made Trek shorts I&#8217;ve seen in a long time.  I agree with all the others who commented &#8220;give this guy a job&#8221;!</p>
<p>Funny how misinterpreted the 60s have become as time passes by.  Many of the comments about TOS and it&#8217;s &#8216;message&#8217; indicate this.  Did you know that Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise around the Sun?</p>
<p>This is the one area that has been overlooked by Par for at least a decade.  If Par licenses Trek for animation, give it to one of the Japanese major studios and let them do a &#8216;take&#8217; on it.  One of the ongoing problems with Trek is that it&#8217;s too ~American~ at times, which loses the overseas audience.  Trek has that universal appeal that comes with all monomythic epics, and this could easily be translated cross-culturally.  How about a Japanese crew on a TOS/TNG/ENT era ship?  Or perhaps a new timeframe (frankly, the franchise needs a new timeframe as much as it needed a &#8216;alternate&#8217; timeframe).  We&#8217;ve spent over 20 yrs in TNG timeframe and 40 yrs in TOS timeframe&#8230;perhaps it&#8217;s time to move forward another century.</p>
<p>The big mistake would be to create something animated that simply rehashes the 09 film.</p>
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		<title>By: Son of a Maui Portagee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Son of a Maui Portagee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83.,

I can&#039;t believe how much short shrift Doohan gets in those eloborate &quot;discussions.&quot;</description>
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<p>I can&#8217;t believe how much short shrift Doohan gets in those eloborate &#8220;discussions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like....he uses original Andorians.   Albeit i find it hard to believe they&#039;d be enslaved...even by the Klingons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like&#8230;.he uses original Andorians.   Albeit i find it hard to believe they&#8217;d be enslaved&#8230;even by the Klingons.</p>
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		<title>By: Closettrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Closettrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82---I can&#039;t believe I just read that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82&#8212;I can&#8217;t believe I just read that post.</p>
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		<title>By: ter'eS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ter'eS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I love the movie and its non-standard-Trek aesthetic, I&#039;m sorry, but this has been bugging me all weekend, so at the risk of seeming like an anal language geek:

 I just can&#039;t agree when you say &quot;There’s been a lot of talk about the translation not being just right, but Skip did it all alone and in secret and it was still accurately translatable back to English. That’s a hell of a successful job.&quot;.

 I would not agree that it is &quot;accurately translatable&quot;; the subtitles have only a glancing likeness to what I can make out of the Klingon words. I don&#039;t want to hurt anyone&#039;s feeling; Skip did an adequate job for someone working all alone and in secret, but it&#039;s a successful job only if you consider the sentence &quot;You dood gooding welly of movie thinging.&quot; to be a successful compliment in English.

If you ever make another of these, I strongly urge you to not go it alone and in secret.  There are plenty of skilled Klingon users who would be happy to help (and who can keep a secret). Klingon has a published grammar with real rules; if you&#039;re not going to follow them, why bother at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I love the movie and its non-standard-Trek aesthetic, I&#8217;m sorry, but this has been bugging me all weekend, so at the risk of seeming like an anal language geek:</p>
<p> I just can&#8217;t agree when you say &#8220;There’s been a lot of talk about the translation not being just right, but Skip did it all alone and in secret and it was still accurately translatable back to English. That’s a hell of a successful job.&#8221;.</p>
<p> I would not agree that it is &#8220;accurately translatable&#8221;; the subtitles have only a glancing likeness to what I can make out of the Klingon words. I don&#8217;t want to hurt anyone&#8217;s feeling; Skip did an adequate job for someone working all alone and in secret, but it&#8217;s a successful job only if you consider the sentence &#8220;You dood gooding welly of movie thinging.&#8221; to be a successful compliment in English.</p>
<p>If you ever make another of these, I strongly urge you to not go it alone and in secret.  There are plenty of skilled Klingon users who would be happy to help (and who can keep a secret). Klingon has a published grammar with real rules; if you&#8217;re not going to follow them, why bother at all?</p>
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		<title>By: ChurchHatesTucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChurchHatesTucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all do know that there IS an animated fan film, don&#039;t you?

http://www.farragut-animated.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all do know that there IS an animated fan film, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.farragut-animated.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.farragut-animated.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Klingon (without a trenchcoat)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Angry Klingon (without a trenchcoat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dmduncan
THANK YOU for several very well thought out and presented posts.</description>
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THANK YOU for several very well thought out and presented posts.</p>
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		<title>By: dmduncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmduncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although &quot;Let That Be Your Last Battlefield&quot; was produced in Star Trek&#039;s downhill season, it was actually written by Gene Coon during the first season.  And how fitting an episode to reflect upon today.  What&#039;s it about, with the two aliens, last of their kinds, feuding to extinction, each one colored black and white but on opposite sides as the their hatred&#039;s reason to fight?

Was it racism?  Today I see that episode in a new and more relevant way.  That list of social ills 68 thinks Star Trek ought to address is curiously missing a problem more dangerous than any of those he mentioned: political extremism.

That episode can easily describe political fanatics in our time who see the world in stark black and white terms, and then who hate or WISH they could kill each other because where the other is black YOU are white, and where you are white the OTHER is black.  That is actually a more fitting current allegory for what we see happening politically right now than racism, because it reflects the truth:  Political fanatics of different view points HATE each other precisely because their viewpoints are opposite on the same issues—which is an allegorically close match for being of opposite colors on the same side of your body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although &#8220;Let That Be Your Last Battlefield&#8221; was produced in Star Trek&#8217;s downhill season, it was actually written by Gene Coon during the first season.  And how fitting an episode to reflect upon today.  What&#8217;s it about, with the two aliens, last of their kinds, feuding to extinction, each one colored black and white but on opposite sides as the their hatred&#8217;s reason to fight?</p>
<p>Was it racism?  Today I see that episode in a new and more relevant way.  That list of social ills 68 thinks Star Trek ought to address is curiously missing a problem more dangerous than any of those he mentioned: political extremism.</p>
<p>That episode can easily describe political fanatics in our time who see the world in stark black and white terms, and then who hate or WISH they could kill each other because where the other is black YOU are white, and where you are white the OTHER is black.  That is actually a more fitting current allegory for what we see happening politically right now than racism, because it reflects the truth:  Political fanatics of different view points HATE each other precisely because their viewpoints are opposite on the same issues—which is an allegorically close match for being of opposite colors on the same side of your body.</p>
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		<title>By: TomBot3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomBot3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pleasant enough diversion... I too think it would be interesting to see Klingons portrayed a little closer to TOS/TMP hybrids. It might open up some new avenues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pleasant enough diversion&#8230; I too think it would be interesting to see Klingons portrayed a little closer to TOS/TMP hybrids. It might open up some new avenues&#8230;</p>
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